Re: Republicans seek to terminate bargaining rights for Wisconsin public employees
Only in the Fascist crowd!!This guy rocks. 91023i2ndw;l
Only in the Fascist crowd!!This guy rocks. 91023i2ndw;l
You forgot to mention in your rewriting of history about Germany how they took away choices and got rid of everyone who did not go along with it.Sounds like you now!!What a strange twist !!
You evidently have no idea how a school runs but keep blaming the teachers while the elected school board officials keep making the decisions okay??Is that sinking in any for you??Get a clue and come back with more then your usual, it's the teachers fault, it's the greedy teachers fault, blame progressives for all the problems, blame the sun, blah, blah, blah.All you have is blame without even knowing where to place it at.Get a clue for shit sakes.
Hitler wanted 80% of the government gone too and things to go his ''way''.Right on cue!!Clearly the taxpaying public is NOT on your side or the polls would reflect that.Why is Newsmax sending out a chain letter via e-mail begging people to vote in favor of Walker??Sounds very desperate to me.If you fire them then who is going to teach?......Walkers little Gestapo wannabe's??What teacher in their right mind would go take a job and be a scab in Wisconsin basically saying yeah give me less money ??Uhm, yeah tank...whatever you say.
I want 80% of government completely dissolved, and you say I'm a 'fascist'. Again, research the meaning of these big words before you decide to use them as pejoratives.
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Gov Walker needs to Reagan these goons: Show up for work within 24 hours or you're fired.
These progressive tamper tantrums are giving Republicans the leverage they have dreamed about to finally trash the entire system and start from scratch.
Clearly, the taxpaying public is on OUR side. Clearly, it is unfair and immoral to keep asking struggling taxpayers to support the privileged public union-class.
Fire them all!! :thumbsup
Hitler wanted 80% of the government gone too and things to go his ''way''.
Who's going to teach? Teachers who want kids to learn and will gladly accept being a graded on performance, like every other (non-union) job.Right on cue!!Clearly the taxpaying public is NOT on your side or the polls would reflect that.Why is Newsmax sending out a chain letter via e-mail begging people to vote in favor of Walker??Sounds very desperate to me.If you fire them then who is going to teach?......Walkers little Gestapo wannabe's??What teacher in their right mind would go take a job and be a scab in Wisconsin basically saying yeah give me less money ??
You know Joe I have had it all wrong.We should let the public decide on what teachers make and what kind of benefits they should receive.Put it on a ballot and let people vote on it right?Does that sound fair to you?
Who's going to teach? Teachers who want kids to learn and will gladly accept being a graded on performance, like every other (non-union) job.
Why do you think struggling taxpayers should continue to support a privileged class? I thought libs believed in equality? :+clueless
You know Joe I have had it all wrong.We should let the public decide on what teachers make and what kind of benefits they should receive.Put it on a ballot and let people vote on it right?Does that sound fair to you?
"I'm sure the President knows that most federal employees do not have collective bargaining for wages and benefits while our plan allows it for base pay. And I'm sure the President knows that the average federal worker pays twice as much for health insurance as what we are asking for in Wisconsin. At least I would hope he knows these facts.
"Furthermore, I’m sure the President knows that we have repeatedly praised the more than 300,000 government workers who come to work every day in Wisconsin.
I’m sure that President Obama simply misunderstands the issues in Wisconsin, and isn’t acting like the union bosses in saying one thing and doing another."
Wisconsin voters express buyer’s remorse over Gov. Scott Walkertank, you are out of your mind if you think public unions are going to win this war. The way I see it, their downfall will be their inability to adapt with the times, something you alluded to earlier. "Too little, too late" As I predicted, you're going to lose every 'centrist' and independent in the country because any non-union member recognizes public unions exist to work against the financial interests of struggling taxpayers.
Leave the idiot Obama out of this please!!He is such a handicap to the cause!!Besides he should have some global warming or something else to occupy his time with rather then screwing this up too.Madison– Today President Obama again weighed in against Governor Walker’s proposal to balance the state’s budget deficit by having state government workers contribute a modest amount toward their own pensions and pay 12.6 percent toward their healthcare premiums.
