OT: George Zimmerman-Treyvon Martin Incident *Merged*

PO69

EOG Master
Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

This is my first post on this issue, but I am tired of hearing all of the shit on TV. The media is portraying Trayvon as some innocent kid, yeah bull-fucking shit!


Give me Zimmerman found innocent for the max please
 

PO69

EOG Master
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Sure maybe he didnt have to shoot the kid, but he was getting his ASS kicked! No one around to help, the MAN could have killed him!


Check out the weight difference that the media has been reporting in the next post. Trayvon was MUCH BIGGER than George



A soup to nuts deconstruction of the lies and obfuscations by the media in the Trayvon Martin case. Along with verified fact based information


Today even more new facts surrounding Trayvon Martin have been discovered thanks to the New Media doing the work the Institutional Lame Stream Legacy Media intentionally refuses to do. Simultaneously we discover how many lies and falsehoods are continuing. Just today they include:


      • Media lying about George Zimmerman’s weight
      • A new batch of lawyers for Mom and Dad
      • Revelations about Trayvon’s girlfriend refusing to cooperate with police from the beginning
      • Revelations about George Zimmerman’s prior 2005 arrest which the media falsified in their prior reporting.
      • Revelations about how Zimmerman was appointed as Neighborhood Watch Captain by the Home Owners Association request, and the black residents praise. Again falsely reported by the agenda-driven media.
      • Evidence of CNN intentional lying and bias by Piers Morgan.
      • and much more…
In short. This is perhaps the biggest national racial event since Rodney King. It is also shaping up to be the biggest media driven false public story since Richard Jewell. It’s in the process of becoming a watershed event; And it’s almost entirely fake. It’s a tempest in a tea-cup.
The whole thing is an institutionally media-generated racialist/socialist psychopolitical agitator’s dream come true.
Today we will update and continue to outline and contrast the false narrative sold by the Legacy media types, TV, Print and Radio including: ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, PBS, Associated Press, Reuters Media, USA Today, New York Times and other like-minded affiliates.
For the sake of these continuing posts we are going to focus entirely on Trayvon Martin and not the infinite various nuances and side stories spinning out of the false narrative. I apologize for the length, but accuracy matters and context is needed.

SUMMARY of Content: In summary we now know that Trayvon Martin was not the innocent 17-year-old (junior year) High School kid portrayed by the media as: a football player, a volunteer mentor, a math loving student, and loving respectful child, who was serving a <del>five day</del> ten day suspension for tardiness. This was, and is, a complete fabrication. The truth is divergent in the extreme.
But that picture of an innocent child was exactly what the media wanted to sell, because it fit their chosen narrative.
The media even doctored photographs to make Trayvon look more child like.
It is also what the professional race-baiting Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, New Black Panther party wanted to portray; and it should be mentioned at the time of this writing they are still bitterly clinging to it. But losing grip rapidly.

Real photo Doctored By Media Photo
When the truth is being presented, one does not have to work so hard to control, portray obfuscate and spin. The media have been working very hard because the media has not been presenting ‘the truth’.

But now, against the shere weight of the truth-telling, research, and presentation of facts by the New Media, the Legacy media is beginning to backtrack. Their false construction is crumbling around them.
However, we are not going to let them just skulk back into the shadows. They, the media, created this mess – and make no mistake, this is a huge mistake – and now they are going to be forced to own it. All of it.
We will not allow the media to turn George Zimmerman into Richard Jewell. Not this time. This time we push back. Truth is on our side.
False - The media initially reported that Trayvon was suspended from school for five days because he was tardy. That narrative soon changed to the more truthful ten days. However, they missed the reasoning and a little research revealed much more.
Truth - We now know that Trayvon Martin was suspended from school THREE times in this school year. We do not know the details of the first suspension. But Trayvon Martin was suspended the second time from school in October 2011 for an incident in which he was found in possession of stolen women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that a schools security staffer described as a “burglary tool,” The Miami Herald has learned.
According to the report, on Oct. 21 staffers monitoring a security camera at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School spotted Trayvon and two other students writing “W.T.F.,” an acronym for “What the f—,” on a hallway locker, according to schools police. The security employee, who knew Trayvon, confronted the teen and looked through his bag for the graffiti marker.
Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.
“Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by Miami-Dade Schools Police.
Then in February 2012 that second suspension was followed four months later by another one, in which Trayvon was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it AND a pipe. A schools police report obtained by The Miami Herald specifies two items: a bag with marijuana residue and a “marijuana pipe.”Trayvon was again suspended. This time for ten days.
You can read much more about Trayvon’s drug involvement at Wagist. Click HERE
The Martin family and attorneys et al are furious about the release of background school information to ABC news. Because one of their lawyers, Ben Crump, had filed an injunction to “seal” Trayvon’s school and criminal records earlier this month as soon as he was retained.
The parents argue the background information on Trayvon is irrelevent, yet simultaneously proclaim the background information on George Zimmerman is vital. A tenuous position at best because one of the points of contention is the behavior of both during their encounter.
False – Trayvon was a respectful peer and role model mentor.
Truth - Trayvon left a trail of communication from his twitter account that is retrievable via google cache. His screen name was “NO_LIMIT_*****” and his words speak for themselves. You can read 152 pages of his twitter communication at DAILY CALLER.

