WMDs in Iraq ...the truth the Mainstream Media will not tell you about

dirty

EOG Master
#1
Disinformation: 22 Media Myths That Undermine the War on Terror
by Richard Miniter
  • 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium
  • 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents
  • 17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas)
  • Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas
  • Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and "conventional" sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency
This is only a PARTIAL LIST of the horrific weapons verified to have been recovered in Iraq to date. Yet Americans overwhelmingly believe U.S. and coalition forces have found NO weapons of mass destruction.
The question is: WHY do they believe this lie?
Turn on the TV at any given moment, and you're likely to see some earnest media "expert" telling you confidently that America faces a serious threat from suitcase nukes, that Al-Qaeda terrorists are streaming across the Mexican border, that there was no link between Al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, and that Iraq is another Vietnam. There's just one problem with all this: none of it is true. Richard Miniter explains why these and other popular media factoids and urban legends are not only wrong, but severely damaging to our war effort, in Disinformation: The 22 Media Myths That Undermine the War on Terror.
In Disinformation Richard Miniter reveals:
  • Three common myths about the Bush Administration that have been spread widely by Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11
  • The 9/11 hijackers used box-cutters to take control of the four planes they hijacked, right? Wrong -- and how this popular myth got started
  • How bin Laden declared war on America five separate times and pursued his jihad war against the United States throughout the 1990s -- contrary to liberal media claims that no one had heard of him before 9/11
  • Bush knew? No -- as is clear from this close examination of the CIA memo that supposedly warned him about possible hijackings before 9/11
  • Are U.S. troops in Iraq to make the world safe for Halliburton? No -- in fact, Halliburton has not made a fortune in Iraq, and is even trying to sell its division that runs Iraqi operations
  • A war for oil? Why the U.S. is not fighting one in Iraq or anywhere else
  • Clear, uncontested, proven links between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Al Qaeda
  • Suitcase nukes? Relax: most of the information causing the panice about them has come from one Russian general who has changed his story many times
  • Borders out of control? How, as unlikely as it sounds, there are actually no known cases of Al Qaeda terrorists sneaking across the Mexican border
  • Why so many people are so eager to believe these War on Terror myths, no matter how outlandish they are
Miniter marshals the evidence -- all the evidence -- that shoots down this dangerous disinformation and refutes the legions of shallow media talking heads who mindlessly repeat it. If you want the real truth about the War on Terror and what we must do in order to win it, Disinformation is the indispensable starting point.
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#2
Your are so fucking gullible dirty

Your are so fucking gullible dirty

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Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#3
You are so fucking gullible dirty

You are so fucking gullible dirty

Keep believing the lies your beloved president and his cabal feed you, your opinion is worthless anyhow.
 

dirty

EOG Master
#4
Just wait til the 08' election....these reports will be released and make all these Liberal's look like Fools....They are out there and some have been found....I heard a Interview with a soldier on Niel Boortz the other day and he was just Mistified that none of this info has beed released yet...Just chalk another Victory up to Ole Bush when he blows the Doors of these Liberal Clown in 2007 when Cadidacy for next presidancy is Decided.


The truth is there if you want to hear it and find it.....but the Liberal Left wing media have all you sheep right where they want them.... As long as you Keep the General Public Dumbed down and only report half the story......the part that makes Conservatives look bad.......The Ignorant masses that can't think for themselves or do their own research and find the Truth Good Or Bad will always Follow.....Why do you think the Idea of big Government is great to so many people....They have no accountability for thier actions and the government pays them to be deadbeats in welfare....


The Immortal Murderer Teddy Kennedy said it best during the last election "We are at a War against Individual Freedoms in the Unites States" The left wants the Government to control everything and the Conservatives believe in Individual Freedoms.....

If People want the government to control everything Move to Germany, France, or China.....leave the Individual Freedoms to the Deserving Americans.
 
#5
Dirty, could you show us the list of delivery vehicles for all these weapons? Just wanna have that whole 'WMD here in 45 minutes' bit backed up. Oh, and could you also show us the details of how far along Saddam was in his making of nuclear weapons, which is presumably what this writer is leading us to believe by his mention of enriched uranium?

Also, could you ask the author why, if Saddam had so many WMDs, the Bush administration publicly stated that he did not, both pre-9/11 and post-Shock-and-Awe?

Thanks.
 
#6
Oh, and as an afterthought, any idea how many of these same weapons or weapons-making materials the US has in their possession right now?

