One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

mrbowling300

EOG Dedicated
Saw this article today:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/07...t-thing-for-penn-state/#.UAhYr9rRRfs.facebook

By: Eric Thomas

Penn State still seems to be weaving in the wake of the Freeh report last week. They trotted out the board of trustees who seemed unprepared at best. They faced a line of cameras and all did a blurry version of murmurs and blinking. It’s a tough thing to do. Your instinct is to lash out at those who would do your meal ticket harm, but in light of the ‘pedophile’ situation they must stand under Klieg lights for their whipping. I imagine the trustees had to bury their feelings. Forced to stand on national television hiding behind a mask of stoicism, they hid a hurricane of shame, disappointment and betrayal. They need to pull it together and welcome the death penalty with open arms. It will be the best thing for them.

The nation is watching and those with their hand on the scythe know that. The NCAA is perched, waiting to deliver the sentence. There is little doubt, to me anyway, that Penn State will get the death penalty. The 24-hour media means that judgment is rendered without perspective or consideration. You are either for something or against something and there is little time for meditation. I don’t agree with this. In fact, I think that the death of debate and discussion is one of the most depressing developments in society today. Part of the foundation of this country was standing up to the ignorance of the bloodthirsty mob. It’s like we have some kind of deference for decisive animals these days. Nonetheless, if you assign anything other than the harshest form of punishment, you are hung with a sign that says ‘defending pedophiles’.
Penn State has to understand that JoePa et al. did this to themselves. There is no reason to stand in any truculence to the wave. It seems like the football world, especially college, is waking up and rubbing their eyes to what we all know to be the case. A lot of people are struggling with the idea that Paterno’s decades of goodwill has been erased with one decision. Football has been elevated to religion for many people (this writer included at times), and when a Seraph falls as far as this one has they struggle with what it means. It makes their own accomplishments seem mortal and fragile. They are coming to the conclusion that statues can be taken down and removed from the halls of fame.
Yes, the statue should come down. They can bury it with him. When you do, it will serve as a lesson to everyone who watches. It proves once and for all that actions have consequences. No matter whom you are and what you worship, you are not above a community and its outrage. There was a pall of confidence at Penn State. Support of those around him was a foregone conclusion, as he was their messiah. Remember, Paterno’s answer for ‘how to heal the wounds’ of his community was to continue coaching the football team. The longer the trustees and faculty curl fingers around this phylactery, the worse it’s going to get.
If Penn State is pasted with the death penalty, they will have been given a gift. Some inmates who ride the needle embrace it enthusiastically, and view it as the only penance they can perform to soothe the sting of their sins. State College should adopt this view. If they are allowed to continue without paying a penalty, the pallor will hang in the history of the University. As Mike Vick would probably tell you, it’s best to get the punishment out of the way. Serve the penalty and your sins are absolved, or live in the purgatory of constant judgment forever.
Embrace the punishment. Agree with it. This will be with the Nittany Lions forever, but at least you can shrug and say afterward, ‘I did my time.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

Let's discipline the five men who were found guilty and/or negligent.

Come down hard on Sandusky, Spanier, Schultz, Curley and Joe Paterno's legacy.

Why punish the innocent bystanders (fans and players) when they had no idea about Sandusky's creepy behavior or the impending cover-up?
 

LCD

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Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

Because the innocent bystanders were a part of the reason why this happened. They're the one's who created and celebrated a culture in which a football coach could have a painting made of him with a fucking halo on his head.

The problem was never confined to those five people. It wasn't just the five people who knew about this. There were a lot more. And what about all the people who went along with bad decision after decision in the last 20 years. Who supported or enabled or celebrated some semi-senile coach who was allowed to save his pedophile friend and shit in his pants on the sideline and basically got to do whatever he wanted with no opposition. Well, there was opposition but every time some academic advisor tried to confront the crazy culture there, they were forced out. I've talked to alumni and they're still in denial about it. Students are guarding the statute. People are still getting their pictures taken in front of it.

