KOBE'S HELICOPTER

Biff41

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Just a note on the Kobe tragedy, the Sikorsky had a feature when the warning system signaled the clutches are turning faster than the main engine shaft it will temporarily cut off fuel. (Found this on the web) This can be bad at takeoff and landings. Another issue if the plane uses crush washers or nylon bushings if they are not replaced vibration can loosen bolts...ot sure how Sikorsky's are set on this
 

Biff41

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One report is that traffic control told pilot to gain altitude but fog caused confusion and he got to close to mountain
 

Scooper

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It’s amazing (and scary) how antiquated air transportation vehicles are, given that we replaced our cars every couple of years
 

Biff41

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It’s amazing (and scary) how antiquated air transportation vehicles are, given that we replaced our cars every couple of years
The FAA is very slow about legalizing new aircraft designs. You can fly these planes around your farm in Kansas but not in metropolitan areas.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
What is confusing is that we are closer to having self driving cars than self flying machines. It would seem that a helicopter could be equiped with some type of all around sonic system that allows it to fly in foggy conditions.

I am wondering how this flight was allowed given the conditions. This doesnt seem like a situation that they absolutely had to leave since it was a practice to fly in these foggy conditions.

Do helicptors have auto controls?
 

Biff41

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What is confusing is that we are closer to having self driving cars than self flying machines. It would seem that a helicopter could be equiped with some type of all around sonic system that allows it to fly in foggy conditions.

I am wondering how this flight was allowed given the conditions. This doesnt seem like a situation that they absolutely had to leave since it was a practice to fly in these foggy conditions.

Do helicptors have auto controls?
This is an old Chopper-1991. New choppers have Drone technology. Latest report suggest pilot chose to make a difficult manuveur flying low level in fog then trying to do a climb and dive possibly to improve visibility
 

Sportsrmylife

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This is an old Chopper-1991. New choppers have Drone technology. Latest report suggest pilot chose to make a difficult manuveur flying low level in fog then trying to do a climb and dive possibly to improve visibility
omfg this sounds terrible. what an awful move.

to think all these lives were lost to bad technology and a pilot trying to hit a one-outer.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
This is an old Chopper-1991. New choppers have Drone technology. Latest report suggest pilot chose to make a difficult manuveur flying low level in fog then trying to do a climb and dive possibly to improve visibility
what year did they start inputting this drone technology?
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Kobe owned the helicopter, he could have bought whatever he wanted, so who exactly are you trying to blame?

If Kobe was the owner, that's on him.

But a bigger blame has to go to the pilot to say it was okay to fly in those conditions knowing that he didn't have the updated tech to help if got lost in the fog.
 

Biff41

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what year did they start inputting this drone technology?
I am not really on expert on this. Utube and internet videos are showing companies like Google Boeing space x all have technologies for remote or automated controls. Military drones going back to the 1990's have brought alot of this tech. Commercial airlines have had this for more than 10 years....getting more sophisticated with computer tech. The Nazi's and US invented flying bomb technology in WWII.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
If Kobe was the owner, that's on him.

But a bigger blame has to go to the pilot to say it was okay to fly in those conditions knowing that he didn't have the updated tech to help if got lost in the fog.
The pilots dead, yet you still want a lb of flesh.
 

fifty cint

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I remember Dink saying he took a helicopter from N.Y. waterfront to Atlantic City.He was scared shitless and said never again would he step foot in one.I would agree here
 

MrTop

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I remember Dink saying he took a helicopter from N.Y. waterfront to Atlantic City.He was scared shitless and said never again would he step foot in one.I would agree here



agree I was on them often in the military. Very violent machines
 

Biff41

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Small planes have glide ability and some have fusilage parachutes ....now....Copters..... Not so much.
 

ComptrBob

EOG Master
Helicopters vary widely.

Long ago, I took Bell UH-1s (Huey) and Boeing Vertol Chinooks to and from various search and rescue operations in the mountains. Very different rides.

Also I've had several hundred rides on Bell Jet 214s in the Canadian Rockies on heli-skiing trips. Some interesting encounters with turbulence, tight landings on peaks, and pickup zones. The pilots were all very experienced, and wind and visibility were always a concern.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Helicopters vary widely.

Long ago, I took Bell UH-1s (Huey) and Boeing Vertol Chinooks to and from various search and rescue operations in the mountains. Very different rides.

Also I've had several hundred rides on Bell Jet 214s in the Canadian Rockies on heli-skiing trips. Some interesting encounters with turbulence, tight landings on peaks, and pickup zones. The pilots were all very experienced, and wind and visibility were always a concern.

Spent time on many CH 46s and CH 53s during my time in the military....was never comfortable, even in good weather....had several friends lose their lives on these aircrafts...this was back in the 1970s....
 

Biff41

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Heard a report that ground control was trying to remote into the copter's auto pilot to raise altitude. Signal strength was weak because of low altitude in hillsides. Hind sight 20/20 but Pilot might have been able to raise altitude on his own had he been more in sync with traffic control.
 
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