Kudos to Curt Schilling
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railbird
EOG Master
Curt Schilling
@gehrig38
Former players will be the ultimate judge, as it should be. I won’t allow a group of morally bankrupt frauds another year to lie about my life.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
They hate him for being a far-right loon and also stiffing the taxpayers, not his religion.
railbird
EOG Master
the voters are far left dirtbags, he is not a "loon". He was a top 5 pitcher in last 50 yrs
railbird
EOG Master
btw, your in a very very small voting block, non trump voting gop is a very small group of neo con dirtbags that like to do pay for play gloabaly. any non trumper is going to get thumped in 22 gop primary, you will be nothing but a skid mark
railbird
EOG Master
I want to share with everyone the letter I wrote to the folks at the Hall of Fame yesterday. They’ve been otherworldly kind and gracious in every way possible and I’ll be forever grateful to them and for that.
This was written privately and for their eyes only but I have always been fine with anyone knowing how I feel and what I think.
“Hey guys. Couple things. First off I am not sure I can express my level of gratitude and sincere appreciation at the graciousness, kindness and desire on all your parts to help me navigate this process. I can say at this point I am mentally done. I know math and I know trends and I know I will not attain the 75% threshold for induction.
As I’ve stated often over the past years to those I’ve spoken with in my heart I am at peace. Nothing, zero, none of the claims being made by any of the writers hold merit. In my 22 years playing professional baseball in the most culturally diverse locker rooms in sports I’ve never said or acted in any capacity other than being a good teammate.
I’ve certainly been exposed to racism and sexism and homophobia as it’s part of who human beings are. I’ve played with and talked with gay teammates. I’ve played with wife beaters, adulterers, assaulted, drug addicts and alcoholics. I’ve never hit a woman, driven drunk, done drugs, PEDs or otherwise, assaulted anyone or committed any sort of crime.
But I’m now somehow in a conversation with two men who cheated, and instead of being accountable they chose to destroy others lives to protect their lie.
I will always have one thing they will forever chase. A legacy. Whatever mine is as a player it will be the truth, and one I earned for better or worse.
Having said all that the media has created a Curt Schilling that does not and has never existed. It’s one of the things that has allowed me to sleep at night. Not an ounce of that is to absolve myself of sin, Lord knows I’ve committed my share and will do so again. Never malicious, never to willfully or intentionally hurt another person. I was 100% accountable and still am. Even the thought of responding to claims of “nazi” or “racist” or any other term so watered down and rendered meaningless by spineless cowards who have never met me makes me ill. In modern times responding to such drivel somehow validates the claim.
My love of this country has always been worn on my sleeve. My desire to do the right thing and be a good person has driven most of my life choices. I stood at my locker 400+ times after my starts and took every question and answered honestly. Those people who stood there asking the questions KNOW what they are claiming is untrue yet they quote, re-quote and link to one another story after story that began as lies and grew into bigger ones. The game has made it clear it does not want me back and that’s fine, the game owes me exactly nothing. It gave a billion more times than it took and I’ll forever be deeply in debt to it. My desire to work with and teach young men the art of pitching will be tucked away.
But as I watch my wife battle cancer and go through the grueling soul crushing process of chemotherapy and see her hurt every time some idiot writes another hit piece linking to other hit pieces, none rooted in any sort of truth but rather story after story of “what he meant was” and “what he’s saying is” and “that’s a dog whistle for” all the while providing zero actual acts or quotes of the claims being made I can’t help but to go into deep conversation with my father.
“Never live your life trying to impress people you don’t know, or who don’t know you” and what that means in todays world.
Being an aspie has allowed it to flow like water off a ducks back. But to see the hurt I’m causing my wife and to have my children read and hear this stuff and then look at me and try and match a public “image” that in no way aligns with the man their father is , has been something I never considered.
