Lakers trade Anthony Davis for Luka Doncic

[kane]

If I was commissioner, I would void and open the bidding to the entire association.

The details are fuzzy and I'm not in the mood to look it up, but I recall many years ago when CP was in his prime there was a deal in place sending him to the Lakers, the Commissioner voided thew trade, can't recall any details, just going from what I recall, so there is a precedent

 

[Dell Dude]

The deal entirely rests on the Brow giving them the trophy. Good lick with that.

 

[Dell Dude]

Meanwhile. Under 48 hours to move Jimmy.

 

[kane]

The deal entirely rests on the Brow giving them the trophy. Good lick with that.

I know I'm in the minority, but I really think they have a better chance to cut down the nets with AD, he's one of the best two way players in the league and he's been healthy so far this year, he was forced to play the five in LA which he said publicly he didn't like, now in Dallas he'll play the four, a position he's much more comfortable with, he also has a good relationship with Jason Kidd, once he gets over the shock of the trade, I think AD will be huge for them. The Kyrie/AD combo is one of the best in the league, the difference between the defense of last year's Celtics and Mavs was glaring, it's hard to cut down the nets when for the most part you're forced to play 4 against 5 on the defensive end, the Mavs just improved their defense bigly, when I feel the timing is right I'll be playing a future on them. Most NBA fans just see what players do on offense, they're enamored with a guy scoring 30 a night, but ignore how many that player gives up on the other end, I value defense more than the average fan, AD is one of the best defenders in the league and at 31 years old still has several good years ahead of him

 

[kane]

Dell, in case you missed it, I'm re-posting this

Why did the Mavericks move on from Doncic?: While Doncic is an elite offensive talent, his conditioning issues and defensive struggles were glaring in last year's NBA Finals against the Boston Celtics. Over the last two seasons, Doncic has allowed a 44.7% blow-by rate as the primary defender on drives, the highest in the league during that span, per Second Spectrum. Also, he has spent just 2.8% of his on-court minutes moving at high speed, tied for the second-lowest rate in the league. He has also never played more than 72 games in a season and is currently sidelined with a calf injury. These factors likely played a role in Mavericks GM Nico Harrison's decision to move on, especially with Dallas sitting at 26-23.

 

[kane]

Almost half the time, the player Luka's guarding blows by him, the worst rate in the league, not just bad, the worst in the league, he's not athletic enough to stay in front of his man, and not in good enough shape to defend like he needs to. I'm not saying he needs to be on the all NBA defense team, he just needs to be an average defender, but he's way below average. He needs to clean up his diet and lose some weight, get in NBA shape

 

[kane]

The 6-foot-6 Doncic is listed at 230 pounds, but ESPN reports that "his weight ballooned to the high 260s early this season."

 

[kane]

Luka Doncic timeline of conditioning trouble​

Doncic admits 'I'm not in my best shape' in 2020​

With the COVID-19 pandemic forcing the 2020-21 NBA season to start in late December, players' offseason routines were notably impacted.

As the Mavericks convened for training camp, Doncic was noticeably heavier than he was during the 2020 NBA Playoffs in the Orlando bubble. With Doncic's weight as a trending topic of discussion, he addressed criticisms while taking some accountability.

"I mean, people on Twitter say every stuff," Doncic said. "But, it's true I'm not in my best shape. I will get there for sure. But, you know, I've never been a muscular guy, so what can I say?"

Doncic says 'I've got to do better' about being in shape in 2021​

One year later, Doncic's weight was again the topic of discussion as the Mavericks played on TNT.

TNT analyst Reggie Miller said, "This is the heaviest I’ve probably ever seen Luka look, right now," during the broadcast. Play-by-play announcer Kevin Harlan said "We’ve done a couple of these Mavs games, and when you’re around the team what you hear is he’s worn out; he’s exhausted... My eyes tell me he’s a little heavier.”

In response, Doncic said "I think that’s my thing. People are going to talk about it, yes or no. But I know I’ve got to do better. I had a long summer, and then I relax a little bit."

