Antigua gets F ucked.....
Stay tuned for details...
THE SHRINK
Stay tuned for details...
THE SHRINK
TomBrady,
The US didn't decide the penalties...
It was the WTO who did...
They didn't even get back their legal fee investment. Fives years for this shitty award..................The DOJ is laughing their ass off this morning
It's ok......if I was Antigua now I would use that 21 million to the limit. I would offer a download of brand new movies that normally sell in stores for 20 to 25 dollars online at only 25 cents a pop.
how do they determine the 21 million ? retail value ?
I agree we can still get action, Nick, but that law killed off Pinnacle and Neteller, making all our lives infinitely more difficult and less prosperous. I also agree with your first statement. These agreements/rulings sound the death knell for any progress on the offshore gaming front until at least 2009, if then.It seems we have gone through this long enough. I can see things changing only when a new administration comes into place, which will be in a little over a year. While we lost some very good offshore books, we all seem to still be able to get action with some good books. Maybe Im just being a simpleton.
Agreed, Nick, I am only into this since April 2002. The first money move I made was WU. If CC's hadn't taken my deposits shortly thereafter, I don't think I'd still be playing. I remember thinking it was absurd to have to pay $ to send money to play at a sportsbook.Yes Munson, our lives are more difficult, and for those players that arent just the recreational type like myself, Im sure its much more difficult. But I still remember the days we had to send overnight FedEx money orders and just used the phone. We have taken a giant step back, but this law has not curbed offshore gambling one iota.
If Antigua sells US copyrighted music, software, and movies American citizens who buy them will be exposed to getting sued for possessing said pirated material!
Antiguans would be able to buy them legally. And citizens of countries other than the US could purchase them without concern (only because they are outside of the reach of the RIAA, MPAA, etc).
US citizens on the other hand, if caught with pirated material, might just get sued by the American copyright owners. WTO be damned.
So, for US citizens, downloading Antiguan .mp3s or buying twenty-five cent American movies is still going to carry the same consequences as it always has (not that that has stopped anyone!)
This I believe to be true (though I Am Not A Lawyer).
21 million is alo of money!TomBrady,
The US didn't decide the penalties...
It was the WTO who did...
Amsterdam, you are misinformed. Purchases of goods from foreign countries are absolutely legal provided said purchase does not constitute a US copyright or trademark infringement.If Antigua sells US copyrighted music, software, and movies American citizens who buy them will be exposed to getting sued for possessing said pirated material!
Amsterdam, you are misinformed. Purchases of goods from foreign countries are absolutely legal provided said purchase does not constitute a US copyright or trademark infringement.
No Judger, you are misinformed. The question of copyright or trademark arises in the country in which the material or mark is being used. Practically every country has a bilateral agreement with the United States regarding copyrights and trademarks and patents. If Holland, for instance, starts importing pirate goods from Antigua, it will be in violation of its agreements with the US. If a Dutch citizen returns from Antigua with a pirated copy of Microsoft Office, it will likely be seized. It may be legal in Antigua, but it isn't legal anywhere else. The WTO didn't allow Holland to ignore copyright and trademark and patent. America can, and will, lay the hammer down hard on any other country which allows distribution of these pirate goods within its borders. For instance, it can stop mail going to and coming from those countries in a real fuck you buddy scenario. Yes, Antigua can ignore American copyrights and patents and trademarks within its own boundaries, and up to a value each year of $21 million. That's what the deal really is. And only if we don't pay them the $21 million. If Antigua pisses off the US too much, the US will decide to strip search every tourist returning from Antigua. End of tourism industry. Antigua was a very poor choice of "country" to try and make this case. Let's face it, it's a corrupt shithole licensing some of the biggest crooks in the industry.
No Judger, you are misinformed. The question of copyright or trademark arises in the country in which the material or mark is being used. Practically every country has a bilateral agreement with the United States regarding copyrights and trademarks and patents. If Holland, for instance, starts importing pirate goods from Antigua, it will be in violation of its agreements with the US. If a Dutch citizen returns from Antigua with a pirated copy of Microsoft Office, it will likely be seized. It may be legal in Antigua, but it isn't legal anywhere else. The WTO didn't allow Holland to ignore copyright and trademark and patent. America can, and will, lay the hammer down hard on any other country which allows distribution of these pirate goods within its borders. For instance, it can stop mail going to and coming from those countries in a real fuck you buddy scenario. Yes, Antigua can ignore American copyrights and patents and trademarks within its own boundaries, and up to a value each year of $21 million. That's what the deal really is. And only if we don't pay them the $21 million. If Antigua pisses off the US too much, the US will decide to strip search every tourist returning from Antigua. End of tourism industry. Antigua was a very poor choice of "country" to try and make this case. Let's face it, it's a corrupt shithole licensing some of the biggest crooks in the industry.
... America can, and will, lay the hammer down hard on any other country which allows distribution of these pirate goods within its borders. For instance, it can stop mail going to and coming from those countries in a real fuck you buddy scenario. Yes, Antigua can ignore American copyrights and patents and trademarks within its own boundaries, and up to a value each year of $21 million. That's what the deal really is. And only if we don't pay them the $21 million. If Antigua pisses off the US too much, the US will decide to strip search every tourist returning from Antigua. End of tourism industry. ...