Cam and Kaep

TheGuesser

EOG Dedicated
#1
Cam is gonna sign with someone(should be NE, but probably won't be at this point), and it looks lie Kaep is invited back in if he wants to play. 5 Dimes has a line up on him.
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Colin Kaepernick is present on an NFL team roster on week 1 of 20-21 season, NFL kickoff must occur in 2020 for actionThu 9/10
29501 C.Kaepernick on NFL roster week 1 2020 +145 12:00PM
29502 C.Kaepernick not on roster week 1 2020 -185

After looking at all the rosters, https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB 2 teams stick out to me as the best landing spots for both. Both are good teams that have mobile starting QB's with absolute dogshit backing them up. Buff and Tenn. Buff especially stands out as Josh Allen plays the same game as a young Cam and Kaep. Strong arm but not great accuracy, who relies on his legs. With Garbage Matt Barkley as a backup, who plays a different style, Buff promising season is cooked if Josh is out. Cam fits best there. Tenn has even worse garbage behind Tannehill, and while he was fantastic last year, he could revert to the mediocre Tannehill and it would be great to have a Cam or Kaep behind him to step in if he's hurt or reverts.
 
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Heim

EOG Master
#2
I don't think teams want the heat if they have to end up releasing him....give me not on a roster for the limit.

I still don't understand the NFL. They negotiated a big settlement with him without precluding him from re-entering
the league, thus the race headache continues......
 
#3
Cam is gonna sign with someone(should be NE, but probably won't be at this point), and it looks lie Kaep is invited back in if he wants to play. 5 Dimes has a line up on him.
NFL Propositions - Colin Kaepernick
Colin Kaepernick is present on an NFL team roster on week 1 of 20-21 season, NFL kickoff must occur in 2020 for actionThu 9/10
29501 C.Kaepernick on NFL roster week 1 2020 +145 12:00PM
29502 C.Kaepernick not on roster week 1 2020 -185

After looking at all the rosters, https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB 2 teams stick out to me as the best landing spots for both. Both are good teams that have mobile starting QB's with absolute dogshit backing them up. Buff and Tenn. Buff especially stands out as Josh Allen plays the same game as a young Cam and Kaep. Strong arm but not great accuracy, who relies on his legs. With Garbage Matt Barkley as a backup, who plays a different style, Buff promising season is cooked if Josh is out. Cam fits best there. Tenn has even worse garbage behind Tannehill, and while he was fantastic last year, he could revert to the mediocre Tannehill and it would be great to have a Cam or Kaep behind him to step in if he's hurt or reverts.


Get The White Cop To Murder The Black Guy, If You Want Your Job Back.
 
#5
Will come down to money. I don't think either of these guys wants to accept backup money considering how much they have made so far. People can compare to the Mike Vick situation but that was more about redemption, neither of these guys are seeking that. Maybe Kaep wants to prove something but if he does nothing more than hold a clipboard and get a million or two that will go down poorly. Cam I think needs a year off to heal and prepare himself for a different style of play. He can be on the outside and maybe if a team has a horrible run of injuries sign off the street, but otherwise a year off would give him a shot to take a starter job in the future.
 

TheGuesser

EOG Dedicated
#7
Now up on BetOnline:

Colin Kaepernick
Colin Kaepernick Next Team
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640103 Baltimore Ravens +200
640111 Seattle Seahawks +250
640104 Houston Texans +400
640106 Kansas City Chiefs +500
640105 Jacksonville Jaguars +750
640107 Los Angeles Chargers +800
640108 Minnesota Vikings +800
640110 Tennessee Titans +1000
640109 Philadelphia Eagles +1200

Colin Kaepernick
Will he sign with an NFL team before Week 1
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640102 No -450
640101 Yes +275
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Cam Newton team in Week 1 of 2020 Reg.Season
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16311 New England Patriots +400
16310 Washington Redskins +700
16319 Tennessee Titans +800
16340 Arizona Cardinals +900
16316 Pittsburgh Steelers +900
16320 Baltimore Ravens +1000
16314 Las Vegas Raiders +1000
16321 Los Angeles Rams +1000
16322 Seattle Seahawks +1000
16315 Denver Broncos +1200
16323 Detroit Lions +1200
16313 Jacksonville Jaguars +1200
16118 Los Angeles Chargers +1200
16324 Buffalo Bills +1600
16318 Chicago Bears +1600
16325 Atlanta Falcons +1800
16326 Minnesota Vikings +2000
16327 San Francisco 49ers +2500
16328 New York Giants +2800
16329 Tampa Bay Buccaneers +2800
16330 Houston Texans +3300
16331 Kansas City Chiefs +3300
16312 Miami Dolphins +3300
16317 Cincinnati Bengals +5000
16334 Dallas Cowboys +8000
16335 Green Bay Packers +8000
16336 Indianapolis Colts +8000
16337 New Orleans Saints +8000
16332 Carolina Panthers +10000
16333 Cleveland Browns +10000
16338 New York Jets +10000
16339 Philadelphia Eagles +12500
 
#13
Get The White Cop To Murder The Black Guy, If You Want Your Job Back.
Did you see the 3 Aurora, Co. cops murder Elijah Mclain? That wouldn't happen to a white person. 23 year old kid was walking home from the local grocery store carrying a bag of ice tea. Got jumped by 3 cops. Died within minutes. So far none of the killer cops have been held accountable. This murder was worse than the George Floyd or Eric Garner. Kid weighed all of 140lbs minding his own business. Murder took place Aug. 24, 2019. Case has been reopened.

