Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

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WND confirms: expert finds no problem with Obama certificate image

By Dr. Conspiracy on <abbr class="date time published" title="2011-06-22T12:34:08-0400">June 22, 2011</abbr> in Birth Certificate, Media, WorldNetDaily
Let’s spin this back down to neutral.
Readers may recall that Fox News quoted an Adobe PDF expert who examined Obama’s long-form birth certificate image file as saying “No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate is Legit.”
I was struck by this comment at the time asking myself how this fellow could determine the legitimacy of a document from an online image. One would expect that any competent expert would, at best, say that he found no problems with the document, and certainly not make a blanket pronouncement of legitimacy. I took the headline as hyperbole, and interpreted it as really meaning “no problems.”
Now WorldNetDaily has published an article in which they report talking to the expert, Jean Claude Tremblay, and him denying the Fox News story. WND goes to some length to emphasize Mr Tremblay’s displeasure over Fox News misquoting them. However, WND damns its own crank theories by quoting what Tremblay told them:
“First, I never thought that what I saw in the Birth Certificate PDF was a proof of its authenticity,” he wrote. “For me, what I have seen does not prove that it is legit, nor that it is a fake, nor that there has been any tampering whatsoever,” he wrote. “The title of the blog does not represent my conclusion. It would be unprofessional and simplistic within my area of competence to come to a conclusion one way or the other.”
Tremblay found nothing to indicate tampering — putting to the lie all those cranks who say otherwise. I had read the Fox News story correctly all along.
 

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WND claims Amazon.com sabotaging WTBC? sales

By Dr. Conspiracy on <abbr class="date time published" title="2011-06-21T22:03:51-0400">June 21, 2011</abbr> in Books, Fakes and frauds, Old News
This is funny. Some joker published his own book titled: Where’s the Birth Certificate? My Diary that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President and you could get it on Amazon.com for $12.95 (now out of print). The “book” is just a 100-page lined blank book where the purchaser is supposed to write his own investigation into Obama’s eligibility.
It’s an obvious rip-off of Corsi’s book, and WorldNetDaily blames Amazon.com for an attempt to divert sales away from the real Corsi book, to this fake. When you search for Corsi’s book on Amazon, the fake is listed second after the real WTBC?, although it is now marked as “out of print, limited availability” and has no price listed. Listed third is Jack Cashill’s Deconstructing Obama. The publisher, according to Amazon is CreateSpace, a self-publishing enterprise, and an Amazon.com company.
The author is one Skylar Blue (alias?) who describes himself on the jacket as:

The book had an auspicious publication date of April 27, 2011, the date Barack Obama released his long form birth certificate. “Birther movement from its infancy” — do you think a pun was intended here


:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO

But hey for only $4.95 you can get a copy from WND!!!!
 
Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Is he claiming it is fake now??:btj:

No, he isn't saying one way or the other because its impossible to authenticate what is essentially a photocopy. What the White House released is a COPY of the original record.

At this time Hawaii is not cooperating and coming forward with the ORIGINAL document required to establish proof. (Surprise!)

Memo to the Foghorn underwear blogger kooks:

It is not our responsibility to disprove eligibility, it is the candidate's responsibility to PROVE eligibility.

The Kenyan could end this tomorrow and make us all look like asses by releasing ALL of his records documenting his past, something he has resisted at every turn for obvious reasons.

You idiots make Joe Biden look like Albert Einstein. :doh1

 
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Another day goes by with Barack Obama still the President of the United States of America and "Joe Contrarian" still a Canadian citizen and voter
 

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At this time Hawaii is not cooperating and coming forward with the ORIGINAL document required to establish proof. (Surprise!)
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Get a good look at just really how stupid this birther is!!!They copy the original and according to these retards it is not good enough!!For over 3 years now all we have heard is ''where's the birth certificate''and now that the original has been copied and shown to the world these racists retards are naturally saying it is not real!!This folks is the birther agenda in black and white for all to see!!
 

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It is not our responsibility to disprove eligibility, it is the candidate's responsibility to PROVE eligibility.
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And for 99% of the world he has proven his eligibility but the 1% racist crowd still cries ''where's the birth certificate '' when it has been rammed up your ass with a ham and cheese sandwich but you are to stupid to realize it!
 

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:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
And what is even funnier is that you cannot debunk one single thing he has proven!!He owns retard birthers like you and it pisses you off because you have no answer and he wipes his ass with your stupid WND and Corsi retard pieces that only a low IQ birther would believe.He makes you birthtards look stupid and that is funnier then Hell!!
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
I would ask you again to debunk anything he has said but I do not want to embarrass you again because we all know you cannot do it!!He owns you retards!!You are his bitch so get use to it while he treats you like his jailhouse boy!!:houra:houra
 

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The Kenyan could end this tomorrow and make us all look like asses by releasing ALL of his records documenting his past, something he has resisted at every turn for obvious reasons.

