Thoughts from an Eagle fan....

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
What the hell happened in the fourth quarter?

Hurts gets replaced with the Eagles trailing by three and the fate of the NY Giants in the palm of your hand...As a fan you expect your hometown team to be aggressive and try to win a game...You just don’t replace your healthy first string QB with some third stringer who hasn’t taken a snap all year...it was not fair to your teammates or the Giants...would love to hear the Eagle coach explain what happened....

By the way, if the Cowboys would have beaten the Giants, then MAYBE I would have accepted what happened....hahahaha, I told you I was an Eagle fan....
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
That was bad for the NFL and competitive football.

It was hard to watch and then listen to Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth talk about the situation.

Maybe the NFL should consider giving up Sunday Night Football in Week 17.

After all, the league dumped Monday Night Football in Week 17 beginning in 2002.
 

kane

EOG master
First Pederson goes for it on fourth and goal from the four instead of tying it, then he brings in a guy off the fucking street to be his QB in the fourth quarter, made zero sense, why not see if Hurts could have led the team to a win, he's looking like your QB going forward. let's see what he's got
 
I told you guys the Eagles were in 2021 preseason mode. He did exactly as I would have expected. No doubt Bird nation is not going to be pleased, you never give a rival the division like that
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
First Pederson goes for it on fourth and goal from the four instead of tying it, then he brings in a guy off the fucking street to be his QB in the fourth quarter, made zero sense, why not see if Hurts could have led the team to a win, he's looking like your QB going forward. let's see what he's got

If the Eagles were still in the race, you would have seen the field goal....and not for nothing but Hurts had an open receiver on that fourth down call....
 

kane

EOG master
If the Eagles were still in the race, you would have seen the field goal....and not for nothing but Hurts had an open receiver on that fourth down call....

Open receiver or not, on the four yard line tie the game, but okay he was aggressive and it didn't work, there's no reason why he brought someone off the street to QB the fourth quarter, that kid has no business being on a football field, it's as if Pederson gave up and wanted to lose, why wouldn't you want to see what Hurts could do in that spot? But hey, a loss gives them a higher draft pick, so why not lay down in the fourth quarter
 
Is Blake Bortles still in the NFL? YES is the answer

I'd like to think you are right but as long as a P.O.S. like BB can find his way on a roster....................

He's kinda still in the league but not really. All these teams just signing him praying he never sees the field.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
One more thing

I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO HAD WTF -6.5 CRYING ABOUT A "BAD BEAT"

If you are a DUMB ASS and take a bad line - you got exactly what you deserved. WTF was -6 all the way up until about 8:30A (CA Time) today. if you chose to take -6.5 when you easily coulda (and shoulda) gotten -6, or less - STFU!

These are no doubt the same morons who had Seattle -6.5 over the Eagles on the MNF game that Seattle won 23-17...when there were plenty of -5.5/6 way before that
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
He's kinda still in the league but not really. All these teams just signing him praying he never sees the field.

Right - but at least he is in the league and could find his way on to a field. As a Broncos' fan he is far better than whoever that was we threw out there against the Saints
 
Right - but at least he is in the league and could find his way on to a field. As a Broncos' fan he is far better than whoever that was we threw out there against the Saints

Yeah what a joke the NFL was for saying he couldn't play that game. Supposedly he was over 10 feet away and wasn't even in the meeting the entire time but no matter the NFL wanted to send a message. In honesty yeah BB would have been better than Hinton, but not by much. That game was a loss almost any way they played it.
 

richsox24

EOG Master
The nfl should come down on philly for throwing the game. There's no possible way pederson thought suddfield was their qb of the future. They clearly threw the game to get a better draft pick and with legal sports betting expanding nationwide, this is a horrible look on the league.

Happened in baseball with the shoeless joe scandal and they were banned from baseball for life.

At a minimum if I were goodell, I'd take away the #6 pick in the upcoming draft from the eagles and give it to the giants.
 
