OT: Another question about the BUSHAY BOX

#1
I realize this isn't a gambling related thread, but there seem to be a lot of people with knowledge in this area (RAIDERS, TRY, WANTI, BUSHEY).

I am basically sick of getting raped every month paying for TV. I mostly only watch sports and the odd news channel. I don't care about watching movies. What is my most cost effective way to get decent quality TV? My plan is to purchase an Amazon firestick and subscribe to Nitro TV for $20 per month. That's all. Would I be happy with that?

Thanks guys.

NAP
 

ChiTownJoe

EOG Dedicated
#2
Yeah it is great for that, only thing is that the feeds on sports are delayed like 30 seconds, so if you need to do live betting wouldn't recommend.

Otherwise it is fantastic, awesome deal for price. Bushay is quick to answer questions and a good guy.

I'm still paying cable around $150/mo TV portion for 4 digital recv boxes with DVRs, total ripoff.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
#4
how do you guys get cheaper internet.

With my provider I can cut all I want, the price will be pretty much the same
You need to play the switcherooo game, unfortunately. And never call your ISP direct. The guys walking door to door pounding the pavement or even the flyers you get in your mail will get you a much better price than calling the company directly. Plus you have a contact person going forward if you have problems. Normal pricing here in the Detroit area is $49 for 100 mps, $59 for 500 mps and $79 for 1 gig mps. You need more speed to watch live tv than watching something on Netflix or Hulu. No lower than 50mps is what I suggest to my customers while 100 is the national average I've been told. The cost between 50 - 100 is minimal. Don't go cheap, you're only asking for problems.
 
#5
You need to play the switcherooo game, unfortunately. And never call your ISP direct. The guys walking door to door pounding the pavement or even the flyers you get in your mail will get you a much better price than calling the company directly. Plus you have a contact person going forward if you have problems. Normal pricing here in the Detroit area is $49 for 100 mps, $59 for 500 mps and $79 for 1 gig mps. You need more speed to watch live tv than watching something on Netflix or Hulu. No lower than 50mps is what I suggest to my customers while 100 is the national average I've been told. The cost between 50 - 100 is minimal. Don't go cheap, you're only asking for problems.
Excellent information and advice here.
 
#6
You only need 25 mbps to watch a 4K stream if its not getting split or filtered which most do. And you dont have anything else running on your network/wi-fi. Its actually even less. You can run 4K alone with a 'pure' 15mbps. It may buffer some depending on power of what youre watching it through.

Speed really doesnt matter though, all it does is give a cushion for multiple devices and how much they also use. Speed really has nothing to do with buffering or quality of anything as long as its enough it will be enough, having more doesnt improve anything. It all comes down to bottlenecks elsewhere and speed isnt a bottleneck. Most bottlenecks are at the source. Even Netflix, Amazon, Hulu or any 'professional' they have a max bitrate they stream at, your internet speed has zero to do with that. Other than if youre trying to watch 4 or 5 high quality streams at the same time. Faster (more bandwidth) will obviously improve it since you have to divide the overall usage to simultaneous usage. So call it 5Mbps for a 1080 feed. If you want to watch 4 of those at the same time you need 20Mbps minimum to (theoretically) get those to run smooth. There are other factors obviously. You should try for a decent buffer. Most people have way over 25 these days. But 25 should be enough to stream 2 or 3 TVs/devices and also run a computer or a laptop.

Whats most important now is caps and if they start throttling your speed (well below minimums) if you use too much data a month. If youre streaming high quality stuff regularly and using a PC regularly youre going to use between 300-500 GB a month. I run a few TVs and a high end PC and my usage has been between 250-400 since Oct.

Irony is most now offer TV/internet combo with a better price than straight internet. Basically paying you for having the TV service active.

As for those bottlenecks, a stick is going to be a bottleneck compared to a box/cube and a TV with it built is will offer the least bottlenecking for inclusive devices. A high quality PC with a good processor, RAM, and GPU is going to offer the least bottleneck of all.

But for 'normal' usage a stick should be good enough. But if there are other issues going into it it cant piggy back them. A TV or a computer can actually help a 'bad' feed a little bit.

