WILL BIG BROWN WIN THE TRIPLE CROWN???

pioneer

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From what I've heard and read about your Messiah, he wouldn't feel that way about Dirty.

ray,
you heard/read wrong then...Jesus loves dirty just like He loves all of us, but Jesus would not lie and say that some of the things dirty posts are not idiotic. Note well, ray, I don't just come out and call dirty an idiot; dirty is an idiot because of the things he posts, which I have identified many times in my posts.
 
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It's negative in that the great horses of the past did not use steroids and all they will talk about is how Big Brown did. They even touched on it while I listened to ESPN Radio today. Just because something is legal does not mean it won't be shaded negatively. Would be surprised if a lot of these states continue allowing them after this.
 

nedrow

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nyc boy dutrow anit going to lose going for the triple crown at belmont. lot left in the tank for bb
 

nedrow

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8 is the magic # last winner was in 78 next one in 08, done deal imo
20 20 20
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Big Brown will stay in stall 8 at Barn 2, previously occupied by 2003 Belmont Stakes winner Empire Maker. Empire Maker spoiled Funny Cide's Triple Crown bid. Barn 2 is used by Bobby Frankel, perhaps Dutrow's best friend in the business.
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pioneer

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It's negative in that the great horses of the past did not use steroids and all they will talk about is how Big Brown did. They even touched on it while I listened to ESPN Radio today. Just because something is legal does not mean it won't be shaded negatively. Would be surprised if a lot of these states continue allowing them after this.

Well, duh...the great horses of the past did not use steroids because steroids were not available then. I just looked up Winstrol and it is the brand name of the anabolic steroid, Stanazolol, which was developed in 1962. At some point in time, after 1962, the use of Winstrol for horses became legal, possibly it was legal for Secretariat in '73 or Seattle Slew in '77 or Affirmed in '78. If it is legal, it can not be a negative story. And don't try to use the fact that the media will report it negatively as proof of your theory. I included the media in my question to you...
"For instance, you and the media apparently consider steroids in horseracing a negative story...but why? Dutrow admittedly gives all his horses a monthly shot of steroids(Winstriol) on the 15th of each month and it's perfectly legal in 28 out of 38 states where racing is allowed. So why exactly is this a negative story?"
....the media, and apparently you, are clueless when it comes to horseracing...I submit William C. Rhoden's appearance on the NBC Preakness forum as evidence of the media being clueless. If Big Brown winning the TC leads to a further discussion about steroids in horseracing and possibly to more states outlawing their usage, then that is a positive result, not a negative as you so erroneously stated.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
 

The General

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We got a winner here guys. I don't see any ringer messing with this beast.
 

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If Big Brown winning the TC leads to a further discussion about steroids in horseracing and possibly to more states outlawing their usage, then that is a positive result, not a negative as you so erroneously stated.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

Like I said...sounds like a positive development to me...

Industry News | Posted 5/20/2008, 2:49 pm Kentucky takes step to regulate steroids