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Did you racist clowns ask the same of Bush???Wonder why you never??Hummmmmm???Yeah it is obvious with you retards!!Hey maybe you could do the same with all the GOP contenders too huh??Yeah we all know why that is not happening !!
 
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Via WND: - 'Rathergate' expert doubts Obama's birth certificate - Typography pro played key role in ending career of CBS News anchor - Jerome Corsi



The typography expert who played a key role in ending the career of CBS News anchor Dan Rather has told WND he has strong suspicions the Obama birth certificate released by the White House is fraudulent.

Joseph M. Newcomer, who exposed the "Killian documents" as fraudulent in 2004, has told WND the Obama birth certificate released by the White House April 27 is a "highly suspicious" document that deserves professional forensic examination.

"There is something deeply wrong here," Newcomer told WND. "There are artifacts in the birth certificate document that are strongly suggestive of a forgery. The document screams out that something is wrong."

Newcomer's 7,000-word analysis of the Killian documents in the Rather case demonstrated that the purported memos regarding George W. Bush's experience in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War were produced on a modern computer word processor, not a 1970s-era manual typewriter.

Newcomer stressed that he was relying on published charges that the Obama birth certificate was fraudulent, including the analysis by scanner expert Doug Vogt and by typography expert Paul Irey.

He was particularly concerned about the date stamps on the Obama birth certificate that displayed a clear difference between highly pixelated gray scale letters and numbers and a final number that displayed sharp black and white characteristics.

As WND previously reported, Vogt made the same observation.

~ Read about the evidence on Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth."

As shown below, the date stamps in boxes 20 and 22 of the Obama document recording the date the local registrar and registrar general accepted the birth certificate have two different shades, on the line of text in the printed form and in the date stamp itself.


"If I saw these differences in a document I was examining, it would scream out at me that the document was a 'cut-and-paste' fraud," Newcomer said.

He said that the Hawaii Department of Health should release the original Obama birth certificate to the public for independent forensic examination.

...Continued here: 'Rathergate' expert doubts Obama's birth certificate
 
Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

Did you ask the same of Bush?

For his National Guard records, yes. First Bush released computerized copies, but the left wing media kept the heat on which forced him to release the originals within the days. Only then were the hounds called off and the story died. Same thing happened with McCain and his BC.

The Kenyan can't do what Bush and McCain did because he's a complete ineligible fraud, so stick it up your ass you hypocritical Foghorn underwear blogger kooks. Until your messiah comes clean, this ain't going away.

:finger007-1
 
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Major General Vallely: Obama's Fraudulent Social Security Number & Birth Records And Some - 6/22/11 [/B]

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Newcomer stressed that he was relying on published charges that the Obama birth certificate was fraudulent, including the analysis by scanner expert Doug Vogt and by typography expert Paul Irey.
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:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO You cannot make this shit up!!He is relying on info from 2 clowns that have been debunked and blown out of the water!!Vogt did not even know that Adobe was not even used on it!!:houra:houraIt never get's old with the birther crowd!!Take a bow Joe for providing the laugh of the year with this latest shit!!
 

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:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO You cannot make this shit up!!He is relying on info from 2 clowns that have been debunked and blown out of the water!!Vogt did not even know that Adobe was not even used on it!!:houra:houraIt never get's old with the birther crowd!!Take a bow Joe for providing the laugh of the year with this latest shit!!
Scanner expert Vogt who did not even know that Adobe was not used on it!!:fuck:
 

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For his National Guard records, yes. First Bush released computerized copies, but the left wing media kept the heat on which forced him to release the originals within the days. Only then were the hounds called off and the story died. Same thing happened with McCain and his BC.

The Kenyan can't do what Bush and McCain did because he's a complete ineligible fraud, so stick it up your ass you hypocritical Foghorn underwear blogger kooks. Until your messiah comes clean, this ain't going away.

:finger007-1
Yet another lie from a birther!!What a real shock here huh!!Prove it!!I want to see the original document from Bush's National Guard service!!Prove it!!
 
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Scanner expert Vogt who did not even know that Adobe was not used on it!!:fuck:

Where the fuck did you read Adobe wasn't used? Hope and Change Underwear Blogger Central? :doh1

Even Adobe engineers are now saying its fake!

Idiot.

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[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Adobe engineer doubts Obama birth certificate[/FONT]


[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Concludes 'something digital came between the paper and the glass'[/FONT]

<hr size="1"> [SIZE=-1]Posted: June 24, 2011
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[/SIZE] [FONT=Palatino, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times, serif]By Jerome R. Corsi[/FONT]
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Gary Poyssick, an early employee of software giant Adobe System Inc., continues to maintain there is something "fishy" about the Obama long-form birth certificate released by the White House.

"What the White House released is not a simple scan," Poyssick told WND. "Something digital came between the paper and the glass."

Poyssick was at the San Jose-based tech company when it counted no more than 14 employees, and he continues to advise and write on Adobe software products.

