LAKERS FOULED AND OFFICIALS BLEW IT..
I AM NOT COMPLAINING BECAUSE I HAD THEM BUT WHAT A BAD NON CALL
I AM NOT COMPLAINING BECAUSE I HAD THEM BUT WHAT A BAD NON CALL
If you dont get the ball to Duncan, Parker of Ginobili you aren't going to get a call in the league in the final seconds. Brent Barry isn't going to get a whistle in the final seconds because he is Brent Barry.
That's the way it is in the association.....I know it's not right but that's the way it is.
Turiaf, Luke Walton, or the other scrubs would not get this call either if they were in the same situation.
IF HE FLOPS AFTER THE CONTACT AND DOESN'T SHOOT, THE REFS MAY HAVE CALLED IT..
First of all the Spurs had the benefit of officials most of game...
If he had taken the shot initially it'd have been called. Should've inbounded to Ginobli at least he would've had more sense.
Joey Crawford Wants To Fight Tim Duncan
Posted Apr 15th 2007 10:31PM by Brett Edwards
Filed under: Mavericks, Spurs, Western, NBA Gossip, Featured Stories
It's not unusual for NBA players to get into heated arguments with officials and say some crazy things. It is, however, unusual for the official to come back with something even crazier. That's exactly what happened today during the game between the Spurs and the Mavericks, if you believe Tim Duncan's side of the story. Duncan received his second technical and was ejected for seemingly just laughing on the bench after a call went against the Spurs, and Duncan believes that referee Joey Crawford wanted to get physical:
"He looked at me and said, 'Do you want to fight? Do you want to fight?" If he wants to fight, we can fight. I don't have any problem with him, but we can do it if he wants to. I have no reason why in the middle of a game he would yell at me, 'Do you want to fight?"'That sounds like a challenge to me. Maybe we can schedule it during halftime of an upcoming playoff game, you know, similar to that race that went down between Charles Barkley and Dick Bavetta.
Duncan went on to say that he said only three words to Crawford all day ("I got fouled"), so the referee must have come into the game with some sort of vendetta against him. Naturally, Crawford disagreed:"... he was complaining the whole game. And then he went over to the bench and he was over there doing the same stuff behind our back. I hit him with one (technical) and he kept going over there, and I look over there and he's still complaining. So I threw him out."Crawford was interviewed before Duncan spoke to the media, so unfortunately no one got to ask him if he really was challenging Duncan to a fight.
I don't know if Crawford has a personal issue with Duncan, or if Timmy did enough today to actually get himself ejected. I do know that San Antonio has the reputation, as a team, of being the biggest complainers in the NBA when it comes to the officiating. So it wouldn't exactly be shocking if some of the refs had a bit of a quick whistle when it comes to T-ing up the Spurs.
Sorry Shrinkie-poo
GOOD (NO) Call
Barry made the mistake there of after contact dribbling meaning the contact did NOT affect the shot. When Fisher is up in the air if Barry goes up for the shot and gets creamed THEN you have to call a foul but the way that play went GOOD NO CALL and honestly i woulda called it the same had i been the official there[/quote
I agree winky. He fakes and jumps into him its a foul. He faked and dribbles underneath him. No foul
I still think it was a horribly drawn play, yeah i understand 2.1 or 2.4 left but still, you are only down 2 try to get something higher % wise and play for OT.
Before we even discuss last night's incident, how is it the NBA placed Joey Crawford on duty to call a very important game with the San Antonio Spurs involved?
Believe me, I'll take a Spurs loss anyway I can get one, but based on the numerous past incidents with Crawford and the Spurs, Tim Duncan in particular, he should never call a San Antonio playoff game. There are plenty of other lousy officials out there to take his place.
Last night near the end of the 1st quarter, several Hornets and Spurs kept switching up their spots on the block. This happens now and then with a little cat and mouse shifting. What Crawford should have done was walk into the lane and stop the movement. Instead, he called a technical delay of game on both teams.
Popovich wasn't pleased, for what he thought was a bad misinterpretation of the rules:
?I believe the official was incorrect. We?ve gone through this before a couple of years ago in our Sacramento series, and it happened to be with Bonzi (Wells). The team that?s shooting the free throw has to make the first choice about where they?re gong to be placed. So the delay of game should be on that team, not on both.?At the time he didn't have a similarly calm explanation. Instead Pops and Crawford were angrily discussing the call and like a typical NBA official who wants to be bigger than the game, he poked the Spurs coach in the chest a few times and was clearly the aggressor in an argument that didn't need to happen.