Right now for the price the TVs are a nobrainer IMO. Less than 400 bucks for a 4K 55 in TV. They all get updated and there isnt much fear of becoming 'obsolete' or replaced with better tech any time soon. They may have some that come out later with more storage or RAM and even a better processor but what exists now is more than enough for current and even possible future improvements to some streaming improvements. Until 8K TVs come out, which has been greatly delayed due to the bottlenecks and logistic issues I mentioned. 4K is it and even that isnt getting all it should even through cable, internet, satellite. Because it uses so much more data. And since everyone is streaming now these companies have been caught flat footed a little bit on how to charge people for that extra data (beyond putting in caps or slowing data down at certain levels).

Now if you have something bigger than a 55 in then youre going to want to plug something into it. Cubes have been cut in half in price. SO they seem like a decent deal, but that also usually means theyre going to come out with something better. In the case of cubes and things like that that is generally an actual 'improvement' not just an update. The improvements also come in what matters most, processor power, RAM and storage space. But similar to the TVs cubes have enough for 'normal' stuff right now. But more is always better and they are still not comparable to the TVs and what they offer. So an upgraded cube is going to see a bigger improvement over the last gen cube than an upgraded TV will have over the previous generation TV.

If you feel you MUST sub to an IPTV then get the best deal you can. Thats still the 7+2 month (I think I havent looked in awhile) on Nitro. Other places offer the same thing. I just know Nitro is the fan favorite here. But there have been MULTIPLE FREE Apps and websites people can get free TV as well as sports. Yoursports.stream best one for most people. You need a browser for it so Puffin TV or Chrome to watch on that one. You need a PC actually to get the most out of that site. Maybe a smaller TV will have enough power, but a stick or a cube isnt going to get the most out of that site on a large screen. I have tested it on everything except a cube and it has bottlenecks on each device, and the bottlenecks multiply as you try and 'increase' performance/output and increase size of screen.

Basically right now everyone knows you can get free TV shows and movies on multiple apps and APKs. Its what people expect from live TV which should be 99% sports related, unless youre a fag or a socialist and want to watch awards shows live. But most of those are available through 'legit' free apps as well. If you can get all your sports for free (Internet not withstanding) I dont see any reason to pay for it. Thats the whole point of streaming anyway. To get stuff for free. People that are on youtube or promoting paid shit are all getting a kick back of some sort and they sell 'fear' or worst case scenario shit that rarely comes up, and if it does its not worth the price you have to pay to avoid it. Even on those off times a live stream stops or buffers it takes a simple starting over of the feed to 'fix' it.
 
#8
One more question, men.

How much monthly data do I need to stream Nitro TV all day?
Nevermind. I see WANTI answered this exact question in the post above.

My current plan is equipped for 500GB per month and I was wondering if I should pay more for UNLIMITED. Looks like 500 should be fine.
 
#9
yeah 500 should be more than enough, you should be able to monitor it. 720 uses just under 1GB per hour, 1080 is about 1.5 GB per hour. 4K is a little more than 7 GB per hour. So basically do some division. Youll get over 500 hours of 720 quality. 333 of 1080 and 71 if you stream all 4k stuff. Of course youre going to have other things using data as well. But 500 is tough I think I only hit it a couple times and that was when I was watching a ton of 4K stuff.

Also those numbers are also from most streaming services. When you use Apps and APKS the numbers in parentheses after a link is the actual number youre going to use in terms of data. So you go to Cinema HD and click an episode and you see 40 links looking like 720p-SeriesNine [Streamango] [417MB]. That means its supposed to be a 1280x 720 feed that will use 417 MB data. You might also see a 720p- SeriesNine [CDN-FastServer][122MB]. That too is supposed to be a 1280x720 feed. It may or may not be it depends. But generally speaking no matter if they say 1080 or 720 or even HD the more MB of data the better the quality for the most part. Some services like Google and Icefilms actually give better quality with less data than some. The only way to know what the quality is is to run the internal resolution on your TV if you have it, or some APKs will show it when you open the interface. All Morphues close wil show it. Sometimes you cant tell the difference but sometimes its obvious. But thats more about quality rather than usage.

