We want to welcome BetOnSports.com to EOG.com

Chuck Sims

EOG Dedicated
Imagine that....another with nothing better to do than to bring up things that have already been brought up 20 times and answered every time ...:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers:cheers Welcome Back Chuck....I would have won my money on under 24 hours you were back before you brought this up

Ah, Dirty, one of the mods that had no problem with recommending a stiff sportsbook to the unsuspecting. What, are you embarrassed to see past posts? You should be.
 

dirty

EOG Master
I am not embarrassed about anything..... it was just a little joke...you havent been around in a coon's age....and then you Bring this up.....Been wondering where you were at....:cheers In all sincerity glad you are back...you know anyone is welcome to post as they wish... :+thumbs-2
 

Chuck Sims

EOG Dedicated
Chiuck - you gonna be posting more here, sir? Ive always enjoyed ur candid posting.

Thanks IDENTITY. I'll be posting here now that I don't have to see a BetOnSports/Millennium ad banner flashing in my face and mods posting how safe a crooked sportsbook was.
 

Scooter

EOG Veteran
I'd also like to officially welcome BET ON SPORTS as well as MILLENIUM. It's been a long time coming; for I had been one of BOS'S harshest critics in the PAST...

However, there were several factors that persuaded me to accept them here with the other hand chosen sports books I consider to be amongst the ELITE in this industry...

Being a PUBLICALLY TRADED COMPANY does not necessarily lend its name to HONOR, INTEGRITY or SOLVENCY as we only have to look at what happened to ENRON. However, it's certainly one layer of protection because when managed properly, a publicly traded company has to report to its Board of Directors and shareholders.

BET ON SPORTS does exactly that...

There are several MAIN reasons why I have a change of heart (besides the fact that they did pay to be on here, like everyone else).

1-I am now 100% certain that GARY KAPLAN & NORM (TOM MILLER) are no longer involved with BET ON SPORTS & MILLENIUM respectively IN ANY CAPACITY...

2-The NEW MANAGEMENT of BOS has gone out of their way to answer any questions I asked of them. (I am also working behind the scenes to help straighten up some of the MESS that the OLD MANAGEMENT under Gary K, left behind them)...

3-There have been ZERO complaints sent to EOG since our inception...

4-They have agreed to allow either the General or myself intervene on behalf of ANY player who has a dispute, period...

5-I have an account with them and several of my Friends do too. ALL of us have been much happier since the change in management took place...

Does this excuse or exonerate what happened under the OLD FLAGSHIP?

I think NOT.....

But, I feel confident that if you give BOS or MILLENIUM a shot, you will be satisfied and notice a change...

THE SHRINK



Pathetic.

Amazing if anyone takes this clown seriously in the future.
 
But, I feel confident that if you give BOS or MILLENIUM a shot, you will be satisfied and notice a change...

THE SHRINK

You can officially swallow not only your foot but your entire fcking leg!! I guess you are one of the fortunate ones, your account seemed to be un-funded at the time of implosion!!!!
 

dirty

EOG Master
LOL at all the folks trying to Blame the DOJ Nailing BoS on the Shrink...:D :D :D


Makes me cramp from laughter......



Noone knew this was coming and it is laughable to say otherwise :D :D :D
 
LOL at all the folks trying to Blame the DOJ Nailing BoS on the Shrink...:D :D :D


Makes me cramp from laughter......


Glad you find this funny, obviously you seem to have been unaffected by this current situation, now go back under your rock you imbecilic minion!!!!
 
nope i'm fully invested 8 K . everything is on the line . i don't blame anyone but the company and USA not the lucky bastards that have no money vested and get to make money and wager each day...
 

dirty

EOG Master
Glad you find this funny, obviously you seem to have been unaffected by this current situation, now go back under your rock you imbecilic minion!!!!



I don't find anything about players losing money Funny. PLease Tell me when I said that.... Quit reading into this what you want to..... And Calling me a Moron I will take as a compliment as I have been called much worse. :cheers:cheers



What I find Funny is People trying to blame the DOJ Nailing Carruthers and BoS on Shrink, The RX, Major Wager or any other Gambling Portal that advertised them....That is very Comical that you people have such a Hard on to see your name in Lights and "putting Shrink in his place" or "telling it like it is" that it is Hilarious.....


