"Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: "Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

I believe I've said this in about four different threads, he makes his money betting QTR lines period... he's not even in the same sentence as the Englishman, the Rushians, the Chinaman, and BW, they are the one's that ORIGINATE games and WIN, Fezzik has NEVER been an ORIGINATOR on the SIDES or TOTALS..... you are not going to beat him on the QTR lines, but the games he is a NOBODY and it has NOTHING to do with being JEALOUS, its a FACT........
 
Re: "Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

The bet did not win, but Fezz gave out +3 +100. The line then moved to 2 or 2.5 depending on your books. I'll happily take +3 +100 and -2 -114 on every NFL game.
This was not a bad bet, no matter how much I thought NE was the right side (and posted this at LVA before the game). I still had some +3

+3 +100 as "widely available" is a joke since Greek never had better than +3 -110 and Bookmaker never had better than +3 -105 on Thursday, but in any case, the market shit all over his play after he released it. Pinnacle had +3 -103 when he gave out the play on Thursday, and they had as good as +3 -106 available 45 minutes before kickoff, so the "he got the best of the market" argument doesn't even hold water.
 

Bagiant

EOG Dedicated
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I wonder how many of you out there has won hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past couple of years. I know that Fezz has.
 

BigDaddy

EOG Master
Re: "Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

I wonder how many of you out there has won hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past couple of years. I know that Fezz has.

this is all that ever gets said over and over and over.

i guess moneymaker still has all of his winnings as well:LMAO
 

TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
Re: "Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

I wonder how many of you out there has won hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past couple of years. I know that Fezz has.


hERE IS THE GUY WHO SAID THE BEARS WHERE THE RIGHT SIDE AND GREAT PLAY. Any further comments from you Baggiant?
 

TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
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+3 +100 as "widely available" is a joke since Greek never had better than +3 -110 and Bookmaker never had better than +3 -105 on Thursday, but in any case, the market shit all over his play after he released it. Pinnacle had +3 -103 when he gave out the play on Thursday, and they had as good as +3 -106 available 45 minutes before kickoff, so the "he got the best of the market" argument doesn't even hold water.

I noticed the same thing. The market did crap all over his play but his DONKEY supporters come in here and try to spin it differently. IF you sincerely think the Bears are the right side afte this game then you should not be gambling. Nice work and points Groovin.
 

E-Money712

EOG Senior Member
Re: "Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

Fezzik is strictly a numbers player! He takes advantage of lines that he believes were either under or over valued in relation to key numbers. With this said, Fezzik rarely cares for the "RIGHT SIDE" so long as he has the better value on the line. What he is also known for is hedging. He will take a good line, especially lines he believes will get hammered by the public, and once the line crosses a key number he will "FADE THE STEAM!" How do you go wrong doing this? You either lose juice or win 2 units of play! So if Fezzik has an ability that can be praised, it is his anticipation of line moves. Other than that, he is probably just a sports better like me and you!

With that said, since he is playing the mathematical/statistic game, recursion to the mean is probably what is happening to him this year giving out bagels! WIN SOME, LOSE SOME! Unfortunately for Fezzik is recursion is happening in a whole year!
 

TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
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I forgot to mention that another selection from the FRAUD. Here it is for your viewing pleasure from this past Saturday, In case you are not sure..IT LOST. Surprising I know.

520 LOU 1h -135 greek, 1 weight
<HR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Early start time for road weary Rebels.....gotta think Lou is the right side here early, ml too low here.
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TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
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Good work Brady, appreciate the heads up. 91023i2ndw;l

not too many can win the war of words like Pat McIrish. You are blessed in that area, Pat. Tampa is playing well. Tough loss last week to the Falcons. THat coach not going for it on 4th and 1/2 yard was WRONG in my opinion. Great game and good young team.
 

Richie La Manna

EOG Enthusiast
Re: "Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

against the best ???
The best cappers in the world don't enter the hilton contest.....Touts do though lol
 

PerpetualCzech

EOG Addicted
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Time to start shitting on Alf now?

Alf rode into town 20 years ago and today finds himself as 2nd man on a $25/month failing website. Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture?

Nobody gets this. After not long, the longer some "betting expert" remains in the public eye trying to convince you he's good, the more obvious it is he can't make it on his own. Anyone with any clue about how geometric growth of your bankroll knows this.