Poyssick, who today devotes his energies to running The Online Fisherman in Tampa, Fla., has written more than 50 titles about Adobe software, the printing industry, coding and programming, website development and workflow management.

His initial reaction was to declare the birth certificate an outright forgery.

"I could have done a much better replica myself, if the president had asked," Poyssick told The Political Sandbox blog when the birth certificate first appeared and he opened the document in Adobe Illustrator. "The guy that did this is a bimbo in that he forgot to 'flatten' his works to soften the background edges so the fake letters blended, softly into the green paper.

Observing that the birth certificate document had multiple layers when opened in Illustrator, Poyssick was amazed the White House had released an electronic PDF file that had not been "flattened" so as to remove all evidence that it had been modified.

If the image had been scanned from the original, as the White House claimed, then what Poyssick expected to see was a "bitmap" image that is essentially a one-dimensional grid, without multiple layers.

Now, Poyssick acknowledges that the layers and other artifacts he initially observed, such as "clipping masks," could have been produced if Character Recognition or OCR, software had been turned on when the document was scanned.

Poyssick describes "clipping masks" by the analogy of an image in which a girl with long hair stands in the breeze in front of a gas station and junky cars.

"The image ? and the woman ? are beautiful, except for the Ford Falcon in the background," he explains. "To isolate and 'silhouette' the hair, and place her on the beaches of Jamaica, one would use 'clipping masks.'"

In his second post yesterday, Poyssick agreed that turning on OCR software could generate the layers and clipping masks he first observed.

Still, he asks, why would anybody turn on OCR software?

OCR software is designed to read printed words into word processing software so the text can be manipulated.

"A file resulting from OCR software intercepting the original 'on the glass' is not the same as a 'regular everyday scan," Poyssick wrote yesterday.

"Anyone wanting to investigate the document ? be they journalists or simply curious to see the truth ? would need a 'flat' scan without layers, and certainly without clipping masks."

He told WND that layers and clipping masks were not his only problem with the Obama birth certificate document.

What about the green pattered security paper on which the document was printed?

"Scanners have white plastic behind the scanned document, not patterns identical to 1961 ledger paper," he wrote. "You would have had to put an identical piece of paper behind the original Long Form to create such a background pattern."

The problem is that the alignment to match the lines perfectly, as seen in the long-form birth certificate supplied by the White House, would be nearly impossible to achieve by hand.

"The resolution of the surrounding pattern is also ? on close examination ? different than the ledger paper on the Long Form," he noted.

Then there is the issue of bitmap vs. letterpress images in the characters seen on the document.

"Some of the letters are very soft, while others are very jagged," he observed. "All the characters on the page should look the same, and would if the scan were done using normal accepted workflows."

Poyssick noted that letterpress letters are created by a metal arm physically striking the surface of the paper, resulting in the printed characters having a soft look.

"The fact that there are some 'hard edged' characters on the document and some soft letters on the document is evidence that some of the letters were processed differently," he wrote. "There is no telling whether it was done by software or by human intervention."

Finally, Poyssick singled out the issue of kerning, a process in which the horizontal space between certain letters is altered to make reading easier "Old typewriters provided exactly the same horizontal space for each letter of the alphabet," he argued. "An example is the capital letter 'T' and its common companion, the lower-case 'o.'"

Manual typewriters were unable to "tuck" the lower-case "o" underneath the "cap" of the letter "T."

But word processing programs, in contrast, that can be programmed to examine subsequent letters can adjust the horizontal space between letters in a process known as "kerning."

"In conclusion, I cannot say the document is a forgery or that conditions could not have generated clipping masks in the PDF file I originally saw from the White House," he summed up. "Equally important, however, nobody can say it was an original."

Poyssick insisted that document authentication could only be done from a scan of the original long-form birth certificate unaltered by the OCR process, together with the layers and clipping masks the process can generate.

The problem is that the original document has never been shown to the public, as it remains hidden away in the vault of the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu.

But even though Poyssick is trying to be even-handed in his evaluation, his concerns are evident.

"The reality is that clipping masks are commonly used not to scan a document for preview or printing, but to merge or compose one or more images," he says in the final analysis. "It is ? in my opinion and my opinion only ? a document that was, in fact, merged from several originals."

Media wishing to interview Jerome Corsi, please contact WND.

Read more: Adobe engineer doubts Obama birth certificate Adobe engineer doubts Obama birth certificate
 
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Quick tank!!

How fast can your underwear bloggers dig up dirt on an Adobe engineer???

Maybe he's a racist and secret member of an underground white supremacist group???

Better tell Dr. Conspiracy and Forghorn Kookhorn to get right on it!

:3dgros13:
 

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Where the fuck did you read Adobe wasn't used? Hope and Change Underwear Blogger Central? :doh1

Even Adobe engineers are now saying its fake!

Idiot.