This incident has nothing to do with your opinion or anyone's opinion of their past transgressions of players Funds. And the Famous Incidents on the Forums...and it has all to do with the DOJ's hardon for Gary Kaplan and putting him under the Jail.... And the Fact that they were here only Because DC told Shrink that Kaplan had nothing to do with the company Makes the matter that much worse.....

When are you people going to learn....The day to day Operations of this Company had nothing to do with the DOJ doing what they did. This Case had been building for years and it finally Came down....


Would you blame Shrink and others if this happened to Pinny, Olympic, Cascade, etc..... :+clueless

And I know your response already...they are not shit books...blah blah blah..... That has nothing to do with it when the DOJ gets involved and the Company Voluntarily shuts down.... Managements Decision at BoS towards this situation with the DOJ is the Reason Players may not get thier funds back....Nothing Ken or anyone Else did :cheers
 
LOL at all the folks trying to Blame the DOJ Nailing BoS on the Shrink...:D :D :D


Makes me cramp from laughter......



Noone knew this was coming and it is laughable to say otherwise :D :D :D

Nobody is blaming shrink for the DOJ action.

See if you can follow along, Dirty:

One of the main reasons to stay away from BOS is/was Kaplans involvement.

Shrink said he was '100% sure' that Kaplan was out of it totally. That was a lie. Even if he really didn't think Kaplan was still involved, which is unlikely, it's a lie. He wasn't 'reasonably certain' or 'almost certain' or '99% certain.'

He was 100% certain just like he was 100% that Betpanam had a $500k bond that would cover a stiff job.

The DOJ action is directly related to Kaplan. So shrink lied, people felt comfortable because Kaplan was '100%' out and they sent money, despite warnings all over the place and shrinks history of lying.

That's on the players, in a way, but while you're 'cramping with laughter', people are likely getting stiffed for large amounts of money based on shrinks recommendation and him lying about being '100% certain.'
 
dirty - it is simple. BUT FOR BOS being on this page as an advertiser, people don't lose hundreds of thousands at BOS. period. it is irrelevant why or how BOS stiffed. what IS relevant is that they STIFFED.

oh, and one other thing, BOS has the option to pay. they are not. they are stiffing. just another reason why the DOJ issue is irrelevant. people never should have been steered to these stiffs. its a shame.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Guys you make Valid points.....Shrink, General, Myself and the Rest of the Mods and I am sure the rest of the Gambling world feel awful about what has happened....Noone is basking in Joy over this...It is a Tragedy and I hope everyone gets something back... It is looking bleaker by the Moment...


I have never made fun of that and never will..... But in all Fairness Bringing up past stuff about portal owners and Incinuating they Had something to do about it or Knew about this is comical....


Don't you think Ken or any one else would have warned players and took premptive action on thier behalf if they knew this was coming :+clueless Anyone that knows Shrink and General knows that they would have done that for the players. That is the only thing I find funny..is how the people come out of the woodwork to Dogpile over something that happened to a sports book that was out of thier Control
 
Nobody is blaming shrink for the DOJ action.

See if you can follow along, Dirty:

One of the main reasons to stay away from BOS is/was Kaplans involvement.

Shrink said he was '100% sure' that Kaplan was out of it totally. That was a lie. Even if he really didn't think Kaplan was still involved, which is unlikely, it's a lie. He wasn't 'reasonably certain' or 'almost certain' or '99% certain.'

He was 100% certain just like he was 100% that Betpanam had a $500k bond that would cover a stiff job.

The DOJ action is directly related to Kaplan. So shrink lied, people felt comfortable because Kaplan was '100%' out and they sent money, despite warnings all over the place and shrinks history of lying.

That's on the players, in a way, but while you're 'cramping with laughter', people are likely getting stiffed for large amounts of money based on shrinks recommendation and him lying about being '100% certain.'


AGREED 100% best post in a long time ...sums it all up right there
 
kosar,

I never lied because I didn't know Kaplan was involved.

Hell, I even visited their premises with The General and it sure appeared he was out...

Get a life you coward...

I do my best to provide a place where gamblers can share...

You behave like a prick...

People are hurting now and all you want to do is point fingers huh?