The Daily Caller has identified a second Twitter handle that was used by the late Trayvon Martin during the last weeks of 2011. Tweeting in December under the name “T33ZY TAUGHT M3,” Martin sent a message that read, “Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!”

There are also concerning discussions within the twitter communication from Trayvon’s friends about his violent encounter with a School Bus Driver. In the conversation Trayvon is discussing having punched the bus driver in the face.
A reasonable person would think the media would be interested in this aspect. Alas, once again the media shows they only report on that which affirms their pre-scripted narrative. Someone tell Anderson Cooper that it shouldn’t be hard to find that bus driver….. wait, nevermind.
Tattoo on back of Trayvon Martin's neck from Twitter Account. His mom's name is Sybrina

Another picture of Trayvon’s right arm tattoo and physique:



Financial Opportunism

Trayvons mother also applied for Trademarks on his name last week.
Sabrina Fulton (Trayvon’s Mom) is seeking Trademarks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
In both instances, Fulton is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.
The March 21 USPTO applications, each of which cost $325, were filed by an Orlando, Florida law firm representing Fulton.
Odd no? How many “grieving parents do you know that would be concerned with “Trademarking” their dead child’s name? And why?
But then again, the Trayvon “Brand” would be more marketable and valuable if the constructed image of the innocent child victim could continue.
Alas, now it becomes clear, why all of those people who stand to profit from the death of Trayvon, consider any fact based, or truthful, information too risky to the Trayvon brand.
This also explains why Sabrina Fulton (Mom) and Tracy Martin (Dad) hired an attorney named Benjamin Crump. The very first action that Crump took upon retention was to file an injunction to “seal” Trayvon’s school and criminal records. Thereby trying to hide the troubling background.


Discovery of Trayvon’s background presented a risk. Not just a risk of character assassination toward their son per se, but a risk to the “brand image” being created. A financial risk.

All Lawyered Up..

One of the key aspects of this fiasco to keep in mind is the “inability” of George Zimmerman to publicly defend himself or tell his story. Yet the family of Trayvon Martin, and their supporters, can talk 24/7 to every media outlet and personality.
It seems every day a new legal representative face appears in the media, or even on Capitol Hill as an attorney for Tracy Martin (Dad) or Sabrina Fulton (Mom). A partial list of their known lawyers are:

      1. Benjamin Crump Esq. (Family/Natl Media)
      2. Daryl D Parks Esq. (Family/Natl Media/Gov’t Relations)
      3. Ms. Jasmine Rand Esq. (Natl Media/Public Relations)
      4. Ms. Areva Martin Esq. (Family/Natl Media)
      5. Ms. Kimra Major-Morris Esq. (Financial/Family/Media)
This composes only a partial list of the National legal team hired by Trayvon’s family. Compared to Crump, Parks, Rand, Martin and Major-Morris, George Zimmerman is at a significant narrative disadvantage. And this doesn’t include the Florida States Attorney General’s office “Angela Corey”, from the Jacksonville Division, who is conducting the investigation with her 65+ person support team of prosecutors and investigators. Indeed, A flea looking into a furnace.
Also he cannot share his side of the story for two more reasons:
First, because he is litterally under threat of bodily harm and injury. The New Black Panther party has placed a MILLION DOLLAR bounty on his head, “Wanted Dead or Alive”, and tens of thousands of people are rallying daily with the Black Panthers and professional race-baiters.
Even Spike Lee tweeted the address of Zimmerman’s home to his 248,000 followers. Fortunately for Zimmerman Spike Lee sent out the wrong address. However, profoundly unfortunate for the 70-year-old couple living there now housebound with around the clock security.
Secondly, if Zimmerman was to speak now every word, nuance, phrase and intonation would be scrutinized by not only the media, but by law enforcement who are under extreme pressure to arrest Zimmerman, with or without legal merit. He has been advised to keep quiet. He cannot talk without a ridiculous amount of risk.
THE 2005 ZIMMERMAN “ASSAULT” CASE

Another fabrication the media allows to continue without correction surrounds a prior 2005 arrest (non-conviction) of George Zimmerman. The media and talking heads have repeated this mantra long enough to embed it in the psyche of almost every reader/listener. They frame the arrest as a battery charge against a police officer.
But whoa… wait a minute. Arrest with NON-Conviction. Huh? Well the details are more nuanced and they prefer you not to know the full story because the headline fits their narrative, the content doesn’t.
In 2005 Zimmerman was in a bar having a drink with a friend. Unbeknownst to them an undercover sting operation was going on inside the bar with police officers posing as patrons to catch bar operators selling alcohol to minors.
An altercation between one of the undercover (regular clothes) officers and a friend of Zimmerman took place. Zimmerman thought his buddy was about to be in a bar fight so he interjected and shoved the guy away from his friend. The guy was part of the sting. Out of spite for the shove, and potentially frustration for no minor alcohol sales, they arrested Zimmerman and his pal.
One media outlet did report truthfully. ONLY ONE.
In 2005, Zimmerman was charged with resisting arrest with violence. State alcohol agents said Zimmerman pushed them while they were arresting a friend of his during an underage drinking operation at a bar. Zimmerman avoided a conviction by going into a pretrial program that is offered to people with no prior arrests.​
FACTS

Now some facts to deconstruct the left-wing media bias.

