Matt Patricia Fired

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
The Lions waited two days after Thanksgiving to fire the turkey.

Patricia was 13-29-1 in his 43 games as Detroit's head coach.

General manager Bob Quinn also got the heave-ho.
 

mrbowling300

EOG Dedicated
Patricia was a joke, he will never be a head coach in this league again. Quinn may never be a GM in this league again either. Lions should have known what was to come with Patricia when his previous game when the Pats gave up 41 to the Eagles in the Super Bowl. I hope the Lions don't screw up the next GM hire, etc.
 

railbird

EOG Master
wayne fontes o line coach, geroge seifert secondary coach, norv turner wr coach, joe gibbs qb coach, dave wannestandt dline coach, john robisnon def coordianter, john mckay head coach
 

Erie Pigskins

EOG Enthusiast
Patricia was a joke, he will never be a head coach in this league again. Quinn may never be a GM in this league again either. Lions should have known what was to come with Patricia when his previous game when the Pats gave up 41 to the Eagles in the Super Bowl. I hope the Lions don't screw up the next GM hire, etc.

You never know, pat shurmer got a second chance so anything is possible.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Don't know how much of it is recruiting and how much is coaching them up.


College football recruiting is a zero-sum game.

If Ohio State and Notre Dame are national contenders, Michigan and Michigan State are going to suffer.

Only so many elite players to go around.

When USC was going great guns in the early 2000's under Pete Carroll, UCLA was a non-factor under guys like Bob Toledo and Karl Dorrell.
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
College football recruiting is a zero-sum game.

If Ohio State and Notre Dame are national contenders, Michigan and Michigan State are going to suffer.

Only so many elite players to go around.

When USC was going great guns in the early 2000's under Pete Carroll, UCLA was a non-factor under guys like Bob Toledo and Karl Dorrell.


Not So.

Look at The S.E.C. Region.

4 of Their Teams, Whomever They May Be, are Ranked in The Top 10 Every Year.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Though when Alabama has ruled the scene in the Saban era, Auburn has mostly struggled, save for the Cam Newton years.
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
It's hard for Miami, Florida and Florida State to all be national contenders at the same time.



If You Compress it into 1 State, Correct, More Suffering.

But in Your 1st Post, You mentioned 3 States.


If Ohio State and Notre Dame are national contenders, Michigan and Michigan State are going to suffer.
 

TheGuesser

EOG Dedicated
I have not seen one Ex Lion Player give support to Patricia on twitter. Everyone from Slay to Orlovsky killing him. That's pretty rare. Lions will be one of the least desirable jobs this coming cycle. 3 years ago, they were one of the most desired places, as Caldwell left a decent situation. Houston clearly #1 with a young, stud Franchise QB already in place. Jets will get Trevor. Jax will get Fields. Lions have a recently fragile Stafford on the decline making big $$$$, and won't even earn a top 5 draft pick for their sucking.
 

Dell Dude

EOG Master
I have not seen one Ex Lion Player give support to Patricia on twitter. Everyone from Slay to Orlovsky killing him. That's pretty rare. Lions will be one of the least desirable jobs this coming cycle. 3 years ago, they were one of the most desired places, as Caldwell left a decent situation. Houston clearly #1 with a young, stud Franchise QB already in place. Jets will get Trevor. Jax will get Fields. Lions have a recently fragile Stafford on the decline making big $$$$, and won't even earn a top 5 draft pick for their sucking.
Lions a good spot for somebody that doesn't want high expectations and a weak, docile ownership. Where is Billy Ford Junior? Will be able to follow your own plan and have a lot of time. Taxans, better foundation but more pressure to produce. Any coach that wins a playoff game for the Lions will have their ass crowned like the Big Buck! He is the only one to do it since 1957.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Lions a good spot for somebody that doesn't want high expectations and a weak, docile ownership. Where is Billy Ford Junior? Will be able to follow your own plan and have a lot of time. Taxans, better foundation but more pressure to produce. Any coach that wins a playoff game for the Lions will have their ass crowned like the Big Buck! He is the only one to do it since 1957.
They will give the courtesy interview to Eric Bienemy.
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
Wayne Fontes remains the most successful Lions coach in the Super Show era.



