Easystreet reply to Cory

Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

Only an idiot would take a bonus @ 5 dimes.. No serious gambler would take a bonus there.

not once you learn the ropes there, Gabe ! I had that talk with Tony long ago, took a bonus and my -105 limits were cut to $50, talked to him and he restored the $500 limit as long as I don't take a bonus. BP operates in similar fashion, bonus = full vig.

Bonus game ended years ago really, back with Neteller....in those days even C books could sort of be depended on to pay you 1k in a week or so , but not 50k !
 

Mr. Smith

EOG Master
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

EZ St don't want Shackleford and Dancer, 2 actual unbiased experts on casino gambling, odds and video poker, coming within 1000 feet of this stinkbomb they released. whole thing has been a joke the way it was handled from the get go.

RX was dumb to attach their name to that idiotic "expert" report which was laughably STUPID
 

Herbie

EOG Addicted
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

For whatever reason they are convinced this Cory is a cheat and have refused to pay. They are a credit shop and maybe should stay in the credit business and stay away from the post up side of the business. Evidently, they could care less about the 3 or 4 washboards that have the same 25 people talking negative about them. These 3 or 4 washboards are not going to hurt their business one iota. How many customers do you think the RX, EOG, SBR, MAJOR WAGER etc. really bring them. 90% of the posters on these washboards are employees of the same sportsbooks that advertise with them. The other 10% really don't add up to a very big customer base even if every poster became one of their customers.

I know most of you have taken the players side of the story but he is a proven cheat and chargeback artist. They should have never let the guy play but they did. If he would have lost they would have kept his deposits but if he used a credit card he was charging back anyway.

Personally I think Cory is a scumbag cheat and EZ should have stopped his play long before he hit those royals. They will use other sources to generate customers for their post up operation and they will continue their operations and all the washboards that hate them today will gladly accept their advertising dollars come football season.

I can think about 46,000 reasons why they are refusing to pay...
 

Bucky

EOG Dedicated
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

Let's not forget EZStreet wanted an apology from Cory to Wilhelm!
 

FISHHEAD

EOG Master
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

Let's not forget EZStreet wanted an apology from Cory to Wilhelm!
Unreal, Wil made a fool of himself in this charade, and it cost him his job.

I think Wilheim is a decent fella, just out of his element here.
 
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

What was the real deal here?

Altho Cory had some black marks against him in the past,he posted up and they just stiffed him.
They claim he used a bot,this makes no sense really,if he had automated software that allowed him to play quicker,he would just lose quicker(if the VP was below 100% payback obvs)..it all stinks of shit altho I wasnt around at the time.

"Fly to Costa Rica & take a polygraph test" :LMAO:LMAO
 

Bucky

EOG Dedicated
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

It was an interesting read. So many fingers in the pie. A great illustration of two wrongs do not make a right. Easy Street was not on the ball and Cory really hammered them. Easy Street should not have been dealing a game for big bucks if they did not have that kind of expertise or deep pockets. Cory should not have butchered them for more than 15 k and he probably collects it. Ultimately, they both suffered as a result. Easy Street tanks and the rest of casino land is aware of Cory.
 
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

What was the real deal here?

Altho Cory had some black marks against him in the past,he posted up and they just stiffed him.
They claim he used a bot,this makes no sense really,if he had automated software that allowed him to play quicker,he would just lose quicker(if the VP was below 100% payback obvs)..it all stinks of shit altho I wasnt around at the time.

"Fly to Costa Rica & take a polygraph test" :LMAO:LMAO

I can't figure out how to search my old posts by keyword, but if you're able to find my old posts from that time, I had a few decent summaries of the situation. It was one of the most absurd fiascos I've seen in my 20+ years on gambling forums.

The most absurd part is that the RX, a forum that's promoted stiff/scam sportsbooks for years, actually invented a fake "anonymous mathematical expert" to weigh in, and from an old thread I found I saw that I mentioned there were at least 7 lies in that post. The post I found didn't list the specific lies, but the one lie I recall was that the RX claimed "Cory never took a break after hitting a royal." When the play logs were posted without the specific cards shown, it was revealed that while he played the next hand after hitting the royal, he did take long breaks the hand after that, which is indicative of someone playing fast enough that he hits "deal" before his mind processes the result of the previous hand, which is completely reasonable. Another lie I recall is that they claimed he hit 3 royals in 8000 hands, but that was by ignoring the sessions where he didn't hit a royal; the actual figure was 3 in 22,000 hands. The RX scumbag mod Wilhelm claimed "I worked in Vegas for many years and never once saw anyone hit that many royals" and the fake "mathematical expert" claimed hitting royals at that rate was a mathematical impossibility. Considering the expected rate of a royal in that game was around 1 in 40,000, as I recall the true odds of hitting that many royals was around 1 in 50, or not impossible at all.

Re: the bot accusations, as I recall EZ Street was offering him enough of a deposit bonus that the game was +EV, so he would have had an advantage playing faster, but there was no evidence he ever used a bot. I'ts a simple way for a shit book to scam, offer a big deposit bonus and then if the player gets lucky and hits multiple royals, find an excuse to stiff them. Some sportsbooks use this one too; you can afford to give ridiculous deposit bonuses if you stiff the 1% of your biggest winners.
His play rate wasn't absurdly fast for an online game, the time between hands varied a fair bit, and they claimed he "played 8 hours straight without any strategy errors" but never actually showed the logs with the cards so that someone could verify whether he actually made errors.

