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Look for the union label -- then shop elsewhere! 12io4j2w90
Look for the union label -- then shop elsewhere! 12io4j2w90
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Welcome, Union Brothers and Sisters
by Sarah Palin on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 2:50am
In my speech on Saturday in Iowa, I said: ?Between bailouts for Wall Street cronies and stimulus projects for union bosses? security and ?green energy? giveaways, [Barack Obama] took care of his friends. And now they?re on course to raise a billion dollars for his re-election bid so that they can do it all over again.? This was shamefully on display yesterday at President Obama?s taxpayer-funded campaign rally in Detroit. In introducing the President, Teamsters President James Hoffa represented precisely what I was talking about as he declared war on concerned independent Americans and on the freshman members we sent to Congress last November by saying, ?Let?s take these son-of-a-bitches out!?
What I say now, I say as a proud former union member and the wife, daughter, and sister of union members. So, as a former card-carrying IBEW sister married to a proud former Laborers, IBEW, and later USW member, please hear me out. What I have to say is for the hard working, patriotic, selfless union brothers and sisters in Michigan and throughout our country: Please don?t be taken in by union bosses? thuggery like Jim Hoffa represented yesterday. Union bosses like this do not have your best interests at heart. What they care about is their own power and re-electing their friend Barack Obama so he will take care of them to the detriment of everyone else.
To the same degree Americans are concerned about irresponsible, greedy corporate execs who got cushy bonuses from taxpayer-funded bailouts, we should also be concerned about greedy union bosses who are willing to tank our economy just to protect their own power. As union history shows, power and greed corrupt. Just because you claim to represent union members doesn?t mean you are on the side of the angels. The greed of too many of these union bosses has all but destroyed the labor movement in this country, helped chase away our jobs, and is killing the American dream.
To see where this leads, look at what?s happening to the working class in our industrialized cities. These cities are going to hell in a hand basket thanks to corruption, crony capitalism, and the union bosses? greed. The union bosses derive their power from your union dues and their promise to deliver your votes to whichever politician they?re in bed with. They get their power from you, and yet their actions ultimately hurt you. They?re chasing American industry offshore by making outrageous, economically illogical demands that they know will never work. And now that they?ve chased jobs out of union states, they?re trying to chase them out of right-to-work states like South Carolina, so eventually the jobs will leave America altogether. But these union bosses will still figure out a way to keep their gig, and so will their politically aligned corporate friends. As long as these big corporations have a good crony capitalist in the White House, they can rely on DC to bail them out until the whole system goes bankrupt, which, I am afraid, is not very far off. When big government, big business, and big union bosses collude together, they get government to maximize their own interests against those of the rest of the country.
So, now these union bosses are desperately trying to cast the grassroots Tea Party Movement as being ?against the workingman.? How outrageously wrong this unapologetic Jim Hoffa is, for the people?s movement is the real movement for working class men and women. It?s rooted in real solidarity, and not special interests and corporate kickbacks. It represents the needed reform that will empower workers and job creators. We stand with the little guy against the corruption and influence peddling of those who collude to grease the wheels of government power.
This collusion is at the heart of Obama?s economic vision for America. In practice it is socialism for the very rich and the very poor, but a brutal form of capitalism for the rest of us. It is socialism for the very poor who are reduced to a degrading perpetual dependence on a near-bankrupt centralized government to provide their every need, while at the same time robbing them of that which brings fulfillment and success ? the life-affirming pride that comes from taking responsibility for your own destiny and building a better life through self-initiative and work ethic. And Obama?s vision is socialism via crony capitalism for the very rich who continue to get bailouts, debt-ridden ?stimulus? funds, and special favors that allow them to waive off or help draft the burdensome regulations that act as a boot on the neck to small business owners who don?t have the same friends in high places. And where does this collusion leave working class Americans and the small business owners who create 70% of the jobs in this country? Out in the cold. It?s you and your children who are left paying for the cronyism of Obama and our permanent political class in DC.
Ask yourself if the folks you heard demonize concerned, independent Americans yesterday really speak for the working class when they?re all too happy to burden your families with the bill to bail out the President?s friends on Wall Street.
We should not forget that for all his lofty rhetoric, President Obama is a Chicago politician. Graft, cronyism, and quid pro quo are the well-known methods of an infamous Chicago political machine, of which Barack Obama emerged. This corruption isn?t just the result of a few bad apples. It?s the nature of a skewed system that?s typical of one not allowing a level playing field. If one desires opportunity for all, then the only solution is sudden and relentless reform. I know of what I speak. I too served in public office in a state that had a corruption problem. The difference is that I fought the corrupt political machine. Barack Obama used the machine in his state to advance. He never challenged it. And he?s evidently brought the same Chicago ?pay-to-play? practices to the White House.
It?s sad to see much of the labor movement fall lock step behind a President whom Hoffa calls upon to partner in ?waging war? against patriotic Americans. I will never forget that as a governor, in trying to be a friend to the working men and women in our unions, I gave a speech on August 27, 2008, at the annual AFL-CIO meeting in Anchorage. There, union members humbled me with a standing ovation for fighting the corruption in Alaska and for bringing parties together for progress on energy development projects. Then just two days later I landed on the national stage as John McCain?s running mate, and the union leadership turned on me from that day forward even though I had not changed one iota in my plans, principles, vision, and commitment to jobs for working class Americans. The only difference was I was challenging the politician the union bosses were committed to electing. It was almost comical, this lesson learned with their new spots revealed so quickly.
Recently someone commented: ?I?m a union member. I?ve been a Democrat all my life. Now I?ll vote for anyone with a plan to save America.? I know what that person is feeling. I want all good union brothers and sisters to know that there is an alternative. The grassroots, independent Tea Party Movement articulates a real alternative rooted in free men and free markets, not the cronyism of Barack Obama and the permanent political class in DC. Their cronyism is why we have no job growth, massive unsustainable debt, and a housing market in the tank. Too many politicians are simply addressing the economic symptoms instead of fighting the underlying disease. The path forward is through reform. On Saturday, I outlined some ideas about that reform, and I will continue to do so.
In the meantime, good union brothers and sisters, don?t let Hoffa tell you what to do. He doesn?t represent the real interests of working men and women. He?s not doing you any favors. He?s just living off your paychecks.
- Sarah Palin
Welcome, Union Brothers and Sisters
by Sarah Palin on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 2:50am
In my speech on Saturday in Iowa, I said: ?Between bailouts for Wall Street cronies and stimulus projects for union bosses? security and ?green energy? giveaways, [Barack Obama] took care of his friends. And now they?re on course to raise a billion dollars for his re-election bid so that they can do it all over again.? This was shamefully on display yesterday at President Obama?s taxpayer-funded campaign rally in Detroit. In introducing the President, Teamsters President James Hoffa represented precisely what I was talking about as he declared war on concerned independent Americans and on the freshman members we sent to Congress last November by saying, ?Let?s take these son-of-a-bitches out!?
What I say now, I say as a proud former union member and the wife, daughter, and sister of union members. So, as a former card-carrying IBEW sister married to a proud former Laborers, IBEW, and later USW member, please hear me out. What I have to say is for the hard working, patriotic, selfless union brothers and sisters in Michigan and throughout our country: Please don?t be taken in by union bosses? thuggery like Jim Hoffa represented yesterday. Union bosses like this do not have your best interests at heart. What they care about is their own power and re-electing their friend Barack Obama so he will take care of them to the detriment of everyone else.
To the same degree Americans are concerned about irresponsible, greedy corporate execs who got cushy bonuses from taxpayer-funded bailouts, we should also be concerned about greedy union bosses who are willing to tank our economy just to protect their own power. As union history shows, power and greed corrupt. Just because you claim to represent union members doesn?t mean you are on the side of the angels. The greed of too many of these union bosses has all but destroyed the labor movement in this country, helped chase away our jobs, and is killing the American dream.
To see where this leads, look at what?s happening to the working class in our industrialized cities. These cities are going to hell in a hand basket thanks to corruption, crony capitalism, and the union bosses? greed. The union bosses derive their power from your union dues and their promise to deliver your votes to whichever politician they?re in bed with. They get their power from you, and yet their actions ultimately hurt you. They?re chasing American industry offshore by making outrageous, economically illogical demands that they know will never work. And now that they?ve chased jobs out of union states, they?re trying to chase them out of right-to-work states like South Carolina, so eventually the jobs will leave America altogether. But these union bosses will still figure out a way to keep their gig, and so will their politically aligned corporate friends. As long as these big corporations have a good crony capitalist in the White House, they can rely on DC to bail them out until the whole system goes bankrupt, which, I am afraid, is not very far off. When big government, big business, and big union bosses collude together, they get government to maximize their own interests against those of the rest of the country.
So, now these union bosses are desperately trying to cast the grassroots Tea Party Movement as being ?against the workingman.? How outrageously wrong this unapologetic Jim Hoffa is, for the people?s movement is the real movement for working class men and women. It?s rooted in real solidarity, and not special interests and corporate kickbacks. It represents the needed reform that will empower workers and job creators. We stand with the little guy against the corruption and influence peddling of those who collude to grease the wheels of government power.
This collusion is at the heart of Obama?s economic vision for America. In practice it is socialism for the very rich and the very poor, but a brutal form of capitalism for the rest of us. It is socialism for the very poor who are reduced to a degrading perpetual dependence on a near-bankrupt centralized government to provide their every need, while at the same time robbing them of that which brings fulfillment and success ? the life-affirming pride that comes from taking responsibility for your own destiny and building a better life through self-initiative and work ethic. And Obama?s vision is socialism via crony capitalism for the very rich who continue to get bailouts, debt-ridden ?stimulus? funds, and special favors that allow them to waive off or help draft the burdensome regulations that act as a boot on the neck to small business owners who don?t have the same friends in high places. And where does this collusion leave working class Americans and the small business owners who create 70% of the jobs in this country? Out in the cold. It?s you and your children who are left paying for the cronyism of Obama and our permanent political class in DC.
Ask yourself if the folks you heard demonize concerned, independent Americans yesterday really speak for the working class when they?re all too happy to burden your families with the bill to bail out the President?s friends on Wall Street.
