I believe that is why all of this is coming out, the money or power people want to make sure they have someone who will be at that exclusive service, and not influenced by some let's change the status quo pastor. This relationship has been known for years. So why is it an issue now?
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Why now??? You cant be serious, LOL. Its an issue NOW because he is running for President of the United States Now, nobody cared before.
Normally these snakes come out of the woodpile long before this. It is one of two reasons, the Demos are ripping each other to shreds in order to win the nomination, but destroying their own chances of getting elected at the same time. Or, the powerbrokers want to let it be known, this guy won't play along and McCain will not only play along, he will be better than Gdub as far as wars, Iraq, oil and other corporate interests. You tell me.
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These are not Obamas beliefs but his pastors, why arent you going after the pastor. quote]
I like that one - how does someone listen to this nut speak and then show up again the following week? - then call him his spiritual adivisor? - then have him marry you? - then have him baptize your kids? all spanning a 20 year relationship where he calls America the land of the white devils and says the US deserved to get attacked on 9/11 - who the fvck is really running for President?
It doesn't feel like the Clinton campaign is behind this or,it would've surfaced before now,the Rev. Wright remarks have been known about for years.Barack's been running for president for months and this hasn't been an issue.
Limbaugh was floating the idea that if the Democrat delegates are split,and Mrs. Clinton somehow hijacks the nomination, it would be a disincentive for African Americans to go to the polls in November,that would make a McCain victory very likely.
The Obama's pastor mainstream media shit-storm also sends him a message about whose really in charge, should he get the notion that he'll be able to effect real "change" instead of just rhetorical "change"."They" made him and "they"can pull the plug on him too,nowadays it doesn't take a bullet to remove a presidents ability to function,it's more of a virtual assaination.
The Spitzer scandal ties into the theme too,cooperate with the program don't make waves,and nothing bad will happen,assert independence and an event will be crafted to destroy your reputation.
We are conned into believing that voting for pre-chosen candidates will make a difference in the direction America takes,it doesn't the election is a charade designed to obscure the real agents of control behind the scenes.
Sadly I agree with most everything that pastor says. We did bring 9/11 on ourselves, we created and financed Bin Laden. Our oil corps paid the Kingdom who in turn paid Bin Laden not to bomb the Kingdom. They try to paint this pastor out to be some anti American fanatic, but more and more people are beginning to feel this way. We created Saddam to mess with Iran. And there were no WMOD's. The corporations are making out like bandits over there, especially Cheney's buddies. Were Hiroshima and Nagasaki terrorist acts? That is a stretch, but they were wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians, non military targets, and Japan was done at that point, had zero shipping left as our subs sank their entire merchant marine Navy. They were done. It was about racing the ruskies to get Japan so they would not glom onto it like Eastern Europe. I can't believe anything our government's approved press says any longer. Anybody who helped them, even during WWII got the shaft, including our greatest heros. Lindbergh, Joe Louis, even Lucky Luciano. What a disgrace. Plus his views on the police state, war on drugs and three strikes law are exactly the same as mine. If Obama said those things I would vote for him.
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Where were you Bush lickers when Ted Haggart, Bush's Pastor, got caught suking dick? Also a meth head. Couldn't find any of you around. Didn't the druge report have anything about this? I know they shelter you nitwits from the real news but other outlets carried it. You need to turn off nitwit neocon radio for a day and see what else is out there. Maybe put down the Murdoch's NY POst and turn off Fox news for a day and you might learn something about politics. Sheep watch FOX on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
yet the Bush lickers who have given us this terrific 9 trillion debt and stuck us in a shithole with no way out now want to give us advice on who to vote for. There is a reason the Brits wrote this a few years ago. plasticbag.org: How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?
Obama 'seems' like a good man. But it appears he?s being dishonest here. He?s known this man a long time. And he?s saying he?s never heard or knew of his longtime friend making any such comments or holding any such beliefs. Nor did anyone ever tell him this man was hating in some of his sermons. I don?t buy it.
The Pastor apparently sees America as the great Satan, appears one or two around here do also. However we got to this point it is what it is now. Choose your side. I?ll remain with the home team. And now Obama has to say all the right things. Denounce it all.
Did you read my post and quote it for a reason? Do I seem like a Bush licker to you? I don't like any of them, especially Gdub. If you are going to quote me please at least make your post pertinent to mine. Goodness.
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Thor 4140 ? Curious about your age,profession,marital status , kids???
