So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

#41
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

So where do you draw the line on this? If you see you are going to get killed on a game, you can just say "Well Pinny had such and such number and we had a bad line so all wagers are cancelled."
 
#42
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

MR DAMAGE


That High Juice/Vig don't matter much when you pick Winners Baby


Wow you guys say the high juice does not matter. You guys must have total idiots for customers. Anyone that would put money in a C rated book and pay this loan shark juice when you can bet at an A rated book with low to no juice like Matchbook I find just amazing. Anyone that does not have a well funded Matchbook account should not be gambling in the first place. I don't want to hear about the funding problems. If you want to deposit over $3000 US funds just wire it and you will get it there in about 5 days in your account. Some think I am an agent for this book. What is wrong with you RUBES I am not an agent but a very happy gambler at a great book that keeps getting better each year. I bet at a local that deals Pinnacle lines and Matchbook. That is all I need. I am not a large player outside football $200- $500 a game. I could not imagine paying the juice you guys do at these books you gamble at.
 
#43
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Because you guys were slower to move the line then other books, does not make it a bad line....
GREAT ? SHAVEN

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

we didn't even have line Yesterday

what makes it a Bad Line is LINES MGR screams to where I even Heard him

DENVER MINUS 365, Girl Type in 265 = BAD LINE

review our site/lines, we RAN IT 365, NOT 265 end--story

RUCA, $100---FREE PLAY IF U CHOOSE
 
#45
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

BFC used to come on here and brag about how they had the best lines on games and that's why you should play there.

lame move by BFC. D- book.
 
#46
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Ruca! I will transfer 100$ to you anywhere if you never play at BFC again.


Assuming clown still doesn't honor the wager..
 
#48
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

yeah Roach. I remember all the UNIQUE line shit and the we make our own line garbage.

Hopefully some of you are telling SBR so they can adjust accordingly.
 
#49
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Its no biggie i just bet it all on the nuggs -2nd half :+textinb3

I dont think they take foot off the gas considering how they were treated in Dallas.
 
#50
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

MR DAMAGE


That High Juice/Vig don't matter much when you pick Winners Baby


Wow you guys say the high juice does not matter. You guys must have total idiots for customers. Anyone that would put money in a C rated book and pay this loan shark juice when you can bet at an A rated book with low to no juice like Matchbook I find just amazing. Anyone that does not have a well funded Matchbook account should not be gambling in the first place. I don't want to hear about the funding problems. If you want to deposit over $3000 US funds just wire it and you will get it there in about 5 days in your account. Some think I am an agent for this book. What is wrong with you RUBES I am not an agent but a very happy gambler at a great book that keeps getting better each year. I bet at a local that deals Pinnacle lines and Matchbook. That is all I need. I am not a large player outside football $200- $500 a game. I could not imagine paying the juice you guys do at these books you gamble at.

CANNON

I'm the first to agree both the place you work / MATCHBOOK

as well as Pinny are BOTH Incredible SHops, you have never heard me say anything Different . . . . . That Said RUCA and one other Client are the Only People on PLANET that have had any--type "ISSUES" with B-F-C I think we are Doing an Amazing Job & if anyone has an ACCT here feel free to Let out the GOOD, BAD, & THE UGLY

The article above is from a place we have NOT given 1---Penny to

in my mind, That says it ALL

not 1--cent to the above Poster & look at the Article yourself
 
#51
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Its no biggie i just bet it all on the nuggs -2nd half :+textinb3

I dont think they take foot off the gas considering how they were treated in Dallas.

Bad, should have take the $$ out and tought clown mickey mousse a bookie lesson.
 
#53
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I think Mike from BFC is one of the best shop owners around. Always makes himself available to chat, and is usually fair in everything he does. Hows that Mike?
 
#54
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

What is you maximum bet on half lines BFC?

$10,000.00


But you have to realize they could risk $36,500 to win 10-K


RUCA, I'll even Move your funds MYSELF to MATCHBOOK (where cannon Works) OR to Pinnacle if you would Like ..........

Obviously they won't CREDIT you the 20%, but I simply want you HAPPY

so, if need be let me know & we can Move to PINNY OR MATCH tommorrow RUCA ...........
 
#55
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Sportsbook Review has you at a D rating still.

You guys should have changed the name. Your stinky past is very scary.



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#56
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

bfc - giving him a free $100 play is a joke. it's worth what, $48? lol. bush league book. awful.
 
#57
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

Its no biggie i just bet it all on the nuggs -2nd half :+textinb3

I dont think they take foot off the gas considering how they were treated in Dallas.

GREAT ATTITUDE RUCA

another 1 hr 25 min you'll have your money back ++++ SOME

I'm very serious if you want your funds Moved to MATCHBOOK or PINNY, just let me know . . . . . you played here BEFORE & I think you know we don't * * * * * our clients, IF DENVER loses No one is on here right now Bitching . . . .
 
#58
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

$10,000.00


But you have to realize they could risk $36,500 to win 10-K


RUCA, I'll even Move your funds MYSELF to MATCHBOOK (where cannon Works) OR to Pinnacle if you would Like ..........