We should not forget that for all his lofty rhetoric, President Obama is a Chicago politician. Graft, cronyism, and quid pro quo are the well-known methods of an infamous Chicago political machine, of which Barack Obama emerged. This corruption isn?t just the result of a few bad apples. It?s the nature of a skewed system that?s typical of one not allowing a level playing field. If one desires opportunity for all, then the only solution is sudden and relentless reform. I know of what I speak. I too served in public office in a state that had a corruption problem. The difference is that I fought the corrupt political machine. Barack Obama used the machine in his state to advance. He never challenged it. And he?s evidently brought the same Chicago ?pay-to-play? practices to the White House.
It?s sad to see much of the labor movement fall lock step behind a President whom Hoffa calls upon to partner in ?waging war? against patriotic Americans. I will never forget that as a governor, in trying to be a friend to the working men and women in our unions, I gave a speech on August 27, 2008, at the annual AFL-CIO meeting in Anchorage. There, union members humbled me with a standing ovation for fighting the corruption in Alaska and for bringing parties together for progress on energy development projects. Then just two days later I landed on the national stage as John McCain?s running mate, and the union leadership turned on me from that day forward even though I had not changed one iota in my plans, principles, vision, and commitment to jobs for working class Americans. The only difference was I was challenging the politician the union bosses were committed to electing. It was almost comical, this lesson learned with their new spots revealed so quickly.
Recently someone commented: ?I?m a union member. I?ve been a Democrat all my life. Now I?ll vote for anyone with a plan to save America.? I know what that person is feeling. I want all good union brothers and sisters to know that there is an alternative. The grassroots, independent Tea Party Movement articulates a real alternative rooted in free men and free markets, not the cronyism of Barack Obama and the permanent political class in DC. Their cronyism is why we have no job growth, massive unsustainable debt, and a housing market in the tank. Too many politicians are simply addressing the economic symptoms instead of fighting the underlying disease. The path forward is through reform. On Saturday, I outlined some ideas about that reform, and I will continue to do so.
In the meantime, good union brothers and sisters, don?t let Hoffa tell you what to do. He doesn?t represent the real interests of working men and women. He?s not doing you any favors. He?s just living off your paychecks.
- Sarah Palin
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Watch Joe's envy go into overdrive while his coward ass takes the corporate dick up his ass with a smile on his face!!
Her husband sure did enjoy the benefits of the union though didn't he??:LMAO
Watch Joe's envy go into overdrive while his coward ass takes the corporate dick up his ass with a smile on his face!!
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Unions aren't the only problem, but definitely part of the problem.
Unions aren't the only problem, but definitely part of the problem.
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Yeah that whole 10% of the work force sure does a lot of damage.Funny how it is always the non union people crying about it but will do nothing about the corporations that are screwing everyone over.Yes it is the unions fault for trying to better peoples lives and getting in the way of those poor corporations who have your best interest's in mind and really care about you.
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
CORPORATIONS couldn't care less about your best interests. CORPORATIONS are motivated by one thing: PROFIT. (Oooo...scawy word!)
Unlike PROGRESSIVISM (an irrational, religious feel-good cult centered around the belief that money grows on trees), CORPORATIONS are expert PROFIT makers and therefore very efficient at creating WEALTH.
That's because unlike, say, the GOVERNMENT, CORPORATIONS don't have the power to steal money from your pocket, so they have to persuade you (the buyer/consumer) to voluntarily purchase their products or services. If they sell you a product that doesn't enrich your life, you won't buy from them again. Piss off enough customers, and they'll eventually go out of business, especially now in the age of the internet where word-of-mouth travels fast. So highly successful CORPORATIONS have a VESTED INTEREST in maintaining a good image for their brand they spend loads of money advertising, and keeping you the consumer/buyer happy. (Business 101: "The customer is always right!")
MORE BUSINESS = INCREASED PROFIT.
It has nothing to do with "caring for you", only naive little children and stooopid radical Saul Alinsky pot-smoking hippies believe empathy makes the world go 'round.
On the eve of the Kenyan's laughable "job speech" (why are Republicans even showing up? SHAME ON THEM! 2348ji23e), its worth reviewing how easily a job is created.
Grab a pencil and notepad, here's the formula:
Someone has an idea for a new product or service, then produces it, often at quite a financial risk. They then sell the product or service for more than it costs to produce. This is called PROFIT. Make enough PROFIT, they have to hire someone to help with the increased work DEMAND. This is called creating a JOB. More PROFIT means more work DEMAND, which creates more JOBS. Less PROFIT means less work DEMAND, which kills JOBS.
That is how a job is created -- you stupid, arrogant, divisive, Marxist-Keynesian Kenyan POS! :soapbox:
So simple even Sarah Palin can understand it! :btj:
The problem for the Kenyan and his radical progresssive Brownshirt brigades, is they don't believe in the aforementioned formula for job creation because it don't grease the wheels of their BIG CENTRALIZED GOVERNMENT cult.
Are businesses sitting on money? Are venture capitalists on strike "waiting it out"? Is there enough capital dormant in banks, tied up in gold and hidden offshore ready to ignite the next industrial revolution?
Damn right!
But why would anyone who knows how to make money and create jobs risk capital when the idiot in the White house is doing everything in his power to politicize the economy by confiscating and redistributing other people's money to his political cronies, as well as throw up as many roadblocks and red tape (taxes and regulations) as possible to the creation of wealth?
Mark my words, if a true conservative wins the White House in 2012 and declares "This country is open for business!", the floodgates will open. The economy won't turn around instantly, but it will be roaring by 2016, which should get him/her reelected in a landslide, a la Reagan.
And yes, envious loudmouth Obama Brownshirt jerk-offs making threats toward the Tea Party -- the modern Sons of Liberty -- should be worried...because, well, WE THE PEOPLE have ALL the guns.
You want a war, BRING IT ON THUG BOY!!
WE THE PEOPLE beat the Nazis once. We'll do it again!
CORPORATIONS couldn't care less about your best interests. CORPORATIONS are motivated by one thing: PROFIT. (Oooo...scawy word!)
Unlike PROGRESSIVISM (an irrational, religious feel-good cult centered around the belief that money grows on trees), CORPORATIONS are expert PROFIT makers and therefore very efficient at creating WEALTH.
That's because unlike, say, the GOVERNMENT, CORPORATIONS don't have the power to steal money from your pocket, so they have to persuade you (the buyer/consumer) to voluntarily purchase their products or services. If they sell you a product that doesn't enrich your life, you won't buy from them again. Piss off enough customers, and they'll eventually go out of business, especially now in the age of the internet where word-of-mouth travels fast. So highly successful CORPORATIONS have a VESTED INTEREST in maintaining a good image for their brand they spend loads of money advertising, and keeping you the consumer/buyer happy. (Business 101: "The customer is always right!")
MORE BUSINESS = INCREASED PROFIT.
It has nothing to do with "caring for you", only naive little children and stooopid radical Saul Alinsky pot-smoking hippies believe empathy makes the world go 'round.
On the eve of the Kenyan's laughable "job speech" (why are Republicans even showing up? SHAME ON THEM! 2348ji23e), its worth reviewing how easily a job is created.
Grab a pencil and notepad, here's the formula:
Someone has an idea for a new product or service, then produces it, often at quite a financial risk. They then sell the product or service for more than it costs to produce. This is called PROFIT. Make enough PROFIT, they have to hire someone to help with the increased work DEMAND. This is called creating a JOB. More PROFIT means more work DEMAND, which creates more JOBS. Less PROFIT means less work DEMAND, which kills JOBS.
That is how a job is created -- you stupid, arrogant, divisive, Marxist-Keynesian Kenyan POS! :soapbox:
So simple even Sarah Palin can understand it! :btj:
The problem for the Kenyan and his radical progresssive Brownshirt brigades, is they don't believe in the aforementioned formula for job creation because it don't grease the wheels of their BIG CENTRALIZED GOVERNMENT cult.
Are businesses sitting on money? Are venture capitalists on strike "waiting it out"? Is there enough capital dormant in banks, tied up in gold and hidden offshore ready to ignite the next industrial revolution?
Damn right!
But why would anyone who knows how to make money and create jobs risk capital when the idiot in the White house is doing everything in his power to politicize the economy by confiscating and redistributing other people's money to his political cronies, as well as throw up as many roadblocks and red tape (taxes and regulations) as possible to the creation of wealth?
Mark my words, if a true conservative wins the White House in 2012 and declares "This country is open for business!", the floodgates will open. The economy won't turn around instantly, but it will be roaring by 2016, which should get him/her reelected in a landslide, a la Reagan.
And yes, envious loudmouth Obama Brownshirt jerk-offs making threats toward the Tea Party -- the modern Sons of Liberty -- should be worried...because, well, WE THE PEOPLE have ALL the guns.
You want a war, BRING IT ON THUG BOY!!
WE THE PEOPLE beat the Nazis once. We'll do it again!
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
You are dumber then I thought if you think all these companies are losing money and use that as an excuse for moving to China for slave labor.You are a sick Fascist puke that encourages slave labor and cheer's on the corporations that exploit;s other human beings for profit!!I am convinced there is a special place in HELL for corporate cock suckers like you that exploit people for PROFIT.
Now like a good Fascist complain that the middle class is shrinking and you just have no idea why, while your coward ass that makes every excuse in the book for the greedy corporations screws over millions more people.
Oh and the simple answer to your Fascist rant about corporations sitting on cash....duh no shit because their is no demand since they have destroyed the middle class.Duh, duh,duh.Now stick your head back up the corporate ass and keep wondering about what happened to the middle class .
Just to get you off your corporate cock sucking binge for a few minutes how about you stop and think about who makes them their profits??Who are the ones who came up with the idea's on how to improve the process and make them more money??Do you think it was some CEO that more then likely never set foot on a shop floor before??
You are dumber then I thought if you think all these companies are losing money and use that as an excuse for moving to China for slave labor.You are a sick Fascist puke that encourages slave labor and cheer's on the corporations that exploit;s other human beings for profit!!I am convinced there is a special place in HELL for corporate cock suckers like you that exploit people for PROFIT.