Would hate for anyone to look hypocritical here.
 

dirty

EOG Master
#7
When did the question get to what does the US have???? What does it matter???? We arent going around strapping Bombs to ourselves and blowing up innocent people like the Peaceful Religion of Islam is. We are Preventing Crazed Lunatics from doing it.


And We never said they didn't have them we said we haven't found them Yet...let's get some facts sraight....It will all come out in the Wash....Able Danger is just the Beginning....we are noe fiding out How Clinton knew Atta was here and was planning the airplane attack on the US, but he wouldn't allow the FBI to tell the Pentagon....it is all coming out slowly But surely....The Pentagon has put a GAg order on all the Members of Able Danger....they don't want the truth out now....but it will be revealed in due time....


Yall keep Bashing the Greatest nation in the world....it will be OK...
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#8
ROFLMAO You praise Bush in one breath and in then move on to how much you hate big government that is unaccountable. Open your eyes moron.


dirty said:
Just wait til the 08' election....these reports will be released and make all these Liberal's look like Fools....They are out there and some have been found....I heard a Interview with a soldier on Niel Boortz the other day and he was just Mistified that none of this info has beed released yet...Just chalk another Victory up to Ole Bush when he blows the Doors of these Liberal Clown in 2007 when Cadidacy for next presidancy is Decided.


The truth is there if you want to hear it and find it.....but the Liberal Left wing media have all you sheep right where they want them.... As long as you Keep the General Public Dumbed down and only report half the story......the part that makes Conservatives look bad.......The Ignorant masses that can't think for themselves or do their own research and find the Truth Good Or Bad will always Follow.....Why do you think the Idea of big Government is great to so many people....They have no accountability for thier actions and the government pays them to be deadbeats in welfare....


The Immortal Murderer Teddy Kennedy said it best during the last election "We are at a War against Individual Freedoms in the Unites States" The left wants the Government to control everything and the Conservatives believe in Individual Freedoms.....

If People want the government to control everything Move to Germany, France, or China.....leave the Individual Freedoms to the Deserving Americans.
 

dirty

EOG Master
#9
I never Praised Bush......I think what he has done expanding Government is Deplorable.....


I defended his response and actions on the war in Iraq.....does that mean I agree with everything he does....Of course not you Rocket scientist.....Typical Liberal thought process....Just becuase you praise a man for One thing you lump it all together and say I worship everything he does....What Fodder

You leftists literally kill me how you can't think for yourselves and try to find out the truth....Their are lot's of truths out there I don't agree with But I don't Deny them either. I give credit where Credit is Due....Unlike you leftist Elitsts.
 

dirty

EOG Master
#11
The Moron's in this situation are Elitist lft wingers who goto Communist and socailist Sites like Moveon.org and the Democratic underground and actually believe any of the things they say.....That thought process on those sites is Destroying this counry and The people have had enough are showing it at the Ballot Box and the Socialists in this country can't stand it. They just sling enough Shit on the wall and hope some of it sticks
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#12
Just the fact that you defend going to war says it all. I don't need anyone else to tell me what to think. I was against this war before the assholes on the whitehouse even made it obvious what their intentions were. It is you and many other americans who are brainwashed idiots. I'll bet "small government" dirty voted for Bush.....me, I voted for Badnarik, someone who would actually recude the size of governent, protect its people, not violate constitutional rights and hopefully not lie continuosly to the american people.


dirty said:
I never Praised Bush......I think what he has done expanding Government is Deplorable.....


I defended his response and actions on the war in Iraq.....does that mean I agree with everything he does....Of course not you Rocket scientist.....Typical Liberal thought process....Just becuase you praise a man for One thing you lump it all together and say I worship everything he does....What Fodder

You leftists literally kill me how you can't think for yourselves and try to find out the truth....Their are lot's of truths out there I don't agree with But I don't Deny them either. I give credit where Credit is Due....Unlike you leftist Elitsts.
 

dirty

EOG Master
#13
Badnarick has no Track record to speak of.....and Your comments show what you know about our Government......Congress Controls this country and the Budget....The President Just makes Recommendations.....I can pull up congress's voting record on the war and other Issues if you want that yall despise now. Even the left wing Socialists in our government were on board and Most still are now...If you think the President has that Much pull in this nation then you are the Moron....It is called Checks and Balances.....Keeps a dictator from taking over the country.....That is why we have 3 branches of government...but you should have learned that in School.....