On Feb. 26, when Zimmerman first spotted Trayvon, he called police and reported a suspicious person. He called the non-emergency phone number not 911. He was taught to call this number by police as part of the Neighborhood Watch program. He described Trayvon as a black male, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs. Zimmerman was fulfilling his shift on the neighborhood watch patrol. He was Captain of the Neighborhood watch program because the HOA voted him as such. In this gated community there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year.
In fact, the local homeowners’ association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.
In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.
One of the commonly repeated media narratives is of George Zimmerman being a vigilante type personality. Nothing could be further from the truth as outlined in this report from an investigative piece done by The Philadelphia Enquirer, and intentionally ignored by all other National Media Outlets:
[...] people are wondering if the 28-year-old Zimmerman is an earnest if somewhat zealous young man who was just looking out for his neighborhood, or a wannabe cop who tried to take justice into his own hands.
Attorneys for Martin’s parents say Zimmerman is a “loose cannon.”
“He’s a wannabe police officer,” lawyer Benjamin Crump said. “Why did he have a gun?”
But some neighbors welcomed his vigilance, at least before the shooting.
Samantha Leigh Hamilton, an auto-dealership employee who has lived on Zimmerman’s street for about a year, said that she once left her garage door up and Zimmerman noticed it while out walking his dog. He notified another neighbor, who let Hamilton know.
“The only impression I have of George Zimmerman is a good one,” Hamilton said Wednesday.
Hamilton said another neighbor, a black woman, would regularly inform Zimmerman when she was out-of-town so that he could keep an eye on her place. Hamilton said that when she moved into the middle-class, racially mixed community of about 250 identical townhouses, the black neighbor told her, “Hey, if you need anything, you picked a really good area, since George is part of our neighborhood watch.”
Zimmerman, who was captain of the neighborhood watch and licensed to carry a gun, made 46 calls to police since 2004, according to department records.
Hamilton said there had been several break-ins in the past year, including one three doors away in which burglars took a TV and laptops.
“When I hear about him calling the police constantly, it kind of makes sense to me because we had so many break-ins recently,” she said.
The homeowners association’s February newsletter said that Sanford police had beefed up patrols in the neighborhood and that officers on bicycles were making random checks of front yards and backyards. It was not clear how big the neighborhood watch was, but Zimmerman was the dominant force.
If you’ve been the victim of a crime within the community, after calling the police, please contact our captain, George Zimmerman … so we can be aware and help address the issue with other residents,” the newsletter said. It added that the neighborhood watch group was looking for more participants at its monthly meetings.
Zimmerman moved with his parents from Manassas, Va., to Florida about a decade ago. He lived with his parents in nearby Lake Mary for several years before moving to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, records show. He lives in the gated community with his wife, Shellie, a licensed cosmetologist, but is now in hiding because of death threats. (read more)

George Zimmerman would not know Trayvon Martin because Trayvon was visiting, staying with his Dad’s girlfriend in the Orlando sub-division. Both the Dad and the girlfriend were not supervising Trayvon at the time. Neither adult were home.
Much controversy has been “created” by the media about the fact Zimmerman was “following” Trayvon, as if that represented some form of unusual behavior.
Zimmerman was on Neighborhood watch patrol, of course he’s gonna follow the suspicious person. That’s what patrols do. See something suspicious – Say something to police – and Keep watch. DUH?
This point is not in contention by either Zimmerman or his attorney. It is a manufactured talking point of the race-baiters. AND it is being promoted by an agenda driven biased media.
While on the phone with police George Zimmerman stopped the car and got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.
When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he “did not need to do that”. Zimmerman replied “OK”, and immediately turned back toward his SUV.
Much false controversy has been made about the police dispatcher instructing Zimmerman not to follow the person (Trayvon), but it really is a moot point. It is standard protocol for all operators to say “do not engage” because they are told to do so by police departments fearful of being sued. As soon as the police dispatcher told him not to follow, he stopped, turned around and attempted to walk back to his vehicle.
There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they’re not sure what happened next.
According to the police report George Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.
Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police. Trayvon then said, “Well, you do now” or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose, according to the account he gave police. His nose was broken and bleeding when police arrived.
Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.
An independent witness from the next house gave the same descriptive to police of Trayvon on top of Zimmerman punching him and pulling his head up and down slamming it into the sidewalk.
Zimmerman began yelling for help.
Several witnesses heard those cries, and there has been a dispute about whether they came from Zimmerman or Trayvon. Lawyers for Trayvon’s family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was actually Zimmerman requesting help.
One witness, named John, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, “pounding him” — and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help. He described with specificity what both people were wearing and their exact body positioning.
At this point it becomes imperative to point out one of the most blatant media lies. George Zimmerman’s weight.
The media continues to report that George Zimmerman outweighed Trayvon Martin by 100 lbs. You see that report and justification for the impossibility of physical assault everywhere. It is factually wrong.
How did the false reporting start? A reporter researched a prior 2005 arrest report for George Zimmerman which placed his weight at 248 lbs. So that was what they reported as his 2012 weight. 248 lbs.
In actuality he weighs 170 lbs. Yeah, he lost weight in those 7 years.
No-one, not one reporter or TV talking head bothered to check. The 100/lb weight disparity fit the narrative, so they ran with it. Even now with the facts clearly available the media continues to sell the same lie.
So let’s get this straight once and for all, at least here in the world of factual reality:

