NFL Champ versus College All-Stars

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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#5
They used to play the following August. Jets darn near lost.

A crowd of 74,000-plus attended the 1969 game at Soldier Field.

The Jets beat the College All-Stars, 26-24.

The outcome may have been different, if not for a late scratch of a key player on the college side.

O.J. Simpson, the slashing running back out of USC, did not play in the game.
 

John Kelly

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#9
Thirteen legitimate draft-eligible players on this championship Alabama team with six of the 13 being first-round candidates.

Those are Todd McShay's evaluations.
 
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Thirteen legitimate draft-eligible players on this championship Alabama team with six of the 13 being first-round candidates.

Those are Todd McShay's evaluations.
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Guy I was sitting next to in the Flamingo sportsbook tonight seemed very knowledgeable about CFB and is an OSU fan. He said it wasn't really fair, by his reckoning 13-15 of Bama's 22 starters should be starting in the NFL within 4 years. He said if things fall right for the Buckeye's players maybe 5 will have NFL starter jobs. You could see it in their eyes in the 2nd half, how many guys on OSU were just shaking their heads at how fast and talented the Bama players are.

Will say though that I don't see Jones being a solid NFL starter. How many NFL throws did he really make? He just looked around every play and found someone open. Even then his passes weren't that NFL quality, most were not thrown into stride and any time an OSU defender could manage to stay close they seemed to make a play on it. Great numbers for the guy but he's a product of their insane riches of talent.
 
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John Kelly

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#12
Like you, Bill, I don't trust Justin Fields.

OSU has a history of overrated quarterbacks.

Remember Ohio State's quarterback rotation in 2015.

There was Braxton Miller, J.T. Barrett and Cardale Jones taking turns as the top man.

Little did we know, there was a freshman redshirt on campus named Joe Burrow who turned out better than all three.

The latest OSU product to flop in the NFL was Dwayne Haskins, who was released by the Redskins after an unproductive two seasons in D.C.
 
#13
Like you, Bill, I don't trust Justin Fields.

OSU has a history of overrated quarterbacks.

Remember Ohio State's quarterback rotation in 2015.

There was Braxton Miller, J.T. Barrett and Cardale Jones taking turns as the top man.

Little did we know, there was a freshman redshirt on campus named Joe Burrow who turned out better than all three.

The latest OSU product to flop in the NFL was Dwayne Haskins, who was released by the Redskins after an unproductive two seasons in D.C.
Snyder was in love with Haskins...set their franchise back a few years by drafting him....
 

John Kelly

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#14
Whiff on your franchise quarterback and cost your team at least three seasons and maybe more.

The Bears and GM Ryan Pace now look miserable for trading up to select Mitch Trubisky in the 2017 NFL Draft when both Patrick Mahomes (selected 10th) and Deshaun Watson (selected 12th) were available.
 

John Kelly

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#17
I'd love to see something like this again but given how many guys are opting out of bowl games it probably wouldn't happen or wouldn't be the best players.

College football players, as opposed to college basketball players, have a much better chance to be competitive against the pros because of the age factor.

So many college hoopsters are one-and-done players (ages 18 or 19) while college football players (ages 21 or 22) are eligible for the NFL Draft three years removed from their high school graduation.

I assume a college football All-Star team would have a better chance against a Super Bowl winning team as opposed to a Pro Bowl squad.

But maybe not.

It all depends if the pros are taking the game seriously.
 
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If you look at Bama's OL and DL....and they had a AA out Monday on OL, there is no doubt
they can compete against the worse in the NFL. I'm not bringing up the stupid 'Can a
college team beat a pro' delusion. That ain't happening, but compete....Bama could.
 
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The college all-stars became less competitive as time went on. Holdouts were a problem too. I believe this explains OJ's lack of participation.

In those days, the great players were spread out throughout the nation, particularly since southern schools didn't recruit blacks until 1970. Now, a handful of schools get many of them.

Boo hoo Ohio State. Not really fair when the Bucs play Northwestern either.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
#20
The college all-stars became less competitive as time went on. Holdouts were a problem too. I believe this explains OJ's lack of participation.

In those days, the great players were spread out throughout the nation, particularly since southern schools didn't recruit blacks until 1970. Now, a handful of schools get many of them.

Boo hoo Ohio State. Not really fair when the Bucs play Northwestern either.
If you're Trevor Lawrence, his agent, or the Jags - why play in it?
 

John Kelly

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#21
Some of the stale NFL offenses of the past quarter-century have been transformed by a lot of college football concepts where spread offenses from a shotgun formation threaten every level of a defense.

Heck, most NFL teams now have Wildcat packages inspired by the college game.
 
#22
remember 63' college all stars 20-17 win over the packers. vanderkellen had great game. threw lon TD pass. Seems it rained alot. Lombardi wasn't happy.
64 game featured Sayers of Kansas and Ken willard of UNC. Bears won. That brings back some great memories.
 
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I had a neighbor back in the 80s who played for the Rams for one year in the early 60s. He was a good college player, got his degree but didn't think much of going into the NFL. He was just going to pass on the opportunity, reason being his father ran a couple of big car dealerships in LA. He could make more money selling cars or managing sales team than he could in NFL. Said his brother and father talked him into giving it a shot because the AFL had just started and many roster spots were open. He spent the year mostly as a backup on the Rams team and then quit, the allure of car money was too good he said. He told me all about the NFL experience back when guys were so underpaid they got second off-season jobs. They needed training camp to get into shape because they got out of shape during the off-season. There were no minicamps, no one got together to perfect their skills, playbooks were simple, etc. And everyone got good at the college level because they had freshman and JV teams who competed hard against other schools to get coveted varsity team spots, so the senior players were getting a ton of experience against good competition which wasn't that far below the pros. He said no one cared if you shined in practice, you had to do good things on the playing field to get noticed by the higher up teams. He said when he got to the NFL while the guys were better, but they weren't at another level it was more like going from varsity to a super varsity team. So much has changed since then, can't really compare the game today in the college to the pros.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
#26
remember 63' college all stars 20-17 win over the packers. vanderkellen had great game. threw lon TD pass. Seems it rained alot. Lombardi wasn't happy.
64 game featured Sayers of Kansas and Ken willard of UNC. Bears won. That brings back some great memories.
Want to win a bar bet? Ken Willard had more career rushing yards than Sayers. I remember Ken later in his career, hard-nosed fullback.
 
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