Top NFL Receivers, According To GMs...
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Is Godwin really top 10? Big numbers last year but we have to find out if he's a one-hit wonder. He needs at least another year as good as 2019 before he's in the top 10. And how much does he benefit from Evans drawing double coverage?
Based on production, Theilen should be in top 10. But figures a guy like that, viewed as an "over-achiever" would be dismissed by GMs.
Based on production, Theilen should be in top 10. But figures a guy like that, viewed as an "over-achiever" would be dismissed by GMs.
Heim
EOG Master
Compound champ??
kane
EOG master
This should apply to all positions, I don't care how an athlete looks in his underwear at the combines, give me the guy who did it consistently in college, the guy who showed up on tape every play
kane
EOG master
The guy who was inconsistent in college, but runs like a deer, jumps to the moon, and can bench press a truck, that's a compound champ. Give me the guy who showed up every down, in every game, and always played hard, over the guy who shows flashes, but doesn't always show up
C'mon Heim. You've seen them. They can bench 400, run a 4.3 40 and broad jump over high rises all with 5% bodyfat. But they can't run good routes. ...or can't catch a cold.
Heim
EOG Master
He may turn out to be legit. His rookie numbers were solid. Treadwell of the Vikings comes to mind. David Terrell with the Bears. There's a bunch more.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
List is overall pretty solid. Top 3 are locked in, but I might have Julio 3rd due to age. What's amazing in the list is some executive(s) listed Julio as low as 7th, and Thomas and Hopkins as low as 6th. In a similar QB list, some Idiot rates Mahomes 4th. Guys like that don't warrant jobs in the NFL. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/st...vers-2020-execs-players-coaches-debate-top-10
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
Tyreek was a College RB.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Not in my book. I would rank them Hopkins 1st, Hill 2nd, Thomas 3rd.
I don't think Godwin is a top-10 WR with Brady.
Here's Caesars receiving yards over/unders for the upcoming season:
1. Thomas 1449.5
2. J Jones 1333.5
3. Adams 1299.5
4. Evans 1099.5
Golladay 1099.5
Smith-Schuster 1099.5
7. A. Robinson 1073.5
8. DJ Chark 1069.5
9. Kupp 1049.5
10. Sutton 999.5
McLaurin 999.5
K Allen 999.5
Both Hopkins, Beckham, TY Hilton and Hill were not given yardage over/unders but have TD over/unders.
1. Thomas 1449.5
2. J Jones 1333.5
3. Adams 1299.5
4. Evans 1099.5
Golladay 1099.5
Smith-Schuster 1099.5
7. A. Robinson 1073.5
8. DJ Chark 1069.5
9. Kupp 1049.5
10. Sutton 999.5
McLaurin 999.5
K Allen 999.5
Both Hopkins, Beckham, TY Hilton and Hill were not given yardage over/unders but have TD over/unders.
Here's 2019 yards per target leaders, minimum 50 or more receptions, Probably the best stat to measure WR efficiency:
1. AJ Brown 12.5
2. Diggs 12.0
3. M Williams (LAC) 11.1
4. Godwin 10.8
5. Golladay 10.3
6. A Cooper 10.0
R Cobb 10.0
8. McLaurin 9.9
9. D Samuel 9.8
M Evans 9.8
And 2018:
1. Lockett 13.8
2. M Evans 11.0
3. T Hill 10.8
4. Hilton 10.6
5. Cooks 10.3
Kupp 10.3
7. J. Jones 9.9
8. M Thomas 9.6
Hopkins 9.6
DJ Moore 9.6
1. AJ Brown 12.5
2. Diggs 12.0
3. M Williams (LAC) 11.1
4. Godwin 10.8
5. Golladay 10.3
6. A Cooper 10.0
R Cobb 10.0
8. McLaurin 9.9
9. D Samuel 9.8
M Evans 9.8
And 2018:
1. Lockett 13.8
2. M Evans 11.0
3. T Hill 10.8
4. Hilton 10.6
5. Cooks 10.3
Kupp 10.3
7. J. Jones 9.9
8. M Thomas 9.6
Hopkins 9.6
DJ Moore 9.6
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
I'm not big on these overs, but really expect a big year from Smith-Schuster.
WildBill
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I think that's a good concept. Frankly drafting guys high is probably not worth it. Maybe if you can get a crazy value like some of the receivers this year in the loaded class, but I think WR and RB are positions you can get such good value later in the draft for and you can take productive guys in college. They are so dependent upon other players on the team its hard to think they are so talented they can move the needle themselves.
If Ben has anything left, he's a big upgrade over last year. Like that play as well.
Patrick McIrish
OCCams raZOR
And some very good tight ends.
Gronk of course but Howard/Brate are probably underrated around the league as a pass catching tight end duo.
I think Howard (if he doesn't get traded) is going to benefit from Brady being in town, even with Gronk around......