George Zimmerman 2005 5′ 8″ @248 lbs

George Zimmerman 2012 5′ 8″ @170 lbs

  • George Zimmerman is 5 foot 8 inches 170 lbs
  • Trayvon Martin was between 6 foot even and 6 foot 3 inches (per mom) 160 lbs (according to police report)
IF THEY CAN’T EVEN GET THE DESCRIPTIONS CORRECT WHY WOULD PEOPLE BELIEVE ANYTHING THE MEDIA IS SAYING.?
During the scuffle on the ground Zimmerman began trying to get his handgun out of his belt. Trayvon attempted to get the gun away from Zimmerman. Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest at very close range, according to authorities.
The impact of the shot thrust Trayvon upward, backward, and partially spun him around to land on his stomach.
The handgun was a Kel-Tec PF9 semiautomatic 9mm pistol. The police took immediate custody of the weapon when they arrived on scene. The gun was recovered with a full magazine and only the chambered round had been fired.
This is a condition associated with something preventing the gun from cycling a fresh round from the magazine into the chamber after the shot was discharged. One thing that can cause this condition is another man’s hand wrapped around the pistol, retarding its slide mechanism.
This would indicate, as the coroner’s office affirmed, that specific gunshot residue patterns and cuts were present in certain places on Trayvon Martin’s hand(s), and that a struggle for a gun was taking place when the fatal shot was fired.
When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the broken nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations on the back of his head.
Zimmerman was processed as a potential criminal suspect and placed handcuffed in the rear of the second arriving patrol car. Paramedics from the Fire Dept. gave him first aid in the vehicle upon arrival but he said he did not need to go to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.
He was held in the vehicle while preliminary investigation took place and the crime scene was initially processed. The police retained custody of the handgun.
George Zimmerman was transported to the police department where he was questioned, recorded, and processed. The police questioned Zimmerman for five hours at police headquarters without an attorney present, apparently Zimmerman felt he had nothing to hide. The police report noted Zimmerman was “bleeding from the nose and the back of the head.”

There are conflicting reports on what toxicological evidence was retrieved from Zimmerman. CBS reports none were done. However, that CBS article appears flawed in that regard. A Police Dept. spokesperson told local Orlando media a full toxicology analysis was completed including, blood tests, breathalyzer and the police took residue and swab samples of his hands, arms and body.
In addition the police took custody of his clothing for further evidence processing.
George Zimmerman was fully cooperative with investigators both on the scene and at the police department. He was noticeably shaken and distressed, but fully cooperated with all questions and gave both written and recorded statements for over five hours.
Zimmerman’s statements were compared against witness statements, and against the recorded phone calls including a timeline analysis. In addition, his statements were compared against the physical evidence at the scene. The following day, detectives re-enacted the shooting with Zimmerman at the scene.
After intensive questioning, George Zimmerman was released from custody pending further investigation. The police retained custody of the handgun and clothing of Mr. Zimmerman.
Zimmerman sought medical treatment the following day for his nose, head, face and anxiety.
Trayvon’s body was evaluated, autopsied, and crime scene processed by the coroner’s office.
Who was Trayvon Martin? For the police this became a question difficult to answer. Unfortunately Trayvon was unknown to anyone at the scene, surrounding residences, investigators, police, or any person available for contact within the community.
Completely understandable when you consider Trayvon lived in North Miami, and no-one within the gated Orlando community was familiar with him or where he was from.
It is important to remember that neither Trayvon’s father Tracy Martin, nor his father’s girlfriend were home within the community at the time of the shooting.
Hence the delay in police figuring out who this John Doe actually was.
The shooting happened at approximately 7:15pm on 2/26. Trayvon’s parents were tracked down and notified on 2/28. Between those times, no-one in the Martin family has described making any effort to locate Trayvon. Nor has any Martin family member described themselves filing a missing person report.
ODD STUFF

There is one odd Point of contention from the Mitchell family about a “supposed” phone call Trayvon made during the time Zimmerman was following him.
The call was reportedly to Trayvon’s girlfriend in Miami, who has, according to the Mitchell’s completed an affidavit stating that Trayvon told her on the phone he was being followed.
Both Trayvon’s parents, and their attorney Benjamin Crump think this phone call is an important aspect because it shows George Zimmerman was “following” Trayvon Martin.
The family thinks it is so important they had the girlfriend swear an affidavit to that affect. However, something doesn’t smell right about this because again today we discover something new. There is a lie embedded in this entire “phone call” narrative, but what aspect is false is yet unknown.
Why so sure?
Tonight, Tuesday (3-27) on CNN Piers Morgan Show Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi was questioned about the case and some general aspects surrounding the ongoing investigation. During the conversation about wanting to get to the bottom of everything. Pam Bondi specifically stated that Trayvon’s girlfriend had previously been unwilling to cooperate with police.
Bondi stated she was hopeful that Trayvon’s girlfriend would now become more cooperative, because since the time of the initial early investigation, up to and including all subsequent inquiries, she has been unwilling to talk to police or provide records of the phone call. She has refused numerous times to be interviewed and would not provide a statement to police, nor allow herself to be interviewed even with legal representation.
Why? Well, I’ve got a strong hunch, but it is supposition so I’ll not go there because for the sake of intellectual honesty every cintilla of verbage on this subject up to this point is factual, fact based, and verifiable.