Now like a good Fascist complain that the middle class is shrinking and you just have no idea why, while your coward ass that makes every excuse in the book for the greedy corporations screws over millions more people.
Oh and the simple answer to your Fascist rant about corporations sitting on cash....duh no shit because their is no demand since they have destroyed the middle class.Duh, duh,duh.Now stick your head back up the corporate ass and keep wondering about what happened to the middle class .
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Yes, yes, we know, tank...the "highly-skilled union guy" screwing a bolt into a piece of sheet metal 1,453 times a day is the invaluable asset that makes corporations their mega-profits. Without him, corporations would be dead broke. It's the union guy who understands how wealth is created.
In other news, tank wants us all to know that its the hot dog vendor who wins championships, not the high talented athletes on the field, or coaches, or the upper management who drafts and signs players and manages payroll.
Thanks tank, always great to be educated how the world REALLY works!
:flatten
The rest of your rant is the usual class-warfare socialist bullshit we already heard from Hoffa and are going to hear from the Kenyan tomorrow night. Workers good; corporate fat cats... blah, blah blah....
Lemme tell ya something, if you ran any company according to your idiotic Alice in Wonderland "workers should be paid as much as CEOs" principles, your company would go belly up within weeks. Hell, even if your CEO made only 10 times the avg. wage of his/her workforce, its safe to assume he/she won't know what they are doing and your company will soon be drowning in a sea of red ink.
Newsflash: CEOs get paid big salaries because not everyone knows how to make millions of dollars and manage thousands of employees, whereas you get paid what you get paid because millions of scrubs can do your job. It's that pesky supply-demand thing again.
CEOs to Obama: 'Get Out of the Way' for Job Growth
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44409176
For crissakes, can we finally get someone in Washington who UNDERSTANDS ECONOMICS before the entire economy collapses!! 2348ji23e
Yes, yes, we know, tank...the "highly-skilled union guy" screwing a bolt into a piece of sheet metal 1,453 times a day is the invaluable asset that makes corporations their mega-profits. Without him, corporations would be dead broke. It's the union guy who understands how wealth is created.
In other news, tank wants us all to know that its the hot dog vendor who wins championships, not the high talented athletes on the field, or coaches, or the upper management who drafts and signs players and manages payroll.
Thanks tank, always great to be educated how the world REALLY works!
:flatten
The rest of your rant is the usual class-warfare socialist bullshit we already heard from Hoffa and are going to hear from the Kenyan tomorrow night. Workers good; corporate fat cats... blah, blah blah....
Lemme tell ya something, if you ran any company according to your idiotic Alice in Wonderland "workers should be paid as much as CEOs" principles, your company would go belly up within weeks. Hell, even if your CEO made only 10 times the avg. wage of his/her workforce, its safe to assume he/she won't know what they are doing and your company will soon be drowning in a sea of red ink.
Newsflash: CEOs get paid big salaries because not everyone knows how to make millions of dollars and manage thousands of employees, whereas you get paid what you get paid because millions of scrubs can do your job. It's that pesky supply-demand thing again.
CEOs to Obama: 'Get Out of the Way' for Job Growth
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44409176
For crissakes, can we finally get someone in Washington who UNDERSTANDS ECONOMICS before the entire economy collapses!! 2348ji23e
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
More fun facts:
No wonder union thugs are freaking out and "declaring war" on the Tea Party. 2938u4ji23
More fun facts:
No wonder union thugs are freaking out and "declaring war" on the Tea Party. 2938u4ji23
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Blah,blah,blah, yes Joe that is all union guys do!They do not run million dollar equipment or a process that turns out millions in profit.Is this all you have to try and bring union people down to your retarded level??Is this what your envy is all about??You are a coward that will never stand up for yourself so all you have is to resort to your obvious envy rants!!Keep being a corporate cocksucker and take it up the ass with a smile on your face and wonder why the middle class has disappeared.You and your Fascist buddies can laugh all the way through the soup line pretending you are not there.
Yes, yes, we know, tank...the "highly-skilled union guy" screwing a bolt into a piece of sheet metal 1,453 times a day is the invaluable asset that makes corporations their mega-profits. Without him, corporations would be dead broke. It's the union guy who understands how wealth is created.
In other news, tank wants us all to know that its the hot dog vendor who wins championships, not the high talented athletes on the field, or coaches, or the upper management who drafts and signs players and manages payroll.
Thanks tank, always great to be educated how the world REALLY works!
:flatten
The rest of your rant is the usual class-warfare socialist bullshit we already heard from Hoffa and are going to hear from the Kenyan tomorrow night. Workers good; corporate fat cats... blah, blah blah....
Lemme tell ya something, if you ran any company according to your idiotic Alice in Wonderland "workers should be paid as much as CEOs" principles, your company would go belly up within weeks. Hell, even if your CEO made only 10 times the avg. wage of his/her workforce, its safe to assume he/she won't know what they are doing and your company will soon be drowning in a sea of red ink.
Newsflash: CEOs get paid big salaries because not everyone knows how to make millions of dollars and manage thousands of employees, whereas you get paid what you get paid because millions of scrubs can do your job. It's that pesky supply-demand thing again.
CEOs to Obama: 'Get Out of the Way' for Job Growth
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44409176
For crissakes, can we finally get someone in Washington who UNDERSTANDS ECONOMICS before the entire economy collapses!! 2348ji23e
Blah,blah,blah, yes Joe that is all union guys do!They do not run million dollar equipment or a process that turns out millions in profit.Is this all you have to try and bring union people down to your retarded level??Is this what your envy is all about??You are a coward that will never stand up for yourself so all you have is to resort to your obvious envy rants!!Keep being a corporate cocksucker and take it up the ass with a smile on your face and wonder why the middle class has disappeared.You and your Fascist buddies can laugh all the way through the soup line pretending you are not there.
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Another fun fact....
States with the highest poverty rates are overwhelming right to work states.
http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/2010/09/17/top-secret-list-of-10-states-with-the-highest-poverty-rates/
More fun facts:
No wonder union thugs are freaking out and "declaring war" on the Tea Party. 2938u4ji23
Another fun fact....
States with the highest poverty rates are overwhelming right to work states.
http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/2010/09/17/top-secret-list-of-10-states-with-the-highest-poverty-rates/
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Your argument is self-defeating.
If nobody will meet your salary demands and you need to use FORCE (union bullying) to achieve your objectives, then you are overpaid, plain and simple. So what if you're handling millions of dollars worth of equipment, if you were that indispensable then someone would pay you, voluntarily. The fact is, they don't...which is why you joined a union. (DUH!) Because your $29.42hr wage (not including benefits) in a free market is closer to $11-12hr.
No wonder these union states go to crap!
The world according to tank:
This guy should be paid the same salary as the ace pitcher because he's just as indispensable to winning a championship. How do we know this?
Tank Hoffa says so! Pay up, or else!
:3dgros13:
Your argument is self-defeating.
If nobody will meet your salary demands and you need to use FORCE (union bullying) to achieve your objectives, then you are overpaid, plain and simple. So what if you're handling millions of dollars worth of equipment, if you were that indispensable then someone would pay you, voluntarily. The fact is, they don't...which is why you joined a union. (DUH!) Because your $29.42hr wage (not including benefits) in a free market is closer to $11-12hr.
No wonder these union states go to crap!
The world according to tank:
This guy should be paid the same salary as the ace pitcher because he's just as indispensable to winning a championship. How do we know this?
Tank Hoffa says so! Pay up, or else!
:3dgros13:Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Unlike the Tea Party, unions have a looooooooong history of bullying, sabotage and even murder!
A HISTORY OF UNION MURDER AND SABOTAGE
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Those hard-working, innocent, and loyal Americans who either refuse to join labor unions or who rely on government services provided exclusively by labor unions (due to the political muscle of the AFL-CIO and its allies in both the Democrat and Republican parties) are the ones who suffer. Just as mail delivery was sabotaged in 1894 (in fact, the word "sabotage" derives from the practice of French laborers hurling their clogs, or sabots, into machinery as a protest against management), Americans in recent times have also suffered.
In January 1999, members of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers union toppled two transmission line towers at Thompson Pass, Alaska, depriving 400,000 Alaskans of power in the dead of winter. Also protesting the hiring of nonunion electrical workers, the unionists shot guns and assaulted the strikebreakers. Just two months ago, members of the Sanitation Workers Union in New York Citysabotaged snow removal efforts following a blizzard at the end of December, crippling the city and resulting in several deaths, due to the inability of ambulances to reach critical patients in time.
According to the National Institute for Labor Relations Research, there have been over 9,000 documented cases of union violence since 1975, and of these, only 1,963 arrests and 258 convictions have been made; due to the collective political power of unions, only 3 percent of union thugs have been convicted of their crimes. The institute also reports that local law enforcement authorities are frequently overwhelmed by the number of participants in union violence, who sometimes lash out by blaming the company targeted by union militants for trying to continue its legal operation in the face of illegal violence.
Socialists and their comrades in the unions believe that human life is cheap and that people are merely “matter in motion,” explaining the litany of murders and atrocities committed by union operatives. Without the basis of respect for an individual’s right to life, it logically follows that they also lack respectfor property rights:
• In 1905, Governor Frank Steunenberg (D-Idaho) was assassinated by members of the militant Western Federation of Miners, due to his refusal to cave to their demands.
• In 1990, the Teamsters Union in New York City struck against the New York Daily News, and pelted replacement drivers with bricks, rocks, and baseball bats, and one Teamster was charged with transporting Molotov cocktails.
• In 1991, Steelworkers Local 5668 in West Virginia was found responsible for committing over 700 act of violence against strikebreakers, including two house bombings, six house shootings, four arsons, and 43 death threats.
• In 1993, 16,000 members of the United Mine Workers went on strike in West Virginia. Non-union subcontractor Eddie York refused to walk out, and was shot in the head by union thugs. Callously endorsing the murder, Richard Trumka (now head of the AFL-CIO, and widely known as Obama’s puppet-master), said "if you strike a match and put your finger in, common sense tells you you're going to burn your finger."