In response to the President’s comments, the Governor’s Press Secretary Cullen Werwie issued the following statement:
WOW! That's what I call an iron fist in a velvet glove. Brilliant! :btj:
Mister tank, I believe unions could be developing into THE issue for 2012. :+excited-
I love how when the Tea Party does this it is called expressing their 1st Amendment Rights , but when someone else does it is called bullying and they are thugs and goons!!Sounds like some pussies need to grow a pair .Is the guy alright??Did he get hurt??Was he traumatized? Is he going to okay??Grow a pair boys and quit whining and crying!!This is what unions call "collective bargaining":
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I call it COLLECTIVE BULLYING.
Goons. 2938u4ji23
The rules they make do not apply to them.Just remember that corporations are people too.If the Wisconsin governor and other republicans are so into taking away workers' rights and protections, maybe the politicians should volunteer to be in office at-will, with no term protections, subject to recall at any time. Let Republicans also be faced with losing everything, just like they want the employees to experience. Otherwise they should stop concerning themselves with teachers making 40k per year and focus on the real problems in government.
The rules they make do not apply to them.Just remember that corporations are people too.
Union treasuries – filled by dues paid by union members – not only fund programs benefiting union members and their families. The money they collect also pays six-figure compensation packages for labor leaders and provides millions of dollars for Democratic causes and candidates.
The Center for Public Integrity found compensation for leaders of the 10 largest unions ranged from $173,000 at the United Auto Workers to $618,000 at the Laborers’ International Union of North America, and almost $480,000 for the president of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees. The latter is the target of GOP governors in Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee and Kansas.
The union reports, filed with the Department of Labor, list compensation for all union employees and officers. Salaries make up the biggest portion, but other benefits can include tens of thousands of dollars for meal allowances, mileage allowances and entertainment. Health care and pension contributions are not specifically addressed.
The reports show that assets of the various labor unions run into the hundreds of millions of dollars, and payrolls rival midsize companies. Among the Top 10 unions, dozens of top officials have salary-and-benefit packages that rank them among the top percentage of income-earners in the country.
The membership of AFSCME, which evolved from a state employees union organized in Wisconsin in 1932, has grown by 25% over the last decade. [Gerald] McEntee, who has been president since 1981, says more than 145,000 government employees have joined AFSCME since 2006.
Uh huh!!Quit drinking the corporate Kool Aid Joe!!They do not pay shit half the time.Corporations don't cost taxpayers money, unless you're talking about subsidies and bailouts...like GM (more union shenanigans -- big surprise!). In both cases, you won't get any argument from me.
Corporate taxes should be zero since all corporate expenses are eventually paid by the final consumer. If the corporate tax is 20%, you'll end up paying an $200 extra on a $1000 TV, which means more money out of your pocket. So it's in your financial interest to keep corporate taxes as low as possible, ideally 0%.
The GOP is really struggling raising cash right?How about if a person does not want to pay union dues then they do not get a job where they do??Sounds simple enough right??Why should someone come in and enjoy the benefits that the union got them and not have to pay dues for it?Scabs like that are despicable.Give the wages and benefits that the union got but don't make me pay dues for it.Go work non union for half the pay then like all the ones complaining are doing.So, if all unions are busted there will be no more union dues. No more union dues means struggling taxpayers will no longer be involuntarily forced to fund the Democrat Party. This will dry up their main source of funding, thus allowing Republicans to compete on a level playing field while Democrats will be forced to earn votes the old fashioned way.
I like it! :+excited-
How can it be that you pay more to the IRS than General Electric?
The GOP is really struggling raising cash right?
How about if a person does not want to pay union dues then they do not get a job where they do??Sounds simple enough right??Why should someone come in and enjoy the benefits that the union got them and not have to pay dues for it?Scabs like that are despicable.Give the wages and benefits that the union got but don't make me pay dues for it.Go work non union for half the pay then like all the ones complaining are doing.
mIrrelevant. Taxpayers shouldn't be forced to fund either party.
Then become a core member and your dues do not go to a political party.Did you ever stop to think that maybe they want their money to go to that party??If not then it is real simple...become a core member.