The nfl should come down on philly for throwing the game. There's no possible way pederson thought suddfield was their qb of the future. They clearly threw the game to get a better draft pick and with legal sports betting expanding nationwide, this is a horrible look on the league.

Happened in baseball with the shoeless joe scandal and they were banned from baseball for life.

At a minimum if I were goodell, I'd take away the #6 pick in the upcoming draft from the eagles and give it to the giants.

I think they should fine them, but you can't take away the #6 when a lot of teams didn't exactly play their best this week.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Having said all this................

..........when you only win 6 of 16 games...................you have no one but yourself to blame for not making the playoffs.
 

pro analyser

EOG Dedicated
Open receiver or not, on the four yard line tie the game, but okay he was aggressive and it didn't work, there's no reason why he brought someone off the street to QB the fourth quarter, that kid has no business being on a football field, it's as if Pederson gave up and wanted to lose, why wouldn't you want to see what Hurts could do in that spot? But hey, a loss gives them a higher draft pick, so why not lay down in the fourth quarter
There will be a lot of disagreement on this one, but that actually wasn't a *terrible* decision by Pederson to go for it.
The difference between going for and kicking a field goal was about 2% in favor of going for it.

Creators of the NFL's first simulation model. We work with teams, media, fans, and bettors. (
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jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
You could tell what was going on looking at the mockish smile and disbelief Hurts had on his face from the sidelines. I bought Washington down to 6 small, but felt horribly for over 43 players. I know the guy was 7/20 with 2 picks, but he also got you your 2 tds and Wineyswworth said it best. I mean other than the draft pick situation wouldn't you want to see your future potential star go out there and prepare for easily winnable situations going forward where he can gain some valuable experience? You could always attempt to trade up in the off-season, especially in an outside top 5 positioning, but parity apparently always wins out over integrity, just like money.
 

railbird

EOG Master
You could tell what was going on looking at the mockish smile and disbelief Hurts had on his face from the sidelines. I bought Washington down to 6 small, but felt horribly for over 43 players. I know the guy was 7/20 with 2 picks, but he also got you your 2 tds and Wineyswworth said it best. I mean other than the draft pick situation wouldn't you want to see your future potential star go out there and prepare for easily winnable situations going forward where he can gain some valuable experience? You could always attempt to trade up in the off-season, especially in an outside top 5 positioning, but parity apparently always wins out over integrity, just like money.
its an old basketball trick, if hurts does well and wins game in 4th qtr it puts pressure on coach to start him next yr. and he would want a raise, he found out sudfeld isnt the guy. They are not in it to kiss the Giants ass
 

railbird

EOG Master
There will be a lot of disagreement on this one, but that actually wasn't a *terrible* decision by Pederson to go for it.
The difference between going for and kicking a field goal was about 2% in favor of going for it.

Creators of the NFL's first simulation model. We work with teams, media, fans, and bettors. (
EDJ SPORTS
did they consider that Hurts has the WORST accuracy of any nfl starter this year? and that the ball was wet and it was rainy and swirly winds. NO THEY DONT. situational football would be kick the fg
 

IWishIWasAPro

EOG Master
With the loss, the Eagles improved their 2021 NFL Draft position from ninth to sixth.

You would think sticking it to the Giants would be higher on the list of things to accomplish than moving up 3 spots. I'm not perplexed by the move but at the timing. Very surreal. Almost like there was some behind the scenes agreement of some sort.
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Logistically I know this idea is impossible but I wish they’d start all Week 17 games at the exact same time. for play off jockeying and definitely for draft positioning.
 

fifty cint

EOG Dedicated
You don't do that in 4th quarter of a close game.Do it in second quarter.Books got clobbered so alls not bad I guess.
 

ouch

EOG Dedicated
In the long run, it actually works out better for the Giants.

First, they don't get humiliated by Tom Brady in a playoff game this weekend.

Second, they now have the 11th pick in the upcoming draft. Had they made the playoffs, they would have had the 19th pick at best.

