USA Numbers Recovered?
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FWIW, tracked as an estimated value by the worldometers data repeated by the RJ:
NEVADA
3,321 CONFIRMED CASES
138 DEATHS
1,531 ESTIMATED RECOVERIES
UNITED STATES
675,640 CONFIRMED CASES
34,522 DEATHS
57,271 ESTIMATED RECOVERIES
WORLDWIDE
2,178,149 CONFIRMED CASES
145,329 DEATHS
546,743 ESTIMATED RECOVERIES
US, world source: worldometers.info
https://www.reviewjournal.com/tag/c...coronavirus&utm_source=lvrj&utm_medium=banner
Since they've started changing their counting protocols on the fly this past week, I am even less sanguine about the numbers in all respects. And I've heard anecdotal accounts, from people I know, not random anonymous posters on social media (uh, like me now), of fatalities where it was highly questionable whether COVID-19 was a substantial factor in the fatality but were counted as such for the stats. So, folks can believe as they wish, but I've become more skeptical of late.
On the flip side of that, I've also seen articles referencing recovered individuals then coming down again with the virus.
We're all just seeing purported information on computer screens in one form or another (such as in phones), so I tend to not suspend disbelief as to any of it, one way or the other. They can make it look on the internet like I took out Kennedy from behind the fence on the grassy knoll on that day in Dallas. I was like five years old in Columbus, Georgia, at my grandparents' house that day (I remember it very well). But most of the people that could confirm that have passed on now, which of course is a central facet of any JFK assassination conspiracy theory, that all the witnesses have mysteriously passed away in, uh, the ensuing fifty plus years.
NEVADA
3,321 CONFIRMED CASES
138 DEATHS
1,531 ESTIMATED RECOVERIES
UNITED STATES
675,640 CONFIRMED CASES
34,522 DEATHS
57,271 ESTIMATED RECOVERIES
WORLDWIDE
2,178,149 CONFIRMED CASES
145,329 DEATHS
546,743 ESTIMATED RECOVERIES
US, world source: worldometers.info
https://www.reviewjournal.com/tag/c...coronavirus&utm_source=lvrj&utm_medium=banner
Since they've started changing their counting protocols on the fly this past week, I am even less sanguine about the numbers in all respects. And I've heard anecdotal accounts, from people I know, not random anonymous posters on social media (uh, like me now), of fatalities where it was highly questionable whether COVID-19 was a substantial factor in the fatality but were counted as such for the stats. So, folks can believe as they wish, but I've become more skeptical of late.
On the flip side of that, I've also seen articles referencing recovered individuals then coming down again with the virus.
We're all just seeing purported information on computer screens in one form or another (such as in phones), so I tend to not suspend disbelief as to any of it, one way or the other. They can make it look on the internet like I took out Kennedy from behind the fence on the grassy knoll on that day in Dallas. I was like five years old in Columbus, Georgia, at my grandparents' house that day (I remember it very well). But most of the people that could confirm that have passed on now, which of course is a central facet of any JFK assassination conspiracy theory, that all the witnesses have mysteriously passed away in, uh, the ensuing fifty plus years.
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no money and no leadership by the prez...that is why he handed the ball off to the states
mr merlin
EOG Master
That's one way of looking at it, another way is to say they're only hurting themselves and their people. They dont want to reopen, i guess they dont have to, but of course the money will not be coming to those states, not in the amounts they want. Every week that passes further destroys those states economy, tax revenues and hurts the chances of any recovery.
In a week or two when 6 states are opening, then a dozen, then 20- 25 maybe in a month - 6 weeks, they may get the message, and if they dont, cest la vie.
the businesses are going to open with less people... the businesses will do in trump not the governors
mr merlin
EOG Master
People are getting pissed already, just imagine if this drags into summer in these big states, I cant imagine a situation where 2/3rds of the nation is open and the other states citizens are virtual prisoners , raging mad, will be promising for the democrats chances come fall?
people will not be getting hired back... mad for sure.. maybe some walks and civil problems then they vote with their wallet.
mr merlin
EOG Master
This pandemic will be completely over by mid june, july 1st at the latest(according to projections), can the big blue state governors stubbornly keep things closed in that circumstance? i guess we'll find out.
