Ohtani will pitch again in 2018

Heim

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I think the late start times out West hurt his chances for ROY. It will probably go to one of the NYY guys although Sho-time is more deserving.
 

cheapseats

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Mikey desperate....................foolish move in yet another crappy season, why let that arm be subject to further injury, there is next year if Mikey is even around!
 

Valuist

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Heim;n7453024 said:
I think the late start times out West hurt his chances for ROY. It will probably go to one of the NYY guys although Sho-time is more deserving.

78 games as a hitter and 9 starts as a pitcher are not enough. Resume needs to be deeper.
 

Heim

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Valuist;n7453029 said:
78 games as a hitter and 9 starts as a pitcher are not enough. Resume needs to be deeper.


Ok let's play the metric game in honor of former poster 'Javy'.....Ohtani hitting and pitching combo 3.0 WAR, Andujar 1.7.
 

Valuist

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Heim;n7453031 said:
Ok let's play the metric game in honor of former poster 'Javy'.....Ohtani hitting and pitching combo 3.0 WAR, Andujar 1.7.

The metrics are fine to use for handicapping, but I don't believe WAR should be the biggest factor in determining post season awards. Fangraphs lists Andujar at 2.3 WAR. He certainly has the counting numbers: .300 BA, .525 SP, 22 home runs, 37 doubles. If a guy only plays half a season, he has to be dominating at what he does, like Sanchez a couple years ago.
 

MrTop

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the voters love playing time put in unless the player makes a big splash when he starts in late may / early june ..example : posey back in 2010
 

Heim

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So MRI revealed additional damage today. TJ a must. Say hello to Sho-time at full time hitter. No idea why they had him pitch two innings the other day. I guess with the minimal investment they have in him they had nothing to lose.
 

EasyGoer45

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Tommy John surgery has been “recommended” for Angels starter/DH Shohei Ohtani after an MRI revealed additional damage to his ulnar collateral ligament, the club announced (h/t Jeff Fletcher of the Southern California News Group, on Twitter). It is not yet certain whether he will undergo the surgery, but it certainly sounds as if that will be the case.

Ohtani, 24, has amply justified the hype that formed when it became clear he’d be coming to the majors in advance of the 2018 season. Though some questions formed during his showing in Spring Training, Ohtani has been outstanding both on the mound and at the plate.

While Ohtani has continued to knock the cover off the ball since being diagnosed with a second-degree UCL sprain earlier this year, that development led to obvious concern as to his outlook as a pitcher. He was able to make it back for one outing, showing his typical upper-nineties heat before suddenly dropping off in the third inning.

Whether or not the additional UCL damage occurred during the outing, the fact is that Ohtani will almost certainly miss the entirety of the 2019 season — as a pitcher, that is. Typically, position players are able to return from this particular injury on a much shorter timeline.

It’s important to bear in mind here just why Ohtani was put back on the hill late in a season in which the club was already out of contention. Having received platelet-rich plasma and stem cell treatment, and completed a course of rest and rehabilitation, Ohtani was deemed ready to test the ligament. Had Ohtani instead waited until next spring to take the bump, only then to find that it could not withstand full-throttle pitching, then the recovery timeline would have prevented him from hitting for much or all of the 2019 season and perhaps forced his pitching rehab to push into the 2020 campaign.

The good news for the Angels here is that they are still playing with house money so far as Ohtani is concerned. Because he chose to cross the Pacific before he was eligible to sign outside of the existing MLB international spending caps, he has been limited to a relatively meager signing bonus and the MLB minimum salary. The organization still possesses five full seasons of control beyond the present one.

Still, it’s another hugely disappointing injury for an organization that has had more than its fair share of late. Having already dealt with numerous pitching injuries in recent seasons, this year’s Halos roster went without players such as Zack Cozart, Garrett Richards, and Matt Shoemaker for long stretches. While Shoemaker is now back on track to be a factor in 2019, Richards will hit the open market after succumbing to TJS this summer. The Angels’ front office will face a difficult task in putting together a competitive rotation.

Looking ahead for Ohtani, the news will no doubt re-spark the debate as to whether he would be able to perform as both a pitcher and a hitter at the game’s highest level. Some may now wonder whether that effort will be shelved. But it’s frankly hard to imagine either player or team desiring to cut short what has thus far been an unbelievably successful attempt. In his first attempt at the major leagues, Ohtani has turned in 274 plate appearances of .276/.355/.547 hitting, with 16 home runs and six steals, along with 51 2/3 innings of 3.31 ERA pitching, supported by 11.0 K/9 against 3.8 BB/9.

If anything, perhaps, Ohtani and the Halos will need to assess just how to allow him to perform with the bat in 2018 without jeopardizing his throwing rehab. With nearly six months to go before camp opens, there’s plenty of time for a plan to be mapped out. Though we’ll all be robbed of a chance to see Ohtani’s amazing two-way spectacle for the time being, there’s still reason to hope he’ll be able to resume the grand experiment in 2020.
 

Heim

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If Ohtani becomes full-time DH I can only hope that will mean less ABs for Pujols. It's no surprise since he went down they're winning.
 
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