Doncic led Slovenia to the Tokyo Olympics in 2021 and, after the tournament finished, claimed to have taken three weeks off from basketball. It was during that time that Doncic admits he may have relaxed too much, resulting in a slow ramp-up process during the 2021-22 season.

Mavericks ask Doncic to lower playing weight before 2023-24 season​

While answering questions from a Mavericks mailbag during the 2023 offseason, The Athletic's Tim Cato wrote that "Mavericks’ key figures have talked to Dončić about decreasing his preferred playing weight this summer."

Within the story, Cato explained that Doncic, who was 24 at the time, was entering a stage of his career (and life) that required more discipline to stay in shape. He also added that the concerns were mental as much as they were physical, also noting that Doncic seemingly gets out of shape quickly.


ESPN's Tim MacMahon, who first reported about the conditioning issues, says that Dallas was "extremely frustrated" with Doncic's conditioning, adding that Doncic's "weight ballooned into the high 260s this season."

For perspective on his weight, Doncic was listed at 218 pounds when he entered the NBA and is currently listed at 230 pounds on the Lakers roster. That Doncic's weight is reportedly 30-plus pounds above his listed weight leads many to believe Dallas' concerns were too much to ignore anymore, ultimately leading to the deal.

 

[kane]

Back in 2020 he admitted he wasn't in his best shape
In 2021 he said he had to do better about being in shape
last year the front office told him to lose weight
Here we are in 2025 and his conditioning has gotten worse, so much so that it led to his being traded, five years of the same problem, at some point he really needs to take more care of his body, or his career will be cut short, maybe LeBron will be a good influence on him

 

[Dell Dude]

Signed Robbie Avila.

 

[Dell Dude]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875507148937163158

 

[Dell Dude]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1880737816663224469

 

[Dell Dude]

I am going to bet them F4 just because it would be fucking Hillaryous and awesome. College baskets and sports needs it to happen. Only path is conference tournament trophy.

 

[2W2P2S]

The details are fuzzy and I'm not in the mood to look it up, but I recall many years ago when CP was in his prime there was a deal in place sending him to the Lakers, the Commissioner voided thew trade, can't recall any details, just going from what I recall, so there is a precedent

New Orleans was owned by the league then, and the owners weren't going to approve the trade. NO's GM extremely pissed and with good reason, the original trade of Paul to the Lakers was a much better deal for NO than what they ended up with trading him to the Clippers.

 

[MrTop]

Had he stayed in Dallas, Doncic would have been eligible to sign a “Designated Veteran Player Extension,” after next season. That would have paid him 35% of the salary cap, or $345 million over five years.

 

[pro analyser]

 

[Dell Dude]

I think you can win with an overweight, defensive liability Luka. It takes a sharp GM and coach but worth the effort. Jokic is not exactly Adonis and it seems to be working for the Nuggets. Mavs nearly won the whole thing last year.

 

[Dell Dude]

You can't have 2 defensive liabilities. Every other player needs to be a stud on defense including the bench.

 

[Heim]

The timing for the Lakers is interesting. They were playing well and Christie in the lineup was a shot in the arm.

Social media is treating AD like chop liver. Guy is the best defensive big man in the game. And can score from
any distance.

Lakers threw this year away for who knows what awaits in the future.

They'd be nuts not to get anything for LeBron right now especially from a thirsty GSW.

 

[mr merlin]

alcindor 4th best laker center behind chamberlin,Shaq and Doncic

I respect Rail for calling him Alcindor. only us old guys even know about his real name.

 

[kane]

The timing for the Lakers is interesting. They were playing well and Christie in the lineup was a shot in the arm.

Social media is treating AD like chop liver. Guy is the best defensive big man in the game. And can score from
any distance.

Lakers threw this year away for who knows what awaits in the future.

They'd be nuts not to get anything for LeBron right now especially from a thirsty GSW.