You know so little about my POlitics it is Funny....I have posted before about my views and why I didn't vote Libertarian....I am a conservative Not a Republican....And yes I voted for Bush...he was the Best alternative out there....Better than that clown Kerry or anyone else that the Dems can bring up....


The Left knows they cna't win anymore so they have to Bitch and Moan and try to destroy people to try to get back on top.....Howard Dean is a conservatives Best friend.....


Once the Libertarians Become a Major party I will Probably Vote for them
 

dirty

EOG Master
#14
And if you think it would be different under any other President you are Lying to Yourself.....With 9/11 and the Hurricanes the government would have kept getting bigger....Congress is to blame not the President....They pass the Budgets and add more and more Pork every year.
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#15
And who controls congress? That would be the same republicans who cow to bush every day.

dirty said:
And if you think it would be different under any other President you are Lying to Yourself.....With 9/11 and the Hurricanes the government would have kept getting bigger....Congress is to blame not the President....They pass the Budgets and add more and more Pork every year.
 

dirty

EOG Master
#16
Thanks to Leakgate Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's decision to indict "Scooter" Libby last week, Bush administration accuser Joe Wilson is once again the toast of Washington, D.C. - recycling the fifteen minutes of fame he first purchased in July 2003 with the claim that Bush lied about Iraq's plan to acquire uranium from Niger.
Why was Bush's uranium claim so important? Because if true, the mere attempt by the Iraqi dictator to acquire uranium would show that he had clear and incontrovertible plans to restart his nuclear program.
Maybe that's why the press seldom discusses the fact that Saddam already had a staggeringly large stockpile of uranium - 500 tons, to be exact. And if his mere intention to acquire uranium was enough to justify fears of Saddam's nuclear ambition, what would the average person deduce from that fact that he'd already stockpiled a huge quantity of the bombmaking fuel?


In its May 22, 2004 edition, the New York Times confirmed a myriad of reports on Saddam's nuclear fuel stockpile - and revealed a chilling detail unknown to weapons inspectors before the war: that Saddam had begun to partially enrich his uranium stash.

The Times noted:
"The repository, at Tuwaitha, a centerpiece of Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons program, . . . . holds more than 500 tons of uranium . . . . Some 1.8 tons is classified as low-enriched uranium."
Thomas B. Cochran, director of the nuclear program at the Natural Resources Defense Council, told the Times that "the low-enriched version could be useful to a nation with nuclear ambitions." "A country like Iran," Mr. Cochran said, "could convert that into weapons-grade material with a lot fewer centrifuges than would be required with natural uranium."
 

kaiz

EOG Member
#17
The left wants the Government to control everything and the Conservatives believe in Individual Freedoms.....

aren't you posting on a gambling forum? which the last i knew sen. kyle and rep. osborne were trying to outlaw,,, republicans and personal freedom?? Gambling? euthanasia? medical marijuana? i could go on but i a a little pissed living in se asia it is 1230 am... dirty !! i will carry on this convo later



one question ? howold are you? might not be worth my effort
 

dirty

EOG Master
#18
I am 33 for the record...and What does Gambling have to do with my Conservative Views....And who Said I was a Republican????? You obviously Jump to too many wrong Conclusions....


you know nothing of me....But the Republicans in this country are better than the Socailist and communists Left that is taking Hold in this country.....

IF Gambling stays Illegal and I can keep my personal rights along with everyone else in this country then that is a Trade off I am willing to take..Been illegal for so many years in all but Nevada so what about a few more years....Just trying to save my country from the Communists that are trying to take over.....


for your Information I am a Libertarian.....
 

kaiz

EOG Member
#19
dirty said:
I am 33 for the record...and What does Gambling have to do with my Conservative Views....And who Said I was a Republican????? You obviously Jump to too many wrong Conclusions....


you know nothing of me....But the Republicans in this country are better than the Socailist and communists Left that is taking Hold in this country.....

IF Gambling stays Illegal and I can keep my personal rights along with everyone else in this country then that is a Trade off I am willing to take..Been illegal for so many years in all but Nevada so what about a few more years....Just trying to save my country from the Communists that are trying to take over.....


for your Information I am a Libertarian.....

i am glad to see that you are a litle bit older but not older than me...