"That the union got", huh? Using what tactics? Collective bullying? Refusing to work? Roadblocks? Putting a brick or two through a window? So honorable. Yeah, I could see why you goons would be pissed off and harassing the guy who "didn't pay his dues." 2938u4ji23
It is called negotiating.Your union dues go for this .That is what it is all about.Don't be a coward and let someone else fight your battles for you and expect the union to give your scab ass all the hard fought benefits for nothing.
I frankly could care less if non-union and union workers work side by side. Just leave the rest of us (the government) out of it. Abolish every union-friendly law on the books, bust public unions and force unions to collect their own dues. We'll see how many suckers decide to join the mob then.
More corporate cock sucking from the whore.
tank, picture this...
You're a private business owner. I'm a consumer. I walk into your store because you may carry a product I stand to benefit from. You greet me, and I inform you what I'm looking for. You point to a product on your shelf which appears to fit my needs. We agree on a price, I pay the asking price for said product and walk out happy. Every step of the transaction is voluntary, without any interference or force from third parties. That's capitalism.
Now...this your socialist goon world, tank:
You're a private business owner. I'm a consumer. I walk into your store because you may carry a product I stand to benefit from. You greet me, and I inform you of what I'm looking for. You point to a product on your shelf which appears to fit my needs. There's just one problem. In my opinion, it cost too much...the price isn't "fair". But rather than walk out of your store empty handed and take my business elsewhere, I decide I'm going to force you to give it to me anyway, using intimidation, threats etc. So I leave and come back a few hours later with my goon squad. Day after day we march with protest signs in front of your store, screaming while blocking the entrances so other customers can't enter...and so on. Eventually, our "community organizing" goon squad becomes so powerful that we start buying off politicians and changing laws in our favor...all under the guise of some deluded set of "rights". So now as a store owner, you can't even call the police and clear us away from your property. You're pretty much -- what's the word? -- F-U-C-K-E-D.
Anyone who can dream up this stupid shit is beyond fucked.Where in the hell did you come up with this stupid shit at anyway??
Let me tell you something, goon...not only is your system immoral and reprehensible, it is also unsustainable. It will at some point collapse, just like every immoral system throughout history.
But it will be all right to continue to give corporations subsidies and tax breaks and that is all right?Better yet let's just let a dictator decide what is best for everyone huh?What a Fascist piece of shit you are!!
See, nobody is forcing you to purchase a certain product. Just as nobody is forcing you to work for a business with unsafe work conditions or crappy pay and benefits. You can walk away and work for someone much better. Why, you could even open your own business and treat your workers with respect and dignity. And those workers will then work harder, faster, more efficiently and produce superior products, which will eventually force We Treat Our Workers Like Shit Inc. out of business.
Yes of course!!Let corporate America decide what is best for you!!And with unemployment at 10% you have so many choices for employment to right?Get in the real world or quit spreading your Fascist idiot ramblings that do not even qualify for la la land.What a waste of space reading this stupid shit.Get this Fascist shit off the internet.
You can play by the rules and win at the same time.
The problem with your system is that it is rooted in force (intimidation) etc. You are forcing people (in this case, taxpayers) to do things they don't want to do. This leads to conflict and eventually, either your side will lose or the system will collapse onto itself, just as we are witnessing.
Yes of course again.The teachers are forced to be in the union and they had no idea about this when they started right?Walker is a perfect Fascist pig trying to tell everyone what is best for them while giving 137 million dollars in tax breaks for the corporations and wanting the teachers to pay for it.What a piece of shit this Fascist corporate whore is!!
It's that simple.
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Quit blaming the teachers and using class warfare to cover up the bankers and Wall Street's blowing the money in the pension funds also.I'm tired of you Fascist corporate whores using lies and distortion to deflect the blame for your Wall Street and corporate pigs mishandling of the pension funds.That fraud should get someone jail time but you pigs cry ''the taxpayers are against it''!!If that was true then the polls would be in favor of you Fascist pigs but they are not so why is that??Because they know you Fascist corporate pigs are the reason this country is broke.Greed and shame is all you Fascist whores stand for and I am so proud of the people of Wisconsin who have stood up to this Fascist piece of shit that is nothing but a corporate whore selling everyone out to please his masters.Burn in Hell scumbag!!
