I remember growing up and hearing about manager Gene Mauch winning a lot of games but never winning a pennant, let alone a World Series.
Great coaches to never win a ring?
Great coaches to never win a ring?
Best professional sports coach to never win a championship
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Heim
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.483 winning percentage.....yikes!
.483 winning percentage.....yikes!
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I remember his tough stances on braving the cold outdoors in Minneapolis.
In hindsight, maybe some gloves and hand warmers would have been the way to go.
I remember his tough stances on braving the cold outdoors in Minneapolis.
In hindsight, maybe some gloves and hand warmers would have been the way to go.
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How did Gene Mauch get so much love from the writers and broadcasters of the time?
He managed for nearly three decades.
Mauch loved "small ball" and he's credited by some for creating the now-popular "double-switch."
How did Gene Mauch get so much love from the writers and broadcasters of the time?
He managed for nearly three decades.
Mauch loved "small ball" and he's credited by some for creating the now-popular "double-switch."
kane
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kane
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Sam Wyche? no chance, for his career the guy was 84-107, good for a .440 winning percentage, in his 12 year coaching career he made the playoffs twice
Sam Wyche? no chance, for his career the guy was 84-107, good for a .440 winning percentage, in his 12 year coaching career he made the playoffs twice
Don Eagleston
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John, I immediately thought of Gene Mauch when you posed the queston. He literally taught me baseball watching and listening to Phillies games. It appears that Mauch invented the double switch and he certainly perfected it. Mauch moved the Phillies bullpen from left to right field so that the bullpen coach could determine whether a ball was going to hit the right field "Spite Fence" and wave a towel to assist the base runner and base coaches if that was the case. One Sunday doubleheader I watched Mauch race out of the dugout to require the Dodgers to remove laboring starting pitcher Joe Moeller on the second visit to the mound that inning. There was nobody warming up. Mauch's weakness was that he tended to over-manage in crucial situations, but he was playing with a relatively weak hand talent wise. Mauch certainly belongs in the Hall for his contributions to game, despite a losing record and no championships, instead of the relatively dim-witted Walter Alston who had great talent and ownership patience.
John, I immediately thought of Gene Mauch when you posed the queston. He literally taught me baseball watching and listening to Phillies games. It appears that Mauch invented the double switch and he certainly perfected it. Mauch moved the Phillies bullpen from left to right field so that the bullpen coach could determine whether a ball was going to hit the right field "Spite Fence" and wave a towel to assist the base runner and base coaches if that was the case. One Sunday doubleheader I watched Mauch race out of the dugout to require the Dodgers to remove laboring starting pitcher Joe Moeller on the second visit to the mound that inning. There was nobody warming up. Mauch's weakness was that he tended to over-manage in crucial situations, but he was playing with a relatively weak hand talent wise. Mauch certainly belongs in the Hall for his contributions to game, despite a losing record and no championships, instead of the relatively dim-witted Walter Alston who had great talent and ownership patience.
Crazy Pete
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Bum Phillips
Bum Phillips
kane
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Both of these are good, although one of them won't be on this list eventually
Both of these are good, although one of them won't be on this list eventually
kane
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Brian brought his A game, two more good nominees
Brian brought his A game, two more good nominees
unluckysob
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NFC was just better in those days.
NFC was just better in those days.
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The D-backs won after Showalter left and so too did the New York Yankees.
Some claim Buck set the foundation, others claim he was the force holding back his teams.
I prefer the former explanation.
Buck has won the AL Manager of the Year award three times with three different teams (Yanks in '94, Rangers in '04 and Orioles in '14).
The D-backs won after Showalter left and so too did the New York Yankees.
Some claim Buck set the foundation, others claim he was the force holding back his teams.
I prefer the former explanation.
Buck has won the AL Manager of the Year award three times with three different teams (Yanks in '94, Rangers in '04 and Orioles in '14).
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Thanks for your insight, Don.
Thanks for your insight, Don.
kane
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That's pretty impressive, and check out the O's record in the years leading up to him getting hired, and their record since he's been there. I agree with you, I would go with the setting the foundation
That's pretty impressive, and check out the O's record in the years leading up to him getting hired, and their record since he's been there. I agree with you, I would go with the setting the foundation
trytrytry
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the dallas game in 77 they cheated on that Hail Mary
we did not lose too many home playoff games
the dallas game in 77 they cheated on that Hail Mary
TheGuesser
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Marty Schott. You could see the guy visibly wilt in the playoffs, playing not to lose, as opposed to the regular season playing to win:
Marty Schottenheimer
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Marty Schott. You could see the guy visibly wilt in the playoffs, playing not to lose, as opposed to the regular season playing to win:
Marty Schottenheimer
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Regular season:
200–126–1 (.613)
Postseason:
6–13 (.316)
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railbird
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my gf dad was on his staff, great guy
my gf dad was on his staff, great guy
Brayden11
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Agree with Nellie. Bucks had some very good teams in the 80's but just couldn't get by Philly or Boston.
Agree with Nellie. Bucks had some very good teams in the 80's but just couldn't get by Philly or Boston.
Woodrow Wilson
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Pete Rose
Pete Rose
El Chapo
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3 near misses.
The epic collapse of the '64 Phillies and 2 deciding-game losses in the ALCS.
Lost in 5 in '82 (after leading 2-0 in the Series) and 7 in '86 (blew a 3-1 Series lead and lost Game 5 in Anaheim after taking a 5-2 lead into the 9th, the game that he was on the top step of the dugout, one strike away from the WS before Donnie Moore surrendered a backbreaking 2-out 2 run hr).
3 near misses.
3 near misses.
The epic collapse of the '64 Phillies and 2 deciding-game losses in the ALCS.
Lost in 5 in '82 (after leading 2-0 in the Series) and 7 in '86 (blew a 3-1 Series lead and lost Game 5 in Anaheim after taking a 5-2 lead into the 9th, the game that he was on the top step of the dugout, one strike away from the WS before Donnie Moore surrendered a backbreaking 2-out 2 run hr).
3 near misses.
Sportsrmylife
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Jerry Sloan is a great example.
Jerry Sloan is a great example.
kane
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I remember that HR, Dave Henderson I believe hit it, then Donnie Moore killed himself
I remember that HR, Dave Henderson I believe hit it, then Donnie Moore killed himself
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Showalter is a top 5 manager in MLB.
Showalter is a top 5 manager in MLB.
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You saying Pearson pushed off? Actually you might be correct on that.
You saying Pearson pushed off? Actually you might be correct on that.
Viejo Dinosaur
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Gene Mauch ruined my childhood.....especially in 1964.....
Gene Mauch ruined my childhood.....especially in 1964.....
El Chapo
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The Curse of Chico Ruiz.
unluckysob
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They were first team to play that way. I used to wonder, how does this team ever lose. Defense was decent, but they did not have a clue how to control clock.
They were first team to play that way. I used to wonder, how does this team ever lose. Defense was decent, but they did not have a clue how to control clock.