"and What does Gambling have to do with my Conservative Views....And who Said I was a Republican????? You obviously Jump to too many wrong Conclusions...."

maybe you are not conservative( i dont believe ) who wants to stop gambling but conservatives... whatever happened to states rights--- died under shrub /ashcroft
 

dirty

EOG Master
#20
States Rights have been gone for Decades....since the 17th Amendment was passed Requiring Senators to be voted on by the Public in each state instead of appointed by the governor or chosen the way the states see fit....The The senators were to Look out for states Rights and the House for People's rights...Once they were both Publicly elected by the same people then the States Lost thier Power in washington becuase the Senators Sold out and started doing what was best to get the Vote....Not what was best for the States.....That is why Pork spending and Government Programs are out of Control.....We don't have a Tricameral legislature anymore...It is a Bicameral...


Until the Libertarians Become a strong national Party in the Next 5 years...once they Become a free Political Party to join like everyone else that survives off donations....I have to Vote Republican becuase it is the Best Option Out there here in the US.....It is the last Thing from Our free Republic to Pure Socialism....Then communism....


The parties have shifted so far to the left that Today's Repoublicans...at least the Moderate ones ....are like 40 years ago's democrats.......And todays Democrats are Almost Purely Socialist...at least the ones Running the party and pushing the Agenda's






Amendment XVII - Senators elected by popular vote. Ratified 4/8/1913. History
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.
When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#21
Yeah, your so fucking libertarian you voted for the asshole bush. Let's see how libertarian you are.. here's a few questions..

. Do you think euthanasia should be legal?
. Do you think drug prohibition is ok, constitutional?
. Are you pro-choice?


dirty said:
I am 33 for the record...and What does Gambling have to do with my Conservative Views....And who Said I was a Republican????? You obviously Jump to too many wrong Conclusions....


you know nothing of me....But the Republicans in this country are better than the Socailist and communists Left that is taking Hold in this country.....

IF Gambling stays Illegal and I can keep my personal rights along with everyone else in this country then that is a Trade off I am willing to take..Been illegal for so many years in all but Nevada so what about a few more years....Just trying to save my country from the Communists that are trying to take over.....


for your Information I am a Libertarian.....
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#22
A couple more questions for dirty..

. Is it okay to hold an American Citizen indefinitely, without charging them with a crime and without giving them a trial?
. Is it okay to secretly search peoples homes without a warrant for any reason?
 
#23
Nimue77 said:
A couple more questions for dirty..

. Is it okay to hold an American Citizen indefinitely, without charging them with a crime and without giving them a trial?
. Is it okay to secretly search peoples homes without a warrant for any reason?
I'm not Dirty but our President, through his lack of action, says it is alright, yes, and yes. And then , it is okay to torture them as well!
 

dirty

EOG Master
#24
ZZ name one American that George Bush or out government has Tortured???? If you are talking about the Terrorists...they deserve everything they get....They don't have rights of US Citizens...



Nimue...What do those questions have to do with being a Libertarian....Just becuase I am a Libertarian doesn't mean I can't be a conservative....I want the Constitution Followed to the Letter of the law and Not interpreted by the Supreme court like it is now...They have already taken Away the right to Own property....And it has to stop....Do I agree with every Law that is in this Country NO....But we have to have them...I believe in Abortion and Abortion will never be taken away in this country..If the Supreme court overturns it (miniscule chance) then the states will pass laws to keep it legal....It has already been stated that would happen...


I know Tons of Conservative Libertarians...and that doesn't mean we agree with the entire Spectrum of the party...I agree with parts of all Political parties...But you fail to Read anything I post or Type other than with Disdain or contempt or Both....Like I am a Right wing Lunatic Like Pat Roberts...


You obviously Can't separate Politics from personal Life like Most leftists in this country......they don't know how to do that when they are Losing every Battle and have no Direction....They hate everything about the opposition and can't see any good in it whatsoever...Not even the Biggest One of all .....We are All Americans....Of all Races, sexes and Nationalities...I have Friends who are left wing lunatics who live and die with the Democratic party....Drink beer with them every week...doesn't mean they are bad people...I don't Villify them....I just hope the wake up before they realize it is too late and this country is Socialist...



