Immigration March --- A few Libertarian Comments

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THE INVASION FORCE SHOWS ITSELF. Well, you saw them for yourselves. Hundreds of thousands of Hispanics, most of them Mexican, marching in American cities across the country. This was called an "immigration march," though most of those marching weren't immigrants.
Here are some loosely structured thoughts on what we saw yesterday, and what is to come:
Did you know that one in ten Mexicans now living who were born in Mexico are now in the United States? Eighty-five percent of them are here illegally. Of those marching yesterday, it is estimated that 80% of them were Mexicans, and the vast majority of them were here illegally.
Many of the invasion marchers were carrying signs. Let's take a look at a few of them:
No human is illegal Quite right. Being a human is not illegal. Humans take actions that are illegal. Coming to this country and then staying here without abiding with our laws is illegal. Their actions are illegal.
Today we march. Tomorrow we vote! And don't the Democrats know it! Why do you think Ted Kennedy and Hillary were in full pandering mode yesterday? Remember, there are movements in areas of Hispanic population concentration for giving non-citizens the vote in local elections. In New York City there are calls for allowing illegal aliens to vote. After the next amnesty agreement the pressure will be on to get these Hispanics, citizens and non-citizens, to the polls.
We are America You are NOT America, neither do you want to be. America is citizens and legal residents who recognize and appreciate our rule of law, and who make every effort to abide by those laws.
We are not criminals Yes you are. You violated the law when you crossed the border. You violated the law when you remained in this country. You violated the law when you obtained a job in this country. You continue to violate the law every day you are here. What is a criminal if not someone who violates the law? Deal with it ... you're criminals.
Unions were heavily involved in yesterday's demonstrations. They're looking for something that will bring them more members. Members = power. Jamie Contreras is a spokesman for the Service Employees International Union. Contreras said: "The immigrant sleeping giant is now wide awake. People are paying very close attention to the attacks that are happening, both in the Senate and in the House. We're fed up. We're tired. We're here to show our strength in numbers." Now .. did you hear that "people are paying close attention to the attacks that are happening ... " line? What's he talking about? He's talking about people, both in our Congress and in the general population who are asking that our laws be enforced and our borders controlled. These words, according to Contreras, are "attacks."
Another protestor said that "This is America's genocide." Oh how they love to throw those explosive words around. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group. Genocide? Hardly.
Politicians were at these demonstrations, of course. Most of them were Democrats, of course. Hillary Clinton said: "Your faces are the faces of America. Now isn't that special! Hillary Clinton believes that people who violate our laws and invade our country are the face of America. What kind of America is she talking about? Maybe one day we'll find out. Ted Kennedy was there too, acting the fool: "Do you love America?" he said. Then he stood there waving his clenched hands in a victory gesture. What are these illegal aliens going to say? No? Not one of these politicians at the demonstrations had anything to say about the American people. Citizens born here and those who came legally to become citizens were the forgotten people yesterday.
You did notice that there were no Mexican flags, didn't you? When demonstrators arrived they were handed American flags by organizers, along with those "We are America" signs. They were told to put their Mexican flags away. What you saw yesterday was a fraud.
Ron Maxwell is a Hollywood director and is not happy with what he saw yesterday. He's preparing a film dealing with illegal aliens and their invasion of this country. Maxwell, interviewed on Fox News Channel, said that this is all part of a plot by the elites of Mexico and the United States Congress to change the social face of America. It's an invasion. Twenty or thirty years from now there will be a movement to make the Southwestern US the northern province of Mexico. These people have no desire to assimilate. They will soon show their separatist feelings, much like the French-Canadians in Quebec.
Maxwell points out that the figure we keep hearing about 11 or 12 million illegals is a smokescreen. He reminds us that we've already been through one amnesty deal where as many as 13 million illegal aliens were forgiven for their crimes and allowed to stay. So, make the number 25 million.
Americans are overconfident. The United States has been here since the day they were born, and they think that it's bulletproof. Nothing can happen. Our country will survive as it is today. There has been an invasion of over 25 million Mexicans and Hispanics since 1990. If you don't think an invasion force like that can change the face of this country, then you're asleep.
Fifteen million illegals enter the country. Then we have an amnesty agreement from Washington. Nothing is done to control the borders. Another 11 to 12 million illegals cross, expecting history to repeat itself. History then repeats itself. Again, nothing is done to close the border. What do you expect the outcome to be?
This is the largest mass migration -- invasion -- in the history of the world. Twenty five million people crossing the border from one country to another in what is historically speaking a relatively short period of time.
<TABLE style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" borderColor=#111111 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="40%" align=right border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%" bgColor=#c0c0c0><FORM name=pollForm action=/cgi-bin/vpolls/pollVote.cgi method=post target=pollpopup><TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2>Would you be willing to pay the higher prices for goods and service that would result if we rounded up and sent back the illegal aliens?</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width="4%"><INPUT type=radio value=1 name=answer></TD><TD halign="left">Yes, send 'em back!</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width="4%"><INPUT type=radio value=2 name=answer></TD><TD halign="left">No, we need them for the low-paying jobs</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><INPUT type=hidden value=10203 name=poll> <INPUT onclick="pollSubPop('','pollpopup','toolbar=no,location=no,directories=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=no,width=510,height=430'); this.pollForm.submit();" type=submit value=Vote> <INPUT onclick="pollSubPop('','pollpopup','toolbar=no,location=no,directories=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=no,width=510,height=430'); this.pollForm.submit();" type=submit value="See Results" name=disabled> </FORM><SCRIPT language=JavaScript><!--// this will open a new window, submit the poll form,// and send the results to the popup windowfunction pollSubPop (url, name, widgets, specialsURL){popupWin = window.open(url, name, widgets);popupWin.focus();}// --></SCRIPT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>OK .. just for the sake of argument, let's just imagine for a moment that they get their way. Let's just go ahead and grant all 12 million illegal aliens in this country permission to stay here. Green cards for all! What do you think would happen?