Maybe with the higher pick, they can actually become an 8-8 team next year.
 

fifty cint

EOG Dedicated
Viewing the Eagles fine drafting the last few years they need a whole lot more help than this. LOL if they think picking a few extra spots will help these slugs
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Logistically I know this idea is impossible but I wish they’d start all Week 17 games at the exact same time. for play off jockeying and definitely for draft positioning.

I have been saying that for yearrrrrrrrrrrrrs

Do like all Foreign soccer leagues do - start all games at the same time. What incredible drama takes place when something like a title or relegation is TBD on the final day.

Like you, I understand why it can't be done but it should. The networks would hate it but the sportsbooks would hate it even more. Having games staggered throughout the day allows people to press winnings or try and get back what they lost

If you are not gonna play games at the same time at least play all games at the same time involving teams fighting for the same thing.
 
I have been saying that for yearrrrrrrrrrrrrs

Do like all Foreign soccer leagues do - start all games at the same time. What incredible drama takes place when something like a title or relegation is TBD on the final day.

Like you, I understand why it can't be done but it should. The networks would hate it but the sportsbooks would hate it even more. Having games staggered throughout the day allows people to press winnings or try and get back what they lost

If you are not gonna play games at the same time at least play all games at the same time involving teams fighting for the same thing.

They did that mostly except for SNF. The money is just too good, same reason why we have a 17th game next year.
 
The stupidity of all this is that people are enraged over what the Eagles did with one player for less than half the game. Where's all the rage from Dolphins fans that the Steelers didn't start everyone and very well might have beaten the Browns?
 

kane

EOG master
The stupidity of all this is that people are enraged over what the Eagles did with one player for less than half the game. Where's all the rage from Dolphins fans that the Steelers didn't start everyone and very well might have beaten the Browns?

Big difference, the Steelers needed to do what's best for them heading into the playoffs, and that's being as healthy as possible, they can't worry about doing right by Miami. The Eagles however knew that was their last game, if a guy gets hurt he has 8 months to recover, allowing that guy to QB the fourth quarter of a competitive game was flat out laying down. I had no problem with the Steelers resting Ben, and I'm a Dolphin fan
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Big difference, the Steelers needed to do what's best for them heading into the playoffs, and that's being as healthy as possible, they can't worry about doing right by Miami. The Eagles however knew that was their last game, if a guy gets hurt he has 8 months to recover, allowing that guy to QB the fourth quarter of a competitive game was flat out laying down. I had no problem with the Steelers resting Ben, and I'm a Dolphin fan

We agree on the Steelers. They have a game next week and they really have not had a BYE all season long.

As for the Giants outrage: WIN MORE THAN 6 GAMES! I cannot muster any sympathy for a team that won as many games as the 49ers. Who finished DFL in NFCW. If you lose 10 games bitching about not making the playoffs is the LAST thing I wanna hear from anyone. The Giants LOST as many games as Miami WON! Miami has a right to bitch. The Giants - STFU!
 
Big difference, the Steelers needed to do what's best for them heading into the playoffs, and that's being as healthy as possible, they can't worry about doing right by Miami. The Eagles however knew that was their last game, if a guy gets hurt he has 8 months to recover, allowing that guy to QB the fourth quarter of a competitive game was flat out laying down. I had no problem with the Steelers resting Ben, and I'm a Dolphin fan
So the Steelers can do what's best for them going forward but the Eagles can't?
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
I have been saying that for yearrrrrrrrrrrrrs

Do like all Foreign soccer leagues do - start all games at the same time. What incredible drama takes place when something like a title or relegation is TBD on the final day.

Like you, I understand why it can't be done but it should. The networks would hate it but the sportsbooks would hate it even more. Having games staggered throughout the day allows people to press winnings or try and get back what they lost

If you are not gonna play games at the same time at least play all games at the same time involving teams fighting for the same thing.
If MLB could do it, why couldn't the NFL? Red zone would need to make a second channel, or Scott Hanson might be pulling his hair out.
 
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