Yall can keep attacking me all you want....Us conservative's are used to it...We have been Ridiculed and persecuted by the Leftist Socialists and Communists all thru Recent History....When the governmentis telling you How many Loaves of Bread and gallons of Milk you can buy in teh Next 30-40 years then You will wished you would have stood up against the Socialist Movement in this country.....You may not have to deal with it...but I have a 5 and a 3 year old son and several Nieces and Nephews....and I will not leave them to a country like Europe is now....A Bunch of Spineless Socialist Pigs.
 

dirty

EOG Master
#25
Jack Kelly: About that Iraq 'deception'

Evidence does link Saddam to WMD programs and terror groups

Sunday, November 06, 2005
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The president went on television to announce: "Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors."
<!--Start insert kelly--><!--BEGIN SIDEBOX RIGHT--><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=180 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=10> </TD><TD bgColor=#ffffff colSpan=3>
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=10> </TD><TD width=5 bgColor=#ffffff> </TD><TD width=160 bgColor=#ffffff><CENTER>Jack Kelly is national security writer for the Post-Gazette and The Blade of Toledo, Ohio (jkelly@post-gazette.com, 412-263-1476).</CENTER><TD width=5 bgColor=#ffffff> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom><TD width=10> </TD><TD bgColor=#ffffff colSpan=3>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--END SIDEBOX RIGHT--><!--End insert kelly-->"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years," the vice chairman of the Intelligence committee told the Senate.
The president was Bill Clinton (Dec. 16, 1998). The senator was Jay Rockefeller, a Democrat from West Virginia (Oct. 10, 2002).
These statements should be kept in mind when assessing the hissy fit Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid threw Tuesday when he called the Senate into secret session to discuss whether Bush administration officials had exaggerated prewar intelligence about Iraq.
Mr. Reid claimed his action was prompted by the indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, for allegedly lying to a federal grand jury about from whom he learned that Valerie Plame, the wife of Ambassador Joseph Wilson, worked for the CIA.
"The Libby indictment provides a window into what this is really all about, how this administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to sell the war in Iraq," Sen. Reid said.
But Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald had made it clear that that was not what the Libby indictment was about. "This indictment is not about the war," he said. "This indictment will not seek to prove the war was justified or unjustified."
The Iraq Survey Group found no large stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons in Iraq. This could be because no such weapons actually existed.
Or it could be because they were moved to another country between the time Congress authorized the use of force against Iraq and when the war actually began.
"We've had six or seven credible reports of Iraqi weapons being moved into Syria before the war," a senior administration official told reporter Kenneth Timmerman.
Or it could be the Iraq Survey Group had an unusually restrictive definition of what constitutes a WMD stockpile.
The 4th Infantry Division discovered in an ammo dump near the town of Baiji 55 gallon drums of chemicals which, when mixed together, form nerve gas. They were stored next to surface-to-surface missiles which had been configured to carry a liquid payload.
If prewar intelligence was faulty, the fault lies with the CIA which supplied the erroneous information, not with the political leaders, Democratic and Republican, who relied upon it.
But Democrats who had access to the same intelligence President Bush had, and who because of it voted to authorize war with Iraq, are charging now that the president deliberately deceived the nation into war.
The slender reed on which this weighty charge is hung is the credibility of Mr. Wilson, who the CIA had sent to Niger in 2002 to determine if Saddam had tried to buy uranium there.
The Senate Intelligence Committee snapped that reed when it issued its report on prewar intelligence in July of last year. The committee found unanimously that Mr. Wilson lied when he said Mr. Cheney had sent him on the mission, lied when he denied his wife had recommended him for it and lied when he said he'd found no evidence Saddam had tried to buy uranium from Niger.
Journalists who interview Mr. Wilson -- who's been enjoying a second 15 minutes of fame in the wake of the indictment of Mr. Libby -- rarely bring this up. Most think it best to ignore facts that get in the way of the story they want to tell.
The press' amnesia has convinced Democrats they can regain power by lying about prewar intelligence. But facts are stubborn things.
"The committee did not find any evidence that administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments," said the Senate Intelligence Committee.
"We conclude that it was the paucity of intelligence and poor analytical tradecraft, rather than political pressure, that produced the inaccurate pre-war intelligence assessments," said the Robb-Silberman report on WMD intelligence, issued in March. Thanks to really lousy reporting, most Americans are unaware of how much evidence there is of Saddam's WMD programs and his ties to international terror groups. This is a debate Republicans should welcome.
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#26
You answered only 1 of my questions. Are you arfraid to answer the others? And why do you insist on calling me a leftist. As I said, I voted for Badnarik. And like you stated, I don't agree with eerything from any one party, I think for myself on each issue. So unlike the ibertarian party, I think the government needs to do more to protect the environment. And I don't villify all "righties." My best friend pretty much since i'm born voted for Bush, I disagree with him but don't villify him. He can actually see the iraq war is nuts unlike you, last time I saw him he was asking why we are still there and fighting.

dirty said:
ZZ name one American that George Bush or out government has Tortured???? If you are talking about the Terrorists...they deserve everything they get....They don't have rights of US Citizens...