Obviously they won't CREDIT you the 20%, but I simply want you HAPPY

so, if need be let me know & we can Move to PINNY OR MATCH tommorrow RUCA ...........
I already bet it all for the 2nd half. Kenyon Martins taking 3 pointers. :shoot:

Didnt mean for it to become such a bashing party.
 
#59
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

bfc - giving him a free $100 play is a joke. it's worth what, $48? lol. bush league book. awful.

ID

did anyone ask for your opinion, we don't have to offer him 1--cent

There are few Books that would be upset that this many People BET EVERY PENNY in their accts on a 1st--HF Moneyline that NO-WAY they make the wager @ -335 -340 -365 -385 -390

Bottom Line, I'm worried ABOUT Ruca & Ruca only is why I offered to move his Balance to PINNY OR MATCHBOOK . . . . . .
 
#61
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

CANNON

I'm the first to agree both the place you work / MATCHBOOK

as well as Pinny are BOTH Incredible SHops, you have never heard me say anything Different . . . . . That Said RUCA and one other Client are the Only People on PLANET that have had any--type "ISSUES" with B-F-C I think we are Doing an Amazing Job & if anyone has an ACCT here feel free to Let out the GOOD, BAD, & THE UGLY

The article above is from a place we have NOT given 1---Penny to

in my mind, That says it ALL

not 1--cent to the above Poster & look at the Article yourself
I tested BFC a couple times last winter. I did it for the promos they offered here.

PROS- When I won they paid same day.

CONS- (1) Juice was terrible compared to other books
(2) It was an absolute nightmare each time I deposited with getting my account credited with the promo you offered here. You can check my acct with the back and forth I had to have with Mike, Judge, etc.. That is why I never sent money in again.
 
#62
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

$10,000.00


But you have to realize they could risk $36,500 to win 10-K


RUCA, I'll even Move your funds MYSELF to MATCHBOOK (where cannon Works) OR to Pinnacle if you would Like ..........

Obviously they won't CREDIT you the 20%, but I simply want you HAPPY

so, if need be let me know & we can Move to PINNY OR MATCH tommorrow RUCA ...........

Are you the guy in charge???

Just wondering since you ignored all my posts. If someone else shows up tommorrow to repair the damage here, I will deposit 500 and 2000 if you are fired.
 
#63
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

My thoughts on this:

1 - A line different by 100 cents in this case from what other books have is a bad line. End of story. It doesn't matter if the book was too slow to move it all day or it got typed in wrong. With the kind of money coming in on it, this is especially a clear sign of it being a bad line.

2 - The wagers were cancelled long before the game started. It's not like it was right at the tip.

3 - You guys can all complain about it and I know Mike will try to throw some extra treatment and courtesy your way because that is how he does things, but none of you had any business betting into that line and you know it.

I do not feel any forum owner, moderator, or dispute resolver would possibly side with the players in this case. You all took your shot, you got caught, and that's that. Good night.

:smoking2:
 
#65
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I already bet it all for the 2nd half. Kenyon Martins taking 3 pointers. :shoot:

Didnt mean for it to become such a bashing party.
NO--WORRY'S RUCA

I use to get so upset over shit like this & almost get ILL

I've come to realize that People LOVE Drama AND you can't please 100% ........Bottom line is we are Growing & People that Play here Love us, you played here BEFORE, feel free to share your Honest opinions of the Lines, Quickness to grade, Clerks, Supervisors, etc etc etc

did I mention we do Party @ PLAYBOY Mansion in JUNE . . . . .

anyway, LOL

RUCA, if you need funds Moved after Tonight, Don't Hesitate to contact Me & they'll go to Book of your choice Sir . . . . .



NOW,. It's time have Lil "Sit--down" with the Girl that TYPED 265 when People 19 miles away hear the MAN say - 365
 
#66
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

My thoughts on this:

1 - A line different by 100 cents in this case from what other books have is a bad line. End of story. It doesn't matter if the book was too slow to move it all day or it got typed in wrong. With the kind of money coming in on it, this is especially a clear sign of it being a bad line.

2 - The wagers were cancelled long before the game started. It's not like it was right at the tip.

3 - You guys can all complain about it and I know Mike will try to throw some extra treatment and courtesy your way because that is how he does things, but none of you had any business betting into that line and you know it.

I do not feel any forum owner, moderator, or dispute resolver would possible side with the players in this case. You all took your shot, you got caught, and that's that. Good night.

:smoking2:
At what point do you draw the line though? 25, 50, 75 cents...when is it a bad line?
 
#67
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

My thoughts on this:

1 - A line different by 100 cents in this case from what other books have is a bad line. End of story. It doesn't matter if the book was too slow to move it all day or it got typed in wrong. With the kind of money coming in on it, this is especially a clear sign of it being a bad line.

2 - The wagers were cancelled long before the game started. It's not like it was right at the tip.

3 - You guys can all complain about it and I know Mike will try to throw some extra treatment and courtesy your way because that is how he does things, but none of you had any business betting into that line and you know it.

I do not feel any forum owner, moderator, or dispute resolver would possibly side with the players in this case. You all took your shot, you got caught, and that's that. Good night.