However, I’m not sure why this phone call is even a point of contention.
Again, neither the police, nor Zimmerman dispute the fact Trayvon was being followed by Zimmerman. If anything it leads further credibility to Zimmerman’s explanation of events.
However, again I note while the parents of Trayvon are stating they are in possession of a sworn affidavit from the girlfriend, she has never allowed herself to swear the same to police or law enforcement. She has refused any and all attempts at being interviewed.
Perhaps even more alarmingly, if she’s being truthful, this aspect does bring up a general common sense question:
“If” this phone call was actually taking place during part of the time Zimmerman was following Trayvon, and if Trayvon told his girlfriend that someone was following him, then why wasn’t anyone worried or looking for Trayvon when he didn’t show up or come home.?
If anything this bit of information makes it even more odd that Mom, Dad, or Trayvon’s girlfriend were not worried even more about where he was.
There are two obvious really tragic aspects to his death. One is the shooting, and a life cut so short.
But with a full measure of brutal honestly, another is the culpability of his non-engaged parents in creating a morally undisciplined teenager.
Their visible outrage now showcased in the media is understandable given their grief. But perhaps a dose of guilt is intertwined.
Apparently it should be.
 

PO69

EOG Master
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

I wonder if George has a bookmaker account? I should send him $250 for his legal defense
 
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

why not cash out and send him 500?
 

KingRevolver

Born Rambler
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

:LMAO
 

PO69

EOG Master
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Well I was thinking that George might want to bet on Dancing with the Stars this week!


I mean he might be getting a little bored and might want to bet on his favorite show. Lets face it, George is a closet homosexual
 

PO69

EOG Master
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

why not cash out and send him 500?


I have to admit that $250 is my max! I dont a shit about him that much!


Hell am I the only one who cant WAIT until he is found innocent and seeing the uproar???


I mean I would DEFINITELY give the extra $250 to someone else to kill one or 2 of these black thugs that hand around outside of the mall with their hoodies and their pants around their knees
 

joeblow

EOG Addicted
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Since no one has actually seen the evidence that's behind the prosecution, you can't get a valid answer if he is innocent or not.

My personal feeling is that it will be impossible to gain a conviction, given the way the law in Florida reads.
 

sunnyisle

EOG Dedicated
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

mass riots / not guilty:pop:
 

PO69

EOG Master
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

I think that I will start a MASS RIOT if he is found guilty!!



I am going to rally all of the housekeepers from my neighborhood.............rally all of the landscapers (guys who mow lawns, aka mofome).................... and rally all of the workers at Taco Bell and we are going to rally all the way to Washington................or the border, whichever is closer
 

PO69

EOG Master
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Kinger, can we have a Zimmerman is innocent contest?

Zimmerman esta candaroso especial
 
Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

Re: Guys, Zimmerman is innocent! Lets cut all of this media bullshit!

I have to admit that $250 is my max! I dont a shit about him that much!


Hell am I the only one who cant WAIT until he is found innocent and seeing the uproar???


I mean I would DEFINITELY give the extra $250 to someone else to kill one or 2 of these black thugs that hand around outside of the mall with their hoodies and their pants around their knees
LOL po offering up 125 per coon:LMAO
 
Re: Zimmerman Gets More Than $200,000 in Donations to his Pay-Pal Account.

Re: Zimmerman Gets More Than $200,000 in Donations to his Pay-Pal Account.

yeah william pee is a little dipshit
 

carolinakid

Banned
Re: OT: George Zimmerman-Treyvon Martin Incident *Merged*

a little like going deer hunting i guess, i wonder what the limit for 1 day is lol
 

carolinakid

Banned
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I wonder what the deal with the media in this case, trying for so long to trump up this kid as a little boy, that could never do wrong, it the same in a way with Obama and it seems he has the media in his back pocket.........
 

Teddy kgb

Banned
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I wonder what the deal with the media in this case, trying for so long to trump up this kid as a little boy, that could never do wrong.

I find that disturbing as well, why no apology for getting so many facts wrong? why no correction in local papers? Peolpe magizine comes out 2 months after the shooting and still post the wrong pictures on the front page of their rag.

Richard Jewel got paid a ton in lawsuits I hope Zim gets the same.
 

carolinakid

Banned
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Teddy yes i was in a food checkout a few weeks ago and on the maz rack they still had this kid looking like 10 yr on the front cover of a maz, this is what i dont get in this case at all.Maybe they need to call a few in from his school to tell what the real kid was like and not this made up kid in what the media tried to show on a daily thing
 

DJDalamar

EOG Dedicated
Re: OT: George Zimmerman-Treyvon Martin Incident *Merged*

The thing that I keep coming back to is how would I react in the same situation.