Those 12 million would not just live happily ever after. No, those 12 million would get on the horn and start calling all of their friends in Mexico...and 12 million more would stream across the border. The invasion would become even more brisk. The point here is that our first job is to close the borders. Walls, troops ... whatever it takes, close the borders. Then we can start talking about what to do with the illegals already here.
We have a 2,000 mile long border with Mexico...that is largely unguarded. We could secure it, yet we choose not to. Why? Because politicians don't want to. They're either in the pocket of business that wants to maintain the free flow of cheap labor, or are trolling for votes in the Hispanic community.

At the end of the day, if nothing is done about illegal immigration, more and more are going to keep coming and coming. How much is enough? How much before we stand up and stop the madness?
You are watching our country undergoing a profound change ... a change that will be very costly. Our elected officials lack the political will to do anything about it.


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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The benefits of open immigration


BY MICHAEL TANNER America has always been a nation of immigrants. Thomas Jefferson emphasized this basic part of the American heritage, taking note of "the natural right which all men have of relinquishing the country in which birth or other accident may have thrown them, and seeking subsistence and happiness wheresoever they may be able, and hope to find them."
The Libertarian Party has long recognized the importance of allowing free and open immigration, understanding that this leads to a growing and more prosperous America. We condemn the xenophobic immigrant bashing that would build a wall around the United States. At the same time, we recognize that the right to enter the United States does not include the right to economic entitlements such as welfare. The freedom to immigrate is a freedom of opportunity, not a guarantee of a handout.
A policy of open immigration will advance the economic well-being of all Americans. All major recent studies of immigrants indicate that they have a high labor force participation, are entrepreneurial, and tend to have specialized skills that allow them to enter under-served markets. Although it is a common misconception that immigrants "take jobs away from native-born Americans," this does not appear to be true. In 1989, the U.S. Department of Labor reviewed nearly 100 studies on the relationship between immigration and unemployment and concluded that "neither U.S. workers nor most minority workers appear adversely affected by immigration."
Indeed, most studies show that immigrants actually lead to an increase in the number of jobs available. Immigrants produce jobs in several ways: 1) They expand the demand for goods and services through their own consumption; 2) They bring savings with them that contribute to overall investment and productivity; 3) They are more highly entrepreneurial than native-born Americans and create jobs through the businesses they start; 4) They fill gaps in the low and high ends of the labor markets, producing subsidiary jobs for American workers; 5) Low-wage immigrants may enable threatened American businesses to survive competition from low-wage businesses abroad; and 6) They contribute to increased economic efficiencies through economies of scale.
Confirmation can be seen in a study by economists Richard Vedder and Lowell Galloway of Ohio University and Stephen Moore of the Cato Institute. They found that states with the highest rates of immigration during the 1980s also had the highest rates of economic growth and lowest rates of unemployment.
Studies also show that not only do immigrants not take jobs away from American workers, they also do not drive down wages. Numerous studies have demonstrated that increased immigration has little or no effect on the wages of most American workers, and may even increase wages at upper income levels.
Contrary to stereotypes, there is no evidence that immigrants come to this country to receive welfare. Indeed, most studies show that immigrants actually use welfare at lower rates than do native-born Americans. For example, a study of welfare recipients in New York City found that only 7.7% of immigrants were receiving welfare compared to 13.3% for the population as a whole. Likewise, a nationwide study by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found that 12.8% of immigrants were receiving welfare benefits, compared to 13.9% of the general population. Some recent studies indicate that the rate of welfare usage may now be equalizing between immigrants and native-born Americans, but, clearly, most immigrants are not on welfare.
The impact of immigrants on taxes is more equivocal. Most immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive in government benefits. However, the majority of immigrant taxes are paid to the federal government, while immigrants tend to use mostly state and local services. This can place a burden on states and localities in high immigration areas.
However, the answer to this problem lies not in cutting off immigration, but in cutting the services that immigrants consume. The right to immigrate does not imply a right to welfare -- or any other government service. Moreover, this is not simply a matter of saving tax money. The Libertarian Party believes that most government welfare programs are destructive to the recipients themselves. Thus, immigrants would actually be better off without access to these programs. As Edward Crane, President of the Cato Institute, has put it:
"Suppose we increased the level of immigration, but the rule would be that immigrants and their descendants would have no access to government social services, including welfare, Social Security, health care, business subsidies, and the public schools. I would argue, first, that there would be no lack of takers for that proposition. Second, within a generation, we would see those immigrants' children going to better and cheaper schools than the average citizen; there would be less poverty, a better work ethic, and proportionately more entrepreneurs than in the rest of U.S. society; and virtually everyone in that group would have inexpensive high-deductible catastrophic health insurance, while the 'truly needy' would be cared for by an immigrant culture that gave proportionately more to charity."
Finally, any discussion of immigration must include a warning about the threat to civil liberties posed by many of the proposals to limit immigration. Recent legislation to restrict immigration has included calls for a national identity card for all Americans. Senator Diane Feinstein (CA-D) has suggested that such an ID card should contain an individual's photograph, fingerprints, and even retina scans. Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) has proposed legislation that would require employers to consult a national registry of workers before hiring anyone, effectively giving the U.S. government control over every hiring decision by every business in America.
Other legislation has contained provisions penalizing people who fail to "inform" on people they "suspect" might be illegal immigrants. Such Orwellian nightmares have no place in a free society, but are the natural outgrowth of an obsession with restricting immigration.
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