Before this morning's hearing started, Senate President Tom Niehaus made certain Republicans would have the votes to move the bill by booting Seitz off of the Insurance, Commerce and Labor Committee. Both Hughes and Seitz were known to oppose the bill. Niehaus replaced Seitz with Sen. Cliff Hite, a Findlay Republican, who voted for the bill. :btj:
This just proves how little you know about this!!Still want to give Wall Street and the corporations a free pass huh.Every county has a school district that decides how much money teachers can make with the money they have.When the states start giving tax breaks to corporations then the money suddenly disappears.Funny how the Tea baggers do not say shit about that.I guess when you are led by Fascist pigs you are not smart enough to figure it out.It's not the government's job to "handle your pension". That's your job, welfare queen. YOU are the one responsible for your own retirement, not some politician selling snake oil to a clueless electorate. The fact some idiot progressive mismanaged the funds only validates my side and discredits yours.
Every state in the country is going broke because of you miscreants insisting on "rights" that don't exist, and you want to blame it on the "mishandling" of a hedge fund on Wall Street?
Priceless.
This just proves how little you know about this!!Still want to give Wall Street and the corporations a free pass huh.Every county has a school district that decides how much money teachers can make with the money they have.When the states start giving tax breaks to corporations then the money suddenly disappears.Funny how the Tea baggers do not say shit about that.I guess when you are led by Fascist pigs you are not smart enough to figure it out.
An investigation continues into a bomb threat made this week at an aviation business in Eau Claire, just hours after Governor Scott Walker held a news conference there.
Authorities said a 43-year-old Eau Claire man allegedly called in a threat to Heartland Aviation on Wednesday evening. The facility is next to the Chippewa Valley Regional Airport in Eau Claire. The man is free on a signature bond.
No charges have been filed yet, but the man is due back in Chippewa County Circuit Court on April 19th.
Investigators said the man took part in public demonstrations at the airport on Monday and Wednesday. His home was searched yesterday, and police are checking phone records and interviewing people. Eau Claire Police have asked for tips with more information.
Yes we know Joe you want the government to redistribute the wealth to the Corporations and claim they are the biggest contributors to the tax pie while I have proven they are not and do not even pay taxes half of the time.This same system has been in place for a lot of years so why is it a problem now?The teachers have always payed at least 3% to their pension fund but what has happened to that money??I have already explained it once but you seemed to have missed that?It is funny you have not spouted your usual uneducated fallacy with the teachers so continue to use the ''privileged'' class crap and now we have some ''goons'' and bullies sprinkled in there to keep the Fascist message going.I think it is great that the American people are standing up to the Fascist piece of shit and will keep fighting until he is gone.The cowards that side with him can take their Fascist crap and die for all I am concerned.No, it shows how much progressive crack you're on.
Unlike the private sector, government does not create wealth, it only redistributes wealth. This means the government's budget is always a fixed pie -- it's resources are always limited. Government is always zero-sum...winners and losers.
So, if your union goons win an election and their candidate decides to fatten up PEU pensions, he or she must take from other parts of the pie at somebody else's expense (taxpayers, cut other services etc.). If taxpayers win, and their candidate decides to give tax breaks to businesses in order to stimulate the economy, he or she must do the same. Even worse, because almost every decision the government makes is politically motivated, rather than sensible long term rational planning, the people almost always end up with the worst possible outcome.
This is why the country is so divided and chaotic, people are constantly at each other's throats trying to grab "their share", and why virtually every level of government is bankrupt, both morally and economically.
The simple fact is, the government is providing services it was never designed for. This is why "public education" is in the toilet, even though the United States spends more money on education than any other country in the world.
What you are witnessing is the beginning of the end of the progressive train wreck -- and you ain't see nothin' yet.
Unfortunately, the country will sink further and further until illiterate, obnoxious, potty-mouthed sheep like tank decide to educate themselves, instead of always fighting the ghosts and goblins his progressive union goons instruct him to. 2938u4ji23
If they are fighting off Fascism with the corporate scum then it is going to take more then that to get rid of these Fascist pigs.These pukes will not stop until everyone is poor!!How long before progressives formally align themselves with al-Qaida united in the same common cause?
If they are fighting off Fascism with the corporate scum then it is going to take more then that to get rid of these Fascist pigs.These pukes will not stop until everyone is poor!!