So if you start streaming 12 hours a day youre probably going to start getting close to 400 GB a month. Thats a relatively general mix of even some 4K stuff.
 
#12
Anyone know which is the actual nitro site? I see like 3 different versions of it?
I also see only paypal as a payment, is that the only way or do they allow bitcoins?
 
#17
I bought the Amazon Firestick posted above and go through nitrotviptv.com . The only problem that I've had is that once in a while some news channels have both 1080 and 720. The 1080 may freeze up, the 720 is fine. I've never had to call or email anyone. Also as posted above, there is that 30 second delay when watching sports.

Paid $167.95 for 8 months that includes 2 devices.
 
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Bushay

NHL Expert
#18
I bought the Amazon Firestick posted above and go through nitrotviptv.com . The only problem that I've had is that once in a while some news channels have both 1080 and 720. The 1080 may freeze up, the 720 is fine. I've never had to call or email anyone. Also as posted above, there is that 30 second delay when watching sports.

Paid $167.95 for 8 months that includes 2 devices.
You got smoked. I sell that same package for $120. Plus tons of perks and discounts if you send people my way. You must have jumped on the very first reseller page you came across.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
#21
I got "smoked" for $6/month.
Actually, I’ve heard resellers talk that they get $35-40 a month. But those are to the customers they can take advantage of. I’m not about that. You get greedy and it will catch up with you down the road. None of these services are perfect. Far from it. And that’s why the price gets so low. We don’t have many issues, but when we do I remind them that’s why they are paying $15 a month. I also keep a backup service for those times. In fact I have 2 backups currently. I also provide mine with virtually round the clock support should they need it. You’d be surprised at how many lose their passwords or delete an app wanting to install a newer version and no idea what to do next. It doesn’t sound like you are one of those guys. My FB and Telegram groups are close to 500 strong. And they keep me hopping. I also provide them with support for most all the firestick apps I install on all their sticks and boxes I sell them. Nothing they can’t watch on all the latest updated apps. My nephews in sales for one of the internet companies locally. I’ve helped prolly over 50 change their isp service to a cheaper and many times faster service. I’m a one stop shop. I bet there’s not 5 guys in the whole country who do what I do. All for $15 a month if they got nitro from me, and complimentary if they just bought a stick and passed on the Nitro.
 
#22
I bought the Amazon Firestick posted above and go through nitrotviptv.com . The only problem that I've had is that once in a while some news channels have both 1080 and 720. The 1080 may freeze up, the 720 is fine. I've never had to call or email anyone. Also as posted above, there is that 30 second delay when watching sports.

Paid $167.95 for 8 months that includes 2 devices.
You got smoked. I sell that same package for $120. Plus tons of perks and discounts if you send people my way. You must have jumped on the very first reseller page you came across.
And its 96 direct buy for 7 monthshttps://nitrotvservice.com/payments?olsPage=t/monthly-payments&page=1&sortOption=ascend_by_price . Or 90 from this one. https://nitrotv.pro/cart/

But yes 1080 feeds are going to freeze on a stick especially live ones, even with a decent source feed. Tried to explain the reasons why a dozen times over but no one cares or understands. Even if you subscribe to Amazon or Netflix or any of those 'legit' streaming services and you 'test' them by running them through a stick they also buffer and hang. But generally you dont have to do that with 'smart' TVs since they offer direct connect. So if the TV is decent then there wont be any issues.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
#23
Said the guy who admittedly doesn’t have or use a 4K stick and thinks a discontinued tv with a built in firestick is a great idea. Lol.
 
#24
why do I need a stick or a box when every TV I has has Amazon built into it? Discontinued or not. You have a cheap version of a current one, you showed it in that screenshot you had trying to 'prove' something. Ironically that a stick could run 4 1080P streams at once (which they cant). But if sticks cant run 1080 how are they going to run 4K?

Basically advocating a stick over anything else is like advocating a bicycle over a motor cycle.

But you are wrong I have a few boxes and one stick left. All 4K but why use them? I have given a few away to people but most are too lazy to click through the apps. Which is ironic since the 'official' apps are all the same process as the free ones. Guys paying 17 bucks a month or whatever for HBO to watch GoT I show them about 4 Apps where its as good a quality feed and available when their sub one is. Which is also ironic since HBO now is maybe the easiest sub based app to 'pirate' since everyone can use the same account from as many devices in as many locations as there are and all watch it under the same password.
 