And I think Godwin will come back down to earth. No way he matches what he did last year IMO.
jimmythegreek
The opening odds start here
I'd have Golladay on that list as well and also give Stefon Diggs an honorable mention.
Sportsrmylife
EOG Master
Initial look
Adams under 1299.5 The gameplan is going to be to run, run, run. This will help the play-action situations but I'll play under given the drop in production that is expected from Aaron Rodgers with the change in gameplan.
Evans under 1099.5 Evans is a deep threat and not a great route runner. That isn't a good mix with Brady at QB. Godwin is going to get massive targets with quick routes. Add in Gronk, who isn't on the team for the post game parties, will also vulture some redzone targets from Evans.
Golladay over 1099.5 I am very very high on this dude. Big talent who is primed for a big season. He is going to be Stafford's #1 target and Matt isn't scared to give this big WR some deep shots each game. Throw in the garbage yards late in the 4Q which could be an easy 25 yards that's an easy 400 yards for the season.
A Robinson over 1073.5 Big big shot here. Foles will be the QB and pump targets into this guy. Very underrated. He will be a 1300+ yard WR this season.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
I lean over with A Robinson also.
Sportsrmylife
EOG Master
Sportsrmylife
EOG Master
This doesn't mean that I am saying that Evans comes to work every week.
Evans upside is what I like more.
Two giant years. 2017-2018 over 200 catches and 2600 yards.
IMO, there's a big difference between one big year and two. Some guys are under the radar and defenses are caught unprepared. You catch 100 passes for 1300 yards once and defenses will take note. It becomes much harder to repeat it, unless one is Thomas, Hopkins or Julio.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
We’ll know more about Thielen and Diggs this year now that they are on different teams.
They are both good. But going from a dome to the frigid winds of Buffalo with Josh Allen, its not going to be easy for Diggs to put up big numbers.
interesting. So the rating at these places the NFL teams have are worthless ? What about the competition the receiver went up against ? just asking here ... i don't know anything about drafts
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
And both benefitted from the other being on the field.
Heim
EOG Master
Jerry Rice would be a perfect example of a non-compound guy. I'm not even sure there was a combine back then
but I do remember he never broke 4.6 in private workouts. But what prolific numbers he put up at Mississippi Valley St.
(He was lucky he had a big arm black Qb.) But son of a gun if a DB was within 5 yards of him every time he caught the ball
on ESPN highlights.
but I do remember he never broke 4.6 in private workouts. But what prolific numbers he put up at Mississippi Valley St.
(He was lucky he had a big arm black Qb.) But son of a gun if a DB was within 5 yards of him every time he caught the ball
on ESPN highlights.
Yes the competition does matter. Number one factor is, is the guy a football player? There's a lot of compound stars who are great in the weight room, or were blessed with very good genes, but maybe don't have the dedication, or football sense, to be a great football player.
Maybe one exception would be, a guy at a position playing on a team where the coach's philosophy was strongly against that position. They won't have the giant numbers because of lack of opportunities. Favre in high school.....his dad was the coach. They didn't throw much. Maybe a WR on a team that runs 80% of the time.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Godwin has one huge advantage- Evans draws the top coverage. His numbers would suffer more by a better running game and fewer TO’s. Brady will take care of the latter.
Patrick McIrish
OCCams raZOR
justintalk
EOG Veteran
Rice was the GOAT.
TheGuesser
EOG Dedicated
2019 WR draft order. Metcalf the NINTH WR taken. Imagine if KC had taken him instead of Hardman. Would be the best Offense ever to have Mahomes go along with Kelce and Tyreek. Right now Metcalf, Tyreek, and Kelce are 1-2-3 in Receiving yardage.
Baltimore Ravens Marquise Brown WROklahoma
New England Patriots N'Keal Harry WRArizona State
San Francisco 49ers Deebo Samuel WRSouth Carolina
Tennessee Titans A. J. Brown WROle Miss
Kansas City Chiefs Mecole Hardman †WRGeorgia
Philadelphia Eagles J. J. Arcega-Whiteside WRStanford
Indianapolis Colts Parris Campbell WROhio State
Arizona Cardinals Andy Isabella WRUMassInd.
Seattle Seahawks DK Metcalf WROle Miss
Baltimore Ravens Marquise Brown WROklahoma
New England Patriots N'Keal Harry WRArizona State
San Francisco 49ers Deebo Samuel WRSouth Carolina
Tennessee Titans A. J. Brown WROle Miss
Kansas City Chiefs Mecole Hardman †WRGeorgia
Philadelphia Eagles J. J. Arcega-Whiteside WRStanford
Indianapolis Colts Parris Campbell WROhio State
Arizona Cardinals Andy Isabella WRUMassInd.
Seattle Seahawks DK Metcalf WROle Miss