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And the CIA,FBI,the Pope, INTERPOL, and etc,etc,etc.......everybody thinks it is fake according to the birthers yet they strongly remain in the 5% retard crowd.Yes Joe you pretty much are alone except for a few of your fringe retards that are beyond stupid.Go look at Vogt's complaint to the FBI and why he modified it 4 times!!:houraYes dummy your so called expert thought it was used by Adobe but as it has been proven that was not the case but keep spewing your stupid shit and showing everyone just how ''smart'' you birthers are.
 

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:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Adobe was NOT USED .Why can't you lying stupid retarded birthers get that through your pea sized brains????
Some false claims say Photoshop, while others say Adobe Illustrator or some other Adobe program. The truth is seen in the PDF meta data (object IDs 36 0, 33 0, and 1 0): it was created using Apple Preview on a Mac OS X 10.6.7 system. The PDF encoder was "Mac OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext" (that's the back-end system library on a Mac). No Adobe front-end application was used to create this document. (You can also see this in the way the objects are ordered in the PDF document. Adobe generally writes the object IDs in numerical order. But whatever created this PDF document used prefix numbering and postfix writing to the file. This was not created by an Adobe product.)

And you retards are trying to say these guys are experts when they do not even know what was used????
:houra
 

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Quick tank!!

How fast can your underwear bloggers dig up dirt on an Adobe engineer???
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He is not even an Adobe engineer!!You birther retards are just beyond stupid and fall for everything that WND rams up your ass.Fail again birther!!
The Political Sandbox

A FLAT SCAN?
Publisher Note: Mr. Poyssick has never worked for Adobe but rather has worked with said for as long as it has been around! Gary Poyssick is not nor ever has been an Adobe Engineer.
 
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[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Stunning numbers want Congress to probe Obama's eligibility

[/FONT] [FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Analyst says 'birthers' can't be marginalized, as 28% of Democrats agree

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4:55 pm Eastern

[/SIZE] [FONT=Palatino, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times, serif]By Bob Unruh[/FONT]
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Editor's note: This is another in a series of monthly "WND/WENZEL POLLS" conducted exclusively for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies.

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Half of Americans would like to see Congress investigate Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency and nearly that many believe the definition of the constitutional term "natural born citizen" means both parents must be U.S. citizens, according to a new scientific poll.

"There's no marginalizing those who want this matter investigated by Congress," said Fritz Wenzel of Wenzel Strategies, who conducted the WND/Wenzel Poll telephone survey June 16-19. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.85 points.

"Even among Democrats, more than one in four ? 28 percent ? said they now want an inquiry, as do 43 percent of independents and 77 percent of Republicans. Interestingly, men are much more skeptical than are women about the question of eligibility ? only 42 percent of men said they think Obama proved his eligibility by releasing the electronic birth certificate, compared to 59 percent of women."

The poll indicated 43.5 percent of Americans believe that a Hawaii birth would make no difference in Obama's eligibility, as the Constitution requires both parents of a U.S. president to have been U.S. citizens ? and Obama's father was not a citizen.

The figure included 56.9 percent of the GOP, 40.2 percent of independents and 32.9 percent of Democrats.

The eligibility saga, as Wenzel noted, has taken on a life of its own. It began with questions about Obama's birth place and parentage before his election. At that time, he released a computer image of a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii and insisted it was original and the only document available.

Dozens of lawsuits followed, and hundreds of questions remained unanswered. Documents that typically would be available from a president's history for Obama remain concealed, including passport records, kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records and schedules, medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license and adoption records.

Then in April, just as a new book, "Where the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is Not Eligible to Be President," by Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., reached the No. 1 spot on Amazon and was about to be released, Obama took a dramatic step.

He instructed his White House counsel, Robert Bauer, to have a private attorney, Judy Corley of Perkins Coie, contact the Hawaii Department of Health to obtain a copy of his "Certificate of Live Birth" purportedly on file with the state.

The White House subsequently released copies of a copy of that document, as well as an online image, calling it "proof positive" of a Hawaii birth. Since then, however, dozens of experts, including several ex-CIA members, have asserted that the document is fraudulent.

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At its release, WND contacted the Hawaii Health Department and the office of Gov. Neil Abercrombie, an ardent Obama supporter, to request confirmation that the image released was an accurate representation of the state's file information. Officials refused to respond.

Joseph Farah, founder and CEO of WND.com, the only news organization to report fully on the controversy, and publisher of "Where's the Birth Certificate?," said the issue is growing in significance and will be a dominating question in the 2012 presidential election.

"Barack Obama may think he put his eligibility controversy behind him with the release of an unauthenticated and unauthenticatable document, but this poll shows the American people still believe he is still hiding his own constitutional ineligibility for office," he said. "I agree with the large percentage of respondents who say this issue will continue to haunt him through the campaign of 2012 ? if he actually dares to run for re-election."

Wenzel's analysis of the poll results agreed.

"If Barack Obama thought that by releasing an electronic version of what the White House said was his long form birth certificate, the question of his eligibility to serve as president would be settled once and for all, he was badly mistaken. My latest polling shows that only a bare majority of 51 percent believe the release of his birth certificate proves he is eligible to serve, and now, half of adults nationwide want a congressional inquiry into his eligibility to serve.