Would I agree to be on the NW? Yes

Would I think someone I never seen before in my gated neighborhood was suspicious? Yes

Would I call the cops? Yes if that's what NW is suppose to do when seeing something suspicious.

Would I have followed him? Yes even after dispatch told me I didn't need to. What good is it if you lose him?

Would I carry my gun with me? Maybe I would probably asks neighbors how they feel and if they felt I should I would.

If I got into a physical altercation would I shoot? Yes you have to even if he's not armed cause what if he gets your gun from you and pulls it on you? Cops don't go into crowds for that very reason.

So unless something new comes out I just don't see any racial issues here that everyone is trying to make it. You can argue that he shouldn't have had the gun in the first place but he was legally able to carry it so it's a mute point.
 

carolinakid

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How many monkeys does it take to change a lightbulb?


[TD="align: center"]A:[/TD]

Two. One to do it and one to scratch his butt.


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carolinakid

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[FONT=times new roman,helvetica]Q: How many blacks does it take to change a lightbulb ?
A: Three: One to boogie up the ladder, two to keep the beat.[/FONT]
 

DJDalamar

EOG Dedicated
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CK if your going to post racist jokes at least make them funny. Those are just stupid.
 

carolinakid

Banned
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i was trying to get on Lee level, sorry, i will try to do better.............
 

eberetta1

EOG Addicted
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This is going to pass the 1 million posts thread that has been going for two or three years. can't believe the number of responses in this thread.
 

Timely Hero

Jacoby Blows
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The thing that I keep coming back to is how would I react in the same situation.

Would I agree to be on the NW? Yes

Would I think someone I never seen before in my gated neighborhood was suspicious? Yes

Would I call the cops? Yes if that's what NW is suppose to do when seeing something suspicious.

Would I have followed him? Yes even after dispatch told me I didn't need to. What good is it if you lose him?

Would I carry my gun with me? Maybe I would probably asks neighbors how they feel and if they felt I should I would.

If I got into a physical altercation would I shoot? Yes you have to even if he's not armed cause what if he gets your gun from you and pulls it on you? Cops don't go into crowds for that very reason.

So unless something new comes out I just don't see any racial issues here that everyone is trying to make it. You can argue that he shouldn't have had the gun in the first place but he was legally able to carry it so it's a mute point.

Get a life. How about that?
 

carolinakid

Banned
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Timely DJ was spot on with his statements and i would hope most everyone here would have the same.....
 

VegasRandy

EOG Veteran
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Here is a article about what was going on in Zimmermans neighborhood prior to the shooting...