That's Not Saying Much When You are Talking about The Detroit Lions.

They Have Won Exactly 1 Playoff Game in The Last 62 Years.

A Complete Atrocious Existence The Last 62 Years.

A Long State of Depression For Any Follower.

I Can't Imagine Any Fan, if They Have Any, Even Discussing Them.

Wayne Fontes H.C. Record With The Lions is Under 500.

His H.C. Playoff Record With The Lions is 0-4.

But if You're The Lions, it Sounds Like Wayne Fontes Has Been The Highlight of The Team, over The Last 62 Years.

1 Playoff Win in The Last 62 Years. Unbelievable !
 
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Valuist

EOG Master
They will give the courtesy interview to Eric Bienemy.

I think he gets a head coaching job at some point. Plenty of experience as a successful OC and RB coach, but as a player he spent a lot of time on special teams, returning punts and kicks. Special teams often are overlooked. For the same reason I think Jim Leonhard at Wisconsin will become a successful head coach and I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves up the ladder to the NFL eventually.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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John Harbaugh made his name as a special teams coach.

In 1976, Bill Belichick started his coaching career as assistant special teams coach of the Detroit Lions.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
John Harbaugh made his name as a special teams coach.

In 1976, Bill Belichick started his coaching career as assistant special teams coach of the Detroit Lions.

How about Mike Ditka? He wasn’t a coordinator. He coached special teams for a number of years for the Cowboys. Among recent hires, Joe Judge also fits.

For MLB? Catchers make the best managers as they are everyday players/hitters who have a much better understanding of pitching staffs than do other position players.
 

Dell Dude

EOG Master
John Harbaugh made his name as a special teams coach.

In 1976, Bill Belichick started his coaching career as assistant special teams coach of the Detroit Lions.
Had Belicheat become head ball coach of the Lions in 1978 instead of Monte Clark and remained head ball coach today. I don't think anything changes. He would be the laughingstock of the world for being a loser 43 years. That's howid hopelessly pathetic tge Lions are.
 

Dell Dude

EOG Master
It was true before. I wonder if still? No ex Lions coach has ever become head ball coach of another NFL team.
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
They Talked About The Long Wait For The Chicago Cubs To Win a World Series.

But They Won 17 N.L. Pennants Prior To Finally Breaking Through.

The Detroit Lions are 62 Year Old Virgins.

1 Playoff Win in 62 Years !

How Much Longer can They Stay in Heat ?

Wonder if They Have any of Those 62 Year Season Ticket Holders.
 

mrbowling300

EOG Dedicated
It was true before. I wonder if still? No ex Lions coach has ever become head ball coach of another NFL team.

To this day, no lions EX head coach has become another HC anywhere else. Jim Schwartz, Morninweg, and Marinelli have all become coordinators elsewhere.
 

mrbowling300

EOG Dedicated
They Talked About The Long Wait For The Chicago Cubs To Win a World Series.

But They Won 17 N.L. Pennants Prior To Finally Breaking Through.

The Detroit Lions are 62 Year Old Virgins.

1 Playoff Win in 62 Years !

How Much Longer can They Stay in Heat ?

Wonder if They Have any of Those 62 Year Season Ticket Holders.

There are plenty of season ticket holders who have seniority going back that far in Detroit.

This was interesting: From Vsin this morning: http://eog.mrbowling300.com/patricia.mp3
 

mrbowling300

EOG Dedicated
I wish I could find the clip on youtube, on the Thanksgiving game, they showed a clip of how Matt Patricia has aged during his time between New England, when he started with Detroit and when he was done w/ Detroit. It was hilarious and sad at the same time.
 
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