"This reflects a deep distrust of the White House on this question. More telling is that 57 percent in this national telephone survey were either greatly or somewhat troubled by assertions that the electronic birth certificate appears to have been either forged or tampered with. Another 38 percent said they were not troubled at all by such assertions," Wenzel said.

"Obama came into office with such fanfare and made such sweeping claims that his administration would repair holes in our social fabric and fix our economy, but America has seen none of that. Disappointment has given way to disillusionment and anger, and this survey reveals that even on a simple, basic question of his qualification to hold the office of president, many are skeptical that what the White House has delivered is not at all what was advertised," Wenzel said.

"There are many reasons this eligibility question has taken on a life of its own, but that only half the country believes that the president has proven he deserves to hold the office reveals a deeply held belief that he is somehow trying to trick the country. This sense of distrust underlies public perception of everything Obama does and says, which means that, as he begins to build a re-election campaign, it is going to be increasingly difficult for him to make a case on any issue as long as this question about the authenticity of his birth certificate remains unanswered. In fact, releasing the birth certificate that Obama released may have made worse his standing with the American people, and that will certainly be the case if a congressional inquiry discovers it has been tampered with or forged," Wenzel warned.

Asked whether the constitution's requirement for a "natural born citizen" means "anyone born in the U.S.," there was a majority of 78 percent. But there obviously is a level of confusion on the issue as 43.5 percent said they believe that to be eligible, both parents of a president must have been U.S. citizens at the time of his birth.

Nearly 27 percent said "just one parent needs to be a U.S. citizen at the time of the person's birth."

The most likely definition at the time the Constitution was written was a person born of two parents who are citizens of the nation.

Only 50.5 percent believe that the electronic image released in April documents his eligibility, and skeptics included more than 73 percent of the GOP, 48 percent of independents and more than 26 percent of Democrats.

Further, almost 57 percent were troubled by the evidence that the Obama electronic image of a "Certificate of Live Birth" was forged or had been tampered with. Only 38 percent said they were not troubled, and another 4.7 percent said they were uncertain.

Looking at the presidential campaign that Obama already has launched, 38.2 percent said eligibility will be an issue. More than 44 percent of all voters said the lingering questions will impact their decision regarding their vote in the next presidential election.

Shortly after the White House released the "birth certificate" image, Gallup reported that only 47 percent think Obama was definitely was born in the U.S. and 18 percent said he "probably" was.

Obama released the image saying he had no time for such silliness as questions about his birth, then departed for an appearance on Oprah's television show.

Part of the doubt that remains could be attributable to the many analysts who have issued statements casting doubt on the integrity of the online image posted by the White House.

Web document experts have questioned the document's authenticity, and a close inspection of the Hawaii Department of Health state registrar's official stamp on the birth records even reveals an apparent typographical error.

The stamp, affixed April 25, 2011, says "TXE RECORD."

Yet, on a copy of a Hawaii long-form birth certificate issued only one month earlier, the stamp says "THE RECORD."

Also, the former Department of Health director, Chiyome Fukino, who reported she examined the original document, in an interview described it as half-typed and half-written. The image released by Obama, however, is all typed, with only the signatures written.

Another recent poll reported by the Los Angeles Times showed that the release of the White House image just weeks ago failed to convince a majority of Republicans.

The poll by Public Policy Polling said only 48 percent of Republicans said they believe Obama was born in the United States.

Some 34 percent said they did not believe Obama was born in the U.S., while 18 percent said they still aren't sure.

On April 26, the day before the release of the long-form birth certificate, a USA Today/Gallup poll indicated only 38 percent of Americans were convinced Obama was born in the U.S., and another 18 percent said he probably was.

It was only a few months after Obama's inauguration that a WND/Wenzel Poll showed that 51.3 percent of Americans said they were aware of the questions raised about Obama's constitutional eligibility for office. Only 18.7 percent said they were not and another 30 percent were unsure.
At that point, 58.2 percent of the GOP said they were aware of the controversy.

Polls later revealed Americans to be increasingly skeptical of Obama's official narrative:

  • A survey by Angus Reid Global Monitor, a division of Vision Critical Group, in October 2009 found three in 10 people in the U.S. believed Obama to be a foreigner.

    "While only 13 percent of Democratic Party supporters believe Obama was not born in the U.S., the proportion rises to 25 percent among independents and 51 percent among Republican party backers," the report said.
  • Then in January 2010, another WND/Wenzel Poll showed on the one-year anniversary of Obama's tenure office that fully one-third of Americans refused to believe Obama was a "legitimate president," with another 15.8 percent saying they were not sure.