• In 1997, Teamsters Local 769 in Miami ordered a strike against UPS, and UPS driver Rod Carter, refusing to strike, was stopped and stabbed with an ice pick while on his route. Another driver testified that union bosses sanctioned the stabbing.
• In 2005, Andrew Shomers of Laborers Union Local 91 in Buffalo, N.Y. pleaded guilty to vandalizing local housing authority offices and firebombing workers on an asbestos-removal project.
The above are but a few of the many documented cases of union violence, which currently go unprosecuted under the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) decision US v. Enmons (1973), in which SCOTUS ruled that union violence, if carried out to further the goals of a union, does not violate the provisions of the Hobbs Act, which prohibits extortion affecting interstate or foreign commerce.
Essentially, SCOTUS gave official sanction to terrorism on American soil when the terrorists are labor unions, necessitating legislation such as the Freedom from Union Violence Act (FUVA), which would amend the Hobbs Act to override Enmons by criminalizing union violence. The legislation was last proposed in 2007 by 17 Republican members of Congress, including Rep. Ron Paul, and has yet to be proposed again in the Republican-controlled 112th Congress.
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What a fucking cancer to civilized society! Who needs al-Qaeda when a union will do just fine! 2938u4ji23
Unlike the Tea Party, unions have a looooooooong history of bullying, sabotage and even murder!
A HISTORY OF UNION MURDER AND SABOTAGE
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WRITTEN BY DANIEL SAYANI
[TD="class: createdate"]MONDAY, 28 FEBRUARY 2011 10:58[/TD]
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The raging union-led protests in Wisconsin have resulted in many Americans taking a closer, more critical look at labor unions and their political clout and influence in shaping policy. With the ubiquitous announcement from AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka that he is granted an audience at the White House “nearly every day,” the American people have become more skeptical of unions and the role that they play in the political process.
Spawning this renewed attention to organized labor are reports that Democratic politicians have been endorsing violence as a legitimate means of protest and political expression. Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) has gone as far as telling a crowd of protesters at a union rally that they should be unafraid to “get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary,” and several other protesters took Capuano’s advice to heart, as former Tea Party Republican congressional candidate Marty Lamb, who ran against Democrat Rep. Jim McGovern in the 2010 elections, was reportedly brutally pummeled to the ground by union operatives at the same rally where Capuano issued his charge to violence.
However, the events that are unfolding now across the country must be placed within the context of organized labor’s broader history of violence and its historical embrace of brutal physical force as a means of legitimate political expression (which crosses the line into what is commonly defined as terrorism). The violence surrounding the various labor uprisings across America is part of a broader culture of bloodlust and savage turbulence within organized labor that has marred the movement since its inception in the late 19th century. It has clear roots in violent, anarcho-communist ideology that lacks any regard for natural rights of life, liberty, and private property — and it threatens the very foundations of our constitutional republic.
Under the presidency of Grover Cleveland, organized labor began to gain clout, and also assumed a bloody persona, as evidenced by the willingness of unions to use savage force to get their own way. The first tragedy to put labor unions squarely within the national consciousness was the Haymarket Square Massacre of May 4, 1886, in which striking union workers threw a bomb at Chicago police, killing eight police officers and countless civilians, after being incited to their lethal rampage by socialist Samuel Fielden (not unlike how Marty Lamb was beaten after the crowd of unionists was inflamed to violence by “progressive” Rep. Capuano).
Similarly, whenever labor unions perceive any threat to their hegemony and dominance in the workforce, they have a propensity to react with bloodshed. On July 6, 1892, union workers at Andrew Carnegie’s steel plant in Homestead, Pennsylvania were enraged when after going on strike, Carnegie hired non-union strikebreakers, resulting in the Amalgamated Association of Steel and Iron Workers union battling private Pinkerton guards and the Pennsylvania militia. Likewise, on May 11, 1894, 4,000 employees of George Pullman’s railroad company erupted into violent riots, sabotaging the delivery of mail (interstate commerce) to innocent Americans, and forcing President Cleveland to send in federal troops, declaring: “If it takes the entire army and navy of the United States to deliver a postal card in Chicago, that card will be delivered.”
Historians well know that past events are the best predicters of future behavior and phenomena. The events of the late 19th century are playing themselves out all over again almost 120 years later, with the vast majority of Americans suffering (according to modest estimates, no more than 20 percent of all American workers belonged to unions at any point in history), as best expressed by The New York World, in its report on the Pullman strike:
Those hard-working, innocent, and loyal Americans who either refuse to join labor unions or who rely on government services provided exclusively by labor unions (due to the political muscle of the AFL-CIO and its allies in both the Democrat and Republican parties) are the ones who suffer. Just as mail delivery was sabotaged in 1894 (in fact, the word "sabotage" derives from the practice of French laborers hurling their clogs, or sabots, into machinery as a protest against management), Americans in recent times have also suffered.
In January 1999, members of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers union toppled two transmission line towers at Thompson Pass, Alaska, depriving 400,000 Alaskans of power in the dead of winter. Also protesting the hiring of nonunion electrical workers, the unionists shot guns and assaulted the strikebreakers. Just two months ago, members of the Sanitation Workers Union in New York Citysabotaged snow removal efforts following a blizzard at the end of December, crippling the city and resulting in several deaths, due to the inability of ambulances to reach critical patients in time.
According to the National Institute for Labor Relations Research, there have been over 9,000 documented cases of union violence since 1975, and of these, only 1,963 arrests and 258 convictions have been made; due to the collective political power of unions, only 3 percent of union thugs have been convicted of their crimes. The institute also reports that local law enforcement authorities are frequently overwhelmed by the number of participants in union violence, who sometimes lash out by blaming the company targeted by union militants for trying to continue its legal operation in the face of illegal violence.
Socialists and their comrades in the unions believe that human life is cheap and that people are merely “matter in motion,” explaining the litany of murders and atrocities committed by union operatives. Without the basis of respect for an individual’s right to life, it logically follows that they also lack respectfor property rights:
• In 1905, Governor Frank Steunenberg (D-Idaho) was assassinated by members of the militant Western Federation of Miners, due to his refusal to cave to their demands.
• In 1990, the Teamsters Union in New York City struck against the New York Daily News, and pelted replacement drivers with bricks, rocks, and baseball bats, and one Teamster was charged with transporting Molotov cocktails.
• In 1991, Steelworkers Local 5668 in West Virginia was found responsible for committing over 700 act of violence against strikebreakers, including two house bombings, six house shootings, four arsons, and 43 death threats.
• In 1993, 16,000 members of the United Mine Workers went on strike in West Virginia. Non-union subcontractor Eddie York refused to walk out, and was shot in the head by union thugs. Callously endorsing the murder, Richard Trumka (now head of the AFL-CIO, and widely known as Obama’s puppet-master), said "if you strike a match and put your finger in, common sense tells you you're going to burn your finger."
• In 1997, Teamsters Local 769 in Miami ordered a strike against UPS, and UPS driver Rod Carter, refusing to strike, was stopped and stabbed with an ice pick while on his route. Another driver testified that union bosses sanctioned the stabbing.
• In 2005, Andrew Shomers of Laborers Union Local 91 in Buffalo, N.Y. pleaded guilty to vandalizing local housing authority offices and firebombing workers on an asbestos-removal project.
The above are but a few of the many documented cases of union violence, which currently go unprosecuted under the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) decision US v. Enmons (1973), in which SCOTUS ruled that union violence, if carried out to further the goals of a union, does not violate the provisions of the Hobbs Act, which prohibits extortion affecting interstate or foreign commerce.
Essentially, SCOTUS gave official sanction to terrorism on American soil when the terrorists are labor unions, necessitating legislation such as the Freedom from Union Violence Act (FUVA), which would amend the Hobbs Act to override Enmons by criminalizing union violence. The legislation was last proposed in 2007 by 17 Republican members of Congress, including Rep. Ron Paul, and has yet to be proposed again in the Republican-controlled 112th Congress.
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What a fucking cancer to civilized society! Who needs al-Qaeda when a union will do just fine! 2938u4ji23
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
But employers are still paying people over $30 an hour an making record profits so your envy rant is just more bullshit.You are stupid but let me try and help you...contracts are negotiated with bargaining and when both sides agree to the deal then the contract is ratified!!Real simple and companies do not agree to anything they cannot afford .It is envious low wage scabs like you that try to bring people down to your level but it will not work here.With less then 10% of the jobs union this Fascist scab is trying to convince people that all jobs moving are union.Math much ??:LMAO
Your argument is self-defeating.
If nobody will meet your salary demands and you need to use FORCE (union bullying) to achieve your objectives, then you are overpaid, plain and simple. So what if you're handling millions of dollars worth of equipment, if you were that indispensable then someone would pay you, voluntarily. The fact is, they don't...which is why you joined a union. (DUH!) Because your $29.42hr wage (not including benefits) in a free market is closer to $11-12hr.
No wonder these union states go to crap!
The world according to tank:
This guy should be paid the same salary as the ace pitcher because he's just as indispensable to winning a championship. How do we know this?
Tank Hoffa says so! Pay up, or else!
But employers are still paying people over $30 an hour an making record profits so your envy rant is just more bullshit.You are stupid but let me try and help you...contracts are negotiated with bargaining and when both sides agree to the deal then the contract is ratified!!Real simple and companies do not agree to anything they cannot afford .It is envious low wage scabs like you that try to bring people down to your level but it will not work here.With less then 10% of the jobs union this Fascist scab is trying to convince people that all jobs moving are union.Math much ??:LMAO
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
And those poor corporations never did the same thing right Fascist scab??Poor corporations just trying to help American workers and every one is picking on them right Joe??Fascist pukes like you are a disgrace to brave men and women who stand up for what they believe in...go cower in the corner you cowardly puke with the rest of the scum who take the corporate weiner up the ass.Unlike the Tea Party, unions have a looooooooong history of bullying, sabotage and even murder!
