NFL Week 16 notes

[Valuist]

Last 7 starting QBs the Cleveland defense has faced: Murray, Dalton, Duck Hodges, Fitzpatrick, Rudolph, Josh Allen and Brandon Allen. And before that was a declining Brady. Should be interesting to see what the likely MVP will do.

Buffalo will be playing in the 5th road game in 7 weeks.

Dallas, Jacksonville and Pittsburgh all will be playing in their 4th road game in 6 weeks.

Baltimore has trailed for a grand total of 6 minutes since the start of November. They have led for a total of 335 minutes in that span.

Chicago defense, so good at forcing turnovers last year, has only turned over one opponent more than once in a game in their last 9 games.

 

[John Kelly]

Thanks for sharing, Valuist.

 

[winkyduck]

The Miami/Cindy game leaves me shaking my head

NO CLUE how Miami is only -1

They are the better team, at home and used to what will be warmer weather than the Bungals are used to playing in. This line makes no sense. I took Miami -1

 

[unluckysob]

I also like Miami. Think R/skins clobber Giants. I remember when Vegas wrote tickets by hand. I still have several Redskin tickets written that way. Obviously not a winner.

 

[kane]

I've got a fairly large card this week, here are my thoughts on some of this week's games. I haven't played them yet, but I'll be on the Buccs, I'll fade the Texans coming off their monster win last week against the Titans, and they have the Titans again next week in a game that could decide who wins the division, Tampa has won 4 straight so they obviously haven't packed it in, and if it weren't for Winston constantly turning it over they would be in the playoff hunt, if he can avoid throwing it to the other team this is a game Tampa can win. I'll also be on Buffalo, I bought a half and took 7, bottom line is this game should be a tight one, both teams have top notch defenses and with a total of 36.5, a TD seems like a lot, the Pats aren't as good as their record, this isn't the same Brady led offense we've seen through the years, I think this game will look a lot like the Bills/Steelers game last week, and a SU Bills win wouldn't surprise me, the one thing that makes me nervous is Buffalo is a trendy dog, I typically like to avoid those, but I like Buffalo enough to not get scared off. I also took 3 with the Titans, huge game for them and I'll fade Brees coming off his record setting performance. I also took the Cardinals +10, Seattle has 11 wins, ten of those wins have come by eight points or less, they've been very fortunate to win a lot of close games and next week they have a monster game against SF

 

[winkyduck]

I've got a fairly large card this week, here are my thoughts on some of this week's games. I haven't played them yet, but I'll be on the Buccs, I'll fade the Texans coming off their monster win last week against the Titans, and they have the Titans again next week in a game that could decide who wins the division, Tampa has won 4 straight so they obviously haven't packed it in, and if it weren't for Winston constantly turning it over they would be in the playoff hunt, if he can avoid throwing it to the other team this is a game Tampa can win. I'll also be on Buffalo, I bought a half and took 7, bottom line is this game should be a tight one, both teams have top notch defenses and with a total of 36.5, a TD seems like a lot, the Pats aren't as good as their record, this isn't the same Brady led offense we've seen through the years, I think this game will look a lot like the Bills/Steelers game last week, and a SU Bills win wouldn't surprise me, the one thing that makes me nervous is Buffalo is a trendy dog, I typically like to avoid those, but I like Buffalo enough to not get scared off. I also took 3 with the Titans, huge game for them and I'll fade Brees coming off his record setting performance. I also took the Cardinals +10, Seattle has 11 wins, ten of those wins have come by eight points or less, they've been very fortunate to win a lot of close games and next week they have a monster game against SF

Right. But if they win this week they win the Division making next week meaningless - as far as who wins the AFCS. Texans can still get the 3-seed but probably not gonna happen. I know Texans can win SU but not ATS, though

 

[SlipperyPete]

If Cook wont play (and I believe he wont) Cousins will revert to being... Cousins

GB +5.5 is a good play.

Plus if the Rams lose, the Vikes are in, so they might pull back even more.

Its unlikely for them to win the division

 

[FairWarning]

This has been the best thread in forumville all season, so thank you.