By MATT HEGARTY LEXINGTON, Ky. - The Kentucky Equine Drug Research Council formed two subcommittees at a meeting on Tuesday to provide the council with information about the potential regulation of anabolic steroids and how to improve the state's necropsy program.
The formation of the subcommittees was the first concrete step by Kentucky regulators to address the regulation of anabolic steroids, which are currently legal to administer in the state. Members of the council said at the meeting that regulators agree that the state's rules regarding anabolic steroid use will likely change, though differences appear to exist on whether to support a rule that allows for the limited use of four anabolic steroids or a rule that would ban the drugs altogether.
Connie Whitfield, the chairwoman of the council, proposed the motion to form the subcommittee, contending that Kentucky regulators needed "basic facts so that people at a decision-making level can be confident in making decisions."
The council is an offshoot of the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority, and it issues recommendations to the full regulatory body on medication rules. In the past, the council has played a large role in shaping medication policies that are eventually adopted in the state.
A number of U.S. states have already passed a rule recommended by the Association of Racing Commissioners International that would allow for the use of four anabolic steroids but prohibit all other forms of the powerful drugs. The RCI and several national racing organizations are pressuring racing states to adopt the rules before Jan. 1.
It is unclear if Kentucky will meet that deadline. The Kentucky Horsemen's Benevolent and Protective Association has raised questions about the validity of current testing methods and has so far been reluctant to embrace the recommended rule.
John Ward, a trainer who is a member of the council and a board member of the Racing Medication and Testing Consortium - which is funding research into testing methods for anabolic steroids - said at the meeting that the council should draw much of its information from the RMTC. Research into several new testing procedures is expected to be completed by September.
Ward urged the council to adopt regulations on an expedited basis after the research is complete.
"When we do it, we need to do it right, because we can't afford to fall behind," Ward said.
The necropsy subcommittee was formed to study the state's existing necropsy procedures and issue recommendations on how to expand the program. The state had initially attempted to perform a necropsy on every horse that died during a race, but funding for the program was not adequate to pay for all the procedures.
No members were appointed to either committee at the meeting. Whitfield said she planned to appoint the committee members by the end of the week.
 
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I still think he gets it done. Both races were extremly impressive. Seems to came out of last with a lot left. I won't be hedging off any of my bet.
 

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More positive, not negative, developments due to Big Brown being on Winstrol. Note well, that even though CA is one of the 10 states where Winstrol will NOT be legal, it will still be legal to use 30 days prior to racing there. So in reality, it is still legal to use in CA.

Industry News | Posted 5/20/2008, 4:39 pm CHRB moves to stiffen steroid penalties

By MATT HEGARTY The California Horse Racing Board at a meeting on Tuesday approved a motion to reclassify four anabolic steroids as Class 3 drugs in an effort to stiffen penalties for violations of the powerful drugs by the fall.
The four steroids – boldenone, nandrolone, stanozolol, and testosterone – will only be permitted to appear in trace levels in postrace blood and urine tests beginning July 1 under new rules that prohibit all other anabolic steroids. The steroids are currently classified as either Class 4 or Class 6 medications.
If the new classification is approved by the state's administrative bodies, the CHRB will be able to order redistribution of a purse and issue fines and suspensions to trainers for violations. The current classification only allows for fines.
Commissioners passed the motion as a way to get the new regulation through a 45-day public comment period prior to a meeting on July 17. The board is expected to give final approval to the new classification at that meeting.
California is one of 10 states that have recently passed a rule regulating the administration of steroids, which had previously been legal to administer in almost all U.S. racing jurisdictions. The board has set threshold levels for the four steroids that would allow trainers and veterinarians to administer the drugs 30 days out from a race.
* The board also agreed to table a request by the California Authority of Racing Fairs to raise the takeout by 1 percent on all wagers offered at the state's fairs in order to fund capital improvements. Officials of CARF said that the plan would raise $1.25 million a year.
 

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I still think he gets it done. Both races were extremly impressive. Seems to came out of last with a lot left. I won't be hedging off any of my bet.
I agree Judge. He looks very good and I think the 3 year old competition is very suspect to say the least. Hope we see him run again after June 7 against the big boy.
 

pioneer

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Vet Dr Steve Allday on Tuesday's 'At the Races with Steve Byk': "I was the one that advised [Dutrow] to put his horses on anabolic steroids. Winstrol, in particular. Once a month. And the reason why, basically, your competition is doing it, number one. So therefore you are at a disadvantage if you didn't do it. Number two, it is not illegal -- It's basically good to keep the horses in the tub, to keep their weight up and it does give you a decided advantage if you're going to go ahead and race hard and get a lot more starts out of them." ...However, "It's gotta go. There's no other professional sport that allows it. It's time has come and gone." [Allday interview is halfway into Hour 2]
 