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<ROOT></ROOT>SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009.
The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, Florida, George called the owner to complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law's dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again. An officer came to the house, county records show.
"Don't use pepper spray," he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. "It'll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter second for the dog to jump you," he said.
"Get a gun."
That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits. In early December, another source close to them told Reuters, the couple bought a pair of guns. George picked a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun, a popular, lightweight weapon.
By June 2011, Zimmerman's attention had shifted from a loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.
Few of his closest neighbors knew he carried a gun - until two months ago.
On February 26, George Zimmerman shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in what Zimmerman says was self-defense. The furor that ensued has consumed the country and prompted a re-examination of guns, race and self-defense laws enacted in nearly half the United States.
During the time Zimmerman was in hiding, his detractors defined him as a vigilante who had decided Martin was suspicious merely because he was black. After Zimmerman was finally arrested on a charge of second-degree murder more than six weeks after the shooting, prosecutors portrayed him as a violent and angry man who disregarded authority by pursuing the 17-year-old.
But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman's past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting.
Based on extensive interviews with relatives, friends, neighbors, schoolmates and co-workers of Zimmerman in two states, law enforcement officials, and reviews of court documents and police reports, the story sheds new light on the man at the center of one of the most controversial homicide cases in America.
The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.
A criminal justice student who aspired to become a judge, Zimmerman also concerned himself with the safety of his neighbors after a series of break-ins committed by young African-American men.
Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account.
"Let's talk about the elephant in the room. I'm black, OK?" the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. "There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood," she said. "That's why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin."
"MIXED" HOUSEHOLD
George Michael Zimmerman was born in 1983 to Robert and Gladys Zimmerman, the third of four children. Robert Zimmerman Sr. was a U.S. Army veteran who served in Vietnam in 1970, and was stationed at Fort Myer in Arlington, Virginia, in 1975 with Gladys Mesa's brother George. Zimmerman Sr. also served two tours in Korea, and spent the final 10 years of his 22-year military career in the Pentagon, working for the Department of Defense, a family member said.
In his final years in Virginia before retiring to Florida, Robert Zimmerman served as a magistrate in Fairfax County's 19th Judicial District.
Robert and Gladys met in January 1975, when George Mesa brought along his army buddy to his sister's birthday party. She was visiting from Peru, on vacation from her job there as a physical education teacher. Robert was a Baptist, Gladys was Catholic. They soon married, in a Catholic ceremony in Alexandria, and moved to nearby Manassas.
Gladys came to lead a small but growing Catholic Hispanic enclave within the All Saints Catholic Church parish in the late 1970s, where she was involved in the church's outreach programs. Gladys would bring young George along with her on "home visits" to poor families, said a family friend, Teresa Post.
"It was part of their upbringing to know that there are people in need, people more in need than themselves," said Post, a Peruvian immigrant who lived with the Zimmermans for a time.
Post recalls evening prayers before dinner in the ethnically diverse Zimmerman household, which included siblings Robert Jr., Grace, and Dawn. "It wasn't only white or only Hispanic or only black - it was mixed," she said.
Zimmerman's maternal grandmother, Cristina, who had lived with the Zimmermans since 1978, worked as a babysitter for years during Zimmerman's childhood. For several years she cared for two African-American girls who ate their meals at the Zimmerman house and went back and forth to school each day with the Zimmerman children.
"They were part of the household for years, until they were old enough to be on their own," Post said.
Zimmerman served as an altar boy at All Saints from age 7 to 17, church members said.
"He wasn't the type where, you know, 'I'm being forced to do this,' and a dragging-his-feet Catholic," said Sandra Vega, who went to high school with George and his siblings. "He was an altar boy for years, and then worked in the rectory too. He has a really good heart."
George grew up bilingual, and by age 10 he was often called to the Haydon Elementary School principal's office to act as a translator between administrators and immigrant parents. At 14 he became obsessed with becoming a Marine, a relative said, joining the after-school ROTC program at Grace E. Metz Middle School and polishing his boots by night. At 15, he worked three part-time jobs - in a Mexican restaurant, for the rectory, and washing cars - on nights and weekends, to save up for a car.
After graduating from Osbourn High School in 2001, Zimmerman moved to Lake Mary, Florida, a town neighboring Sanford. His parents purchased a retirement home there in 2002, in part to bring Cristina, who suffers from arthritis, to a warmer climate.
YOUNG INSURANCE AGENT
On his own at 18, George got a job at an insurance agency and began to take classes at night to earn a license to sell insurance. He grew friendly with a real estate agent named Lee Ann Benjamin, who shared office space in the building, and later her husband, John Donnelly, a Sanford attorney.
"George impressed me right off the bat as just a real go-getter," Donnelly said. "He was working days and taking all these classes at night, passing all the insurance classes, not just for home insurance, but auto insurance and everything. He wanted to open his own office - and he did."
In 2004, Zimmerman partnered with an African-American friend and opened up an Allstate insurance satellite office, Donnelly said.
Then came 2005, and a series of troubles. Zimmerman's business failed, he was arrested, and he broke off an engagement with a woman who filed a restraining order against him.
That July, Zimmerman was charged with resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer after shoving an undercover alcohol-control agent who was arresting an under-age friend of Zimmerman's at a bar. He avoided conviction by agreeing to participate in a pre-trial diversion program that included anger-management classes.
In August, Zimmerman's fiancee at the time, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman reciprocated with his own order on the same grounds, and both orders were granted. The relationship ended.
In 2007 he married Shellie Dean, a licensed cosmetologist, and in 2009 the couple rented a townhouse in the Retreat at Twin Lakes. Zimmerman had bounced from job to job for a couple of years, working at a car dealership and a mortgage company. At times, according to testimony from Shellie at a bond hearing for Zimmerman last week, the couple filed for unemployment benefits.
Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College in 2009, and in December 2011 he was permitted to participate in a school graduation ceremony, despite being a course credit shy of his associate's degree in criminal justice. Zimmerman was completing that course credit when the shooting occurred.
On March 22, nearly a month after the shooting and with the controversy by then swirling nationwide, the school issued a press release saying it was taking the "unusual, but necessary" step of withdrawing Zimmerman's enrollment, citing "the safety of our students on campus as well as for Mr. Zimmerman."
A NEIGHBORHOOD IN FEAR