My feeling is that nothing, absolutely nothing, not the students, not the vendors at the stadium (like anyone really gives a shit about them), not the alumni, not the players really matters in this.

What matters is that the dozen (there's obviously many, many more since Sandusky was doing crap the whole time he was there and childhood rape victims don't clamor for attention) victims don't have to turn on the TV on a Saturday afternoon in the fall and watch a school cheer for a program that allowed them to get raped and then covered it up. All the crap you hear about how everyone needs to move on. You think the kids who were raped get to move on.

Fuck PSU. If you can't stop your football coaches from grooming and raping at-risk children and then covering it up you don't deserve to have the program that allowed it to happen.

PSU has got the best wrestling program in the country. They have other good teams. The students and alumni can watch them instead.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

There is no casual relationship between what happened with Sandusky and what
materialized on the field....Joe gave him access to the lockeroom after being put on
notice of his derelict.....that doesn't deserve the death penalty although a colossal
mistake. How far are we going to reach here? Should we also take Joe's 409
wins away and give the wins title back to Eddie Robinson like the City Attorney
for Grambling, LA proposed today with the infractions committee of the NCAA?
 

Bucky

EOG Dedicated
Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

This was a crime but how did Sandusky's crimes help Penn State win football games? Isn't that the purpose of the NCAA infractions committee?

Let's say, the crime committed by Sandusky was conspiring to to rob a bank, steal art from a museum, cheat on his income taxes, bludgeon baby seals? And used Penn State resources and assistance knowingly or unknowingly to do so? If Sandusky had robbed a bank - shot 3 tellers and a bank guard and had been practicing the crime in the Penn State weight room for years and nobody had reported it? Would you suggest the death penalty to the football program?

This was a heinous crime and Sandusky should be punished but what happened did not give Penn State an advantage in recruiting or financial enticement for players or coaches. A person that worked for Penn state committed crimes. But, blaming the football program for the crimes Sandusky committed is stretching it.

Civil lawsuits themselves might be enough to put Penn State football out of business or at least Penn State's insurance company. Apparently, there are no further grand jury proceedings to indict anyone else who was negligent or complicit.
 

smartymarty

EOG Veteran
Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

death penalty hurts school and players. i am not informed enough to know if the players were aware of what was going on. assume for a moment players in the dark.
hurt the school---large % revenues go to helping children
if players innocent let them play with recognition.
 

texansfan

EOG Master
Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

This was a crime but how did Sandusky's crimes help Penn State win football games? Isn't that the purpose of the NCAA infractions committee?

Let's say, the crime committed by Sandusky was conspiring to to rob a bank, steal art from a museum, cheat on his income taxes, bludgeon baby seals? And used Penn State resources and assistance knowingly or unknowingly to do so? If Sandusky had robbed a bank - shot 3 tellers and a bank guard and had been practicing the crime in the Penn State weight room for years and nobody had reported it? Would you suggest the death penalty to the football program?

This was a heinous crime and Sandusky should be punished but what happened did not give Penn State an advantage in recruiting or financial enticement for players or coaches. A person that worked for Penn state committed crimes. But, blaming the football program for the crimes Sandusky committed is stretching it.

Civil lawsuits themselves might be enough to put Penn State football out of business or at least Penn State's insurance company. Apparently, there are no further grand jury proceedings to indict anyone else who was negligent or complicit.


Well, out the four involved, one is in jail, two are indicted, and one is dead.
 

LCD

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Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

So you're saying that only if a crime is committed that helps Penn State win football games then there should be the death penalty. All that matters is that there be a level playing field and the integrity of the games you watch on TV is important.