I can understand some young superstar going this route that's starting out needing a boost to his bankroll. Still barking up this tree after 10+ years? Sorry Alf, Fezzik, Bryan Leonard, James Manos, Andy Iskoe, et al ... you've long since tipped your hand by now. If your own betting hasn't propelled you to a place where you don't need to tout your "expertise" to the masses anymore to earn your nut, it should be pretty obvious that your personal betting isn't covering your expenses. What should your clients think about this?
 

Mr. Smith

EOG Master
Re: "Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

what about repeatedly taking the time to lash out when no one cares about your own dead forum? what does that say about you?
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: "Fezzik the Fraud's" Sunday plays.....

Alf rode into town 20 years ago and today finds himself as 2nd man on a $25/month failing website. Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture?

Nobody gets this. After not long, the longer some "betting expert" remains in the public eye trying to convince you he's good, the more obvious it is he can't make it on his own. Anyone with any clue about how geometric growth of your bankroll knows this.

I can understand some young superstar going this route that's starting out needing a boost to his bankroll. Still barking up this tree after 10+ years? Sorry Alf, Fezzik, Bryan Leonard, James Manos, Andy Iskoe, et al ... you've long since tipped your hand by now. If your own betting hasn't propelled you to a place where you don't need to tout your "expertise" to the masses anymore to earn your nut, it should be pretty obvious that your personal betting isn't covering your expenses. What should your clients think about this?
Fezzik wins betting the QTR lines, I know this for a FACT, but he's no ORIGINATOR... he NEVER was one, I know every single one that ORIGINATES games and TRUST me he's NOT ONE, I have no reason to be JEALOUS over anyone period... I wish one person would come in here to prove me WRONG about this, if they are thinking about the Colts and Tennesee game last Thursday, he wasn't the one that ORIGINATED that game, they bet that game with us way before his post on the front page, and I have the PROOF.... Fezzik is tough to beat on QTR lines and futures but not the game lines...
 
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Time to start shitting on Alf now?

Sure, I'll gladly "shit on" any fraud selling his advice claiming to be some sort of expert. The most ridiculous example, a couple weeks ago he gave out Tampa Bay +9 claiming they were the "ultimate backdoor team" and mentioned how the Giants secondary would have trouble stopping them, that TB's QB was better than Eli Manning, etc. The problem was that TB wasn't playing NYG, they were playing Baltimore! When his error was pointed out, he revised the writeup to explain why TB was actually a good pick vs Baltimore. Nevermind that TB hadn't had a backdoor cover all year; every game they'd either won outright or got blown out.

He also badly inflates his record through the use of stale lines. When I was paying attention to his picks (mostly CBB, a little NBA), it was pretty common that he'd post plays in the middle of the night after they'd moved everywhere, for ex. he'd post some CBB team +6.5 when Pinnacle had +6.5 -118, Greek had +6, Cris had +6, and just about everywhere else with overnight CBB had +6. Or he'd simply post hours after every book had moved their line, claiming the old line. In the couple of months I was paying attention to his picks, I specifically noticed 2 CBB games out of maybe 40 total where the bogus half point turned a loss into a push or a push into a win. Getting an undeserved win 5% of the time turns a coin flipper into a 55% handicapper.

And he's still up to his old tricks, PC posted an example to RTP a couple weeks ago in some Bears game, I think @ the Lions, where Alf claimed -3 -120 when all of the major books had -3 -135 or worse for the last several hours before his post (so it's not like the line had just moved minutes before and the line moved while he was writing his post), and there were a few other cases posted where he posted lines that hadn't been available for days. Alf worked for Vegas Insider for years who also practice similar grade inflation, which I discussed at length of the old LVA board when I was researching James Manos's record, so a Vegas Insider "documented record" is garbage. But Anthony Curtis has no problem advertising "Alf Musketa's record" on LVA's site, using the Vegas Insider garbage record. Yet Anthony claims record keeping is a "waste of time." Go figure. I guess record keeping is a "waste of time" when people want to know exactly how they'll do while following a tout's plays vs widely available numbers, not against fairy tale lines that haven't existed for hours, if not days.
 

TomBrady#1

EOG Dedicated
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Groovin good points but Fezzik is the biggest fraud of them all. He is refusing to even pick many games in the only fuckin sport that he does. HE DOES NOT DO HOOPS OR BASES. WHat real pro does not do hoops and/or bases? He does not even want to pick the games at this point. Dan Gordon is having a pretty good year and he btw he is Fezziks former business patner and he came up with the nickname "Fezzik the Fraud". He says more about Fezzik than anyone. Fezzik says nobody can win this year. If he can't do it then nobody can. LOL. What a fraud.
 
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