    Barely half the voters, 51.5 percent, said they believed the president legitimate even though he had not produced documentation proving his constitutional eligibility. Even 14.6 percent of the Democrats said they did not consider him legitimate.
  • In May 2010, a WND/Wenzel Poll showed that 55 percent of Americans wanted Obama to release all records relating to his childhood and his education, including "college records, Harvard Law School papers, passport records, travel records, and other similar documentation."

    "Asked what should be done should it be found that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president, 59 percent said he should be removed from office, and 35 percent said all bills signed into law by Obama should be repealed," the poll's analysis revealed.
  • By June 2010, other media were beginning to put their toes in the waters of the controversy. A 60 Minutes-Vanity Fair poll showed only 39 percent of respondents believed Obama was born in Hawaii as he claimed in his book.

    "A shocking 63 percent ? very nearly two-thirds of us ? went out on a limb and stated for the record that we believe in the United States. It's enough to make you proud to be an American ? or 63 percent proud, at any rate."

    But that figure included those who said they believe he was born in Kansas or some other unknown state, which still would conflict with Obama's story.
  • Last August, a poll by CNN said 6 of 10 people were uncertain Obama was born in the U.S. The poll said only 42 percent believe Obama "definitely" was born in the U.S.

    The CNN report said, "Hawaii has released a copy of the president's birth certificate ? officially called a 'certificate of live birth.' And in 1961 the hospital where the president was born placed announcements in two Hawaiian newspapers regarding Obama's birth."
<hr size="1">If you are a member of the media and would like to interview Fritz Wenzel about this story, please e-mail.

Read more: Stunning numbers want Congress to probe Obama's eligibility Stunning numbers want Congress to probe Obama's eligibility
 
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Adobe Book Editor: Obama's Birth Certificate Forged By Amateurs; Nordyke Twins' Birth Certificates Played Major Role In Forgery

ObamaRelease YourRecords on <a class="timestamp-link" href="http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/06/adobe-book-editor-obamas-birth.html" rel="bookmark" title="permanent link"><abbr class="published" title="2011-06-28T19:46:00-07:00">7:46 PM</abbr>

Via WND and some: - Adobe book editor positive: Obama certificate is phony - 'Altered document is manufactured, or in everyday parlance ? a forgery' - Jerome Corsi

NEW YORK ? A nationally recognized computer expert who has served as contributing author and technical editor for more than 100 books on Adobe and Microsoft software says the Obama long-form birth certificate image released by the White House is a fraudulent document created with Adobe software.

"The PDF file released by the White House contains evidence of manipulation suggesting that one or more forgers utilized existing Hawaiian birth certificates to assemble fraudulently for Barack Obama a document the president presented to the world as authentic," Mara Zebest told WND.

Zebest has prepared a full analysis of the image that was presented April 27 by Barack Obama to the world as a copy of his original birth documentation in the state of Hawaii.

~ Read the full analysis of the Obama long-form birth certificate image released to the public. ~

The image released online is a copy of Obama's copy of the original, as are the paper copies that were handed out to reporters.

Zebest's analysis begins by documenting inconsistencies in the pixels and bitmap text that display throughout the Obama file, for instance, in the birth certificate number 10641, as seen in Exhibit 1:

<table class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody> <tr><td style="text-align: center;"></td></tr> <tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Exhibit 1. Obama birth certificate, 4/27/11. Viewed in Adobe Acrobat at 1200 percent zoom</td></tr> </tbody></table>
Exhibit 2 offers more examples of the telltale inconsistencies Zebest found. First, defining her terms, Zebest explains that "antialiasing" is the transition of pixel colors that occurs when differing color tones bump into each other in an image. It offers a smooth line (to the eye) when viewed at the normal zoom. Viewed in a closeup mode it appears as an angled pattern. She explains, "Without antialiasing, the edges appear jagged or bitmapped." Bitmapping is a specific computer format used for images that gives them a more choppy appearance when zoomed.

According to Zebest:... ...Continued here: Adobe book editor positive: Obama certificate is phony

FLASHBACK: Photoshop Expert And Author Mara Zebest Declares That Obama's Latest Hawaiian Birth Certificate Is A Complete Phony. -Details here.
 

markinsac

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TRIS IS THE STUPIDIEST THREAD I'VE EVER SEEN. EVEN FOX NEWS HAS BACKED OFF. MAYBE YOU DIDN'T GET THE MEMO . . . this is making conservatives look bad.
 
Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

TRIS IS THE STUPIDIEST THREAD I'VE EVER SEEN. EVEN FOX NEWS HAS BACKED OFF. MAYBE YOU DIDN'T GET THE MEMO . . . this is making conservatives look bad.

 

roscoe

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that is the most intelligent answer you have come up with in years! an ignorant persons way of expressing himself!
 

tank

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TRIS IS THE STUPIDIEST THREAD I'VE EVER SEEN. EVEN FOX NEWS HAS BACKED OFF. MAYBE YOU DIDN'T GET THE MEMO . . . this is making conservatives look bad.
This is the only thing some losers have in life to feel included with even if it is with the 5% retarded crowd.No matter how many times you debunk his stupid shit and expose all his lies , he just comes back with another or they rehash shit that has already been debunked months ago!!Although pathetic and retarded at the same time he is great comedy none the less.Makes you wonder what they are selling...oh yeah a book right??:houraHow's sales going tard??
 

tank

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Slick video: 9 lies in 45 seconds!

