You just knew

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
That DeMarcus wasn't going to try to hit the rim in this sub 30 point combined snafu of a 4th quarter.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
That DeMarcus wasn't going to try to hit the rim in this sub 30 point combined snafu of a 4th quarter.

I'll add one more.

You just knew.................he probably has no idea what the rule is for shooters. I know it is HS but it seems like once a game as the trail ref (one not under the baseline) on a shooter's final FT attempt I call a violation on either the shooter stepping over the lane before the ball hits the rim or someone outside the 3-point line coming in before the ball hits the rim
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
The jump ball call when the ref is uncertain of a tipped ball that goes out of bounds is the ultimate fence-sitting move.

Jeff Van Gundy does a great job of discussing the last two minutes of a basketball game.

Just the other day, the final two minutes of an NBA playoff game lasted more than 33 minutes.

Ugh.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
The jump ball call when the ref is uncertain of a tipped ball that goes out of bounds is the ultimate fence-sitting move.

Jeff Van Gundy does a great job of discussing the last two minutes of a basketball game.

Just the other day, the final two minutes of an NBA playoff game lasted more than 33 minutes.

Ugh.

Which is why the Stanley Cup Playoffs are the best of any sport out there - far better than the NBA.

The final 2 minutes of a game usually takes less than 5 minutes
 
The jump ball call when the ref is uncertain of a tipped ball that goes out of bounds is the ultimate fence-sitting move.

Jeff Van Gundy does a great job of discussing the last two minutes of a basketball game.

Just the other day, the final two minutes of an NBA playoff game lasted more than 33 minutes.

Ugh.

And that's without full 4 minute breaks for timeouts near the end, most of them seem to be down to about 90 seconds if my DVR is correct. I think they should go back to having 20 second timeouts and only have them utilized in the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter. That's all the teams really need to set their strategy and move the ball to a favorable position.

The part I never get is how teams after making a shot under a minute left and still trailing need to call a timeout just to set things up. If players were half as smart as players in any other sport they'd have drilled into them a set of situational "plays" and the coach should just call them out. One could be foul as soon as possible, two could be wait until they cross midcourt and then foul, three could be straight up D...and so forth. And every player should know their role in coverage like an NFL player would for defensive plays. Having to sit players down for a minute and reminding them of their roles and telling them how to cover players, how many timeouts they have, who should foul, etc just screams NBA players are dumbasses despite making more money than players in any other sport.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Since the inception of basketball when a defensive player pokes the ball out of the dribblers
hands auto to the ball handlers team. Now a issue. They spend 15 minutes trying to determine
if the ball handler micro grazed the ball before it went out of bounds. Nuts

Rightfully, refs didn't review it again the other night.
 
Since the inception of basketball when a defensive player pokes the ball out of the dribblers
hands auto to the ball handlers team. Now a issue. They spend 15 minutes trying to determine
if the ball handler micro grazed the ball before it went out of bounds. Nuts

Rightfully, refs didn't review it again the other night.

Yeah that is insanity. Plus that it happens only in the end game is annoying. Yeah to the viewer possession seems to matter more at the end of the game, but possessions and points are the same all 48 minutes. Its like fans obsessing over MLB team losses in September when teams botched games in April and May with no sense of consequence at the time.
 

IWishIWasAPro

EOG Master
Since the inception of basketball when a defensive player pokes the ball out of the dribblers
hands auto to the ball handlers team. Now a issue. They spend 15 minutes trying to determine
if the ball handler micro grazed the ball before it went out of bounds. Nuts

Rightfully, refs didn't review it again the other night.

AND SOMETIMES AFTER 15 MINUTES THEY STILL GET IT WRONG!
 
The jump ball call when the ref is uncertain of a tipped ball that goes out of bounds is the ultimate fence-sitting move.

Jeff Van Gundy does a great job of discussing the last two minutes of a basketball game.

Just the other day, the final two minutes of an NBA playoff game lasted more than 33 minutes.

Ugh.
Van Gundy hugs the company line as tightly as Alonzo Mournings leg.

His non stop whining of calls against LAC Saturday was hard to listen to.
 
Since the inception of basketball when a defensive player pokes the ball out of the dribblers
hands auto to the ball handlers team. Now a issue. They spend 15 minutes trying to determine
if the ball handler micro grazed the ball before it went out of bounds. Nuts

Rightfully, refs didn't review it again the other night.
100% correct. The league just invented a new way to rig playoff games out of thin air with this new “interpretation” of a rule.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Since the inception of basketball when a defensive player pokes the ball out of the dribblers
hands auto to the ball handlers team. Now a issue. They spend 15 minutes trying to determine
if the ball handler micro grazed the ball before it went out of bounds. Nuts

Rightfully, refs didn't review it again the other night.


Virginia clinched the NCAA title in 2019 when there was a fingertip call that went against Texas Tech.

DeAndre Hunter made the great defensive play in the open court.

Searching for more details now.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member

At the 1:31.00 mark, Moretti's pinkie touched the ball last when Hunter's finger was away from the ball.

CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore initially thought Texas Tech would maintain possession of the ball.

Not the case.

At the time of the critical play, Virginia led 75-73 in overtime with 1:06 left on the clock.

Instead of TT ball, Virginia gained possession.

Final score: Virginia 85 Texas Tech 77.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Virginia clinched the NCAA title in 2019 when there was a fingertip call that went against Texas Tech.

DeAndre Hunter made the great defensive play in the open court.

Searching for more details now.
Don't forget the DOUBLE DRIBBLE not called against UVA on the last second game tying basket. Call DD like it should have been called and Auburn plays Texass Tech in the Finals
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
With basketball replay, we've lost the organic flow of late-game action.

I slightly prefer the product before the age of replay.

If you don't separate from your opponent until the final minute of the game, you run the risk of being victimized by a poor call.

We once called that circumstance "the breaks of the game."
 
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