OT: Another question about the BUSHAY BOX

#1
I realize this isn't a gambling related thread, but there seem to be a lot of people with knowledge in this area (RAIDERS, TRY, WANTI, BUSHEY).

I am basically sick of getting raped every month paying for TV. I mostly only watch sports and the odd news channel. I don't care about watching movies. What is my most cost effective way to get decent quality TV? My plan is to purchase an Amazon firestick and subscribe to Nitro TV for $20 per month. That's all. Would I be happy with that?

Thanks guys.

NAP
 
#2
Yeah it is great for that, only thing is that the feeds on sports are delayed like 30 seconds, so if you need to do live betting wouldn't recommend.

Otherwise it is fantastic, awesome deal for price. Bushay is quick to answer questions and a good guy.

I'm still paying cable around $150/mo TV portion for 4 digital recv boxes with DVRs, total ripoff.
 
#4
how do you guys get cheaper internet.

With my provider I can cut all I want, the price will be pretty much the same
You need to play the switcherooo game, unfortunately. And never call your ISP direct. The guys walking door to door pounding the pavement or even the flyers you get in your mail will get you a much better price than calling the company directly. Plus you have a contact person going forward if you have problems. Normal pricing here in the Detroit area is $49 for 100 mps, $59 for 500 mps and $79 for 1 gig mps. You need more speed to watch live tv than watching something on Netflix or Hulu. No lower than 50mps is what I suggest to my customers while 100 is the national average I've been told. The cost between 50 - 100 is minimal. Don't go cheap, you're only asking for problems.
 
#5
You need to play the switcherooo game, unfortunately. And never call your ISP direct. The guys walking door to door pounding the pavement or even the flyers you get in your mail will get you a much better price than calling the company directly. Plus you have a contact person going forward if you have problems. Normal pricing here in the Detroit area is $49 for 100 mps, $59 for 500 mps and $79 for 1 gig mps. You need more speed to watch live tv than watching something on Netflix or Hulu. No lower than 50mps is what I suggest to my customers while 100 is the national average I've been told. The cost between 50 - 100 is minimal. Don't go cheap, you're only asking for problems.
Excellent information and advice here.
 
#6
You only need 25 mbps to watch a 4K stream if its not getting split or filtered which most do. And you dont have anything else running on your network/wi-fi. Its actually even less. You can run 4K alone with a 'pure' 15mbps. It may buffer some depending on power of what youre watching it through.

Speed really doesnt matter though, all it does is give a cushion for multiple devices and how much they also use. Speed really has nothing to do with buffering or quality of anything as long as its enough it will be enough, having more doesnt improve anything. It all comes down to bottlenecks elsewhere and speed isnt a bottleneck. Most bottlenecks are at the source. Even Netflix, Amazon, Hulu or any 'professional' they have a max bitrate they stream at, your internet speed has zero to do with that. Other than if youre trying to watch 4 or 5 high quality streams at the same time. Faster (more bandwidth) will obviously improve it since you have to divide the overall usage to simultaneous usage. So call it 5Mbps for a 1080 feed. If you want to watch 4 of those at the same time you need 20Mbps minimum to (theoretically) get those to run smooth. There are other factors obviously. You should try for a decent buffer. Most people have way over 25 these days. But 25 should be enough to stream 2 or 3 TVs/devices and also run a computer or a laptop.

Whats most important now is caps and if they start throttling your speed (well below minimums) if you use too much data a month. If youre streaming high quality stuff regularly and using a PC regularly youre going to use between 300-500 GB a month. I run a few TVs and a high end PC and my usage has been between 250-400 since Oct.

Irony is most now offer TV/internet combo with a better price than straight internet. Basically paying you for having the TV service active.

As for those bottlenecks, a stick is going to be a bottleneck compared to a box/cube and a TV with it built is will offer the least bottlenecking for inclusive devices. A high quality PC with a good processor, RAM, and GPU is going to offer the least bottleneck of all.

But for 'normal' usage a stick should be good enough. But if there are other issues going into it it cant piggy back them. A TV or a computer can actually help a 'bad' feed a little bit.