By Dr. Conspiracy on <abbr class="date time published" title="2011-06-29T10:27:50-0400">June 29, 2011</abbr> in Citizenship, Videos
Natural Born Citizen for Dummies,” correctly identifies its target audience. It says that the historical record shows US Presidents must have citizen parents, and that liberals are using propaganda and legislative tricks to change it. Of course, the truth is exactly the opposite, as has been shown in numerous articles<sup>1</sup> and comments here, not to mention in the Press and in the law journals.
The video is slick and obviously designed to instill confidence in the viewer, to make the viewer of a mind to reject out of hand any opposing view as liberal lies. It’s a classic example of the rhetorical fallacy, “poisoning the well.”
Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a logical fallacy where adverse information about a target is pre-emptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing everything that the target person is about to say.
Wikipedia
Comments are closed on the video so that no counterarguments can be attached. Allowing comments would be a problem in this case because it is easy to verify lies in it. So let’s examine it here, where I will make good on my claim that there are 9 lies in the first 45 seconds.
The video says:
For some time now liberals have attempted to eliminate that [natural born citizen] constitutional requirement altogether, seemingly without a care that to do so would actually require a constitutional amendment ratified by at least 38 states. To try to change the Constitution they have made numerous end-runs around it even though it plainly details how those changes are to be made.
From Natural Born Citizen for Dummies video
The opening sentence announces the overall plan: bias the viewer against the historical consensus view by attaching the name “liberal” to it. What follows is a list of past proposed House resolutions and Senate bills that the video describes as liberal attempts to get around the “natural born citizen” requirement of Constitution while avoiding the proper path of constitutional amendment. The video invites the viewer to believe that liberals are going to lie to them, proven by the fact that they have been sneaky in the past with the bills and resolutions listed. The list looks like evidence, but is it? The viewer has to trust the video over what these resolutions and bills are really about and such trust would be misplaced. I suppose 99.9% of the viewers aren’t going to check the details, but I did.
Here’s the list on the video screen while the narrative preceding was spoken.

  • 1975 – H.J.R. 33 “Joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States….” The bill was sponsored by Rep. Jonathan B. Bingham (D-NY) with no cosponsors. Given the resolution’s title, it is without a doubt not an example of what the narrative claims it is: an example of liberals trying too make an “end run” around the process of constitutional amendment. The video lies.
  • 1977 – H.J.R. 38 Identical to previous. Lie #2.
  • 2003 – H.J.R. 59 “Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States…” It’s obviously not an attempt to get around amending the Constitution. The bill was sponsored by Vic Snyder (D -AZ) with 6 cosponsors. Lie #3.
  • 2003 – H.J.R. 67 “Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States….” The bill was sponsored by Rep. John Conyers (D – MI). It’s obviously not an attempt to get around amending the Constitution. Lie #4.
  • 2004 – S2128 This bill would define “natural born citizen,” a term that is not defined in the Constitution itself. The definition it offers adds eligibility for foreign-born adoptees to the consensus view. The Sponsor is Sen. Don Nickles (R – OK) — a fiscal and social conservative. While some might honestly argue that this is an attempt at an end run around the Constitution, they cannot honestly say that Sen. Nickles is a liberal. Lie #5.
  • 2004 – H.J.R. 104 “Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States….” The bill was sponsored by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R – CA). It’s obviously not an attempt to get around amending the Constitution. Republican and global-warming doubter Rohrabacher is no liberal either. Lie #6.
  • 2005 – H.J.R. 2 “Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States….” Same as 2003 – H.J.R. 67. Lie # 7.
  • 2005 – H.J.R. 15 “Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States….” Same as 2004 – H.J.R. 104. Li3 # 8.
  • 2005 – H.J.R. 42 “Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States….” The bill was sponsored by Rep. John Conyers (D – MI). It’s obviously not an attempt to get around amending the Constitution. Lie #9.
Nine lies in 45 seconds! Stay tuned for more on this nasty piece of work.
 

tank

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:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
And yet you have had over ten chances to debunk anything he say's and you have not even tried to!!Why???/Because you cannot do it!!He owns stupid birthers like you and all you can do is post smiley faces!!:btj:OWNED BIRTHER!!Hey do you have anymore Adobe engineers or scanner experts ???:fuck::+textinb3
What did the WND experts find in Hawaii??:houraHow are book sales going??:houra
 

tank

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tank

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Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #3,226 in Books




:houra:houra:houra
 

tank

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WorldNetDaily sues Esquire for zillions over satire

By Dr. Conspiracy on <abbr class="date time published" title="2011-06-29T19:01:44-0400">June 29, 2011</abbr> in Books, Jerome Corsi, Joseph Farah, Lawsuits, Media, WorldNetDaily
<abbr title="THIS LINE IS SATIRE FOLKS">Millions of readers want refund</abbr><sup>1</sup>
Joseph Farah, victim?

