So rumor has it...

jimmythegreek

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That an MLB work stoppage will be almost certain by December 2nd.

I'm licking my chops and will lmao if the wind up is a return to the pandemic days of a 60 game season.I know it's early, but getting my popcorn ready.
 
That an MLB work stoppage will be almost certain by December 2nd.

I'm licking my chops and will lmao if the wind up is a return to the pandemic days of a 60 game season.I know it's early, but getting my popcorn ready.
What a joke that would be. I don't believe it will happen, just both sides negotiating the best deal they can get and really who cares about it the stoppage is in December? No way do the players give up their current conditions with the threat of getting a cap or some other very painful changes instituted. They and the owners are raking it in now.
 

jimmythegreek

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What a joke that would be. I don't believe it will happen, just both sides negotiating the best deal they can get and really who cares about it the stoppage is in December? No way do the players give up their current conditions with the threat of getting a cap or some other very painful changes instituted. They and the owners are raking it in now.
How many opportunities in '20 did both sides get to generate a deal? That resulted in salvaging 37% of the season thrown in with a whole bunch of integrity killing rules looking to shorten games, granted during a pandemic. Let's see if there were lessons learned with all of the time wasted.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Good time to shorten the 162-game season.

Everyone complains about 4-hour games but what about a regular season that stretches over six months?

Not sure the right number of games, but 162 games no longer works.

Preserving the record book isn't a persuasive argument to keep the current schedule because nobody follows traditional stats like BATTING AVERAGE, RBIs, WON-LOSS RECORD for pitchers, etc.).

The Steroid Era ruined numbers like Babe's 714, Hank's 755 and Roger's 61.

Additionally, the postseason record book was bastardized when baseball went to the expanded playoff format in the mid-1990's.

Yankee players like Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada and Bernie Williams raced up the all-time leaderboards because they participated in so many more playoff games than everyone else.

MLB desperately needs some creative regular-season scheduling.
 
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Good time to shorten the 162-game season.

Everyone complains about 4-hour games but what about a regular season that stretches over six months?

Not sure the right number of games, but 162 games no longer works.

Preserving the record book isn't a persuasive argument to keep the current schedule because nobody follows the traditional stats like BATTING AVERAGE, RBIs, WON-LOSS RECORD for pitchers, etc.).

The Steroid Era ruined numbers like Babe's 714, Hank's 755 and Roger's 61.

Additionally, the postseason record book was bastardized when baseball went to the expanded playoff format in the mid-1990's.

Yankee players like Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada and Bernie Williams raced up the all-time leaderboards because they participated in so many more playoff games than anyone else.

MLB desperately needs some creative regular-season scheduling.

Yes x1000. Only problem is the players union won't accept fewer players in the majors and that's the first thing you can do if you shorten the schedule. Wish they were like hockey, you get about 2-3 backups who don't dress for the game so on most nights the backup goalie is the only roster guy who doesn't play. MLB could go to 12 position players and say 3 starters and 3 bullpen guys for a total of 18-man roster if they played 3 or 4 games a week instead of 6 or 7.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Good point, Bill.

It's hard to accept, but MLB must adopt a "less is more" philosophy.

Does the American League and National League matter anymore with so much interleague play?

Why not schedule games which attract people to the ballparks and eyeballs to the television sets or mobile platforms?

More Mets-Yankees, Cubs-White Sox and Angels-Dodgers.

And maybe a midseason, single-elimination tournament in which the winner automatically qualifies for an expanded playoff format.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
well they could go down to 154 games.. Bring in more playoffs. Fewer games is less in the pay check for players. Don't make the ball so hard raise the walls too where u can, and put the mound back so more hits
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
I'm okay with more playoff games.

Looks like MLB soon will expand to a 14-team playoff.

How about some sort of season-long tournament within the regularly-scheduled games where teams will compete for an automatic spot in the postseason?

Maybe it's the first or last game of every series that is counted toward the special playoff spot?
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
I must admit the suicide games to start the MLB postseason make for good television.

That's one way to guarantee drama at the start of the playoff season.

The NBA uses a similar format with the lower-seeded teams featuring 7 versus 10 and 8 versus 9.