I agree with your post. Just so you know, LeBron has a no trade clause, and so far he hasn't given any indication he would be willing to waive it. If I were him I would have my agent give the Cavs a call, he could put them over the top ahead of Boston in the East

 

[kane]

LOL at these fucking idiots putting together an all time Laker team and not one mention of Jerry West, bunch of real NBA sharps we got here

 

[kane]

Another thing about the trade, the Mavs could have gotten more, they could have asked the Lakers for Austin Reeves or another first round pick. There's no way in the world Pelinka is turning down a trade for Luka because he didn't want to include Reeves or throw in an additional pick

 

[kane]

LeBron has always said MSG is his favorite arena to play in, put him on the Knicks and they're right there with Boston

 

[Dell Dude]

Brace until deadline.

 

[kane]

The days leading up to the trade deadline are crazy, but supposedly there are rumors the Mavs are looking to add KD, I was planning on taking them to cut down the nets at some point anyway, but I figured now is as good a time as any, I got them +2800, however unlikely, if they somehow pull this off, that price will be cut in half

 

[Wade]

top 3 lakers of all time.

1. Karl Malone
2. Luka Doncic
3. Shaq oneil

i'm glad the rapist isn't on the list

 

[raiders72001]

Luka smear campaign taking off.

 

[mr merlin]

Luka smear campaign taking off.

I dont follow basketball, I heard he's fat and looks like chris christy, is that accurate.

 

[raiders72001]

This whole thing smells rotten. Luka trade turns the fan base and now Dallas moves to Vegas.

 

[Heim]

Don't sleep on this kid...he showed potential in LA. First game in DAL:

 

[choslamshe]

i'm glad the rapist isn't on the list

Actually, he has him at #1

 

[Patrick McIrish]

I saw Anthony Davis has a new show, Foul Ball or something like that, forgot the name.

Hope he went hat in hand to the Emperor before he made that deal, if not Brick probably stomped his feet and demanded AD be gone.

Brick is in LA for this very reason - to figure out how to keep he and that balding head still on the boob tube.

Not many at the AD level, Dallas didn't want to give Luca $70 million a year and they came to a quick and sloppy agreement.

I like Luca, Brick not so much, both both cry to to the refs at historic levels.......

Maybe a few free cheese nights at the Forum to go with all that whine that is coming.

 

[Patrick McIrish]

Luka Doncic timeline of conditioning trouble​

Doncic admits 'I'm not in my best shape' in 2020​

With the COVID-19 pandemic forcing the 2020-21 NBA season to start in late December, players' offseason routines were notably impacted.

As the Mavericks convened for training camp, Doncic was noticeably heavier than he was during the 2020 NBA Playoffs in the Orlando bubble. With Doncic's weight as a trending topic of discussion, he addressed criticisms while taking some accountability.

"I mean, people on Twitter say every stuff," Doncic said. "But, it's true I'm not in my best shape. I will get there for sure. But, you know, I've never been a muscular guy, so what can I say?"

Doncic says 'I've got to do better' about being in shape in 2021​

One year later, Doncic's weight was again the topic of discussion as the Mavericks played on TNT.

TNT analyst Reggie Miller said, "This is the heaviest I’ve probably ever seen Luka look, right now," during the broadcast. Play-by-play announcer Kevin Harlan said "We’ve done a couple of these Mavs games, and when you’re around the team what you hear is he’s worn out; he’s exhausted... My eyes tell me he’s a little heavier.”

In response, Doncic said "I think that’s my thing. People are going to talk about it, yes or no. But I know I’ve got to do better. I had a long summer, and then I relax a little bit."

Doncic led Slovenia to the Tokyo Olympics in 2021 and, after the tournament finished, claimed to have taken three weeks off from basketball. It was during that time that Doncic admits he may have relaxed too much, resulting in a slow ramp-up process during the 2021-22 season.

Mavericks ask Doncic to lower playing weight before 2023-24 season​

While answering questions from a Mavericks mailbag during the 2023 offseason, The Athletic's Tim Cato wrote that "Mavericks’ key figures have talked to Dončić about decreasing his preferred playing weight this summer."

