NYG Daniel Jones
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FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
He looked good.
I was thisclose to following HEIM on the Giants -2.
Dammit.
Dammit.
Sol Diablo
House of Heat
It's amazing how many people fall for preseason performance.
It happens every year.
It happens every year.
Rams head coach Sean McVay did not play a single starter during the preseason last year.
Sol Diablo
House of Heat
Talking heads have to talk about something.
The NFL is the moneymaker.
So let's break down meaningless games because that's what's in front of us.
The wise ones will wait until 9/8/2019 to start making judgments.
The NFL is the moneymaker.
So let's break down meaningless games because that's what's in front of us.
The wise ones will wait until 9/8/2019 to start making judgments.
jimmythegreek
The opening odds start here
Everyone on Daily Wager was all over them. Then again they were all over the Oakland run line too.
Heim
EOG Master
Teams probably not....but it exposed Manziel & confirmed Trubinsky. It won't be long before Jones is named starter.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
More and more coaches are doing this, and it's why the Exhibition games will eventually go away, IMO. Nagy is following McVay's example.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
Nate Peterman is following his 130+ QB rating in the exhibitions last year with a 17-20 start this year. He's a great exhibition game QB because no one plays tight D. When the regular season starts and DB's jump on his weak armed passes, he throws lnt after Int.
mr merlin
EOG Master
In the vikes 1st preseason game against the saints, both teams agreed to not blitz, not even once, of course the radio heads are talking about how good the offensive line and the 1st team offense looked. lol.
I don't put much stock into pre season but I was a big Jones believer going into the draft.
Jones opened my eyes during the bowl game last year. During the fourth quarter with Duke comfortably ahead Jones took off on multiple runs while lowering his shoulder on LB's coming up to make the tackle. He did this while other lesser ranked players were sitting out their bowl games. That type of fire and toughness goes a long way to be a successful NFL QB.
In my opinion the 3 most important qualities to have to be a successful NFL QB.
1. Accuracy
Josh Allen was drafted very high because of his cannon but he has as much accuracy with his passes as Nuke Laloosh had with his fastball. Lamar Jackson can run and is a great athlete but is probably headed for a WR career before long.
2. Competitive drive
A QB who will do anything possible to get better means everything. I want a QB who will stay long hours to watch film and dedicate himself to the job. There have been so many lesser QB's who've had long careers who do that while more talented ones are out on the town at night soaking in their adoration from fans and female groupies. Baker Mayfield had a couple of incidents in college off the field but the number one reason he was my favorite QB from 2018 draft? He walked on at two different high profile programs. That's a guy who believes in himself and had to work harder to beat out pre selected guys on a depth chart.
3. Leadership
Pretty self explanatory
Jones opened my eyes during the bowl game last year. During the fourth quarter with Duke comfortably ahead Jones took off on multiple runs while lowering his shoulder on LB's coming up to make the tackle. He did this while other lesser ranked players were sitting out their bowl games. That type of fire and toughness goes a long way to be a successful NFL QB.
In my opinion the 3 most important qualities to have to be a successful NFL QB.
1. Accuracy
Josh Allen was drafted very high because of his cannon but he has as much accuracy with his passes as Nuke Laloosh had with his fastball. Lamar Jackson can run and is a great athlete but is probably headed for a WR career before long.
2. Competitive drive
A QB who will do anything possible to get better means everything. I want a QB who will stay long hours to watch film and dedicate himself to the job. There have been so many lesser QB's who've had long careers who do that while more talented ones are out on the town at night soaking in their adoration from fans and female groupies. Baker Mayfield had a couple of incidents in college off the field but the number one reason he was my favorite QB from 2018 draft? He walked on at two different high profile programs. That's a guy who believes in himself and had to work harder to beat out pre selected guys on a depth chart.
3. Leadership
Pretty self explanatory
TobyTyler
EOG Dedicated
Two /three seasons ago is when Eli got jittery .he doesn't have footwork anymore to sidestep, spin, even quick step up to give receiver that extra split second. He was never the most agile but when he developed yips cple years ago it was all over for him. I love the guy as a Giant fan but it's time to throw the other guy in there by midseason
Heim
EOG Master
Steve Palazzolo@PFF_Steve
Daniel Jones notes: -Running offense well. Finding open man, looks comfortable -Two excellent deep balls, one for the red zone TD. Two straight weeks w/good downfield accuracy -Poor fumble. Under heavy pressure, but saw it, didn’t handle it well. Not showing up in gaudy stats
That just about covers it......lets get those HOF doors open.
Daniel Jones notes: -Running offense well. Finding open man, looks comfortable -Two excellent deep balls, one for the red zone TD. Two straight weeks w/good downfield accuracy -Poor fumble. Under heavy pressure, but saw it, didn’t handle it well. Not showing up in gaudy stats
That just about covers it......lets get those HOF doors open.
WildBill
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Laying big points early in the season when everyone is motivated and rested certainly makes little sense. However, I think the sharps are thinking maybe the Cowboys don't have Zeke or if they do they use him sparingly making a big cover more possible. If they had Zeke at full steam that would have backdoor cover written all over it. If they are forced to use the passing game more and let the Giants be the fools running the ball too much, its more likely a big number gets covered.
Heim
EOG Master
Some Dallas money trickling in now that word has leaked Zeke leaving Cabo and heading to DAL to sign new deal...
Sol Diablo
House of Heat
Link? My FF draft starts in less than 2 hours..
Sol Diablo
House of Heat
Thanks.
I was the guy that drafted Lev Bell last season. At the time things hadn't got too nasty with the holdout yet and most people thought he would report before week 1.
I don't want to get burned again..
Sol Diablo
House of Heat
Draft room just opened and it looks like I have the number 6 pick. Right around where Zeke has been going.
Might be a tough call here. Gun shy due to being burned last year.
Might be a tough call here. Gun shy due to being burned last year.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Good thing Shephard is back, they are losing Barkley for a month.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
He had more yards on the ground today than Eli had in any SEASON since 2015.
He had more TD's on the ground today than Eli has ever had in a SEASON.
Don't know Jones' future but Eli has been holding this team back for years. Now they finally have a QB that can do modern QB things.
He had more TD's on the ground today than Eli has ever had in a SEASON.
Don't know Jones' future but Eli has been holding this team back for years. Now they finally have a QB that can do modern QB things.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
kane
EOG master
From day one I said DJ wouldn't be good, hated the pick when the Giants took him on draft day, here's what I posted in April of 2019
Apr 26, 2019
Here's a Jeopardy question in a few years
Answer: Daniel Jones
Question: Why did Giants GM Dave Gettleman lose his job?
Apr 26, 2019
Here's a Jeopardy question in a few years
Answer: Daniel Jones
Question: Why did Giants GM Dave Gettleman lose his job?
Heim
EOG Master
Look at all these high picks holding clipboards or about to from Young to Lawrence.
IMO they have no clue how to develop these guys properly. First they rush them and then change OCs like socks. Impossible to develop in that scenari
pro analyser
EOG Dedicated
you are right. I would think with the computer chips installed one day they will come closer to see who a better selection could be. Even if you got the best selection there is still what's inside the players brain that teams have to worry about.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
It’s only going to get worse as kids will keep leaving school early to chase the NFL pot of gold.
maybe they will install a contract on all rookies they could only make so much out of high school / college...doesn't the MLB have something that limits amount of money?