By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins. Previously a family-friendly, first-time homeowner community, it was devastated by the recession that hit the Florida housing market, and transient renters began to occupy some of the 263 town houses in the complex. Vandalism and occasional drug activity were reported, and home values plunged. One resident who bought his home in 2006 for $250,000 said it was worth $80,000 today.
At least eight burglaries were reported within Twin Lakes in the 14 months prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting, according to the Sanford Police Department. Yet in a series of interviews, Twin Lakes residents said dozens of reports of attempted break-ins and would-be burglars casing homes had created an atmosphere of growing fear in the neighborhood.
In several of the incidents, witnesses identified the suspects to police as young black men. Twin Lakes is about 50 percent white, with an African-American and Hispanic population of about 20 percent each, roughly similar to the surrounding city of Sanford, according to U.S. Census data.
One morning in July 2011, a black teenager walked up to Zimmerman's front porch and stole a bicycle, neighbors told Reuters. A police report was taken, though the bicycle was not recovered.
But it was the August incursion into the home of Olivia Bertalan that really troubled the neighborhood, particularly Zimmerman. Shellie was home most days, taking online courses towards certification as a registered nurse.
On August 3, Bertalan was at home with her infant son while her husband, Michael, was at work. She watched from a downstairs window, she said, as two black men repeatedly rang her doorbell and then entered through a sliding door at the back of the house. She ran upstairs, locked herself inside the boy's bedroom, and called a police dispatcher, whispering frantically.
"I said, 'What am I supposed to do? I hear them coming up the stairs!'" she told Reuters. Bertalan tried to coo her crying child into silence and armed herself with a pair of rusty scissors.
Police arrived just as the burglars - who had been trying to disconnect the couple's television - fled out a back door. Shellie Zimmerman saw a black male teen running through her backyard and reported it to police.
After police left Bertalan, George Zimmerman arrived at the front door in a shirt and tie, she said. He gave her his contact numbers on an index card and invited her to visit his wife if she ever felt unsafe. He returned later and gave her a stronger lock to bolster the sliding door that had been forced open.
"He was so mellow and calm, very helpful and very, very sweet," she said last week. "We didn't really know George at first, but after the break-in we talked to him on a daily basis. People were freaked out. It wasn't just George calling police ... we were calling police at least once a week."
In September, a group of neighbors including Zimmerman approached the homeowners association with their concerns, she said. Zimmerman was asked to head up a new neighborhood watch. He agreed.
"PLEASE CONTACT OUR CAPTAIN"
Police had advised Bertalan to get a dog. She and her husband decided to move out instead, and left two days before the shooting. Zimmerman took the advice.
"He'd already had a mutt that he walked around the neighborhood every night - man, he loved that dog - but after that home invasion he also got a Rottweiler," said Jorge Rodriguez, a friend and neighbor of the Zimmermans.
Around the same time, Zimmerman also gave Rodriguez and his wife, Audria, his contact information, so they could reach him day or night. Rodriguez showed the index card to Reuters. In neat cursive was a list of George and Shellie's home number and cell phones, as well as their emails.
Less than two weeks later, another Twin Lakes home was burglarized, police reports show. Two weeks after that, a home under construction was vandalized.
The Retreat at Twin Lakes e-newsletter for February 2012 noted: "The Sanford PD has announced an increased patrol within our neighborhood ... during peak crime hours.
"If you've been a victim of a crime in the community, after calling police, please contact our captain, George Zimmerman."
EMMANUEL BURGESS - SETTING THE STAGE
On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman placed a call to Sanford police after spotting a young black man he recognized peering into the windows of a neighbor's empty home, according to several friends and neighbors.
"I don't know what he's doing. I don't want to approach him, personally," Zimmerman said in the call, which was recorded. The dispatcher advised him that a patrol car was on the way. By the time police arrived, according to the dispatch report, the suspect had fled.
On February 6, the home of another Twin Lakes resident, Tatiana Demeacis, was burglarized. Two roofers working directly across the street said they saw two African-American men lingering in the yard at the time of the break-in. A new laptop and some gold jewelry were stolen. One of the roofers called police the next day after spotting one of the suspects among a group of male teenagers, three black and one white, on bicycles.
Police found Demeacis's laptop in the backpack of 18-year-old Emmanuel Burgess, police reports show, and charged him with dealing in stolen property. Burgess was the same man Zimmerman had spotted on February 2.
Burgess had committed a series of burglaries on the other side of town in 2008 and 2009, pleaded guilty to several, and spent all of 2010 incarcerated in a juvenile facility, his attorney said. He is now in jail on parole violations.
Three days after Burgess was arrested, Zimmerman's grandmother was hospitalized for an infection, and the following week his father was also admitted for a heart condition. Zimmerman spent a number of those nights on a hospital room couch.
Ten days after his father was hospitalized, Zimmerman noticed another young man in the neighborhood, acting in a way he found familiar, so he made another call to police.
"We've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy," Zimmerman said, as Trayvon Martin returned home from the store.
The last time Zimmerman had called police, to report Burgess, he followed protocol and waited for police to arrive. They were too late, and Burgess got away.
This time, Zimmerman was not so patient, and he disregarded police advice against pursuing Martin.
"These assholes," he muttered in an aside, "they always get away."
After the phone call ended, several minutes passed when the movements of Zimmerman and Martin remain a mystery.
Moments later, Martin lay dead with a bullet in his chest.
(Editing by David Adams, Daniel Trotta and Prudence Crowther)
 

carolinakid

Banned
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was he a good kid grade wise in school, did he ever get kick out of school, did they ever find drug crap on him etc.............2 sides my friend to this story and only 1 side the parents and the media wants out there
 

carolinakid

Banned
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let move on to this KID parents,did he have good parents etc, why was he out walking late at nite, why would the parents let this kid get a gold grill at his age and all the tats, the list goes on, but he was not a kid most parents would model their kids after i really dont think...BOTTOM LINE
 

DJDalamar

EOG Dedicated
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What a comeback Timely how long it take you to come up with that?

Seriously do you have some type of mental handicap? If you do it's ok just let us know and we will be more understanding.
 

KingRevolver

Born Rambler
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George Zimmerman's Wife Arrested on Perjury Charge





Ironically, it looks like she's on a steady diet of Skittles and Sweet Iced Tea.
 

Teddy kgb

Banned
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Total BS, why arent the Black Panther party arrested for the death threats and dead or alive bounties?

Zim and his wife were given money from law abiding White folk and they needed it to hide from groups of Blacks trying to kill them and announcing in public, why should they have used it on bail for a crime that wasn't committed?
 

KingRevolver

Born Rambler
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