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by Tom LaMarra
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Or is it?
?This is a complicated subject,? said Dr. David Nash, executive director of the Equine Drug Research Institute headed by Dr. Don Catlin.
Nash offered his insight to the drug council, which is charged with making recommendations to the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority. The drug council formed a subcommittee to study regulation of steroids, but outside of that, had many more questions than answers.
?I feel that right now, too many people are half-informed or misinformed, and I put myself in that group,? drug council chair Connie Whitfield said. ?I sense that right now we?re operating under different assumptions. If Kentucky does make a decision to regulate or ban (steroids), we need to be able to explain why we took that certain position.?
The Racing Medication and Testing Consortium, a group of about 25 industry stakeholders, has suggested all racing jurisdictions adopt a model rule to regulate four anabolic steroids by Jan. 1, 2009. Thus far, three states have adopted the rule, and others are moving the process along.
The RMTC, which has no regulatory authority, wrote the model rule in conjunction with the Association of Racing Commissioners International. It spells out cut-off times for use of the four steroids, which have valid therapeutic purposes.
With a 30- to 45-day cut-off before a race, the steroids would effectively be banned for use on race day. But the Federal Drug Administration-approved substances?stanozolol (Winstrol), boldenone (Equipoise), nandralone (Durabolin), and testosterone?wouldn?t technically be banned, just regulated.
There are complicating factors. Three of the steroids can occur naturally in intact male horses, making testing more difficult. A debate lingers over whether the drugs should be tested for in urine or blood. And there are about 70 other steroids for which there currently are no tests, leading to speculation some horsemen may just use some of those in racehorses.
?We?re left shaking our heads, saying, ?What are the facts?? ? Whitfield said. ?We have Dr. Catlin?s opinion versus other arguments. Why regulate four steroids and not 10? There are some basic facts I?d like to see some agreement on.?
Catlin, a specialist in human drug testing, earlier this year told attendees at the Welfare and Safety of the Racehorse Summit that use of anabolic steroids in racehorses should be banned given the complications of regulation.
?Dr. Catlin is specifically concerned there?s not that much published data in the United States on the testing method (the racing industry) is looking at employing,? Nash said. ?Dr. Catlin?s fear is that we may be pushing the regulations faster that the labs have the ability to perform analyses and defend the results if there is a legal challenge.?
Trainer John Ward, a member of the drug council and RMTC, said the ?science is fast moving? in the area of steroids. He said the current situation in horse racing?putting horses on steroid regimens?has to change.
?The consensus would be there will be change in the state of Kentucky, and the state wants to change effectively to mirror the best procedures we can, but the science is still gray,? Ward said. ?When we do it, we have to do it right the first time.?
Trainer Rick Hiles, president of the Kentucky Horsemen's Benevolent and Protective Association and a drug council member, said in 30 years, he has given five injections of steroids on the advice of veterinarians for treatment of horses.
"I don't believe in them," Hiles said. "That being said, I don't think there is a policy you can set until they get the plasma level set (for testing)."
The RMTC has pushed completion of research into anabolic steroids back to September, which creates an even smaller window. The research deals with testing in plasma.
The push for steroids regulation has been influenced by concerns about public perception and possible intervention on the part of the federal government. The breakdown and subsequent death of the filly Eight Belles after the May 3 Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) triggered attacks on the racing industry even though a necropsy showed the filly wasn?t on steroids or any banned substances.
Republican Kentucky Sen. Damon Thayer, a member of the drug council, said public perception figures large in the equation because many members of the non-trade media don?t understand equine drug testing and regulation. He also noted time is running short on the RMTC recommendation for adoption of regulations nationally.
?I know one thing?we had better move fast on regulation,? Thayer said. ?We have a small window of opportunity. I don?t think the public will be very patient with us on this. I might be in favor of banning (steroids) all together.?
Thayer noted any regulations adopted by the KHRA must be approved by the state legislature. That process takes time. He noted, however, Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear has the right to issue an emergency regulation if the need arises before the legislature acts.
?This could be an area where the governor could be persuaded,? Thayer said. ?I don?t know, because I don?t know him very well.?
Thayer said given the fallout from this year?s Derby, he hopes the regulations are in place in time for the 2009 event at Churchill Downs.
Members of the drug council subcommittee will be announced the week of May 18, Whitfield said. At Ward?s suggestion, the subcommittee will look at ways drug council funds can be used for research into testing for anabolic steroids.
Delaware, Indiana, and Pennsylvania are among the states that have adopted the model rule on anaoblic steroids. Iowa has been regulating steroids via urine testing for more than 10 years.
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</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>By Christine Brennan, USA TODAY
Not much can get in Big Brown's way now. His victories are getting bigger and bolder. The Triple Crown, horse racing's first since 1978, is within reach. This, clearly, is the horse of our dreams.
Except for that steroid thing.
Yes, the scourge of baseball and cycling and the Olympics now has officially hit the sport of kings, even though it has been lurking for years. Big Brown's trainer has admitted giving his horse Winstrol ? the same anabolic steroid that Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson took 20 years ago before the Seoul Olympics, the same substance that got Johnson kicked out of the 1988 Games and stripped of his gold medal in the men's 100 meters.
It's also the steroid that Rafael Palmeiro took to both ruin his image and get drummed out of baseball in one fell swoop.
Isn't it lovely the company Big Brown is keeping? Although, to be fair, it should be noted that ? so far, anyway ? the drug doesn't seem to have done much to increase the horse's home run production.