The whole middle of the country, the south, the mountain west will be open, that's a given, just imagine if CA, NY, NJ, Mass, stay shut? God i hope they do.
no shot ... the CEO's already told ian Bremmer probably the #1 geo political scientist they will have less people this year and next
mr merlin
EOG Master
Who do you think you're arguing with? i agree, those jobs aren't all coming back, the damage is done, but we can cut down on further damage.
As i mentioned yesterday, it's so wonderful that city and state govts are going to be litteraly destroyed financially,
WildBill
2
So true Mr. Top. I know a number of clients who are working on a plan to not "waste" this crisis. Now that they had to indiscriminately furlough employees they get a better sense of what jobs are really needed and which are just nice to have. I think most managers are arguing to bring everyone back, but at the top of the food chain there is real pressure to come back with at most 80% of the heads they had before even if the business is back to full operation. This is going to play out everywhere and we'll see 10%+ unemployment rates after this is over even if the economy reaches the levels it saw in Q4 of last year.
Currently stuck in Illinois.
The two most influential politicians in the state, JB Pritzker and Lori Lightfoot, seem to be dragging their feet when it comes to re-opening the economy.
Two radicals who don't inspire the confidence of hard-working people.
It's as if they want to ruin the economy because the economy in its current state doesn't work for their constituents.
Illinois is two states in one.
There's Cook County and everywhere else.
Free the downstate farming communities.
The two most influential politicians in the state, JB Pritzker and Lori Lightfoot, seem to be dragging their feet when it comes to re-opening the economy.
Two radicals who don't inspire the confidence of hard-working people.
It's as if they want to ruin the economy because the economy in its current state doesn't work for their constituents.
Illinois is two states in one.
There's Cook County and everywhere else.
Free the downstate farming communities.
mr merlin
EOG Master
They do want to ruin it, you guys haven't figured that out? By the 1st of july everywhere will be reopened but the west coast, the NE, and maybe ILL, good luck to you poor bastards.
Every nation and state gets the govt they deserve.
Bigrunner
EOG Master
The people that are raging mad and pissed, are the same people you would see at a Trump rally. Idiots in other words.
I see these daily (Televised) Trump updates as doing what his team believes is the right thing to do..Especially with the Charts etc..
Now what I don't get is (and they COULD HAVE) stats from each state: showing the number or % of RECOVERED. To me that's the best advertizement out there, but we don't see it.
Now what I don't get is (and they COULD HAVE) stats from each state: showing the number or % of RECOVERED. To me that's the best advertizement out there, but we don't see it.
Bigrunner
EOG Master
Do you think Trump and Pence are being honest?
What is it Gov Cuomo says and I like : "You can have your opinions, but you can't have your facts'. I just don't get why there is no mention of Recovered.. I get that it might be slightly off, but you can't tell me the Fedral Government can't require states to provide this information. It might be a 4th category of unknown... But there are only Affected and Deaths!
WildBill
2
Doesn't really matter when so many cases aren't detected.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
johns hopkins website could be behind world ometer but no way of knowing if these are official numbers?
johns hopkins website could be behind world ometer but no way of knowing if these are official numbers?
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Exactly. Keep the metro Chicago area and maybe the county east of St Louis shut down for now, open the rest. Michigan should do the same. This is also why the electoral college works in national elections.
Bigrunner
EOG Master
Illinois is part of a 7 state coalition. But what does that mean, I'm sure you and Kelly are more tuned in on how to beat the deadliest, most contagious virus of the modern era.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
You’re correct, people across the lake can’t work, but 2nd home owners from Chicago (who are not supposed to be here BTW) bring their crews in illegally. My uncle can’t get a knee replacement but Nit-Whitmer is allowing abortions. That is solving the pandemic.