Nimue...What do those questions have to do with being a Libertarian....Just becuase I am a Libertarian doesn't mean I can't be a conservative....I want the Constitution Followed to the Letter of the law and Not interpreted by the Supreme court like it is now...They have already taken Away the right to Own property....And it has to stop....Do I agree with every Law that is in this Country NO....But we have to have them...I believe in Abortion and Abortion will never be taken away in this country..If the Supreme court overturns it (miniscule chance) then the states will pass laws to keep it legal....It has already been stated that would happen...


I know Tons of Conservative Libertarians...and that doesn't mean we agree with the entire Spectrum of the party...I agree with parts of all Political parties...But you fail to Read anything I post or Type other than with Disdain or contempt or Both....Like I am a Right wing Lunatic Like Pat Roberts...


You obviously Can't separate Politics from personal Life like Most leftists in this country......they don't know how to do that when they are Losing every Battle and have no Direction....They hate everything about the opposition and can't see any good in it whatsoever...Not even the Biggest One of all .....We are All Americans....Of all Races, sexes and Nationalities...I have Friends who are left wing lunatics who live and die with the Democratic party....Drink beer with them every week...doesn't mean they are bad people...I don't Villify them....I just hope the wake up before they realize it is too late and this country is Socialist...



Yall can keep attacking me all you want....Us conservative's are used to it...We have been Ridiculed and persecuted by the Leftist Socialists and Communists all thru Recent History....When the governmentis telling you How many Loaves of Bread and gallons of Milk you can buy in teh Next 30-40 years then You will wished you would have stood up against the Socialist Movement in this country.....You may not have to deal with it...but I have a 5 and a 3 year old son and several Nieces and Nephews....and I will not leave them to a country like Europe is now....A Bunch of Spineless Socialist Pigs.
 

dirty

EOG Master
#27
I did answer your question...If it is Legal By our Constitution as it was written and amended by our Forefathers then it is fine with me.....I don't have to agree with it as long as it is Constitutional....I am not wasting my time sitting here Ansering some of your questions to make you feel better about yourself....


It is not that Hard to understand....If it is Constitutunal in Our Federal Republic of Free States like our Constitution was written then I am for it...I am for Individual rights and States rights....


and go ahead and tell me and bash me for voting Republican again...It is all you seem to know how to do....
 

dirty

EOG Master
#28
And you never answer or respond to the WMD's that have been foung because you are in Denial that they exist....Becuase the Mainstream media and the Leftists don't want the truth to be found....


The truth is coming out....There were even pics of Vials of Sarin Gas in USA today last year....
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#30
Well do you think drug prohibition is constitutional? If you recall, they needed and ammendment to prohibit alcohol. Is searching someones home without a warrant when there is no immenent threat legal under the constitution? Is holding an american citizen in jail without charges or trial for years constitutional? Our governent pretty much wipes its collective ass with the constitution, especially the Bush administration.


dirty said:
I did answer your question...If it is Legal By our Constitution as it was written and amended by our Forefathers then it is fine with me.....I don't have to agree with it as long as it is Constitutional....I am not wasting my time sitting here Ansering some of your questions to make you feel better about yourself....


It is not that Hard to understand....If it is Constitutunal in Our Federal Republic of Free States like our Constitution was written then I am for it...I am for Individual rights and States rights....


and go ahead and tell me and bash me for voting Republican again...It is all you seem to know how to do....
 

dirty

EOG Master
#31
I have already answered it....You just don't want to see the answer...


Funny how you never respond to anything I post where I Expose the Liberals for what they are. You can't spin it your way when I post Factual Evidence and Resources.....:doh1


damn.....Just don't know what to do when the Truth is presented in front of you do ya...:cheers
 

Nimue77

EOG Senior Member
#32
Unreal, you still have only answered the abortion question and none of the others, yet you're chiding me for not responding to something that wasn't even a question to me.

dirty said:
I have already answered it....You just don't want to see the answer...


Funny how you never respond to anything I post where I Expose the Liberals for what they are. You can't spin it your way when I post Factual Evidence and Resources.....:doh1


damn.....Just don't know what to do when the Truth is presented in front of you do ya...:cheers
 
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