A HISTORY OF UNION MURDER AND SABOTAGE
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[TD="class: createdate"]MONDAY, 28 FEBRUARY 2011 10:58[/TD]
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Spawning this renewed attention to organized labor are reports that Democratic politicians have been endorsing violence as a legitimate means of protest and political expression. Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) has gone as far as telling a crowd of protesters at a union rally that they should be unafraid to “get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary,” and several other protesters took Capuano’s advice to heart, as former Tea Party Republican congressional candidate Marty Lamb, who ran against Democrat Rep. Jim McGovern in the 2010 elections, was reportedly brutally pummeled to the ground by union operatives at the same rally where Capuano issued his charge to violence.
However, the events that are unfolding now across the country must be placed within the context of organized labor’s broader history of violence and its historical embrace of brutal physical force as a means of legitimate political expression (which crosses the line into what is commonly defined as terrorism). The violence surrounding the various labor uprisings across America is part of a broader culture of bloodlust and savage turbulence within organized labor that has marred the movement since its inception in the late 19th century. It has clear roots in violent, anarcho-communist ideology that lacks any regard for natural rights of life, liberty, and private property — and it threatens the very foundations of our constitutional republic.
Under the presidency of Grover Cleveland, organized labor began to gain clout, and also assumed a bloody persona, as evidenced by the willingness of unions to use savage force to get their own way. The first tragedy to put labor unions squarely within the national consciousness was the Haymarket Square Massacre of May 4, 1886, in which striking union workers threw a bomb at Chicago police, killing eight police officers and countless civilians, after being incited to their lethal rampage by socialist Samuel Fielden (not unlike how Marty Lamb was beaten after the crowd of unionists was inflamed to violence by “progressive” Rep. Capuano).
Similarly, whenever labor unions perceive any threat to their hegemony and dominance in the workforce, they have a propensity to react with bloodshed. On July 6, 1892, union workers at Andrew Carnegie’s steel plant in Homestead, Pennsylvania were enraged when after going on strike, Carnegie hired non-union strikebreakers, resulting in the Amalgamated Association of Steel and Iron Workers union battling private Pinkerton guards and the Pennsylvania militia. Likewise, on May 11, 1894, 4,000 employees of George Pullman’s railroad company erupted into violent riots, sabotaging the delivery of mail (interstate commerce) to innocent Americans, and forcing President Cleveland to send in federal troops, declaring: “If it takes the entire army and navy of the United States to deliver a postal card in Chicago, that card will be delivered.”
Historians well know that past events are the best predicters of future behavior and phenomena. The events of the late 19th century are playing themselves out all over again almost 120 years later, with the vast majority of Americans suffering (according to modest estimates, no more than 20 percent of all American workers belonged to unions at any point in history), as best expressed by The New York World, in its report on the Pullman strike:
Those hard-working, innocent, and loyal Americans who either refuse to join labor unions or who rely on government services provided exclusively by labor unions (due to the political muscle of the AFL-CIO and its allies in both the Democrat and Republican parties) are the ones who suffer. Just as mail delivery was sabotaged in 1894 (in fact, the word "sabotage" derives from the practice of French laborers hurling their clogs, or sabots, into machinery as a protest against management), Americans in recent times have also suffered.
In January 1999, members of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers union toppled two transmission line towers at Thompson Pass, Alaska, depriving 400,000 Alaskans of power in the dead of winter. Also protesting the hiring of nonunion electrical workers, the unionists shot guns and assaulted the strikebreakers. Just two months ago, members of the Sanitation Workers Union in New York Citysabotaged snow removal efforts following a blizzard at the end of December, crippling the city and resulting in several deaths, due to the inability of ambulances to reach critical patients in time.
According to the National Institute for Labor Relations Research, there have been over 9,000 documented cases of union violence since 1975, and of these, only 1,963 arrests and 258 convictions have been made; due to the collective political power of unions, only 3 percent of union thugs have been convicted of their crimes. The institute also reports that local law enforcement authorities are frequently overwhelmed by the number of participants in union violence, who sometimes lash out by blaming the company targeted by union militants for trying to continue its legal operation in the face of illegal violence.
Socialists and their comrades in the unions believe that human life is cheap and that people are merely “matter in motion,” explaining the litany of murders and atrocities committed by union operatives. Without the basis of respect for an individual’s right to life, it logically follows that they also lack respectfor property rights:
• In 1905, Governor Frank Steunenberg (D-Idaho) was assassinated by members of the militant Western Federation of Miners, due to his refusal to cave to their demands.
• In 1990, the Teamsters Union in New York City struck against the New York Daily News, and pelted replacement drivers with bricks, rocks, and baseball bats, and one Teamster was charged with transporting Molotov cocktails.
• In 1991, Steelworkers Local 5668 in West Virginia was found responsible for committing over 700 act of violence against strikebreakers, including two house bombings, six house shootings, four arsons, and 43 death threats.
• In 1993, 16,000 members of the United Mine Workers went on strike in West Virginia. Non-union subcontractor Eddie York refused to walk out, and was shot in the head by union thugs. Callously endorsing the murder, Richard Trumka (now head of the AFL-CIO, and widely known as Obama’s puppet-master), said "if you strike a match and put your finger in, common sense tells you you're going to burn your finger."
• In 1997, Teamsters Local 769 in Miami ordered a strike against UPS, and UPS driver Rod Carter, refusing to strike, was stopped and stabbed with an ice pick while on his route. Another driver testified that union bosses sanctioned the stabbing.
• In 2005, Andrew Shomers of Laborers Union Local 91 in Buffalo, N.Y. pleaded guilty to vandalizing local housing authority offices and firebombing workers on an asbestos-removal project.
The above are but a few of the many documented cases of union violence, which currently go unprosecuted under the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) decision US v. Enmons (1973), in which SCOTUS ruled that union violence, if carried out to further the goals of a union, does not violate the provisions of the Hobbs Act, which prohibits extortion affecting interstate or foreign commerce.
Essentially, SCOTUS gave official sanction to terrorism on American soil when the terrorists are labor unions, necessitating legislation such as the Freedom from Union Violence Act (FUVA), which would amend the Hobbs Act to override Enmons by criminalizing union violence. The legislation was last proposed in 2007 by 17 Republican members of Congress, including Rep. Ron Paul, and has yet to be proposed again in the Republican-controlled 112th Congress.
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What a fucking cancer to civilized society! Who needs al-Qaeda when a union will do just fine! 2938u4ji23
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Your hero Ron Paul agrees with me:
UNION BULLYING AND VIOLENCE HAVE NO PLACE IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY!
Tank Hoffa's rebuttal:
:jealous:
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Your hero Ron Paul agrees with me:
UNION BULLYING AND VIOLENCE HAVE NO PLACE IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY!
Tank Hoffa's rebuttal:
:jealous:
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Who is saying the vender should be paid the same as the ace pitcher???????That is another one of your phony strawman idiotic rants that is pushed by tards like you.
Your argument is self-defeating.
The world according to tank:
This guy should be paid the same salary as the ace pitcher because he's just as indispensable to winning a championship. How do we know this?
Tank Hoffa says so! Pay up, or else!
Who is saying the vender should be paid the same as the ace pitcher???????That is another one of your phony strawman idiotic rants that is pushed by tards like you.
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
He is right!!Their is no need for it!!99.9% of union workers agree with that too but like the Fascist Party has a hard time controlling you, the union cannot police everyone either.You and the other1% idiots are no different!!:LMAO
He is right!!Their is no need for it!!99.9% of union workers agree with that too but like the Fascist Party has a hard time controlling you, the union cannot police everyone either.You and the other1% idiots are no different!!:LMAO
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
You are.
You're the envious loser always bitching and moaning about the disparity in salaries between executives vs labor.
Its the same argument: supply and demand.
Not everyone can throw a fastball at 96 miles an hour. But just about everyone can sell hot dogs and peanuts in the stands.
Is it 'fair' that the ace pitcher makes 10 million a season vs. the vendor who earns minimum wage?
Is it 'fair' tank Hoffa?
Maybe the vendors should join your union and exercise their "rights"!!
You are.
You're the envious loser always bitching and moaning about the disparity in salaries between executives vs labor.
Its the same argument: supply and demand.
Not everyone can throw a fastball at 96 miles an hour. But just about everyone can sell hot dogs and peanuts in the stands.
Is it 'fair' that the ace pitcher makes 10 million a season vs. the vendor who earns minimum wage?
Is it 'fair' tank Hoffa?
Maybe the vendors should join your union and exercise their "rights"!!
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Again you are the one trying to make the argument that the vendor should get paid the same as the ace pitcher and not me.Just like with your Deportliberals handle you keep talking in circles rambling on like an idiot and showing how stupid you are.
More idiotic ramblings from you.We are the ones standing up for what we believe in while cowardly scabs like you just accept everything corporate America rams up your ass with a smile on your face.Cowardly scabs like you deserve nothing and get what you deserve.You are.
You're the envious loser always bitching about the disparity between upper management salaries vs labor salaries.
Its the same argument: supply-demand.
Not everyone can throw a fastball at 96 miles an hour. But just about everyone can sell hot dogs and peanuts in the stands.
Is it 'fair' that the ace pitcher makes 10 million a season vs. the vendor who earns minimum wage? Is it 'fair' tank?
Maybe the vendors should unionize!! They're not being paid their fair share!!
Again you are the one trying to make the argument that the vendor should get paid the same as the ace pitcher and not me.Just like with your Deportliberals handle you keep talking in circles rambling on like an idiot and showing how stupid you are.
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Of course he is right.
And I suppose you agreed with Ron Paul's answer on the minimum wage in last night's debate as well huh?
:LMAO
Of course he is right.
And I suppose you agreed with Ron Paul's answer on the minimum wage in last night's debate as well huh?
:LMAO
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
You are the envious scab always complaining about wages and benefits that brave men and women fight for not me.You and your Fascist buddies put all these CEO's on a pedestal and think they are the smartest man in the room but you fail to mention all the CEO's that have bankrupted ton's of businesses and walked away with million dollar settlements.How do you explain that to the stockholders huh??Blah, blah , blah it's the unions fault....but it is not a union shop so who do we blame now???Oh yeah it is the governments fault then right??You Fascist pukes always try to blame someone other then the CEO who got you in the mess to begin with.You are.
