Utah Jazz For Real?

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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The NBA feels like a trick-shot league.

Whatever happened to an offense seeking the highest-percentage shot?

I liked when coaches would insist on passing up a good shot to get a great shot.

Instead, today's NBA style is one wild 3-ball after another.

No slight on the players who can fling it from distance.

A lot of guys like Steph Curry and James Harden can even do it off the dribble and sometimes prefer that shot.

Until a few successful teams emerge by pounding the paint and defending the "3," I think the "bombs away" trend will continue.

Will Utah continue to succeed?

I think the Jazz will be home watching the Lakers and Clippers compete this postseason in the Western Conference Finals.
 
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John Kelly

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Living off the three point line...over 40+

Sustainable?


Individual NBA shooting stars strive to achieve a 50/40/90 line.

Fifty percent from the field, 40% from the 3-point arc and 90% from the free-throw line.

Who's the best shooter in NBA history?

Steve Nash should be in the discussion.

Nash has a lifetime regular-season average of 49-43-90, the closest any player has come to 50/40/90.

Nash's numbers are better than Larry Bird's (49-37-88).
 

John Kelly

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In the WNBA where defenders are far less athletic than their NBA counterparts, the three-point line is closer to the basket, the ball is smaller than the NBA version and the regular season lasts only 34 games instead of 82, Elena Delle Donne is the only player in history to make the 50/40/90 Club.

Delle Donne accomplished the feat in the 2019 season.

She hit 51% of her field-goal attempts, 43% of her 3-pointers and 97% of her free throws.
 
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boston massacre

EOG Master
In the WNBA where defenders are far less athletic than their NBA counterparts , the three-point line is closer to the basket and the ball is smaller than the NBA version, Elena Delle Donne is the only player in history to make the 50/40/90 Club.

Delle Donne accomplished the feat in the 2019 season.

She hit 51% of her field-goal attempts, 43% of her 3-pointers and 97% of her free throws.


Candace Parker Leaving L.A. ?

Heard She's Going To Her Hometown Team./ Chicago.

Didn't Know Pat Summit Recruited Her To U. Tenn. From Chi Town.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
The NBA feels like a trick-shot league.

Whatever happened to an offense seeking the highest-percentage shot?

I liked when coaches would insist on passing up a good shot to get a great shot.

Instead, today's NBA style is one wild 3-ball after another.

No slight on the players who can fling it from distance.

A lot of guys like Steph Curry and James Harden can even do it off the dribble and prefer that shot.

Until a few successful teams emerge by pounding the paint and defending the "3," I think the "bombs away" trend will continue.

Will Utah continue to succeed?

I think the Jazz will be home watching the Lakers and Clippers compete this postseason in the Western Conference Finals.
Agree. I wouldn't want to be the LA team playing in Utah before the City Series though.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
A little before the explosion of the 3, but I would have liked to seen Calvin Murphy play in today's game. He was a heck of a shooter.
 
Utah is a pretty complete team though. Bogdanovich has been a proven shooter from 3, I think he'll stay over 40%. Conley has been a good shooter from 3 in his past, but more likely to be a 37-39% guy over the year so he might regress. Mitchell probably won't stay at 40% because he's a volume player so he doesn't get those spot up open 3s much, but still he's going to be above 35% where it makes sense for him to keep shooting. The other guys probably come down a bit and yeah you can't win 90% of your games for long, but this team is well built. We'll see what they can do in the playoffs as they have sort of the old model of NBA winners, no weak links and a guy who can handle every role, but only one superstar so the opponent knows who they have to stop at the end of the game.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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Candace Parker Leaving L.A. ?

Heard She's Going To Her Hometown Team./ Chicago.

Didn't Know Pat Summit Recruited Her To U. Tenn. From Chi Town.


Parker signed a two-year deal with the Sky.

She's been slowing down the past couple of seasons.

She can still score the ball but no longer is she a factor at the defensive end of the floor.
 

billysink

EOG Dedicated
Conley, Jingles, Mitchell, Clarkson probably the best group of guards in league. O'Neal and Rooooty all league defenders.