#25
Don't over complicate everything. Either buy yourself a fire stick and check for the best price to get Nitro TV or go through Bushay. NitroTV has every channel that there is in the United States plus channels from a ton of other countries.
 
#26
So I got the Firestick and subscribed to Nitro. However, I'm having severe buffering issues, but seemingly only with MLB games. Other channels work fine. Any idea what's up? My Mbps is around 45.
 
#27
So I got the Firestick and subscribed to Nitro. However, I'm having severe buffering issues, but seemingly only with MLB games. Other channels work fine. Any idea what's up? My Mbps is around 45.
MLB is a little rough. You may have to try the feed from both teams or MLB extra innings channel. If all else fails, the Sports (USA/CA) may work.
 
#28
MLB is a little rough. You may have to try the feed from both teams or MLB extra innings channel. If all else fails, the Sports (USA/CA) may work.
Thanks Raiders. Yeah I tried that and it didn't seem to make a difference. I've also noticed a lag in the past using MLB TV on Apple TV.

In any case, am thrilled with Nitro TV so far.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
#29
Thanks Raiders. Yeah I tried that and it didn't seem to make a difference. I've also noticed a lag in the past using MLB TV on Apple TV.

In any case, am thrilled with Nitro TV so far.
What do you mean by a lag? Unfortunately there is about a 20 sec lag on all on it if you are receiving it from the net.

If you have the newest apple tv where you can add apps, GSE IPTV is a great app to watch Nitro on.
 

svbettor

EOG Senior Member
#30
I have heard nitro is good but as Bushay knows. I am still on smooth streams paying 52 bucks for 6 months that covers all sports for 60 min. Yes there are some freezing and issues but I like the fact I can watch 14 games simultaneously on my 2 computers and 2 tvs ..... I do not know if Nitro can do that ?


--SVBettor
 
#31
LMAO now the truth is coming out. You guys are paying for subs and youre all still buffering and lagging. I would say its 80% because youre running it through a stick. Go spend the money and get an older 4K box. Pretty sure theyre better than the cubes are right now. Sticks suck.

Despite being 4K rated the sticks are much better served running 720 feeds. The older boxes will run 1080 and even 4K, I dont know about the new cubes. One would think they would be better than the older 3rd gen 4K boxes but I am not so sure. Those boxes were definitely better than the dongle rig they came out with before they pushed the cube.

But the very best set up is a Sony Android TV, as I mentioned awhile ago. But theyre still pretty expensive, especially compared to the Amazon TV. But the quality of the Sonys is vastly superior on all levels especially picture quality. But youre talking a 55 in Toshiba with Amazon being about 350 and a lower end Sony 55 in being about 1300. Ironically the best bang for the buck is the TCL which is Roku exclusive. Which doesnt allow you to sideload the best apps. but for 'legit' streaming its probably the best TV youre going to find for the money.

Like I said youre going to get bottlenecks on lower end shit be it a stick, a feed, or the TV itself. But if youre paying for a sub and your buffering and lagging then its whatever your hardware is thats causing it. Or theyre running you thorough shit servers and if more than 2 people are trying to access the same feed it slows you down.

Sticks are 50 bucks for a reason...they suck and your phone is actually going to be a much better alternative. Seriously dont even bother with a stick and sideload your shit onto a tablet or a laptop or even your desk top and if your TV has wi fi or even if you want to hard wire it with HDMI youre better off doing that than fucking around with a stick. Your basically paying for the remote. Also something I said awhile ago. Getting off your lazy ass to load the next show wouldnt hurt most of you anyway I am sure.

Like I said go to this website:
http://yoursports.stream/ and try it through your stick or your box or whatever. You need a browser to play it on any of them. I have linked those a half dozen times as well. Chrome or Penguin. Penguin is on the google store or was last time I checked.