This is just what the horse racing industry didn't need following the tragic, on-the-track death of Eight Belles in the Kentucky Derby. But this is what it, like so many other sports, must now deal with: its very own Steroid Era.
"It is embarrassing to have a lead horse be on steroids," said Don Catlin, who created the Olympic testing lab at UCLA and, as one of the world's best-known doping experts, is now working with the equine industry. "The world is sitting up and saying, 'Hello, wait a minute.' That's why the industry has to get ahold of this issue.
"It's not just Big Brown; it's many, many horses," he continued. "It's legal to give horses steroids in Kentucky, so (trainer Rick) Dutrow didn't violate any law. In some states, though, it's illegal. I've been trying to get the equine industry to wake up. It's tragic what they are doing. They don't like being in the headlines as a sport that allows steroids, so they're working on it."
In fact, by the end of this year, what Dutrow said he regularly does ? give all his horses an injection of Winstrol on the 15th of every month ? will be illegal if Catlin and the racing industry get their way. Right now, 10 states ban the use of non-therapeutic anabolic steroids in horses ? but not the Triple Crown states, which also include Maryland and New York. By the end of the year, the hope is that all 38 states that conduct horse racing will ban steroids.
"We don't feel that steroids should be used in a performance-enhancing way," said Eric Wing, senior director of media relations for the National Thoroughbred Racing Association. "Big Brown is one of the horses currently receiving them on a regular basis. He's not the only one, but come next year, he won't be able to receive them."
There is a great debate in the horse racing world over just how helpful and just how dangerous anabolic steroids are. Do they aid a horse's recovery between races? Do they build muscle mass, as steroids do in humans? If that's the case, it's possible more leg injuries are occurring because of the horse's increased bulk.
"It's tradition for horses to be given steroids, and you hear a lot of veterinarians defending tradition, but they are defending a tradition that is harming racing," said veterinarian Joe Bertone, professor of equine medicine and pharmacology at Western University of Health Sciences in Pomona, Calif. "In terms of public opinion, if there's not that much benefit in using them, and I don't think there is, and they taint the sport that much, which they do, then they should be banned from racing."
For about four years, Catlin has been studying why this sport allows steroids to be used. "It's often wishful thinking on the part of the trainer: We need steroids for this and that," he said. "I push them for references, and suddenly things begin to change, and you hear (steroids) work exactly as they do in humans. The more I looked into it, the more interesting it became. It reminded me of the days of the sporting world at the time of Ben Johnson."
So, with all that he knows, is Big Brown's run for the Triple Crown fair, or not?
Catlin stops for a moment. "What can I say?"
He pauses again.
"It's a very valid question."