Cook will not play and very doubtful Mattison will either.

Speaking of ugly, that will be Pitt-Jets.

Fantasy-wise, the Buff-NE has a lot riding on it for the Ravens. If Buffalo wins, I believe Balt clinches the top seed. They may pull Jackson earlier.

 

[FairWarning]

Dome teams outside, no bueno. Denver teasers for me vs Detroit.

 

[bmiller]

This has been the best thread in forumville all season, so thank you.

Cook will not play and very doubtful Mattison will either.

Speaking of ugly, that will be Pitt-Jets.

Fantasy-wise, the Buff-NE has a lot riding on it for the Ravens. If Buffalo wins, I believe Balt clinches the top seed. They may pull Jackson earlier.

Buffalo wont win

 

[kane]

Jameis is now questionable with a thumb injury

 

[FairWarning]

Buffalo wont win

I give them a punchers chance in a big under game.

 

[Valuist]

Net minutes led thru week 15:

top 5:
1. Baltimore +458.5
2. New England +327.5
3. Kansas City +327
4. New Orleans +314.5
5. San Francisco +285.5

bottom 5:
32. Jacksonville -363.5
31. Miami -361.5
30. Cincinnati -337
29. NY Giants -331
28. Washington -301.5

 

[lap18]

Why is there no Thursday night game and 3 games Saturday. I realize there is usually 2 games on Saturday last couple weeks of season....but don't know why no game tonight. I prob should know this

 

[Valuist]

Why is there no Thursday night game and 3 games Saturday. I realize there is usually 2 games on Saturday last couple weeks of season....but don't know why no game tonight. I prob should know this

The product sucks on Thursday night and the players hate it. 4 days rest isn't enough. If the NFL actually cared about player safety, which they CLAIM to, they wouldn't have any Thursday night games.

 

[lap18]

Ok. Still wondering why no game tonight. The NFL must think more money for 3 Saturday games

 

[Sportsrmylife]

The product sucks on Thursday night and the players hate it. 4 days rest isn't enough. If the NFL actually cared about player safety, which they CLAIM to, they wouldn't have any Thursday night games.

Thursday night football is great. But it should be with two teams coming off a bye week. That way they get 10 days of rest before the game and then 10 after. A mini vacation.

 

[unluckysob]

Thursday night football is great. But it should be with two teams coming off a bye week. That way they get 10 days of rest before the game and then 10 after. A mini vacation.

6 or 7 weeks out of NFL season there are NO byes. Maybe skip Thursday games for those weeks.

 

[TheGuesser]

The Miami/Cindy game leaves me shaking my head

NO CLUE how Miami is only -1

They are the better team, at home and used to what will be warmer weather than the Bungals are used to playing in. This line makes no sense. I took Miami -1

Now Cinn is -1, even though over 60% of the action is on Miami. These teams stink, and the game stinks. I'm foolishly on Miami also, but they smell like dead fish.

 

[FairWarning]

Now Cinn is -1, even though over 60% of the action is on Miami. These teams stink, and the game stinks. I'm foolishly on Miami also, but they smell like dead fish.

Interesting line move. The Cinn D has played better, coinciding with Mixon running better. I still don’t want to back them to win on the road. Actually it makes Miami an attractive teaser option if they remain the dog.

 

[TheGuesser]

Interesting line move. The Cinn D has played better, coinciding with Mixon running better. I still don’t want to back them to win on the road. Actually it makes Miami an attractive teaser option if they remain the dog.

I guess the thinking is that Cinn has the #1 pick locked, and will play, and that Miami doesn't want to further hurt their draft choices by winning another game. But the players playing, and Flores Coaching, doesn't care about that.

 

[FairWarning]

I guess the thinking is that Cinn has the #1 pick locked, and will play, and that Miami doesn't want to further hurt their draft choices by winning another game. But the players playing, and Flores Coaching, doesn't care about that.

Cinn really should play the backup QB in that instance unless they don’t want to see him anymore.