You are joking right?:+clueless
Mccains not a bad choice he was a war hero, a leader, and since he has installed his plan in IRAQ its been working.NOPE...THIS MAY BE THE FIRST TIME SINCE I TURNED 18 THAT I WILL NOT VOTE....I CAN'T SEE BACKING ANY OF THESE SO CALLED CANDIDATES..:doh1
If you knew what you were talking about... Bill Clinton is to blame for 911.. He could have killed Bin Laden and pussed out.Sadly I agree with most everything that pastor says. We did bring 9/11 on ourselves, we created and financed Bin Laden. Our oil corps paid the Kingdom who in turn paid Bin Laden not to bomb the Kingdom. They try to paint this pastor out to be some anti American fanatic, but more and more people are beginning to feel this way. We created Saddam to mess with Iran. And there were no WMOD's. The corporations are making out like bandits over there, especially Cheney's buddies. Were Hiroshima and Nagasaki terrorist acts? That is a stretch, but they were wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians, non military targets, and Japan was done at that point, had zero shipping left as our subs sank their entire merchant marine Navy. They were done. It was about racing the ruskies to get Japan so they would not glom onto it like Eastern Europe. I can't believe anything our government's approved press says any longer. Anybody who helped them, even during WWII got the shaft, including our greatest heros. Lindbergh, Joe Louis, even Lucky Luciano. What a disgrace. Plus his views on the police state, war on drugs and three strikes law are exactly the same as mine. If Obama said those things I would vote for him.
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When i see stupid shit like this it makes me realize why Bush was elected twice.With the way the economy is right now... How could anyone wanna vote for Obama or Hilary??????????? They both want to raise taxes, and put us in worse shape.... And I'm and Independent.. I often lean more to the right especially the last 5 years or so with those extreme left wing nuts... But Im sorry if they raise taxes things are only gonna get much much worse for this economy.
I will help you out. MY philosophy is the same as it was when i was 18. I was blessed to be able to spot a con job when it is right in front of me unlike others. I really don't think it is a gift i just think people are just naive and gullible. My post in here are not pro Obama. They are more of a wake up call to people who get conned over and over again. Its why the right breaks out the gay marriage and flag burning bullshit over and over again. They know most americans are idiots so why not use something that works. Again and again and again.No just want to see your position in life so that I may be able to understand your political philosophy. Am curious to see how it impacts your reasoning. Me i am 55 married with 4 kids(who are grown) and we own and operate 3 family restaurants that employ 100 people In addition I have a sports business that I have operated for 30 years. I think the above data will enable you to see my perspective!!
If you knew what you were talking about... Bill Clinton is to blame for 911.. He could have killed Bin Laden and pussed out.
With the way the economy is right now... How could anyone wanna vote for Obama or Hilary??????????? They both want to raise taxes, and put us in worse shape.... And I'm and Independent.. I often lean more to the right especially the last 5 years or so with those extreme left wing nuts... But Im sorry if they raise taxes things are only gonna get much much worse for this economy.
It his strange how a voter who supports a particular candidate has a blind spot when it comes to HIS candidate.
When the opposite party says something controversial, ignorant, or just plain stupid, the wringing of hands, the gnashing of teeth, and the demands to start firing people begin.
However, when MY party says somes something controversial, ignorant, or just plain stupid, MY candidate is exercising his first amendment rights, or he has "distanced" himself from the remarks, or he was quoted out of context.
We just flat tend to support OUR guy no matter what the message.
Example: If Bush starts talking about "Faith" or "God " or anything pertaining to his religion, or if Huckabee mentions that he was a Baptist minister for ten years, there is an immediate reflexive bias among their opponents that these men are backward, provincial hicks who have no right to include their religion in politics.
But, if Obama speaks of his "Faith," well then, he is a highly-prinicipled candidate grounded in traditional American values. After all, he "transcends" race, political partisanship, war, and anything else that defines reality.
From a story on Drudge this morning:
Barack Obama has put his religion back into the headlines, trumpeting the power and salvation of faith and asking a church audience in South Carolina to help him become “an instrument of God” and join him in creating “a Kingdom right here on Earth."
Gosh, what an inspiring, great leader.
This is all such a game.
I believe that is why all of this is coming out, the money or power people want to make sure they have someone who will be at that exclusive service, and not influenced by some let's change the status quo pastor. This relationship has been known for years. So why is it an issue now? Because the media says so. And who tells the media? If Obama says, hey it's all rhetoric to get me elected, to the right people, this kind of stuff will vanish. He just has to soothe the powerbrokers. Let's say this is a wake up call to play along.
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Mccains not a bad choice he was a war hero, a leader, and since he has installed his plan in IRAQ its been working.
But not voting is just another way to play along. You are still a sheep, just in a different pasture, one that does not vote for the shepherd. Not sure that is the real answer either, as pretty soon the Judas goat will come for us sheep in the back field that did not vote. And I seriously doubt the gaot will be there to lead us to the promised land.
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However you have an astute eye as to how the events are controlled and how the sheep are spoonfed.
This is an issue because Faux News, Rush, Hannity and the Drudge Report say it is. We've seen this play run dozens of time before, and yet it still seems to gain yardage. Guess what's coming next sheeple: 1) there will be a tempest in a teapot regarding proposed anti or pro gay legislation somewhere; 2) there will be knashing of teeth regarding the "removal of God from our way of life"; 3) there will be stories about how the "Godless Democrats" want to take away every law-abiding citizen's guns; and 4)--get ready for the clincher--only a "war hero" can guide us safely through the Iranian War that will open at a theater near you this summer. . . .