Right now for the price the TVs are a nobrainer IMO. Less than 400 bucks for a 4K 55 in TV. They all get updated and there isnt much fear of becoming 'obsolete' or replaced with better tech any time soon. They may have some that come out later with more storage or RAM and even a better processor but what exists now is more than enough for current and even possible future improvements to some streaming improvements. Until 8K TVs come out, which has been greatly delayed due to the bottlenecks and logistic issues I mentioned. 4K is it and even that isnt getting all it should even through cable, internet, satellite. Because it uses so much more data. And since everyone is streaming now these companies have been caught flat footed a little bit on how to charge people for that extra data (beyond putting in caps or slowing data down at certain levels).

Now if you have something bigger than a 55 in then youre going to want to plug something into it. Cubes have been cut in half in price. SO they seem like a decent deal, but that also usually means theyre going to come out with something better. In the case of cubes and things like that that is generally an actual 'improvement' not just an update. The improvements also come in what matters most, processor power, RAM and storage space. But similar to the TVs cubes have enough for 'normal' stuff right now. But more is always better and they are still not comparable to the TVs and what they offer. So an upgraded cube is going to see a bigger improvement over the last gen cube than an upgraded TV will have over the previous generation TV.

If you feel you MUST sub to an IPTV then get the best deal you can. Thats still the 7+2 month (I think I havent looked in awhile) on Nitro. Other places offer the same thing. I just know Nitro is the fan favorite here. But there have been MULTIPLE FREE Apps and websites people can get free TV as well as sports. Yoursports.stream best one for most people. You need a browser for it so Puffin TV or Chrome to watch on that one. You need a PC actually to get the most out of that site. Maybe a smaller TV will have enough power, but a stick or a cube isnt going to get the most out of that site on a large screen. I have tested it on everything except a cube and it has bottlenecks on each device, and the bottlenecks multiply as you try and 'increase' performance/output and increase size of screen.

Basically right now everyone knows you can get free TV shows and movies on multiple apps and APKs. Its what people expect from live TV which should be 99% sports related, unless youre a fag or a socialist and want to watch awards shows live. But most of those are available through 'legit' free apps as well. If you can get all your sports for free (Internet not withstanding) I dont see any reason to pay for it. Thats the whole point of streaming anyway. To get stuff for free. People that are on youtube or promoting paid shit are all getting a kick back of some sort and they sell 'fear' or worst case scenario shit that rarely comes up, and if it does its not worth the price you have to pay to avoid it. Even on those off times a live stream stops or buffers it takes a simple starting over of the feed to 'fix' it.
 
#9
yeah 500 should be more than enough, you should be able to monitor it. 720 uses just under 1GB per hour, 1080 is about 1.5 GB per hour. 4K is a little more than 7 GB per hour. So basically do some division. Youll get over 500 hours of 720 quality. 333 of 1080 and 71 if you stream all 4k stuff. Of course youre going to have other things using data as well. But 500 is tough I think I only hit it a couple times and that was when I was watching a ton of 4K stuff.

Also those numbers are also from most streaming services. When you use Apps and APKS the numbers in parentheses after a link is the actual number youre going to use in terms of data. So you go to Cinema HD and click an episode and you see 40 links looking like 720p-SeriesNine [Streamango] [417MB]. That means its supposed to be a 1280x 720 feed that will use 417 MB data. You might also see a 720p- SeriesNine [CDN-FastServer][122MB]. That too is supposed to be a 1280x720 feed. It may or may not be it depends. But generally speaking no matter if they say 1080 or 720 or even HD the more MB of data the better the quality for the most part. Some services like Google and Icefilms actually give better quality with less data than some. The only way to know what the quality is is to run the internal resolution on your TV if you have it, or some APKs will show it when you open the interface. All Morphues close wil show it. Sometimes you cant tell the difference but sometimes its obvious. But thats more about quality rather than usage.

So if you start streaming 12 hours a day youre probably going to start getting close to 400 GB a month. Thats a relatively general mix of even some 4K stuff.
 
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