 

[Valuist]

Do we even know who the number one is? Is it Young? Burrow? Most years there's very little clarity, so have to question the validity of tanking

 

[kane]

Cleveland +10

 

[kane]

I guess the thinking is that Cinn has the #1 pick locked, and will play, and that Miami doesn't want to further hurt their draft choices by winning another game. But the players playing, and Flores Coaching, doesn't care about that.

The Dolphins have very little talent, but Flores is coaching to win, he's said numerous times he doesn't care about the draft, he's only concerned with trying to win games. If the Dolphins were truly tanking they would have been starting Rosen over Fitzpatrick which would have pretty much ensured the first overall pick, the Dolphins have played hard all season, which is all you can ask of a bad team

 

[kane]

Interesting line move. The Cinn D has played better, coinciding with Mixon running better. I still don’t want to back them to win on the road. Actually it makes Miami an attractive teaser option if they remain the dog.

Mixon popped up on the injury list the other day, interested to see if he plays

 

[FairWarning]

Mixon popped up on the injury list the other day, interested to see if he plays

I missed this. I was going to use him this week in the Fantasy Survivor Pool at the Rx. Now I better find an alternative if needed.

 

[kane]

I missed this. I was going to use him this week in the Fantasy Survivor Pool at the Rx. Now I better find an alternative if needed.

He's been upgraded to probable with a calf injury

 

[winkyduck]

I guess the thinking is that Cinn has the #1 pick locked, and will play, and that Miami doesn't want to further hurt their draft choices by winning another game. But the players playing, and Flores Coaching, doesn't care about that.

No they don't!!!

Cincy wins this week and next against the Browns and if Miami loses next week at the Pats, Miami "falls" to #1. Not unrealistic by any means

 

[kane]

It's funny, but Dolphin fans will be rooting for the Bengals, and Bengal fans will be rooting for the Dolphins

 

[SlipperyPete]

No they don't!!!

Cincy wins this week and next against the Browns and if Miami loses next week at the Pats, Miami "falls" to #1. Not unrealistic by any means

Unless either the Skins or Giant lose out, then strength of schedule puts Cincy in first anyways.

 

[winkyduck]

Unless either the Skins or Giant lose out, then strength of schedule puts Cincy in first anyways.

If Cincy/Skins/Miami all finish 3-13 Miami picks #1 since they would have lost to both the Skins/Bungals

 

[FairWarning]

If Cincy/Skins/Miami all finish 3-13 Miami picks #1 since they would have lost to both the Skins/Bungals

Spots 1-20 only:

Ties between teams with identical records are determined by the following tiebreakers (in order): Strength of schedule, which is the combined win-loss record for all 16 of the team's opponents in the previous season (ties count as a half win and half loss).

If two or more teams have the same record, the weaker SOS gets the higher pick.

in summary -

1. First rank teams by strength of schedule, highest percentage getting the later pick
2. If all remaining tied teams are in the same division, run the division tiebreaker to assign teams starting with the later pick
3. If all remaining tied teams are in the same conference, run the conference tiebreaker to assign teams starting with the later pick
4. Interconference ties that remain are broken by coin flip at the NFL Combine

 

[Viejo Dinosaur]

The product sucks on Thursday night and the players hate it. 4 days rest isn't enough. If the NFL actually cared about player safety, which they CLAIM to, they wouldn't have any Thursday night games.

Absolutely agree...been saying this for years....

 

[kane]

LA Rams +7

 

[Valuist]

If Tampa could cut their turnovers a bit, they would be scary good. 5 turnovers today and minus 3, yet still pushed and in the game right until the end.

 

[Valuist]

Houston defense has now allowed over 400 yards in 4 of their last 6 games.
Tampa defense has allowed under 300 yards in 3 of their last 4.

 

[SlipperyPete]

Way too many times Watson looked like crap this season

 

[lap18]

If Tampa could cut their turnovers a bit, they would be scary good. 5 turnovers today and minus 3, yet still pushed and in the game right until the end.

Bruce Arians

 

[kane]

NYJ +3.5