In the latest attempt to prop up flagging sales of its fizzling book, Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President, Joseph Farah, Jerome Corsi and their companies are suing Esquire Magazine, its parent company and publisher as a publicity stunt — or that’s how this observer sees it.
Esquire Magazine published an online article May 28, 2011 saying that WorldNetDaily and WND Books were recalling the defective book [made moot by the release of President Obama's long-form birth certificate] and offering refunds to customers.
I said at the time:
As soon as I heard this, I knew it was ridiculous; however, I guess some didn’t get the joke. I wasn’t even going to write about the story, except that the Wall Street Journal called what Esquire did “disastrous” in their own article: How Not to Write Satire. The Journal reports that Joseph Farah of WorldNetDaily got all huffy and is exploring his legal options.
I think that anyone who knows Farah would not take a story seriously that said he was refunding anything, and certainly not admitting that there was anything wrong with Corsi’s book. The inclusion by Esquire of a second totally-beyond-belief fake title supposedly written by Corsi, Capricorn One: NASA, JFK, and the Great moon landing cover-up should have clued everybody that the article was satire; this was the equivalent of a label: “HEY, THIS ARTICLE IS SATIRE!!!” Nevertheless, some fairly high up media types were fooled and supposedly WND was flood by calls from the media asking for confirmation.
Despite all the publicity generated by the satirical article and its retraction, WTBC? ranking at Amazon.com dropped from #67 the next day to #3,110 within a month.
Like any true birther lawsuit, and I think we have to treat this lawsuit in that way, the complaint includes an allegation that Obama is not eligible to be President that that his long-form birth certificate is a fake. Nowhere does Farah or Corsi actually make any claim that the certificate is a fake, but that others believe it:
About 25 percent of the American people believe … that the newly-released birth certificate is fraudulent.
I presume that the careful wording indicates that Farah doesn’t believe it himself.
The most startling admission was when WND admitted that after the Esquire article, “consumers began requesting refunds.”
The lawsuit filed in the District of Columbia (and embedded below) demands a large sum in damages of various kinds. Not being a lawyer, it’s hard for me to tell whether any of the damages are listed multiple times, but in any case, we’re talking about something north of 100 million dollars. For that kind of money you’d think Esquire had spilled coffee in Farah’s lap. A jury trial is requested.
The best outcome I can think of for this case (besides WND losing) is that we might actually get some real sales number for Corsi’s book and evidence as to whether or not the bulk purchases of WTBC? were responsible for its best-seller status. I consider that a long shot. WND does not seem to be trying to adjudicate Obama’s eligibility, so expect nothing on that front.
Farah vs. Esquire
<sup>1</sup>The subhead is satire. Obviously millions of copies of WTBC? haven’t been sold, so millions could not be asking for refunds. However the tens of millions of dollars in actual damages demanded in the suit would only be appropriate for a book that was a big deal, and this one wasn’t.
 

tank

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dbl
 
Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

And yet you have had over ten chances to debunk anything he say's and you have not even tried to!!Why???/Because you cannot do it!!He owns stupid birthers like you and all you can do is post smiley faces!!:btj:OWNED BIRTHER!!Hey do you have anymore Adobe engineers or scanner experts ???:fuck::+textinb3
What did the WND experts find in Hawaii??:houraHow are book sales going??:houra

There's nothing to "debunk".

No documents, no sworn affidavits, no forensic analysis or law enforcement experts making their case from your side.

NOTHING...ZIP...NADDA...NICHTS...

All you post is underwear blogger blowhards spewing their bullshit from their basements.

Like I always say, you and your underwear bloggers are entitled to your own kook opinions, but not your own facts.

FACT: THE KENYAN IS HIDING HIS CRIMINAL PAST:

Passport records
Obama kindergarten records
Punahou School records
Occidental College records
Columbia University records
Columbia thesis
Harvard Law School records
Harvard Law Review articles
University of Chicago scholarly articles
Illinois State Bar Association records
Illinois State Senate records/schedules
Medical records
Obama/Dunham marriage license
Obama/Dunham divorce documents
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
Adoption records...

...all sealed and hidden away from the public.

The Kenyan's birth certificate is a horrible forgery and you can't find ONE expert who will vouch for it.

Your underwear bloggers are lucky they don't have any readership otherwise they'd find themselves knee-deep in the same legal shit as Esquire.
 
Re: Jerome Corsi's New Book Proves Obama's Ineligible! ("This is going to make Watergate look like a political sideshow by comparison.")

WorldNetDaily sues Esquire for zillions over satire

"Satire", huh?

Since when does Esquire pretend to be The Onion? :doh1



Lies and smears have consequences.

I hope WND bankrupts them.

Your underwear bloggers are a fucking joke.
 
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