If that site buffers and lags then its definitely your hardware. (stick or box) and not the feeds because I have tested that site out a lot lately and it runs perfectly on everything that is powerful enough to run it with absolutely zero lag/buffering. I Watched the Derby on it and that definitely had more people streaming than random baseball games and it ran without a hitch.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
#33
Buffering RARELY has anything to with your device or Nitro TV. Some of the others have intermittent buffering. Recently deceased Vaders a prime example. Nitro owner spends to the limit to make their system run as smooth as possible. With that said a higher end Android box or a 4K firestick will give you a much better experience than the older firesticks most have since before the 4K sticks came out the end of last year. Again, I've seen a few benchmark tests claiming the 4K sticks ranked 4th behind the Nvidia Shield and a couple of other Octocore Android boxes. If you're on the fence and just flat out don't want to use a firestick. Getting an Octocore box I've been told really cuts down on any buffering. I have a Shield and would use it much more often if it wasn't for the damn remote that comes with it. The same issue I have with the Android boxes. Their remotes all suck as Amazon makes the best remote in the business. Flat out. You want to use something comfortable in your hand as its what you will be using most of the time you are surfing or watching. A lot of buffering is just plain unavoidable. Even cable TVs that are hardwired get buffering from time to time. Heres some examples I've learned over the years that cause buffering or a less than stellar performance. Our NItro owner explains to us how when channels get overloaded, he has to do what he calls " load balancing". We may get buffering early in an event but then have clear sailing the rest of the fight or game after he balances the channels. Even HBO experienced this in episode 1 of this last season of the Game of Thrones. People thought it was their IPTV providers fault. It wasn't.

If you're renting a Modem/Router from your ISP and do not have their higher end fiber optic service, go buy yourself a new one. Most will give you a refurbished combo unit and they are all junk. My nephew works for a local ISP company and did installs before going into sales. Those old ones cause 75% of all their service calls. Do your homework or send me a PM here as there are a lot of factors involved in picking one RIGHT for your setup. I've been thru at least 5 tying to figure this out personally. The new Mesh routers are what you want as they will cover all the dead spots in your home. Buy separate units [Modem/router]. But they ain't cheap. For the same obvious reason you don't want a firestick built into your tv, if one malfunctions, you need to replace everything.

Where you place your router is important. You don't want your router in the basement in a closet cause your wife thinks it looks gaudy in your home. The least obstructive path your signal takes, the better. They don't go thru walls well, concrete, drywall, wooden, metal...it will need to going around to reach your tv.

Router placement. Having your router sit too close to your device or tv can be just as bad as your router being placed too far away in another room or floor of the house. If your router is, for instance, positioned right next to, or under your tv, move it if you can 5-10 feet away is what I tell all my customers. And get it up high if you're using other devices in another room. That signal will travel better up there than on the ground.

Download the Speedtest.net app on your phone and stand right next to your tv and run a test. Do that in multiple locations of your home so you know what area gets a decent signal and what doesn't. A decent way to test the speed your paying for as opposed to what you are actually getting. Also, keep in mind, you are only going to get a reading for about 75% of what your paying for while testing thru wifi. So if you pay for 100 MPS and your speedtest result shows around 75 speed. That's about right and you're getting what you're paying for more than likely. If you call and complain, just know that they will have you test your speed hard wired on your PC with everything else unplugged. In other words, they will have you disconnect your router completely and run an ethernet cord from your Modem directly into the back of your desktop or laptop.

Buy a wifi adapter so you can hardwire your firestick instead of depending on a weaker signal from Wifi. They are $15 on Amazon. You may need to buy a longer ethernet cord, but this is prolly thee best thing you can do. Plug it into one of the 4 ethernet ports on the back of your router and the other end into your wifi adapter connected to your stick or if you have an Android box most come with an ethernet port in the back of the unit. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074TC662N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Make sure your internet speed is up. I tell my customers no lower than 50 MPS and that's if you have no gamers in the house. And keep in mind LIVE TV takes more speed than apps like Netflix, Hulu or any movie app you may have downloaded onto your device. Nitro claims you need between 15-25 MPS to run and 45 MPS for 4K content. EVERYTHING in your house connected to your wifi is drawing off your service. The more connected wether running and in use or not, are taking from your streaming. 100 mps is the norm these days. the difference in price between 50 or lower and 1000 MPS [1 gigspeed] is normally no more than $20-40 more a month. If you've canceled your cable because you now know you don't need it any longer with a good IPTV service, take some of that savings and bump up your speed and/or go get yourself a new router. Mesh preferably.