I do not and never will “scoreboard” the cowards but if I’m not mistaken only Jamie Moyer and I “swept” the humanitarian awards players can win. Awards meant to define who the true man is apart from the player. These same writers voted on those awards. Do those awards and 22 years absent of a single validating event to support their claims define me? Or does a “what he meant to say” tweet? Based on the vote and the pike of dung authored by morally decrepit men like Dan Shaughnessy it’s the latter. I cannot and will not say or do anything to possibly soften a weak willed mans opinion of me if it is not something I believe. Just or not. I’ve chosen Arizona as the team I would have represented if I had been inducted and even though I heard someone there is calling for the DBacks front office to “meet” should the induction happen I’ll stand with that decision as I know Mr Kendrick to be an honorable and kind man. Should that change it most certainly would be the Phillies. What Mr Henry and Mr Werner did to my family and I in my final year has been forgiven but will never be forgotten. One thing this text certifies is that I talk way too much but I know I was never a yes/no answer guy. I apologize for the insane length of this but I guess I needed an outlet and I sure as hell don’t want to dump any of this on a woman who just ended her 3rd chemo and provides the reasons I eat sleep and breathe everyday. Why the text? If by some miracle this would happen I have zero interest in taking questions from the very group who lined up to destroy my character with no regard to anyone in my life or being held to account for their lies. I would and will talk with the guys on the MLB network if you want that, but no one else.
I wanted to reiterate this final point. I will not participate in the final year of voting. I am requesting to be removed from the ballot. I’ll defer to the veterans committee and men whose opinions actually matter and who are in a position to actually judge a player. I don’t think I’m a hall of famer as I’ve often stated but if former players think I am then I’ll accept that with honor.
Again, I won’t be able to thank you for your kindness and sincere interest in this process as it pertains to me. I’ll be forever grateful. God Bless you all again and one more time a final thank you for all your efforts to help my family and I.
This was written privately and for their eyes only but I have always been fine with anyone knowing how I feel and what I think.
“Hey guys. Couple things. First off I am not sure I can express my level of gratitude and sincere appreciation at the graciousness, kindness and desire on all your parts to help me navigate this process. I can say at this point I am mentally done. I know math and I know trends and I know I will not attain the 75% threshold for induction.
As I’ve stated often over the past years to those I’ve spoken with in my heart I am at peace. Nothing, zero, none of the claims being made by any of the writers hold merit. In my 22 years playing professional baseball in the most culturally diverse locker rooms in sports I’ve never said or acted in any capacity other than being a good teammate.
I’ve certainly been exposed to racism and sexism and homophobia as it’s part of who human beings are. I’ve played with and talked with gay teammates. I’ve played with wife beaters, adulterers, assaulted, drug addicts and alcoholics. I’ve never hit a woman, driven drunk, done drugs, PEDs or otherwise, assaulted anyone or committed any sort of crime.
But I’m now somehow in a conversation with two men who cheated, and instead of being accountable they chose to destroy others lives to protect their lie.
I will always have one thing they will forever chase. A legacy. Whatever mine is as a player it will be the truth, and one I earned for better or worse.
Having said all that the media has created a Curt Schilling that does not and has never existed. It’s one of the things that has allowed me to sleep at night. Not an ounce of that is to absolve myself of sin, Lord knows I’ve committed my share and will do so again. Never malicious, never to willfully or intentionally hurt another person. I was 100% accountable and still am. Even the thought of responding to claims of “nazi” or “racist” or any other term so watered down and rendered meaningless by spineless cowards who have never met me makes me ill. In modern times responding to such drivel somehow validates the claim.
My love of this country has always been worn on my sleeve. My desire to do the right thing and be a good person has driven most of my life choices. I stood at my locker 400+ times after my starts and took every question and answered honestly. Those people who stood there asking the questions KNOW what they are claiming is untrue yet they quote, re-quote and link to one another story after story that began as lies and grew into bigger ones. The game has made it clear it does not want me back and that’s fine, the game owes me exactly nothing. It gave a billion more times than it took and I’ll forever be deeply in debt to it. My desire to work with and teach young men the art of pitching will be tucked away.