...add Christine Brennan to William C. Rhoden as clueless. She equates steroid use in horses, which is legal, to steroid use in humans(the scourge of baseball and cycling and the Olympics), which is illegal. There is no question but that steroid usage in horseracing is controversial; but there is also no question but that it is LEGAL! Horseracing decided some time ago to make steroids legal; they may at some time decide to make them illegal; it is not for some journalists to decide what is right and what is wrong but to report on what is happening.
And once again, I think the discussion about steroids brought about by BigBrown's TC quest is a positive for horseracing!
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:smokesmalTHANK YOU-READ THE STORY OF THIS HORSE FROM JAPAN-AND THE OWNERS TIES TO THE EX-LEADERS OF JAPAN-NOT SURE IF THEY OWN IT STILL OR NOT-WILL DO THE EX-JUST AS YOU SAID--I AM NOT A GREAT HORSE PERSON,ALTHOUGH I ENJOY THE RACES.EX-BOX IT IS-GOOD LUCK TO ALL-:smokesmal
 

pioneer

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(The gelding situation is a unique and important issue insofar as the steroids and horseracing discussion goes....this is the first time I've seen it mentioned!)

CHRB takes steps toward crackdown on steroids


By Brent Schrotenboer
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

May 24, 2008

California horse racing has taken a cue from pro football and major league baseball – moving this week to rid its sport of anabolic steroids. Under regulations approved this week by the California Horse Racing Board, all steroids would be reclassified as among the three most serious drug categories. This would bring tougher penalties for positive tests, such as disqualification, redistribution of purses and 30-day suspensions for first offenses.
Previously, steroids were legal to a certain degree and were classified among drugs considered therapeutic in nature. If caught, perpetrators were subject only to light punishment such as fines.
“To ensure you do not have a positive test, the time to stop administering steroids is now,” board Chairman Richard Shapiro wrote in a letter yesterday to California horse owners, trainers and breeders.
The CHRB hopes the regulations are in effect by the Breeder's Cup at Santa Anita on Oct. 24-25. Before being enacted, the reclassifications must be posted for 45-day public notice before a July 17 public hearing at Del Mar. Testing with warnings is to begin July 1.
U.S. horse racing has been behind the curve of other sports when it comes to banning steroids, mostly because they are more accepted in the sport's culture. About one-third of race horses are geldings and have their natural source of steroids removed.
“I'd imagine in the NFL, if a third of their linemen were geldings, they'd have a different attitude about steroids than they do today,” said Rick Arthur, the CHRB's equine medical director.
The United States is the world's only major racing jurisdiction that doesn't ban anabolic steroids. Such regulations are determined by states. Earlier this week, Kentucky racing officials discussed a steroid ban there.
Under the California regulations, four steroids would be permitted under certain thresholds: boldenone, nandrolone, stanozolol and testosterone. That's because most of those are naturally occurring to some degree. Any trace of other steroids would be banned, Arthur said.
 

pioneer

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More info...note well, steroids are NOT banned....they will have to be administered at least 30 days before racing though....

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by Jack Shinar
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]If your horse is being treated with anabolic steroids and you plan to race in California, the time to stop administering them is now.

That's the word from Richard Shapiro, chairman of the California Horse Racing Board, and Dr. Rick Arthur, the agency's equine medical director.

Rule changes that will reclassify the four most common types of anabolic steroids were approved by the CHRB at its May 20 meeting in Sacramento.

"To ensure you do not have a positive test, the time to stop administering steroids is now," Shapiro said in a letter to the industry released May 23.

The steroids reclassifications, which will be immediately posted for 45-day public notice prior to a July 17 public hearing at Del Mar, go hand-in-hand with a larger regulatory package of penalties and classification changes. That larger package has been slowly moving through the regulatory process and is expected to be fully in place before the Breeders? Cup, which will be hosted by the Oak Tree Racing Association at Santa Anita Park Oct. 24-25.