:smoking2:

I saw 280 most of the day 350 near tip. I ain't lying
 
#68
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

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#69
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

My thoughts on this:

1 - A line different by 100 cents in this case from what other books have is a bad line. End of story. It doesn't matter if the book was too slow to move it all day or it got typed in wrong. With the kind of money coming in on it, this is especially a clear sign of it being a bad line.

2 - The wagers were cancelled long before the game started. It's not like it was right at the tip.

3 - You guys can all complain about it and I know Mike will try to throw some extra treatment and courtesy your way because that is how he does things, but none of you had any business betting into that line and you know it.

I do not feel any forum owner, moderator, or dispute resolver would possibly side with the players in this case. You all took your shot, you got caught, and that's that. Good night.

:smoking2:


RELOAD< you are 100% correct

but, as former Player it does get upsetting when Books Make Errors

That said, he is 100% correct, When I show wagers -365 NO-WAY in Hell I can Honor -265

what's even Better is ID, & Others are Upset & Ruca really is not upset ..........

Good Night ALL & sorry for the LINE--ERROR 2348ji23e
 
#70
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

as of 3-16-2009 you were still a D rated book. Where does SBR rate you a C book?
 
#71
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

At what point do you draw the line though? 25, 50, 75 cents...when is it a bad line?
It depends on how high the odds are to begin with. If something is -5000 somewhere and -5100 somewhere else then that's not different enough. But -265 vs -365 is more than enough to be an obviously bad line.
 
#72
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

RELOAD< you are 100% correct

but, as former Player it does get upsetting when Books Make Errors

That said, he is 100% correct, When I show wagers -365 NO-WAY in Hell I can Honor -265

what's even Better is ID, & Others are Upset & Ruca really is not upset ..........

Good Night ALL & sorry for the LINE--ERROR 2348ji23e
If its that simple what did you go to as the line moved all day -480?? I got -650 for the game at 9pm est when it was -500 at noon.
 
#74
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

I took the Nuggets -265 for the half for $1,200. I just logged in and the bets were canceled because they say the line was off.

Piece of shit books. I have them -285 through another out or I would be pulling for Dallas here big time here.

I highly recommenced not playing at BFC. 2938u4ji23
Ruca posts this as a thread. Just about all of here see this as wrong so we are sticking up for him. We aren't upset, as it doesn't effect us. But it does effect where we choose to send our deposits...
 
#76
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

EXCUSE ME CANNON, you * * * * * * Moron

why don't you go to www.sportsbookadvisors.com YOURSELF & review the 2 latest Articles, & NOTICE at the top we are NOT even a Sponsor there . . . . .

People Know Im NOT smart enough to do some False Copy/Paster JOB

so take a look for Yourself www.sportsbookadvisor.com




OF course, after, I'll be hear awaiting an apology if you are MAN enough to admit when you are 100%---Incorrect Cannon
 
#77
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

It depends on how high the odds are to begin with. If something is -5000 somewhere and -5100 somewhere else then that's not different enough. But -265 vs -365 is more than enough to be an obviously bad line.

So, 60 cents less then PInny was a BAD line.. But they wanted to make it 40 cents MORE then Pinny.... They call it a bad line because they were lower then every other book when in reality they wanted to be HIGHER then every other book.... Shitty...
 
#78
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

BFC, here is my problem with your explanation.


First of all, I dont think that it was 46 players, MAYBE 4-6 players!


Secondly, you state that you might not have noticed a problem had he not bet ALL that was in his account and the same elsewhere. But you blame him for not calling and asking about the line??????

You state that you ONLY noticed the bad line when everyone was betting Denver. Out of those 4-6 clients, NOT ONE OF THEM called you and asked about the line!!! Not 1!!!!!!!


So all of those clients were taking shots? OR did they just bet the best line which was ONLY off by 20 cents or so.



BFC you have definitely blown it here at this forum. I would just stop while you are SLIGHTLY ahead with a few posters. The more you talk here, the worse that it is going to get.

So 60 cents less than pinny is a bad line, but your line of 40 cents higher than pinny should have been ruled a bad line as well
 
#79
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

we can't let this thread die. not fair of a book to do this. bfc credit his account!

ID

you can TYPE all night long NONE of the accts will be Credited and NONE other than RUCA willl recive 1--cent

as matter fact, very close to closing the Ones that Bet Over $3000 AND sending them there CASH @ 9 a.m. in Morning

RELOAD stated in Perfectly, They TOOK shot & didn't payoff


There are Few Books that will wait & see results Prior to Deleting, we did NOT do that ...........
 
#80
Re: So I deposited a little money over at BFC today.

ID

you can TYPE all night long NONE of the accts will be Credited and NONE other than RUCA willl recive 1--cent

as matter fact, very close to closing the Ones that Bet Over $3000 AND sending them there CASH @ 9 a.m. in Morning

RELOAD stated in Perfectly, They TOOK shot & didn't payoff


There are Few Books that will wait & see results Prior to Deleting, we did NOT do that ...........

You close them And I;ll give them 10% to go elsewhere unless go grow up

I may even bet will you to put you out.. GL But you would not pay if I took you out.
 
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