The particular game he was playing, there's a basic strategy and then several exceptions for penalty cards that add about 0.02% to your return, so for a lot of players it's simpler to just use the basic strategy rather than memorize the penalty card exceptions just to add 0.02%. I asked numerous times in the threads whether or not Cory's "perfect strategy" included the penalty card exceptions and got crickets.
 

Mr. Smith

EOG Master
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

death throes for RX and scummy offshore sportsbooks. EZ Street didnt want to pay, RX was desperate to keep a sponsor
 
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

It was an interesting read. So many fingers in the pie. A great illustration of two wrongs do not make a right. Easy Street was not on the ball and Cory really hammered them. Easy Street should not have been dealing a game for big bucks if they did not have that kind of expertise or deep pockets. Cory should not have butchered them for more than 15 k and he probably collects it. Ultimately, they both suffered as a result. Easy Street tanks and the rest of casino land is aware of Cory.

It's not "wrong" to win 46k in an online casino, and only at the shittiest of the shit books should one be worried about a balance of that size. You could be right that he should have known EZ Street fell into that shitty category, but it's certainly not "wrong" to expect a book to pay a winner.
 

Bucky

EOG Dedicated
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It is really hard to tell the difference between "money is good" , money should be good" and "money might be good". I believe in taking a withdrawal or two around 5k just to see if they squeak?

I still strongly believe EZ would have paid the first 15K. None of us know exactly what the balance sheet looks like at these places similar to what insurance companies have to report each year, etc. That would be a nice tool.

How big is your list of offshore casinos that would have cheerfully paid this 46k had you won it there? No pissing,moaning,bitching, complaining, or slow pays. No investigations into software flaws - no - you must be crooked to beat us because no honest many can do that - wire is there within 7 days after the win.
 

Bucky

EOG Dedicated
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

I don't disagree with you and Grooving. The casino has all the time in the world to test the software. If the game cannot beat a bot - do not offer the game. It is like the bad line rule in sports books. Hello, bad line - bad game - everybody should get their money back that played the game??? They were essentially playing a game they could not win a jackpot on so the odds were way off.

So, all I am trying to say is there is a big difference between the theory world and and the right to win and the real world where it boils down to what we can actually collect.
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

Other than Wil the next biggest supporter of stealing the players money was BoatBoatBoat. Fought day and night for EZStreet....

Short time later he was gifted with an all expense trip to Costa Rica by the same book.

Other than Wil there was no bigger and more obvious agenda.

Now you know why a lot of people refuse to post at that dump he owns.

Gee, I wonder who else owns a piece of that place?
 
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

Other than Wil the next biggest supporter of stealing the players money was BoatBoatBoat. Fought day and night for EZStreet....

Short time later he was gifted with an all expense trip to Costa Rica by the same book.

Other than Wil there was no bigger and more obvious agenda.

Now you know why a lot of people refuse to post at that dump he owns.

Gee, I wonder who else owns a piece of that place?
Pat
How can any logically thinking man have sided with easystreet ? was boat on the sheet from somehwere for easystreet ?
 
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

It is really hard to tell the difference between "money is good" , money should be good" and "money might be good". I believe in taking a withdrawal or two around 5k just to see if they squeak?

I still strongly believe EZ would have paid the first 15K. None of us know exactly what the balance sheet looks like at these places similar to what insurance companies have to report each year, etc. That would be a nice tool.

How big is your list of offshore casinos that would have cheerfully paid this 46k had you won it there? No pissing,moaning,bitching, complaining, or slow pays. No investigations into software flaws - no - you must be crooked to beat us because no honest many can do that - wire is there within 7 days after the win.

There's a difference between "that was ill advised" and "two wrongs don't make a right." If I walk alone at night in a not too safe neighborhood wearing an expensive watch and leather jacket and get robbed, that was likely ill advised of me, but no judge is going to say "two wrongs don't make a right" in the mugger's trial.

I don't know anything about EZ Street's history of payments, but in this instance, when you're taking advantage of a profitable bonus, you don't want to draw attention to yourself, and it's also possible they'd have just stiffed him on one royal once someone noticed the generous bonuses he was getting. It's hard to say what the best way to attack the bonus was.

It also greatly depends on the size of Cory's bankroll. If some new sportsbook pops up on the forums offering a ridiculous bonus, like these books that offer a 100% bonus with a small rollover, that's very unlikely to be a long term successful business model particularly if they have soft lines. But it might be worth my time to send them a few thousand and see if I can cash out before they go under. However for a forum poster with a bankroll of $5000, it would be a terrible idea to send them a $2000 deposit or whatever. I have no idea how large Cory's bankroll was.
 
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

I don't disagree with you and Grooving. The casino has all the time in the world to test the software. If the game cannot beat a bot - do not offer the game. It is like the bad line rule in sports books. Hello, bad line - bad game - everybody should get their money back that played the game??? They were essentially playing a game they could not win a jackpot on so the odds were way off.

The deposit bonus he was getting was +EV but as I recall it wasn't ridiculously +EV such that it was an "obvious bad line." At one point a while back 5Dimes was offering FPDW which pays 100.76% at rather high denominations, and they actually did pay out everyone I knew that played. I passed since I was afraid Toni would just freeroll me.
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
Re: Easystreet reply to Cory

Pat
How can any logically thinking man have sided with easystreet ? was boat on the sheet from somehwere for easystreet ?


While his agenda wasn't as obvious as Wil's let's just say he had/has a vested interest in that opinion.

And whether he's that stupid or that stubborn is debatable but to this very day he insists he had it right!!??

Incredible.
 
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