Within the story, Cato explained that Doncic, who was 24 at the time, was entering a stage of his career (and life) that required more discipline to stay in shape. He also added that the concerns were mental as much as they were physical, also noting that Doncic seemingly gets out of shape quickly.


ESPN's Tim MacMahon, who first reported about the conditioning issues, says that Dallas was "extremely frustrated" with Doncic's conditioning, adding that Doncic's "weight ballooned into the high 260s this season."

For perspective on his weight, Doncic was listed at 218 pounds when he entered the NBA and is currently listed at 230 pounds on the Lakers roster. That Doncic's weight is reportedly 30-plus pounds above his listed weight leads many to believe Dallas' concerns were too much to ignore anymore, ultimately leading to the deal.

How can you play 82 games, not to mention camp, all the practices and so on yet not be in top shape?

They also have some of the best trainers on the planet, during the season and the off-season.

How many calories is he ingesting on a daily basis?

Luca 2 years after retirement:

U360lbs +100
O360lbs -120

Give me OVER for the limit.

 

[mr merlin]

How can you play 82 games, not to mention camp, all the practices and so on yet not be in top shape?

They also have some of the best trainers on the planet, during the season and the off-season.

How many calories is he ingesting on a daily basis?

Luca 2 years after retirement:

U360lbs +100
O360lbs -120

Give me OVER for the limit.

I assume he likes to eat more than he likes to work out.

 

[kane]

How can you play 82 games, not to mention camp, all the practices and so on yet not be in top shape?

Conditioning isn't necessarily correlated with the amount of games played, lack of conditioning is something that shows up in game, how often does he not hustle during the game because he's winded, how often does he tire in the fourth quarter due to not being in peak physical shape. There's no question he's not in the best shape he can be, it's well documented, and if you scroll up and read post 88, you'll see even Luka himself has admitted he needs to be better conditioned, and it's not like a one or two year issue, this goes back to 2020. Not only is he a bad defender, he's one of the worst in the league as illustrated in post 85, if he were in better shape he would be better defensively, he would be able to move his feet quicker, be a little more agile and athletic. Given how talented he is on offense he doesn't need to be a great defender, but he could improve greatly in that area if he just took his conditioning more seriously.

 

[kane]

Don't sleep on this kid...he showed potential in LA. First game in DAL:

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Christie not a difference maker but a nice role player, good glue guy, underrated pickup for them, they also just acquired Caleb Martin from the Sixers, another good role player and solid addition, I really like the makeup of this team

 

[choslamshe]

Only problem with the Mavs is that in today's NBA, two 'stars' isn't enough. Kyrie's been a good version of himself in Dallas, but who knows how long that lasts. If either Kyrie or AD is limited offensively (i.e., in a 7 game playoff series), relying on any of their supporting cast (Klay, PJ, Christie, Dinwiddie, etc.) I think just won't be enough. If both AD and Kyrie can elevate to past/next levels, maybe....

 

[boston massacre]

This whole thing smells rotten. Luka trade turns the fan base and now Dallas moves to Vegas.

How Come Texas is Dragging Ass on Sports and Casino Gambling ?

Adelsons Want To Build a New Style Venitian in Dallas With a New Hoop Arena.

Warn Texas.

Pass It , or We're Out of Here , and Onto Vegas .

 

[kane]

Actually, he has him at #1

Karl Malone Dodges Question About Impregnating Minor When He Was 20 Years Old​

News of Karl Malone’s impregnation of a 13-year-old girl when he was 20 has been making the rounds on social media, with the former NBA player recently being asked about his unsavory past.

The Salt Lake City Tribune reports that the Utah Jazz legend appeared at the 2023 NBA All-Star Game, offering no insight into his controversial past. “I’m not discussing any of that. I don’t care,” Malone, 59, said. “That’s my life, it’s my personal life, and I’ll deal with that like I’ve had to deal with everything. So, whatever. Whatever, I’m human.”