Joey Crawford is everything that's wrong with the NBA officials. They think they are part of the game, the entertainment. Their egos are far too large to perform their duties appropriately and have trouble admitting to in-game mistakes and take it out the players and coaches. That's not basketball.
I was hoping Coach Pops was going to ask Joey "if he wanted to fight." You know Tim Duncan would have approved.
May 27, 2008
Tom Orsborn: Crawford doesn't worry Popovich
The inclusion of Joey Crawford, who a San Antonio radio station a couple of hours ago compared to one of America's most notorious serial killers, in tonight's officiating crew will have "absolutely no effect whatsoever" on the outcome of tonight's game, Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said.
Crawford has had numerous run-ins with Tim Duncan and Popovich in recent years, including one with the later during Game 5 of the New Orleans series. Because of those dust-ups, it would be no stretch to say he's the most hated official among Spurs fans.
Still, Popovich took the high road when asked during his pre-game media briefing about Crawford, who hit the coach with a technical in New Orleans after poking him in the chest.
"It doesn't matter who the officials are for a game," Popovich said. "They are going to do their best job to officiate just like the Lakers and the Spurs are going to do their best job to play a good game. Whatever the pool is, you can pick three guys out of a hat. It doesn't matter. That's irrelevant to the outcome of the game."
Popovich's comments, however, probably won't do much to put Spurs fans at ease. During ESPN 1250's afternoon show, co-host Chris Duel likened Crawford to Charles Manson of Helter Skelter fame.
Sorry Shrinkie-poo
GOOD (NO) Call
Barry made the mistake there of after contact dribbling meaning the contact did NOT affect the shot. When Fisher is up in the air if Barry goes up for the shot and gets creamed THEN you have to call a foul but the way that play went GOOD NO CALL and honestly i woulda called it the same had i been the official there
You go from forum to forum and just about everyone else believe that should be a foul. You are definitely in the minority.
No, the key to officiating is to remain consistent.As for the last play of the game Tuesday, the RIGHT call was made - or rather NOT made. Was there contact on the play? YES and even Stevie Wonder knows it. But the key to officiating is deciding when contact has created "Impact and Advantage". On the play there was contact but AFTER the contact Brent Barry took a dribble and THEN fired up the shot - so no ADVANTAGE was gained or lost by the contact. Once Barry got Fisher in the air D-Fish was helpless and had Barry gone up for the shot Fisher would have clobbered him and THEN a foul would have been called but once Barry dribbles the ball - the foul had no IMPACT on the play - so NO FOUL! As many games as I have officiated I wouldn't have called a foul and I know almost all of my colleagues would have done the same. And if free throws had been awarded for the contact Barry should have only gotten 2 NOT 3 because after contact he dribbled and was fouled on the floor - and NOT in the act of shooting - so ONLY 2 shots not 3
No, the key to officiating is to remain consistent.
I really don't think this was a consistently called game, but because I feel the Spurs were the beneficiaries of this all game long, I can live with the no call at the end there. Fact is, had Barry taken the shot initially and not avoided getting crashed into hard, they'd have been forced to blow the whistle.
As for the last play of the game Tuesday, the RIGHT call was made - or rather NOT made. Was there contact on the play? YES and even Stevie Wonder knows it. But the key to officiating is deciding when contact has created "Impact and Advantage". On the play there was contact but AFTER the contact Brent Barry took a dribble and THEN fired up the shot - so no ADVANTAGE was gained or lost by the contact. Once Barry got Fisher in the air D-Fish was helpless and had Barry gone up for the shot Fisher would have clobbered him and THEN a foul would have been called but once Barry dribbles the ball - the foul had no IMPACT on the play - so NO FOUL! As many games as I have officiated I wouldn't have called a foul and I know almost all of my colleagues would have done the same. And if free throws had been awarded for the contact Barry should have only gotten 2 NOT 3 because after contact he dribbled and was fouled on the floor - and NOT in the act of shooting - so ONLY 2 shots not 3
Also, you don't want to reward a player who's shooting an extremely high percentage shot that probably isn't going anyway.