In the playoffs Mitchell and Bojan will be the weak links on defense


Phoenix gonna get them maybe
 

billysink

EOG Dedicated
Individual NBA shooting stars strive to achieve a 50/40/90 line.

Fifty percent from the field, 40% from the 3-point arc and 90% from the free-throw line.

Who's the best shooter in NBA history?

Steve Nash should be in the discussion.

Nash has a lifetime regular-season average of 49-43-90, the closest any player has come to 50/40/90.

Nash's numbers are better than Larry Bird's (49-37-88).


Drazen Petrovic
Chris Mullen
Mark Price
 
Another game where opponents seem to be afraid of the Jazz and sit out key players. I call bullshit on Kawhi's injury, a leg contusion? That's some world class bull right there, he has a bruise and needs three games off? NBA such a joke, they should call the entire season "exhibition" to be fair.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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Rudy Gobert with 23 and 20 in Utah's 114-96 victory last night over the short-handed Clippers (no Leonard, George, Batum or Kennard).

The teams run it back Friday night at Staples Center.
 

billysink

EOG Dedicated
Let’s wait until the later parts of season to anoint Utah. FTR I’m not a believer

Me neither.

When the guys on a team with the highest true shooting % have the lowest usage, they are headed home early.

Jingles is the best all around player there and has a measly 15.9 usage rate. Royce O has a great three ball but Utah floor spacing could be drawn up on a postage stamp. So Royce gets to touch the ball less than the fukkin referee.

Get Rudy' and Jingles usage up over 20% and O'Neal over 15% and they'll get my money. Donovan Mitchell? Awful some nights.
 
Me neither.

When the guys on a team with the highest true shooting % have the lowest usage, they are headed home early.

Jingles is the best all around player there and has a measly 15.9 usage rate. Royce O has a great three ball but Utah floor spacing could be drawn up on a postage stamp. So Royce gets to touch the ball less than the fukkin referee.

Get Rudy' and Jingles usage up over 20% and O'Neal over 15% and they'll get my money. Donovan Mitchell? Awful some nights.

I think they are playing regular season style ball right now which preserves players health by avoiding a lot of interior contact. Get into the postseason where the perimeter defenders get better and they will go to their interior edge with Rudy a lot more. Not sure how you get Jingles the ball more, they aren't going to draw up plays for him. But he certainly could step up and hit some big shots in the playoffs. The game on New Years against the Clippers is really interesting to review the box score. Mitchell didn't shoot as much in that one, Conley was the star. And they took advantage of Favors on Zubac, a guy who pretty much can't cover anyone. That's the kind of stuff you do in the playoffs because the Clippers had the full crew for that one and even played the big 2 early 40 minutes each. Jazz got a hard fought 6 point win even though they weren't playing that great at the time.
 

John Kelly

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Rudy Gobert enters the game, bet the in-game total UNDER.

Rudy Gobert leaves the game, bet the in-game total OVER.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
In a playoff series vs the Lakers, you better have 2 of the 3 best players or it’s moot. This formula works far more than not.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
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eaton malone and stockton, thurl bailey, b russell, those were the days


That team was evenly-rated by Las Vegas standards with the Chicago Bulls in the 1998 NBA Finals.

Series price: Jazz -110 Bulls -110.

Both teams finished the regular season with records of 62-20 with the Jazz winning both regular-season meetings.
 

John Kelly

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In a playoff series vs the Lakers, you better have 2 of the 3 best players or it’s moot. This formula works far more than not.


What's tough for any team to win the West: You're probably going to have to beat both the Lakers and the Clippers to arrive at the NBA Finals.

Unless, of course, some other team does the dirty work for you.
 
What's tough for any team to win the West: You're probably going to have to beat both the Lakers and the Clippers to arrive at the NBA Finals.

Unless, of course, some other team does the dirty work for you.

Teams are all playing the tanking role to get to the matchups they want. I don't think anyone is going to try to line up something with the Jazz if they are healthy come playoff time. I think the Clippers are confident they can beat the Lakers heads up so they will be fine with falling into that matchup in the 2nd round.
 
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