The board previously banned all steroids except for the commonly used boldenone, nandrolone, stanozolol, and testoserone, and established very low threshold levels for those four anabolic steroids, three of which are naturally occurring in the horse.

The latest action began the process of reclassifying penalties for those four anabolic steroids. Violations will result in the disqualification of the horse and redistribution of the purse, and those involved would face minimum 30-day suspensions for first offenses. The regulatory process is expected to be completed in September.

Arthur said that the necessary laboratory procedures and official testing of samples will begin July 1.

"We will start issuing complaints and/or warnings for violations after that date," he said in a CHRB report released May 23.

"Testosterone, boldenone, nandrolone, and stanozolol are temporarily Class 4," Arthur added. "All other anabolic steroids already are Class 2 or 3. Complaints will be issued for Class 2 or 3 violations after July 1. However, sanctions for the Class 4 steroids testosterone, boldenone, nandrolone, and stanozolol will be limited to warnings for the first few months until their reclassification to Class 3 is completed."

Arthur also said that:

-- A warning period on the latest reclassifications will probably end in September. The first step in the regulatory process to move testosterone, boldenone, nandrolone, and stanozolol to Class 3 already has been taken. Once this regulatory process is completed, all anabolic steroids will be Class 2 or Class 3. This is expected to be completed in September, at which time complaints will be issued for violations involving excess levels for those four as well.

-- All Class 2 and Class 3 steroid violations will result in purse redistributions and a minimum 30-day suspension for first-time offenders. Any warnings issued after July 1 for the Class 4 steroids testosterone, boldenone, nandrolone, and stanozolol could count as an aggravating factor against anyone who receives a complaint after they become Class 3. Equipoise (boldenone), Durabolin (nandrolone), Winstrol (stanozolol) and testosterone are the most common anabolic steroids used in racing. If you have any questions consult your veterinarian.

-- All anabolic steroids are not being banned. Veterinarians can still have and administer the commonly used anabolic steroids on the racetrack, but the substances cannot be found in post-race tests except at the threshold levels established by CHRB regulations. Threshold levels have been established for testosterone, boldenone, nandrolone, and stanzolol. The first three are naturally occurring, also known as endogenous, in the horse.

-- Withdrawal times are specific to the formulation. As a group, anabolic steroids stay around for a long time, longer than any other group of drugs used in racing. Trainers should be looking at a minimum of 30 days with the water-based anabolic steroids, such as Winstrol and aqueous testosterone. The oil-based anabolic steroids, such as Equipoise, Durabolin, and testosterone will need a minimum of 45 days. We are advocating that administration of these drugs stop at this time. These are recommendations for minimum withdrawal times. There are too many variables involved to be more specific. Dose, route of administration, specific formulation, and multiple doses are all factors that cannot be controlled. Withdrawal times on these drugs are further complicated by the common use of compounded anabolic steroids. Compounded drugs do not have the same quality control standards as drugs manufactured at FDA inspected facilities.

-- A horse can be treated with anabolic steroids, but sufficient time must pass afterward for the administered drug to clear the system, otherwise a positive test could result. The CHRB can arrange pre-entry testing, provided the treatment is correctly documented by the veterinarian. The current drug testing budget for the CHRB allows the agency to provide pre-race testing at no cost to horsemen through the rest of 2008.

-- Pennsylvania and Delaware already are regulating anabolic steroids, and the Racing Medication and Testing Consortium has recommended all jurisdictions have policies to regulate anabolic steroids in place no later than the end of this year. In California, the Ken Maddy Equine Analytical Laboratory at UC-Davis began gearing up early last year for the testing of anabolic steroids once it became clear this was going to be an issue in horse racing. While California might be ahead of most other states, anabolic steroids should be effectively regulated throughout the country by the end of the year.

-- The CHRB has been in close contact with the California Thoroughbred Trainers and other horsemen?s groups in an effort to discuss and educate all parties on the new rules that are being enacted. The CHRB will schedule backside open meetings in Northern and Southern California to address any questions or concerns.
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