I have nothing else to say to you...
 

dirty

EOG Master
AGREED 100% best post in a long time ...sums it all up right there


What's wrong BP.....NOt a list from them either....:+clueless



you sure have been calling alot of books shit lately you used to love....:+clueless


YOu have no room to talk about anyone..
 
Feel bad for the players who were stiffed maybe all forums should take the BOS advertisement money they have in their bank accounts and give it back to the players to recoupe some of their money they were stiffed by BOS.

Again Jay Cohen called this a long time ago so hopefully many players had stayed away from BOS.

Betus could be next
 
Sorry to say, but anyone who signed up because Shrink put up a BOS banner here just doesn't value money. Many people who post here and the Rx knew about this book's rep. All someone had to do was do a simple search at either site to see if their money was safe. It really sucks for those people because they may see pennies on the dollar.
 

JC

EOG Veteran
This incident has nothing to do with your opinion or anyone's opinion of their past transgressions of players Funds. And the Famous Incidents on the Forums...and it has all to do with the DOJ's hardon for Gary Kaplan and putting him under the Jail.... And the Fact that they were here only Because DC told Shrink that Kaplan had nothing to do with the company Makes the matter that much worse.....

When are you people going to learn....The day to day Operations of this Company had nothing to do with the DOJ doing what they did. This Case had been building for years and it finally Came down....

You are 100% wrong. Have you read the indictment? This case IS about the day to day operations of the company. Not the stiff jobs we would like them to be looking into, but the day to day taking of bets on the telephone and on the internet.

BOS has been trying to spin ity like Kaplan was one of America's most wanted. He wasn't. He was a small to medium size bookmaker in New York in 93 and he got caught. That's it, that's where it ends. His involvement here only makes the rest of the indictment more colorful. They were not after Kaplan because of his '93 NY charge or his subsequent activities in FL. He had been in the US many times since then. If the case were out of NY or FL you might have a point. I'd guess 90%+ of anyone who was involved in his '93 case is long out of law enforcement.

Their only interest in Kaplan is because of BOS. The Eastern District of Missouri never heard of Gary Kaplan, but they did see the ads for BOS back in 2002 and 2003. They were the largest advertisers in the industry at that time. Adding Kaplan on to the heap certainly makes the charges more colorful.

Everyone repeat after me, "It's about offshore gambling."
 

dirty

EOG Master
You are 100% wrong. Have you read the indictment? This case IS about the day to day operations of the company. Not the stiff jobs we would like them to be looking into, but the day to day taking of bets on the telephone and on the internet.

BOS has been trying to spin ity like Kaplan was one of America's most wanted. He wasn't. He was a small to medium size bookmaker in New York in 93 and he got caught. That's it, that's where it ends. His involvement here only makes the rest of the indictment more colorful. They were not after Kaplan because of his '93 NY charge or his subsequent activities in FL. He had been in the US many times since then. If the case were out of NY or FL you might have a point. I'd guess 90%+ of anyone who was involved in his '93 case is long out of law enforcement.

Their only interest in Kaplan is because of BOS. The Eastern District of Missouri never heard of Gary Kaplan, but they did see the ads for BOS back in 2002 and 2003. They were the largest advertisers in the industry at that time. Adding Kaplan on to the heap certainly makes the charges more colorful.

Everyone repeat after me, "It's about offshore gambling."



You are correct JC....as I didn't Clarify very well what I wanted....It was the stiff Jobs I was referring
 
kosar,

I never lied because I didn't know Kaplan was involved.

Hell, I even visited their premises with The General and it sure appeared he was out...

Get a life you coward...

I do my best to provide a place where gamblers can share...

You behave like a prick...

People are hurting now and all you want to do is point fingers huh?

I have nothing else to say to you...


Save your 'people are hurting' nonsense.

As far as pointing fingers? For whatever God forsaken reason, people STILL take you at your word. They follow your advice and recommendations. They get woodys when general rolls out all of their great new promos.

You said that you were 100% sure Kaplan was totally out. No, you weren't. How the f*ck could you be 100% sure unless you could read minds or have total access to any and all dealings with this book?

It might seem like splitting hairs to your sychophants, but an 'i've been told he is no longer a part of any of it' would have been a lot more truthful. You lied and got paid off nicely as you sold your readers down the river. Period.
 
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