You're the envious loser always bitching and moaning about the disparity in salaries between executives vs labor.
Its the same argument: supply and demand.
Not everyone can throw a fastball at 96 miles an hour. But just about everyone can sell hot dogs and peanuts in the stands.
Is it 'fair' that the ace pitcher makes 10 million a season vs. the vendor who earns minimum wage?
Is it 'fair' tank Hoffa?
Maybe the vendors should join your union and exercise their "rights"!!
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Oh boy! Grab the popcorn boys and girls!
op:
(Am I good or what?) :btj:
Ron Paul on Unions and Collective Bargaining
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Oh boy! Grab the popcorn boys and girls!
op:(Am I good or what?) :btj:
Ron Paul on Unions and Collective Bargaining
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Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
You are just rehashing shit we have already been through.If minimum wage is eliminated is the price of a Big Mac going to come down??Is the demand going to be higher so they have to hire more employees??Look no further then Wal MART to get your answer??90% of their shit comes from China but their employees here are so low paid they have the taxpayers paying for their insurance.Just more corporate welfare that you seem to not mind but whine, bitch and complain if a low paid worker get's it.Fascist pukes like you are un American and a disgrace to this country.Go crawl in a hole scumbag!!
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
He is spot on again!!This is PUBLIC UNIONS retard and the taxpayer is paying their salary so they should have a say in what the pay and benefits are.Just like your Deportliberals handle you are showing how stupid you are!!Please continue retard!op:
Oh boy! Grab the popcorn boys and girls!
(Am I good or what?) :btj:
Ron Paul on Unions and Collective Bargaining
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He is spot on again!!This is PUBLIC UNIONS retard and the taxpayer is paying their salary so they should have a say in what the pay and benefits are.Just like your Deportliberals handle you are showing how stupid you are!!Please continue retard!
op:Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
How can he be "spot on" when he supported the actions of Gov Walker in WI? I thought Gov. Walker (and everyone who supported him) was a "fascist puke"?
Is Ron Paul a "fascist puke" now too? :+clueless
Are you going to make me go dig up the Gov. Walker threads?op:
He is spot on again!!This is PUBLIC UNIONS retard and the taxpayer is paying their salary so they should have a say in what the pay and benefits are.Just like your Deportliberals handle you are showing how stupid you are!!Please continue retard!
How can he be "spot on" when he supported the actions of Gov Walker in WI? I thought Gov. Walker (and everyone who supported him) was a "fascist puke"?
Is Ron Paul a "fascist puke" now too? :+clueless
Are you going to make me go dig up the Gov. Walker threads?
op:Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
How many stupid pills did you take today??What part of PUBLIC UNION do you not understand??Go look in those threads and you will see what I thought was wrong with that but stay on topic for once in your life you bi polar idiot.Cliff notes version is...they agreed to pay more for their insurance and retirement but Walker wanted to eliminate them from everything after giving out million in tax breaks to corporations and trying to have the teachers pay for it.You know kinda like what they do in Texas.How can he be "spot on" when he supported the actions of Gov Walker in WI? I thought Gov. Walker (and everyone who supported him) was a "fascist puke"?
Is Ron Paul a "fascist puke" now too? :+clueless
Are you going to make me go dig up the Gov. Walker threads?
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
"You Want Your F---ing Camera Broken?"
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Between Richard Trumka's special invitation to the president's "jobs speech," his despicable AFL-CIO 9/11 "tribute" essay, and the AFL-CIO affiliated ILWU's riot and hostage-taking in Washington State, we've been discussing organized labor quite a lot this week. Luckily for the embattled unions, a reporter from Portland, Oregon-based KGW-TV ventured over to the local ILWU headquarters to cover their side of the story. A friendly, staid, and eloquent employee greeted the news crew and calmly explained the situation. Just kidding. He went ballistic, screeching every profane slur in the book, and threatening to commit physical assault and destroy their equipment.
*Extreme* content warning:
Happy Friday from a core Democratic Party constituency!
UPDATE - It has come to my attention that my headline is inaccurate. This delightful gentleman asked the cameraman if he wanted his equipment "broke." Townhall regrets the error.
"You Want Your F---ing Camera Broken?"
9/9/2011 | Email Guy Benson | All Posts By Blogger
Between Richard Trumka's special invitation to the president's "jobs speech," his despicable AFL-CIO 9/11 "tribute" essay, and the AFL-CIO affiliated ILWU's riot and hostage-taking in Washington State, we've been discussing organized labor quite a lot this week. Luckily for the embattled unions, a reporter from Portland, Oregon-based KGW-TV ventured over to the local ILWU headquarters to cover their side of the story. A friendly, staid, and eloquent employee greeted the news crew and calmly explained the situation. Just kidding. He went ballistic, screeching every profane slur in the book, and threatening to commit physical assault and destroy their equipment.
*Extreme* content warning:
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Happy Friday from a core Democratic Party constituency!
UPDATE - It has come to my attention that my headline is inaccurate. This delightful gentleman asked the cameraman if he wanted his equipment "broke." Townhall regrets the error.
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Is this all the Canadian fraud has???
Is this all the Canadian fraud has???
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Small irony how the union thug accuses the reporters of "trespassing"...that's exactly how private business should treat ALL these mafioso sonsofbitches whenever they step on private property property soliciting their workers.
Small irony how the union thug accuses the reporters of "trespassing"...that's exactly how private business should treat ALL these mafioso sonsofbitches whenever they step on private property property soliciting their workers.
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
You really are pretty stupid but the guy use to work there until another union got the jobs!1It is a union shop stupid!!So yes the reporter was trespassing since he never worked there but the union guy did and was cleaning out his locker!!They make over $35 an hour too.....hope that makes you more envious you Canadian loser!!
Small irony how the union thug accuses the reporters of "trespassing"...that's exactly how private business should treat ALL these mafioso sonsofbitches whenever they step on private property property soliciting their workers.
You really are pretty stupid but the guy use to work there until another union got the jobs!1It is a union shop stupid!!So yes the reporter was trespassing since he never worked there but the union guy did and was cleaning out his locker!!They make over $35 an hour too.....hope that makes you more envious you Canadian loser!!
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
State of the unions
How public opinion turned so sharply and suddenly against worker groups
By MAUREEN CALLAHAN
Last Updated:4:35 AM, September 4, 2011
Posted:11:21 PM, September 3, 2011
This summer, something remarkable happened: 45,000 Verizon workers went on strike, and no one — save a few customers dealing with service interruptions — much cared.
The communications behemoth wanted more than 100 concessions on health care, pensions, sick days and outsourcing. Unions representing the workers said Verizon sought to void 50 years of collective-bargaining gains for middle-class workers, despite posting a 2.8% jump in revenue in the second quarter, up to $27.5 billion.
Thirteen days later, those on strike went back to work on good faith, the company guaranteeing nothing other than continued talks.
It’s an indictment of how anemic the labor movement in America has become, how irrelevant to the average worker that, even in this ever-contracting economy, the lower and middle classes couldn’t be agitated to care.
And why should they? Private-sector unions in the US are nearly extinct, having long ago abandoned an unwinnable fight against big business. Meanwhile, public-sector unions are thriving by comparison, even though public opinion has been on the decline since the rise of unions in the 1930s, when 72% of Americans had a favorable view of them.
By 2009, according to a Gallup poll, that number had declined to 48%. :btj: 91023i2ndw;l
How did this happen? How is it that the average American worker has come to view unionized labor — which, by definition, was meant to protect and progress each generation in ever-greater ways — with such contempt?
“At a certain historical moment, they had a real role to play, but they haven’t added to that,” says Jim Stergios, executive director of nonpartisan think tank the Pioneer Institute. “[They’re more concerned] that they meet their members’ needs at a time when the country is in a really rough spot.”
For New Yorkers especially, the prevailing attitude toward unions is akin to rent-stabilized apartments: great for the people who happened to luck into them, deeply unfair for those left to the vicissitudes of the free market.
And the unions, once self-branded as “the folks who brought you the weekend,” have only themselves to blame, long ago becoming the province of the few.
“There’s a big difference between a movement in the interest of the people, and an institution collecting dues and advancing the interests of its members,” says Barbara Ehrenreich, author of the modern-day classic “Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America.”
“I think,” she adds, “that unions continued to go on with business as usual, and didn’t realize that things had gotten a lot meaner.”
Today, for the average worker at a minimum-wage job, there’s no one to protect against getting fired for taking a sick day, or to force an employer to pay for a sick day, or to require a lunch break — let alone provide health care or pensions or vacations.
For any unprotected worker, unions have come to represent an increasingly polarized economy, the haves and the have-nots. The public sector is regarded with even more disdain — workers who are, in part, subsidized by taxpayers, yet seem to live in a hermetically sealed nation-state of their own.
Labor unions in America rose to power during the Great Depression, and in 1935 Congress passed the National Labor Relations Act, which ensured collective bargaining rights for workers. Yet when it came to the rights of public-sector workers to organize, even FDR warned against it, saying the notion of government workers striking against the government and, by extension, the taxpayers providing those salaries, was “unthinkable and intolerable.”
And so we have a schizophrenic relationship with unions, most recently illustrated by the private-sector strike against Verizon and the far uglier battle over public-sector rights to collective bargaining in Wisconsin.
That fight, spurred by Republican Gov. Scott Walker, has devolved into recall elections (largely unsuccessful), the banning of Republicans from the Labor Day Parade (since reversed) and the super-gluing of doors to a Catholic school ahead of the governor’s visit (mature). Not to mention the concessions wrung from fiscally starving governors, both Democrat and Republican, in New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts, and the battles over public-sector collective-bargaining rights in Ohio, Indiana, Michigan and Tennessee.
“This is extremely unusual from a historical standpoint,” says Terry Moe, professor of political science at Stanford University and author of “Special Interest: Teachers Unions and America’s Public Schools.” “This is a perfect storm.
Even the unions’ allies are saying, ‘We have to do something.’ ”
A Harris poll released this week shows similar dissonance, its headline more suited to The Onion: “Most Americans Critical of Unions While Crediting Them for Improving Wages and Working Conditions.” While 65% of those polled said unions had done much to spike pay and improve on-the-job safety and fair practices, 71% said unions are more concerned with fighting change than fighting for it.