A person that worked for the Penn State football program committed crimes. He committed those crimes in Penn State football facilities. Those crimes were covered up by the head football coach and other assistant football coaches and the administration. Do you think that if a Penn State fencing or volleyball coach had raped children it would have been covered up. It was because of the stature of the program and the power of the head coach at that particular institution that allowed this all to happen. No other schools are guarding statues and painting and removing halos and rioting. Even in football mad places like Alabama or USC or Florida this shit would never have happened. It's that particular football program and the campus culture that enabled it that deserves to be punished.

Let the players transfer without penalty. Close it down and let the creepy PSU alums figure out a better hook to hang their collegiate identity on than that football team.
 

mrbowling300

EOG Dedicated
Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

In reality, what's going to happen is PSU will get a slap on the wrist by the NCAA. They will respond to the report indicating what corrective measures have been taken to make sure this will never happen again. They will set up a fund to raises child abuse awareness, or something like that to get positive PR. The will take the statue down. And football will go on. The bottom line is PSU and the NCAA are whores....PSU football generates a heck of a lot of money...to much just to kill it. They will come up with some spin and figure a way not to kill the golden goose.
 

Bucky

EOG Dedicated
Re: One Man's Opinion: Death Penalty Would Be The Best Thing For Penn State

Well, what about legal precedent? If the NCAA imposed the death penalty and Penn state sued?

The NCAA cannot do just whatever they want and make up rules and regulations as they go. What's are best guess on who would win that lawsuit?

I do agree with you that it was football at Penn State and anybody else would have been thrown under the bus. But, what are the legal rights to the players and other coaches? Is it unfair to them to be penalized for what Sandusky did? Would those players and coaches have a lawsuit versus the NCAA if a death penalty were imposed?
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
Friday, November 9

What is Barron hiding? It's called fraud

The A7's comprehensive review of the Freeh Report will expose the fraud perpetrated by the inner circle of the PSU BOT, former FBI Director Louis Freeh, and the NCAA

By
Ray Blehar
November 9, 2018, 7:10 AM EST

For two prior football home game weekends, former Penn State University (PSU) Board of Trustee (BOT) member Anthony Lubrano ran full page advertisements in the Centre Daily Times (CDT) asking PSU President Eric Barron to make public the findings of an exhaustive review of the Freeh Report that was conducted by seven of the alumni elected trustees (a.k.a., the A7).

Just to make sure Barron didn’t somehow overlook his first request in the CDT, Lubrano also used a banner plane to get his message out, asking point blank: “Pres. Barron What Are You Hiding? Release the Report.”






What is Barron hiding?

In January 2015, President Barron provided a glimpse into his review of the Freeh Report and it confirmed that the report was not credible.


“I'm not a fan of the report....Freeh steered everything as if he was a prosecutor trying to convince a court to take the case. Barron added that the report "very clearly paints a picture about every student, every faculty member, every staff member and every alum. And it's absurd. It's unwarranted. So from my viewpoint the Freeh report is not useful to make decisions."


The last line of that passage is likely why we haven’t heard more of Barron’s review of the report. Barron’s statement that it wasn’t useful to make decisions flies in the face of the Trustees and administrators at the top of the University who threw away hundreds of millions of dollars based on Freeh’s faulty conclusions.


To be clear, former President Rodney Erickson, Ken Frazier, and others weren’t bedazzled by Freeh’s bullshit or bullied by the NCAA into agreeing to draconian sanctions. They were in on this fraud from the start.


It's not a stretch at all to call what happened a fraud. Here is the definition from Merriam Webster and, in my opinion, it fits Louis Freeh and his investigation perfectly.


1a: DECEIT, TRICKERY specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right
b: an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : TRICK
2a: a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : IMPOSTER
also : one who defrauds : CHEAT
one that is not what it seems or is represented to be



Barron, like Erickson before him, serves at the pleasure of the controlling majority of the PSU BOT. The decision to not release the A7's report appears to be nothing more than a cover-up of a multi-million dollar fraud.


https://notpsu.blogspot.com/2018/11...WBge_HfjAGzqrIZo0vlMRVNnwhA4xqtw1fWR8AvhkxBq8

 
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