Make sure you're plugged into your wall outlet instead of a power strip. You may think it's not a big deal but I've seen the difference myself on numerous occasions. Also, make sure you're using the power cord and plug that came with your device.

Unplug your router and modem once or twice a month. It's no different than restarting your PC. Everything runs faster and better. I make sure I do mine before any big fight or event coming on tv. Unplug them both if you have separate units. Then plug in your modem and wait till all the light come back on that were showing before you unplugged it. THen plug your router back in and wait till that one fully comes back up.

Then there's still things like where your house sits on your block. If you're on the end of your street, if your isp doesn't have a booster on that cable up at the pole, your service is not going to be as strong as the guy who got his at the pole in his backyard. Had a guy tell me the other day he passed on buying a house in a neighborhood because it was at the end of the block. [Now that's a guy who takes his streaming pretty seriously. You don't have to be that guy] lol.

Sometimes it's just a matter of adjusting a setting in your app too.

I can give you examples of prolly 5 or more other things that factor into why your getting buffering or just not experiencing what you should be experiencing.

95% of the issue you may have because you canceled your cable is on your end and in your setup. Get your hardware and setup correct and watch your other streaming issues go away. I personally rarely get buffering, but again, it's unavoidable on occasion. That's why you're paying so little for so much.

If you're new to streaming and go into it with the right attitude, you're going to enjoy the hell out of this, if you're expecting flawless tv as your cable gave you, you're more than likely not cut out for using an IPTV service anyways. Companies like NetFlix, Hulu, SlingTV, YouTube tv or Playstation Vue you will have fewer headaches but you're also paying much more and getting a lot less. You will get out of it, what you put into it. The more you learn, the better your streaming experience will be. And I know I'm explaining things a lot of you will never run across. I just like to inform and keep my customers up to date as to what you are or may be getting yourself into. Based on what Raiders has explained in his NItro experience, it sounds like very little. He may be a single guy for all I know and has a one device setup. Once you get into installing movie apps and keeping the wife and kids happy, things can get more complicated.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
#36
Double the storage and it comes with an Ethernet port like the 2nd generation boxes had that made them so wanted. But unless your a guy like me testing apps daily, there’s really no need for even the 6 gb they give you to do what you want with. New 4K stick is thee best device in Amazons streaming lineup for its speed alone. They are litterly lightning fast. If your someone like myself who’s constantly using the remote. It’s a blessing. I can put my stick build on a new firestick in damn near half the time of the 2nd gen. sticks and boxes take. Plus you can pair it up to your tv to control your volume, mute and power buttons for your tv. You now only need one remote. Because of its specs, it’s the only Amazon device that Can handle the new Nitrous app that can play 4 streams at once. That’s IF you subscribe to a 4 device plan. Most people have a 2 device plan meaning you can have Nitro playing on 2 devices at a time in your household. Try and connect to 3 with a 2 device plan and it will kick one of them off. Normally the last device trying to connect. The cube or the dongle cannot handle the 4 stream plans. You need a higher end device. You also need enough internet speed to handle 4 streams at once without buffering. A lot going on there.
 
#37
Buffering RARELY has anything to with your device or Nitro TV. Some of the others have intermittent buffering. Recently deceased Vaders a prime example. Nitro owner spends to the limit to make their system run as smooth as possible. With that said a higher end Android box or a 4K firestick will give you a much better experience than the older firesticks most have since before the 4K sticks came out the end of last year. Again, I've seen a few benchmark tests claiming the 4K sticks ranked 4th behind the Nvidia Shield and a couple of other Octocore Android boxes. If you're on the fence and just flat out don't want to use a firestick. Getting an Octocore box I've been told really cuts down on any buffering. I have a Shield and would use it much more often if it wasn't for the damn remote that comes with it. The same issue I have with the Android boxes. Their remotes all suck as Amazon makes the best remote in the business. Flat out. You want to use something comfortable in your hand as its what you will be using most of the time you are surfing or watching. A lot of buffering is just plain unavoidable. Even cable TVs that are hardwired get buffering from time to time. Heres some examples I've learned over the years that cause buffering or a less than stellar performance. Our NItro owner explains to us how when channels get overloaded, he has to do what he calls " load balancing". We may get buffering early in an event but then have clear sailing the rest of the fight or game after he balances the channels. Even HBO experienced this in episode 1 of this last season of the Game of Thrones. People thought it was their IPTV providers fault. It wasn't.