Ehrenreich, the journalist and activist who worked a series of minimum-wage jobs to expose the plight of the working poor, believes that private-sector unions have become as bloated and ineffectual as the big businesses they ostensibly keep in check.
“In DC, the AFL-CIO is near the White House,” she says. “That’s very expensive real estate, and I don’t think they should be there. I think they should be in storefronts around the country. I don’t think they should regard themselves as a bureaucracy — and I sense, in big labor, bureaucratic sclerosis — but as a movement.”
Unions, after all, not only brought the American worker the weekend: They’re responsible for child-labor laws, sick pay, benefits, fairness in the workplace — even the inalienable right to bathroom breaks, a federally instituted right as of April 1998.
But union membership in the private sector has been on the decline for nearly 30 years, with 2010’s ratio — 6.9% of private-sector workers unionized vs. 36.2% public — about the same as 1983’s.
New York has one of the highest rates of unionized workers in the country, at 11.9%, but the gap between public and private is in keeping with the national norm: 14% of private vs. 71% of public, a historic high.
“Things are very, very difficult in the private sector right now,” says the Pioneer Institute’s Stergios. “With the Verizon strike — who looked bad in that? The unions are really out of whack with this high unemployment rate. If workers don’t give something up, they seem irrational. They need a reality check. ”
Private-sector unions hit their apex in the 1950s, largely representing blue-collar workers, and almost no one saw their imminent decline.
“Everyone thought they’d just keep going up,” says Moe. But a confluence of factors contributed to their erosion: a globalized economy and the outsourcing of jobs; the migration of businesses to the Sun Belt, where labor costs are lower and there’s less public support for unions; and good old-fashioned union-busting.
That trend started in the ’80s, says Ehrenreich, who cites President Ronald Reagan’s firing of striking air-traffic controllers as a big turning point in attitudes toward unionized labor. “That’s when you started having much more money spent on anti-labor consultants, union-busters.”
While organized labor in the private sector was steadily decomposing, it was flourishing in the public sector largely due to labor powerhouses such as the AFL-CIO and the UAW, long allied with the Democratic Party.
Those organizations succumbed to mission creep, seeking to expand their power base by promising money and votes in exchange for legislation that extended such rights to government workers: Cops, firefighters, sanitation workers and, of course, teachers, the largest and most powerful group in the organized public sector.
“Massachusetts is the best state in the nation educationally, and yet the Boston teachers contract is 225 pages in length,” Stergios says. “It states how many kids are allowed in a classroom, how many minutes before school officially starts can a teacher begin, how often is the principal allowed in the classroom — stuff that does not allow you to implement so-called best practices.”
Author Moe, too, thinks that the teachers unions have long been doing active harm, that the control they wield over nearly all of the system is unconscionable.
“Since 1980, when the teachers movement gets going, people have been saying, ‘Hey, we have to reform the schools.’ Why would they say that? Because, over the last quarter century, the teachers unions have been blocking reforms,” Moe says. “They want reforms to fail, to weaken accountability. They don’t like school choice, because it means they’ll all lose their jobs if kids leave.”
In the short term, he says, the outlook is grim, but in the long term, he sees the teachers unions busted not by government or by charter schools but technology.
“In 15 years, I think most children will be taking their classes online,” he says. “It’s a big train coming down the tracks that no one sees yet, but it will change the politics of education.”
As for the rest of the public-sector unions, they’re largely considered safe. You can’t mechanize cops or firefighters, and as for non-essential workers, the concessions won are only as substantial as state government and public opinion.
Moe doesn’t foresee a slackening of power among public-sector workers, despite the current wave of political and populist outrage. And this, he says, is not necessarily to the greater good.
“In another couple of years,” Moe says, “the storm will be over. They’ll have the same amount of members, the same power, and will do what they can to recover the ground they have lost.”
Stergios agrees. “The public sector will continue to take a lot of hits on collective bargaining,” he says. “But I don’t know if I see them dying anytime soon.”
Read more:http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinio...e_unions_vGDe6foy0BhvLsXfTtHGZO#ixzz1Xlt0AP6d
State of the unions
How public opinion turned so sharply and suddenly against worker groups
By MAUREEN CALLAHAN
Last Updated:4:35 AM, September 4, 2011
Posted:11:21 PM, September 3, 2011
This summer, something remarkable happened: 45,000 Verizon workers went on strike, and no one — save a few customers dealing with service interruptions — much cared.
The communications behemoth wanted more than 100 concessions on health care, pensions, sick days and outsourcing. Unions representing the workers said Verizon sought to void 50 years of collective-bargaining gains for middle-class workers, despite posting a 2.8% jump in revenue in the second quarter, up to $27.5 billion.
Thirteen days later, those on strike went back to work on good faith, the company guaranteeing nothing other than continued talks.
It’s an indictment of how anemic the labor movement in America has become, how irrelevant to the average worker that, even in this ever-contracting economy, the lower and middle classes couldn’t be agitated to care.
And why should they? Private-sector unions in the US are nearly extinct, having long ago abandoned an unwinnable fight against big business. Meanwhile, public-sector unions are thriving by comparison, even though public opinion has been on the decline since the rise of unions in the 1930s, when 72% of Americans had a favorable view of them.
By 2009, according to a Gallup poll, that number had declined to 48%. :btj: 91023i2ndw;l
How did this happen? How is it that the average American worker has come to view unionized labor — which, by definition, was meant to protect and progress each generation in ever-greater ways — with such contempt?
“At a certain historical moment, they had a real role to play, but they haven’t added to that,” says Jim Stergios, executive director of nonpartisan think tank the Pioneer Institute. “[They’re more concerned] that they meet their members’ needs at a time when the country is in a really rough spot.”
For New Yorkers especially, the prevailing attitude toward unions is akin to rent-stabilized apartments: great for the people who happened to luck into them, deeply unfair for those left to the vicissitudes of the free market.
And the unions, once self-branded as “the folks who brought you the weekend,” have only themselves to blame, long ago becoming the province of the few.
“There’s a big difference between a movement in the interest of the people, and an institution collecting dues and advancing the interests of its members,” says Barbara Ehrenreich, author of the modern-day classic “Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America.”
“I think,” she adds, “that unions continued to go on with business as usual, and didn’t realize that things had gotten a lot meaner.”
Today, for the average worker at a minimum-wage job, there’s no one to protect against getting fired for taking a sick day, or to force an employer to pay for a sick day, or to require a lunch break — let alone provide health care or pensions or vacations.
For any unprotected worker, unions have come to represent an increasingly polarized economy, the haves and the have-nots. The public sector is regarded with even more disdain — workers who are, in part, subsidized by taxpayers, yet seem to live in a hermetically sealed nation-state of their own.
Labor unions in America rose to power during the Great Depression, and in 1935 Congress passed the National Labor Relations Act, which ensured collective bargaining rights for workers. Yet when it came to the rights of public-sector workers to organize, even FDR warned against it, saying the notion of government workers striking against the government and, by extension, the taxpayers providing those salaries, was “unthinkable and intolerable.”
And so we have a schizophrenic relationship with unions, most recently illustrated by the private-sector strike against Verizon and the far uglier battle over public-sector rights to collective bargaining in Wisconsin.
That fight, spurred by Republican Gov. Scott Walker, has devolved into recall elections (largely unsuccessful), the banning of Republicans from the Labor Day Parade (since reversed) and the super-gluing of doors to a Catholic school ahead of the governor’s visit (mature). Not to mention the concessions wrung from fiscally starving governors, both Democrat and Republican, in New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts, and the battles over public-sector collective-bargaining rights in Ohio, Indiana, Michigan and Tennessee.
“This is extremely unusual from a historical standpoint,” says Terry Moe, professor of political science at Stanford University and author of “Special Interest: Teachers Unions and America’s Public Schools.” “This is a perfect storm.
Even the unions’ allies are saying, ‘We have to do something.’ ”
A Harris poll released this week shows similar dissonance, its headline more suited to The Onion: “Most Americans Critical of Unions While Crediting Them for Improving Wages and Working Conditions.” While 65% of those polled said unions had done much to spike pay and improve on-the-job safety and fair practices, 71% said unions are more concerned with fighting change than fighting for it.
Ehrenreich, the journalist and activist who worked a series of minimum-wage jobs to expose the plight of the working poor, believes that private-sector unions have become as bloated and ineffectual as the big businesses they ostensibly keep in check.
“In DC, the AFL-CIO is near the White House,” she says. “That’s very expensive real estate, and I don’t think they should be there. I think they should be in storefronts around the country. I don’t think they should regard themselves as a bureaucracy — and I sense, in big labor, bureaucratic sclerosis — but as a movement.”
Unions, after all, not only brought the American worker the weekend: They’re responsible for child-labor laws, sick pay, benefits, fairness in the workplace — even the inalienable right to bathroom breaks, a federally instituted right as of April 1998.
But union membership in the private sector has been on the decline for nearly 30 years, with 2010’s ratio — 6.9% of private-sector workers unionized vs. 36.2% public — about the same as 1983’s.
New York has one of the highest rates of unionized workers in the country, at 11.9%, but the gap between public and private is in keeping with the national norm: 14% of private vs. 71% of public, a historic high.
“Things are very, very difficult in the private sector right now,” says the Pioneer Institute’s Stergios. “With the Verizon strike — who looked bad in that? The unions are really out of whack with this high unemployment rate. If workers don’t give something up, they seem irrational. They need a reality check. ”
Private-sector unions hit their apex in the 1950s, largely representing blue-collar workers, and almost no one saw their imminent decline.
“Everyone thought they’d just keep going up,” says Moe. But a confluence of factors contributed to their erosion: a globalized economy and the outsourcing of jobs; the migration of businesses to the Sun Belt, where labor costs are lower and there’s less public support for unions; and good old-fashioned union-busting.
That trend started in the ’80s, says Ehrenreich, who cites President Ronald Reagan’s firing of striking air-traffic controllers as a big turning point in attitudes toward unionized labor. “That’s when you started having much more money spent on anti-labor consultants, union-busters.”
