McKenzie

Valuist

EOG Master
The pitcher, not the horse.

Very impressive in his debut for the Indians on Saturday. He's built like Chris Sale (6'5" 165) so the "all arms and legs" can create some deception. I like pitchers who have some degree of deception, as they tend to be discounted by the analytics community, who focus mostly on velocity. But McKenzie isn't lacking in velo either, getting up to about 97 several times. Just looked very effortless, so despite his slight frame, the velocity comes naturally. Final numbers of 6 IP 2 hits, 1 run allowed 10 K's 1 walk. Granted, it came against a weak Tiger offense, but dominating, nonetheless.

We hear about the Dodgers and their development of pitchers, but the Indians have been on a pretty good run over the past 10 years.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Pitchers and thoroughbred horses are a lot alike.

I believe in form cycles.

I'd love to see someone create a Ragozin Sheets-like layout for starting pitchers.

The bounce theory in horse racing can apply to starting pitchers.

When a below-average pitcher delivers an "out-of-body" performance, I usually look to bet against him in his very next start.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Ten K's over six innings and struck out Miggy Cabrera twice.

As Valuist wrote, it's the Tigers but McKenzie was fantastic.

Glad to see the Indians scored four in the bottom of the sixth inning to give the kid the win.

One to watch.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
For the record, and I'm sure VALUIST is aware, the horse named McKinzie is named after Bob Baffert's late friend, Brad McKinzie.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Narrow shoulders.

I stopped downgrading athletes with narrow shoulders after Kevin Durant blossomed in the NBA.

Now I only downgrade EOG contributors with narrow shoulders.

:p
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Mize was a little disappointing tonight. At least in the results. He does have a good array of pitches and a lot of movement.....maybe too much movement. The Cubs were patient and Mize had some issues with control. I wouldn't write him off but a bit of a learning experience for him tonight.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
His command wasn't as sharp on his fastball tonight. Everything was up. He's going to give up a decent amount of flyballs.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Reggie Mckenzie was the Buffalo Bills’ first round selection in the 1972 NFL Draft out of the University of Michigan. He became an immediate starter at left guard and never missed a starting assignment over the next eight seasons, setting the Bills’ record for consecutive starts at 134. In 1973 McKenzie and his offensive line mates were dubbed “The Electric Company” that helped turn on ”the Juice” as running back O.J. Simpson set the NFL rushing record with 2003 yards in 14 games. McKenzie was named first team All-NFL in both 1973 and 1974 and was named the top NFL blocking lineman by the Pro Football Writers Association in 1973.
 

lastyle7

EOG Veteran
Indians 2016 draft features Bieber, Civale and Plesac... I believe Mike Clevinger will be traded in the off season (because of salary) and Mckenzie will be their 4th or 5th starter.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Indians 2016 draft features Bieber, Civale and Plesac... I believe Mike Clevinger will be traded in the off season (because of salary) and Mckenzie will be their 4th or 5th starter.

Plesac has to get back on the team. McKenzie their number 3 right now.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Another big start for McKenzie. 6 scoreless innings, 3 hits allowed 6 K/0 walks and 54 of 81 pitches for strikes. Granted, the Royals aren't the 27 Yankees but hard to have done much better.

When the Indians jettisoned Bauer a year ago (for 2 months of Puig) and Kluber for little, I couldn't understand why. Then Kluber gets injured after pitching 1 inning this year and McKenzie steps right in. It makes a bit more sense now. And then of course, last week, they trade Clevinger to SD, although they appeared to get a decent haul of prospects.

McKinzie the horse? He'll be running on the KY Oaks undercard on Friday.
 

Heim

EOG Master
After seeing him more, his windup and disposition really reminds me of a young
Ervin Santana with the Halos. He had great stuff early, never got run support.

I can't believe he's still in the league.
 
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