But as I watch my wife battle cancer and go through the grueling soul crushing process of chemotherapy and see her hurt every time some idiot writes another hit piece linking to other hit pieces, none rooted in any sort of truth but rather story after story of “what he meant was” and “what he’s saying is” and “that’s a dog whistle for” all the while providing zero actual acts or quotes of the claims being made I can’t help but to go into deep conversation with my father.
“Never live your life trying to impress people you don’t know, or who don’t know you” and what that means in todays world.
Being an aspie has allowed it to flow like water off a ducks back. But to see the hurt I’m causing my wife and to have my children read and hear this stuff and then look at me and try and match a public “image” that in no way aligns with the man their father is , has been something I never considered.
I do not and never will “scoreboard” the cowards but if I’m not mistaken only Jamie Moyer and I “swept” the humanitarian awards players can win. Awards meant to define who the true man is apart from the player. These same writers voted on those awards. Do those awards and 22 years absent of a single validating event to support their claims define me? Or does a “what he meant to say” tweet? Based on the vote and the pike of dung authored by morally decrepit men like Dan Shaughnessy it’s the latter. I cannot and will not say or do anything to possibly soften a weak willed mans opinion of me if it is not something I believe. Just or not. I’ve chosen Arizona as the team I would have represented if I had been inducted and even though I heard someone there is calling for the DBacks front office to “meet” should the induction happen I’ll stand with that decision as I know Mr Kendrick to be an honorable and kind man. Should that change it most certainly would be the Phillies. What Mr Henry and Mr Werner did to my family and I in my final year has been forgiven but will never be forgotten. One thing this text certifies is that I talk way too much but I know I was never a yes/no answer guy. I apologize for the insane length of this but I guess I needed an outlet and I sure as hell don’t want to dump any of this on a woman who just ended her 3rd chemo and provides the reasons I eat sleep and breathe everyday. Why the text? If by some miracle this would happen I have zero interest in taking questions from the very group who lined up to destroy my character with no regard to anyone in my life or being held to account for their lies. I would and will talk with the guys on the MLB network if you want that, but no one else.
I wanted to reiterate this final point. I will not participate in the final year of voting. I am requesting to be removed from the ballot. I’ll defer to the veterans committee and men whose opinions actually matter and who are in a position to actually judge a player. I don’t think I’m a hall of famer as I’ve often stated but if former players think I am then I’ll accept that with honor.
Again, I won’t be able to thank you for your kindness and sincere interest in this process as it pertains to me. I’ll be forever grateful. God Bless you all again and one more time a final thank you for all your efforts to help my family and I.
railbird
EOG Master
On April 20, 2016, ESPN announced that they had fired Schilling after he shared an "anti-transgender" Facebook post, saying, "ESPN is an inclusive company. Curt Schilling has been advised that his conduct was unacceptable and his employment with ESPN has been terminated."[118] Schilling's social media post came shortly after passage of the North Carolina transgender restroom law.[119] In September 2017, Schilling accused ESPN of a double standard when reporter Jemele Hill was not fired or suspended following a controversial social media post about Donald Trump. In an on-air phone interview with CNN, Schilling defended Hill's right to speak her mind, then stated, "I wasn't fired for speaking my mind; I was fired for being a conservative."[120]
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
He can be a top 5 pitcher and a top 5 loon. He should have made it.
Guess what? I’m not voting for trash like trump next election either. I’ll vote lib.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Keep the writers but include the team announcers.
Bigrunner
EOG Master
King Snowflake!.
"I heard Bill Barr will produce the goods to keep Trump in power. Newsmax and Fox News said so. Go get em Bill Barr".
- Dumb Dude
mrbowling300
EOG Dedicated
I thought I once read that schilling pissed away $50,000,000 on a bad business venture and now he is practically broke.