If you're renting a Modem/Router from your ISP and do not have their higher end fiber optic service, go buy yourself a new one. Most will give you a refurbished combo unit and they are all junk. My nephew works for a local ISP company and did installs before going into sales. Those old ones cause 75% of all their service calls. Do your homework or send me a PM here as there are a lot of factors involved in picking one RIGHT for your setup. I've been thru at least 5 tying to figure this out personally. The new Mesh routers are what you want as they will cover all the dead spots in your home. Buy separate units [Modem/router]. But they ain't cheap. For the same obvious reason you don't want a firestick built into your tv, if one malfunctions, you need to replace everything.

Where you place your router is important. You don't want your router in the basement in a closet cause your wife thinks it looks gaudy in your home. The least obstructive path your signal takes, the better. They don't go thru walls well, concrete, drywall, wooden, metal...it will need to going around to reach your tv.

Router placement. Having your router sit too close to your device or tv can be just as bad as your router being placed too far away in another room or floor of the house. If your router is, for instance, positioned right next to, or under your tv, move it if you can 5-10 feet away is what I tell all my customers. And get it up high if you're using other devices in another room. That signal will travel better up there than on the ground.

Download the Speedtest.net app on your phone and stand right next to your tv and run a test. Do that in multiple locations of your home so you know what area gets a decent signal and what doesn't. A decent way to test the speed your paying for as opposed to what you are actually getting. Also, keep in mind, you are only going to get a reading for about 75% of what your paying for while testing thru wifi. So if you pay for 100 MPS and your speedtest result shows around 75 speed. That's about right and you're getting what you're paying for more than likely. If you call and complain, just know that they will have you test your speed hard wired on your PC with everything else unplugged. In other words, they will have you disconnect your router completely and run an ethernet cord from your Modem directly into the back of your desktop or laptop.

Buy a wifi adapter so you can hardwire your firestick instead of depending on a weaker signal from Wifi. They are $15 on Amazon. You may need to buy a longer ethernet cord, but this is prolly thee best thing you can do. Plug it into one of the 4 ethernet ports on the back of your router and the other end into your wifi adapter connected to your stick or if you have an Android box most come with an ethernet port in the back of the unit. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074TC662N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Make sure your internet speed is up. I tell my customers no lower than 50 MPS and that's if you have no gamers in the house. And keep in mind LIVE TV takes more speed than apps like Netflix, Hulu or any movie app you may have downloaded onto your device. Nitro claims you need between 15-25 MPS to run and 45 MPS for 4K content. EVERYTHING in your house connected to your wifi is drawing off your service. The more connected wether running and in use or not, are taking from your streaming. 100 mps is the norm these days. the difference in price between 50 or lower and 1000 MPS [1 gigspeed] is normally no more than $20-40 more a month. If you've canceled your cable because you now know you don't need it any longer with a good IPTV service, take some of that savings and bump up your speed and/or go get yourself a new router. Mesh preferably.

Make sure you're plugged into your wall outlet instead of a power strip. You may think it's not a big deal but I've seen the difference myself on numerous occasions. Also, make sure you're using the power cord and plug that came with your device.

Unplug your router and modem once or twice a month. It's no different than restarting your PC. Everything runs faster and better. I make sure I do mine before any big fight or event coming on tv. Unplug them both if you have separate units. Then plug in your modem and wait till all the light come back on that were showing before you unplugged it. THen plug your router back in and wait till that one fully comes back up.

Then there's still things like where your house sits on your block. If you're on the end of your street, if your isp doesn't have a booster on that cable up at the pole, your service is not going to be as strong as the guy who got his at the pole in his backyard. Had a guy tell me the other day he passed on buying a house in a neighborhood because it was at the end of the block. [Now that's a guy who takes his streaming pretty seriously. You don't have to be that guy] lol.