While organized labor in the private sector was steadily decomposing, it was flourishing in the public sector largely due to labor powerhouses such as the AFL-CIO and the UAW, long allied with the Democratic Party.
Those organizations succumbed to mission creep, seeking to expand their power base by promising money and votes in exchange for legislation that extended such rights to government workers: Cops, firefighters, sanitation workers and, of course, teachers, the largest and most powerful group in the organized public sector.
“Massachusetts is the best state in the nation educationally, and yet the Boston teachers contract is 225 pages in length,” Stergios says. “It states how many kids are allowed in a classroom, how many minutes before school officially starts can a teacher begin, how often is the principal allowed in the classroom — stuff that does not allow you to implement so-called best practices.”
Author Moe, too, thinks that the teachers unions have long been doing active harm, that the control they wield over nearly all of the system is unconscionable.
“Since 1980, when the teachers movement gets going, people have been saying, ‘Hey, we have to reform the schools.’ Why would they say that? Because, over the last quarter century, the teachers unions have been blocking reforms,” Moe says. “They want reforms to fail, to weaken accountability. They don’t like school choice, because it means they’ll all lose their jobs if kids leave.”
In the short term, he says, the outlook is grim, but in the long term, he sees the teachers unions busted not by government or by charter schools but technology.
“In 15 years, I think most children will be taking their classes online,” he says. “It’s a big train coming down the tracks that no one sees yet, but it will change the politics of education.”
As for the rest of the public-sector unions, they’re largely considered safe. You can’t mechanize cops or firefighters, and as for non-essential workers, the concessions won are only as substantial as state government and public opinion.
Moe doesn’t foresee a slackening of power among public-sector workers, despite the current wave of political and populist outrage. And this, he says, is not necessarily to the greater good.
“In another couple of years,” Moe says, “the storm will be over. They’ll have the same amount of members, the same power, and will do what they can to recover the ground they have lost.”
Stergios agrees. “The public sector will continue to take a lot of hits on collective bargaining,” he says. “But I don’t know if I see them dying anytime soon.”
Read more:http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinio...e_unions_vGDe6foy0BhvLsXfTtHGZO#ixzz1Xlt0AP6d
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
Union membership in the United States rose last year by the largest amount in a quarter-century, a gain of 428,000 members, theBureau of Labor Statistics announced on Wednesday.
[h=4]Related[/h][h=2]Times Topics: Organized Labor[/h]
The bureau said that most of the new members were government employees and that the percentage of workers in unions rose to 12.4 percent of the overall work force last year, up from 12.1 percent in 2007.
The increase is bound to fuel an already feverish political debate over whether to enact a labor-backed bill that would make it easier for workers to unionize. Business groups that oppose the bill can point to the new report to argue that such legislation is unnecessary because unions are already growing under current law.
:LMAO:LMAO
Union membership in the United States rose last year by the largest amount in a quarter-century, a gain of 428,000 members, theBureau of Labor Statistics announced on Wednesday.
[h=4]Related[/h][h=2]Times Topics: Organized Labor[/h]
The bureau said that most of the new members were government employees and that the percentage of workers in unions rose to 12.4 percent of the overall work force last year, up from 12.1 percent in 2007.
The increase is bound to fuel an already feverish political debate over whether to enact a labor-backed bill that would make it easier for workers to unionize. Business groups that oppose the bill can point to the new report to argue that such legislation is unnecessary because unions are already growing under current law.
:LMAO:LMAO
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[h=1]Union Membership Up in WV[/h][h=2]by: Jeremiah[/h][h=3]Sat Feb 05, 2011 at 16:50:15 PM EST[/h]
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by: JeremiahAccording to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union membership is up in West Virginia but down nationally. The Democratic Party would do well to remember one of the strongest elements of the Party's base.
In West Virginia, that means protecting workers trying to unionize, especially in our coal mines, and passing legislation to require West Virginia workers be hired for Marcellus Shale operations.
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[h=1]Auto union membership up first time in 6 years[/h]al report: Can an Italian Elvis make Fiat-Chrysler dance?
[h=3]Analysis & Opinion[/h]
DETROIT | Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:23pm EDT
(Reuters) - United Auto Workers membership rose for the first time in six years in 2010, helped by a recovering U.S. auto industry and expanding to include workers outside that industry, the UAW said in a federal filing on Thursday.
UAW membership rose 6 percent in 2010 to 376,612 members, the first rise since 2004, when UAW-represented workers totaled 654,657.
Still, membership is way down since 1979, when it hovered near 1.5 million.
"This increase is a reflection of new organizing by the UAW, the recovery of the domestic auto industry and UAW members who won a first contract during the year," said UAW President Bob King. "We hope to continue this growth in 2011 and beyond, as we fight to win a more fair and democratic process for workers to organize unions in the United States.
[h=1]Auto union membership up first time in 6 years[/h]al report: Can an Italian Elvis make Fiat-Chrysler dance?
- Fri, Mar 25 2011
- Analysis: Japan auto recovery may take monthsFri, Mar 25 2011
[h=3]Analysis & Opinion[/h]
DETROIT | Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:23pm EDT
(Reuters) - United Auto Workers membership rose for the first time in six years in 2010, helped by a recovering U.S. auto industry and expanding to include workers outside that industry, the UAW said in a federal filing on Thursday.
UAW membership rose 6 percent in 2010 to 376,612 members, the first rise since 2004, when UAW-represented workers totaled 654,657.
Still, membership is way down since 1979, when it hovered near 1.5 million.
"This increase is a reflection of new organizing by the UAW, the recovery of the domestic auto industry and UAW members who won a first contract during the year," said UAW President Bob King. "We hope to continue this growth in 2011 and beyond, as we fight to win a more fair and democratic process for workers to organize unions in the United States.
Re: Union thug on Republicans and the Tea Party: "Let's take these son of bitches out!"
What a shock! More union storm troopers with a socialist in the White House! :handjob:
What a shock! More union storm troopers with a socialist in the White House! :handjob:
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Home ? Union Membership in Massachusetts Up for Third Year in a Row
[h=1]Union Membership in Massachusetts Up for Third Year in a Row[/h]
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there was a decline of 771,000 union members nationally in 2009. However, the data released on January 22[SUP]nd[/SUP] shows Massachusetts to be one of the few areas of union growth, showing that the numbers of union-organized workers in Massachusetts rose from 15.7% in 2009 to 16.6% in 2009, an increase of nearly a full percentage point. The increase of 18,000 union workers happened in the third consecutive year in which the number of organized workers in Massachusetts increased.
“The news is good from Massachusetts, and we are grateful for the gains that organized labor has made here, but we all certainly have our work to do,” said President Haynes. “Nationally, our virtually unprecedented economic crisis has taken its toll on America’s middle class.”
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Home ? Union Membership in Massachusetts Up for Third Year in a Row
[h=1]Union Membership in Massachusetts Up for Third Year in a Row[/h]
Mass AFL-CIO President cites Massachusetts as positive contrast to national Bureau of Labor Statistics Union Membership ReportWorking families need labor movement now more than ever, says state AFL-CIO President Robert Haynes
BOSTON, MA FEBRUARY 1, 2010…Massachusetts AFL-CIO President Robert Haynes found a silver lining in the recently-released Bureau of Labor statistics, showing that Massachusetts bucked a national downward trend in 2009, and has achieved an increase in union membership in each of the last three years.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there was a decline of 771,000 union members nationally in 2009. However, the data released on January 22[SUP]nd[/SUP] shows Massachusetts to be one of the few areas of union growth, showing that the numbers of union-organized workers in Massachusetts rose from 15.7% in 2009 to 16.6% in 2009, an increase of nearly a full percentage point. The increase of 18,000 union workers happened in the third consecutive year in which the number of organized workers in Massachusetts increased.
“The news is good from Massachusetts, and we are grateful for the gains that organized labor has made here, but we all certainly have our work to do,” said President Haynes. “Nationally, our virtually unprecedented economic crisis has taken its toll on America’s middle class.”
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[h=1]State union membership up, which undercuts labor's argument that it's too hard to organize a workplace[/h][h=5]Published: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 5:40 AM[/h]
By Birmingham News editorial board
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The good news for Alabama union membership is bad news for state and national union leaders.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the number of union members in Alabama increased fairly significantly from 2008 to 2009. (See story here.) The portion of the state's work force that is in a union rose from 9.8 percent in 2008 to 10.9 percent in 2009. The same report noted union membership was stable across the nation at 12.3 percent for 2009, essentially the same as 2008.
Alabama is the only state in the Southeast with double-digit union membership. A likely reason this good news for organized labor is being greeted with such surprise is that it works against the storyline unions want Americans to believe right now.
Unions are trying to get the Democratic Congress and President Barack Obama to go along with a provision that would make it easier for them to organize a workplace. The so-called "Employee Free Choice Act" still is organized labor's No.1 priority. It's such a high priority that the AFL-CIO has dropped its longtime support for U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and is now backing her challenger, Arkansas Lt. Gov. Bill Halter, in this year's Arkansas Democratic primary.
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[h=1]State union membership up, which undercuts labor's argument that it's too hard to organize a workplace[/h][h=5]Published: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 5:40 AM[/h]
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The good news for Alabama union membership is bad news for state and national union leaders.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the number of union members in Alabama increased fairly significantly from 2008 to 2009. (See story here.) The portion of the state's work force that is in a union rose from 9.8 percent in 2008 to 10.9 percent in 2009. The same report noted union membership was stable across the nation at 12.3 percent for 2009, essentially the same as 2008.
Alabama is the only state in the Southeast with double-digit union membership. A likely reason this good news for organized labor is being greeted with such surprise is that it works against the storyline unions want Americans to believe right now.
Unions are trying to get the Democratic Congress and President Barack Obama to go along with a provision that would make it easier for them to organize a workplace. The so-called "Employee Free Choice Act" still is organized labor's No.1 priority. It's such a high priority that the AFL-CIO has dropped its longtime support for U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and is now backing her challenger, Arkansas Lt. Gov. Bill Halter, in this year's Arkansas Democratic primary.
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