Kansas City Chief Dynasty?
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FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Watkins did little this season outside of Week 1 and the SB.
There may be some value in KC since NE will be the hot value pitch if Brady resigns. I expect Baltimore to slide back some.
There may be some value in KC since NE will be the hot value pitch if Brady resigns. I expect Baltimore to slide back some.
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WildBill
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This is the NFL, outside of the Patriots and their cheating ways, no one consistently follows up a great season. They are going to have to make some other cap cuts to handle that massive contract, but maybe for one more year the window stays open. Also teams will continue to evolve on how to handle the Chiefs. From time to time teams figure out ways to slow them down quite a bit. I think its title contender next year, they drop back to the pack two years from now and then spend plenty of years as a playoff team, but not a favorite, with maybe a Saints style rebirth at some point for the team as they gut every other part of the team but still have the most important piece around through it all.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
KC was a coin flip away from repeating.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
As long as the AFC West Division is weak, they have a great shot of repeating..The AFC East with the Patriots are the blueprint....go 6-0 or 5-1 and get home field throughout the playoffs...
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
A KC/Raven AFC Championship game next year would be nice....
Hard to criticize the efforts of Patrick Mahomes.
Crafty and competitive on the field, humble and honest off the field.
As a gambler, I hold a bias against teams that play on cruise control and then press a button anytime they would like.
The NBA's Golden State Warriors have had that kind of feel during the Steph Curry era.
Crafty and competitive on the field, humble and honest off the field.
As a gambler, I hold a bias against teams that play on cruise control and then press a button anytime they would like.
The NBA's Golden State Warriors have had that kind of feel during the Steph Curry era.
Lamar and Patrick have already reached first-name status early in their NFL careers.
kane
EOG master
I don't know if the Chiefs become a dynasty, I don't think there's any way they come close to what the Patriots have been, but if not for Dee Ford lining up in the neutral zone last year, it's possible they're going for a threepeat. As long as they have Mahomes they'll be a viable SB threat every year
SlipperyPete
EOG Dedicated
You need a great qb to go far year in year out and they will have that for the next 10 years, at least.
Are they gonna make it every year? Probably not, but they will be in the chase.
Brady 9 SB appearances.
Manning 4 plus several more AFC championship games.
Big Ben 3 SB appearances plus a few more AFC Championship games
Are they gonna make it every year? Probably not, but they will be in the chase.
Brady 9 SB appearances.
Manning 4 plus several more AFC championship games.
Big Ben 3 SB appearances plus a few more AFC Championship games
Sol Diablo
House of Heat
Dynasty? Like the earl 90's Cowboys or the recent Patriots run? No. I don't believe they will be that.
Be a contender every season as long as Mahomes is in KC and healthy? Yes. I think #15 is the type of talent that will always have his team in the mix regardless of the team around him. It won't always be enough to make a Super Bowl every other season like New England has done the past 18 years. But he will make KC relevant contenders for the next decade.
Be a contender every season as long as Mahomes is in KC and healthy? Yes. I think #15 is the type of talent that will always have his team in the mix regardless of the team around him. It won't always be enough to make a Super Bowl every other season like New England has done the past 18 years. But he will make KC relevant contenders for the next decade.
They won 12 games three times, 11 games twice and 10 games once in the last 7 years. Keep Hill, Kelce and other members of the track team and they'll stay dangerous.
kane
EOG master
They've had some good teams over the years, but they never got to the SB because the QB position held them back, that's no longer the case, and as long as Mahomes stays healthy, the Chiefs will be SB contenders every year. They don't reach, much less win the SB with Alex Smith, as has been proven
KC scored 24 or more points in 18 games. They only game below 24 points was against Indy. KC scored 13 points and Hill was out.
Mahomes put them over the hump. Mahomes will struggle if receivers don't get separation because he isn't that accurate. Throwing in tight windows isn't his thing. He's tough, can make some big runs, but needs receivers to get separation.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
No chance. Mahomes won't take the drastic Brady Hometown discounts. He might take some token discounts, but he'll never be below the top 10 QB salary, like Brady has consistently been. He doesn't have a Billionaire wife. They don't have a Belichick in command who will coldly cut players and won't overpay players. They'll be good, and in the Hunt(pun intended) as long as Mahomes is around and healthy, but we've seen the last of any dynasties as we know them in the NFL as long as there a hard cap.
I agree, he's not taking that discount. He may do it 10 years or so down the line, if he doesn't get another ring.
46.78% of the time, KC scores 34 or more points when Hill starts. 32 games.
0% of the time KC scores more than 34 points when Hill doesn't start. 5 games.
0% of the time KC scores more than 34 points when Hill doesn't start. 5 games.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
0% of the time KC scores more than 26 Points without Mahomes starting. 2 Games.
Moore scored 24 and 26 against good defenses in GB and Minn. They averaged giving up 20.7 points and 19.4 points.
KC played Det, Indy and Oak, bad defense when Hill was out. KC scored 13 points vs. Indy.
KC played Det, Indy and Oak, bad defense when Hill was out. KC scored 13 points vs. Indy.
Moore's QB rating was 107.1 vs. GB and 103.9 vs. Minny.
Alex Smith had the highest rating in the league at 104.7 in 2017
Alex Smith had the highest rating in the league at 104.7 in 2017
kane
EOG master
If Moore was the QB against the Texans, he doesn't lead them back from down 24
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
He is indeed. He's been badly embarrassed across the street. Now he's trying it here, and undoubtedly will be met with the same result, by the sharp folks here like you.
Stop
If Hill and Kelce are OUT the whole year, KC has zero chance to win the SB.
Hill turns Ward around on a double moves and camps under a pop up by Mahomes.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
And 2 starting OL were out, Mahomes rolled his ankle that game also. That was the best game Indy played all year, then injuries got them. It was the only game I believe where Mahomes was held under 20.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
They will call that everytime because the DB had his back to the ball and had no idea where it was.
Hill and Kelce played 4 years together. Both made the Pro Bowl all 4 years but Hill was ST in 2016.
2016: 12-4
2017: 10-6 Alex Smith 1st in the league in Rating and 1st in Y/C.
2018: 12-4 Mahomes 2nd in the league in rating.
2019: 12-4 SB. Mahomes season rating 105.3. Moore rating of 107.1 vs. GB and 103.9 vs. Minn
2016: 12-4
2017: 10-6 Alex Smith 1st in the league in Rating and 1st in Y/C.
2018: 12-4 Mahomes 2nd in the league in rating.
2019: 12-4 SB. Mahomes season rating 105.3. Moore rating of 107.1 vs. GB and 103.9 vs. Minn
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
The great Minn defense that Mitch Trubisky beat twice?
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
I love pro gamblers who need a 50 game sample size to justify a 2 cent market move, then justify Matt Moore.
Seriously?
Seriously?
Matt Moore is awful. He started more than 5 games once in his career. He retires, sits out 2018, comes back to KC in 2019 after a Henne injury and plays great in 2 starts.