Sometimes it's just a matter of adjusting a setting in your app too.

I can give you examples of prolly 5 or more other things that factor into why your getting buffering or just not experiencing what you should be experiencing.

95% of the issue you may have because you canceled your cable is on your end and in your setup. Get your hardware and setup correct and watch your other streaming issues go away. I personally rarely get buffering, but again, it's unavoidable on occasion. That's why you're paying so little for so much.

If you're new to streaming and go into it with the right attitude, you're going to enjoy the hell out of this, if you're expecting flawless tv as your cable gave you, you're more than likely not cut out for using an IPTV service anyways. Companies like NetFlix, Hulu, SlingTV, YouTube tv or Playstation Vue you will have fewer headaches but you're also paying much more and getting a lot less. You will get out of it, what you put into it. The more you learn, the better your streaming experience will be. And I know I'm explaining things a lot of you will never run across. I just like to inform and keep my customers up to date as to what you are or may be getting yourself into. Based on what Raiders has explained in his NItro experience, it sounds like very little. He may be a single guy for all I know and has a one device setup. Once you get into installing movie apps and keeping the wife and kids happy, things can get more complicated.



is there an audio version for this post?

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read the comments a couple guys get it right, the 2nd (some will call them third since they went back to easy jailbreak mode) gen boxes are far and away better than anything available today.

But that article still doesnt give spec specifics. it also doesnt mention the older stuff. its basically comparing what is currently available and trying to pick the best one. its like trying to say who the smartest retard is.

But it also doesnt mention any sideloaded or 'illegal' apps it sticks to the legit ones like netflix hulu and amazon. Which you dont need anything for these days as long as you have a 'smart' tv. because those apps are built into most TVs anyway these days.

As for buffering and HBO that was found to be so many people giving each other their password and everyone trying to watch GoT on the same account on who knows how many TV in how many different locations. It happens with every server basically. but if your paying a sub you should never buffer in this day and age. Your literally paying to have access to either a private server or one that monitors traffic and makes sure the numbers accessing dont cause issues.

But as I have said over and over and over and over again there are multiple bottlenecks that can cause buffering. It USED to be easy to blame the feeds/servers. But not if youre paying for them or you can 'test' them on your device(s). You can see whats up. Internet speed is not to blame for most either. All you need is enough. As long as its enough it wont matter. Faster speed doesnt speed up anything. If you have the software you can see that for yourself. People can stream 4K shit on their phones. I bought the Samsung s-10 + and it streams better than most things through fucking public wifi. But it is powerful and the display is small so its easier. Thats why I said smaller TVs have an easier time even on higher resolutions than big TVs will. But like I have also said a dozen times. Processor power and GPU power are the biggest factors. And the best options for that arent going to come in anything other than a PC set up.

After what 5 years of streaming and talking about this people still dont get it. And its totally mainstream now.

But there are of course exceptions you can have internet glitches or slow downs. Always test your speed if you think thats an issue. Unplug the modem and the router every now and then anyway. Also unplug your boxes or sticks every once in awhile also. The older (better) boxes are notorious for that. But once they reset theyre good to go. But even trying to use official Amazon stuff they will have issues after so many hours of streams.

But I have Prime and have had it for quite awhile now and we use it a bit. And I have never ever had a buffering issue with it even with multiple TVs going and watching 4K feeds. Even when I watch shit on the CW app (official one that has commercials) I dont buffer there either. I dont buffer on anything really. Other than Eurosport once in awhile on a full HD live feeds. And even those are few and far between. But the best live stream feeds arent offering Eurosport now for some reason. But the old stand by freebies like Livenet TV, HD streamz (that has best quality but does buffer and hang a bit on Eurosport especially), RedBox, TV Tap are good. Exousia has a great feed but it also has hang ups after a short amount of time and you have to keep reloading it,. Most of you wont have that issue since you arent going to be watching Eurosport but live bike racing is about the only thing I watch live so its the best (only) option for that. Other than Amgen and Tour De France which NBCSports has but I dont like their commentators.
 
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