It's a Game 7 atmosphere to start the postseason.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
houston and fins agree watson to miami but legal issues must be resolved .... best news for fins... i knew 2ha was a bust. miami reading my twitter
 

kane

EOG master
Wilson and Fields both look like busts, but way too early to make any determination on them, way too early
 

kane

EOG master
Tua's QB rating is 95.1, that ranks him ahead of Mac Jones, Jimmy G, Jalen Hurts, Ryan Tannehill, Ben, Daniel Jones, Jared Goff, Trevor Lawrence
Not saying he's got it all figured out yet, and he's thrown some bad interceptions, but he's still young and operating behind a shit O line
I think Miami would be making a mistake if they give up on him this soon
 

kane

EOG master
then why get watson
They haven't completed the trade yet, and if they do I think it's a mistake, Chris Grier is in the hot seat, he needs to win now, Watson at QB gives them a better chance to win now, but I still think Tua will be a good QB, he's only started 13 games in his career, how about we give the kid a little time to develop
 

MrTop

EOG Master
They haven't completed the trade yet, and if they do I think it's a mistake, Chris Grier is in the hot seat, he needs to win now, Watson at QB gives them a better chance to win now, but I still think Tua will be a good QB, he's only started 13 games in his career, how about we give the kid a little time to develop



ok i will give him to the end of the year.. I can't sleep at night with him starting for MIa
 

Almost Allright

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ok i will give him to the end of the year.. I can't sleep at night with him starting for MIa
Why not? It’s not like the Fins are going anywhere. Still have a shitload of picks coming up. It’s not like Tua is surrounded with talent and coming up short. That being said my hunch, feel, vibe is that in the end Tua won’t be the answer. But right now? So what.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Wilson and Fields both look like busts, but way too early to make any determination on them, way too early


Wilson would overthrow Wilt Chamberlain

Tony Romo had diarrhea of the mouth early on Wilson.

Right now they're better with White or Flacco.
 

kane

EOG master
Heim, let me ask you something. There are 4 rookie QB's, Wilson, Fields, Lawrence, and Jones, so far only one of them looks like an NFL QB, but only one of them has the advantage of playing for an elite franchise with the GOAT of coaches, while the other three are playing for terrible franchises who have no clue what the fuck they're doing. I don't know the answer to this, but what if one of those other three were drafted by the Pats and Jones was stuck in Jax, do you think the results would be the same? I still don't know if Mac Jones is good because he's been put in a situation to have success, whereas Wilson, Fields, and Lawrence haven't. I honestly don't know how any of these young guys would be doing if they were in a different spot than they are, but I think it's fair to ask.
 
Heim, let me ask you something. There are 4 rookie QB's, Wilson, Fields, Lawrence, and Jones, so far only one of them looks like an NFL QB, but only one of them has the advantage of playing for an elite franchise with the GOAT of coaches, while the other three are playing for terrible franchises who have no clue what the fuck they're doing. I don't know the answer to this, but what if one of those other three were drafted by the Pats and Jones was stuck in Jax, do you think the results would be the same? I still don't know if Mac Jones is good because he's been put in a situation to have success, whereas Wilson, Fields, and Lawrence haven't. I honestly don't know how any of these young guys would be doing if they were in a different spot than they are, but I think it's fair to ask.
Lawrence still looks good to me, just has a shitshow around him. Not sure if Wilson or Fields ever turns into much, but both would be a lot better in NE for sure. Jones isn't really that impressive in what I've seen.

QB is just a position teams reach for. Coaches and organizations bring this onto themselves. Yeah it's an important position but it's not the only position.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Heim, let me ask you something. There are 4 rookie QB's, Wilson, Fields, Lawrence, and Jones, so far only one of them looks like an NFL QB, but only one of them has the advantage of playing for an elite franchise with the GOAT of coaches, while the other three are playing for terrible franchises who have no clue what the fuck they're doing. I don't know the answer to this, but what if one of those other three were drafted by the Pats and Jones was stuck in Jax, do you think the results would be the same? I still don't know if Mac Jones is good because he's been put in a situation to have success, whereas Wilson, Fields, and Lawrence haven't. I honestly don't know how any of these young guys would be doing if they were in a different spot than they are, but I think it's fair to ask.


It depends. Look at Russell Wilson's rookie year.

11-5, playoff appearance. Huge stat year. 4 years of futility before that.

Either you have it or you don't.

This rookie class obviously won't live up to the hype.

Jones is a good game manager, let's leave it at that.
 
It depends. Look at Russell Wilson's rookie year.

11-5, playoff appearance. Huge stat year. 4 years of futility before that.

Either you have it or you don't.

This rookie class obviously won't live up to the hype.

Jones is a good game manager, let's leave it at that.

How do you explain Josh Allen? I think the Russ numbers were explained more by experience in college and maturity. Unique situation where a guy already had a taste of professional life and was humbled by it, he knew only way to succeed in his second act was to work hard and focus on what he could control. These QBs coming into bad teams need to be able to tune all that noise that comes at them out and just keep grinding through the process. I still don't see Darnold evolving and growing as an example, he's still trying to play the game that came easier to him before at USC and his coaches aren't helping him progress. The Bills let Allen take his lumps, worked the offense and personnel in a way that made him a better player and now you see his numbers looking a lot better. Still has a ways to go, but those are a tale of two QBs where you would have thought Darnold would be where Allen is today and Allen could have been the total bust that Darnold looks like he'll be.
 
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