Bigrunner
EOG Master
True. He blamed the Libs. One of the King Snowflakes. He was also gonna run for Congress. Never happened. He blamed the Libs. King Snowflake.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
He has one more year left on the ballot, told the HOF to take it off the ballot. He would rather have the players vote him in and not the BBWAA. Obviously some are holding grudges, and he missed by 16 votes.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Video game design business. Don’t know how broke he is, but he can sign his name all day for $25 each.
boston massacre
EOG Master
Bigrunner
EOG Master
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
I haven’t seen a player cry about not making the HOF since Ron Santo.
raycabino
Long Live Wilson!
FWIW he seems like a no brainer Hall of Fame inductee. He must very disliked in many circles.
Bigrunner
EOG Master
Character still matters in this vote, and Schilling did himself few favors over the years, beginning with his testimony at the congressional hearing on MLB steroid use. After publicly saying that the use of PEDs was widespread in baseball, Schilling told Congress, “The issue was grossly overstated by people, including myself.” Perhaps he had a change of heart when the bright lights went on him, or perhaps his angry critique of Jose Canseco at the hearing dominated his attention span.
Whatever cat got his tongue that day in D.C., Schilling was back to singing about a steroid conspiracy perpetrated on clean players like himself soon enough. “There isn’t a team in the last 20 years that has won clean,” he told a Philadelphia radio show in 2011, adding, “I played during the steroids and HGH era and I never did either.”
Curt sounds like a Snowflake. Always complaining about something! Now he's blaming his political views as the reason why he hasn't made the HOF. Anyone that uses ketchup as a prop to pull off the victim card doesn't deserve the HOF.
Whatever cat got his tongue that day in D.C., Schilling was back to singing about a steroid conspiracy perpetrated on clean players like himself soon enough. “There isn’t a team in the last 20 years that has won clean,” he told a Philadelphia radio show in 2011, adding, “I played during the steroids and HGH era and I never did either.”
Curt sounds like a Snowflake. Always complaining about something! Now he's blaming his political views as the reason why he hasn't made the HOF. Anyone that uses ketchup as a prop to pull off the victim card doesn't deserve the HOF.
Jb777
EOG Dedicated
TonyMar
EOG Dedicated
Either you just made the dumbest post in the history of this forum, or you have a mental disability.
In the case of the latter,...I hope that is the case for you.
mr merlin
EOG Master
So you think the system is just fine huh?
Or are you a sportswriter?
Drnkyourmlkshk
EOG Dedicated
Not much of a story.
Cliffs
Xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic, buyer of nazi memorabilia, misogynistic who competes with Aubrey Huff daily on social media to shock the left and play hero to his echo chamber.
Lost 50M on a video game company and stiffed everyone on the way out.
I think that's it. Cries about the left cancelling him and holding him back from furthering him from something or another.
Desperate to remain relevant seems to me tbh.
Republican, Democrat bla bla bla. Let Bonds in already before anyone else is my opinion but again who really cares?
railbird
EOG Master
2nd Round of the 1986 MLB January Draft-Regular Phase | Baseball-Reference.com (baseball-reference.com)
my highschool teammate Sam august 40th Schilling 39th, JC teammate Steve Scarsone 34th of jan 86 draft.
my highschool teammate Sam august 40th Schilling 39th, JC teammate Steve Scarsone 34th of jan 86 draft.
railbird
EOG Master
he was good, never got past a ball tho, not sure why, had to be inj. because he was ready, high 90 and tight slider was a usc bounce back. we played usc in fall ball game and he mowed them down, we routed them.
railbird
EOG Master
Curt Schilling on Twitter: "#LIVE: Wednesday GLOBAL Bible Study!. 
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just saw this, so cool, 23 min mark hits home for me
Subscribe at Happs: https://t.co/baeP04Zf9d https://t.co/OKd7shRG5m" / Twitter just saw this, so cool, 23 min mark hits home for me