Maybe racist Fair Warning can chime in and tell us the black kid had a record and wasn't a good person.
 
#15
Did you see the 3 Aurora, Co. cops murder Elijah Mclain? That wouldn't happen to a white person. 23 year old kid was walking home from the local grocery store carrying a bag of ice tea. Got jumped by 3 cops. Died within minutes. So far none of the killer cops have been held accountable. This murder was worse than the George Floyd or Eric Garner. Kid weighed all of 140lbs minding his own business. Murder took place Aug. 24, 2019. Case has been reopened.

Maybe racist Fair Warning can chime in and tell us the black kid had a record and wasn't a good person.
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#16
But the black guys were definitely not arrested at Starbucks.
- Dumb Alfie

Thank god Florida elected RepubliCon Ron Disastrous.
- Dumb Alfie

North Korea denuclearised because the Traitor parked an aircraft carrier off the coast of North Korea.
- Dumb Alfie

Omar married her brother.
- Dumb Alfie

All women are lesbians and I don't like them.
- Dunb Alfie

You have 4 jobs and I've been retired for 20 years.
- Dunb Alfie
 
#17
But the black guys were definitely not arrested at Starbucks.
- Dumb Alfie

Thank god Florida elected RepubliCon Ron Disastrous.
- Dumb Alfie

North Korea denuclearised because the Traitor parked an aircraft carrier off the coast of North Korea.
- Dumb Alfie

Omar married her brother.
- Dumb Alfie

All women are lesbians and I don't like them.
- Dunb Alfie

You have 4 jobs and I've been retired for 20 years.
- Dunb Alfie
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if this is all you got you're shooting blanks........you can go back to your lego set and have milk a grahams before nite, nite little boy........
 
#26
Did you see the 3 Aurora, Co. cops murder Elijah Mclain? That wouldn't happen to a white person. 23 year old kid was walking home from the local grocery store carrying a bag of ice tea. Got jumped by 3 cops. Died within minutes. So far none of the killer cops have been held accountable. This murder was worse than the George Floyd or Eric Garner. Kid weighed all of 140lbs minding his own business. Murder took place Aug. 24, 2019. Case has been reopened.

Maybe racist Fair Warning can chime in and tell us the black kid had a record and wasn't a good person.
Wrong. Normally I don't reply to anything you say because you repeat the same thing over and over but you threw a change up. Tim Timpa much worse.

 
#29
Opening week NE -6.5 taken off the board. I thought Miami was a good bet at that number with Stidam or Hoyer, even a decent ML shot. Probably come back up -7.5 or slightly higher, or they wait to see if Cam wins the job before putting it up. Still would like Miamii to cover, but no ML anymore.
 
#32
The Dolphins are very happy with how his hip has healed, one of their beat writers wrote an article last week about how Tua's hip was healing faster than they though it would. The plan is as long as he's healthy they'll give him a shot to be the starter, they don't plan on an automatic redshirt, I can't see them giving him his first start in Foxborough against Hoodie, so I expect Fitz to start and remain the starter as long as he plays well, but at some point Tua will get a start and then we'll see
 
#34
Incentives deal. How about a shrugg of the shoulders from Chase Daniel, who makes more than Cam and Jameis Winston combined?
I see it's Up to 7.5 Million. That covers alot of ground. Have you seen the guaranteed $$$? I think Jameis max is 4.5. Chase Daniel has the best agent in the history of the NFL. Has made about 34 million, and has never been anyone's possible starter.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...tons-contract-will-pay-him-up-to-7-5-million/

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/chase-daniel-7081/cash-earnings/
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
#36
You've got to give Hoodie the benefit of the doubt thought, I mean the guy's earned it, if it doesn't work out they cut ties, no risk, big reward
I will let the market do that and fade him. Newton has lost his last 8 starts, and thats with a elite RB. One thing he will do that Brady didn't is turn the ball over and put his D in bad spots. They really don't have a lot of elite weapons on offense. It's hard to believe NE was 8-0 last year and people were saying they were one of the best teams of all time. The fall can be sudden in the NFL. I was fading them with Brady this year also, its just not Cam.
 
#37
Newton's Law: Signing puts Pats' odds in motion
By Josh Appelbaum (VSiN.com)
June 29, 2020 12:17 AM

You gotta hand it to Bill Belichick and the Patriots. Even with Tom Brady no longer in the fold, New England continues to shock, surprise and dominate NFL headlines.
Late Sunday evening, ESPN's Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen reported that the Patriots signed the biggest remaining fish on the free-agent market: former Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton. It's an incentive-laden 1-year deal for the bare minimum. If Newton reaches all of his incentives, the contract will be worth $7.5 million.
Newton, 31, has a star-studded resume. He won the Heisman Trophy in 2010 at Auburn, was drafted first overall by the Panthers in 2011, went to three Pro Bowls and won the MVP award in 2015 when he led Carolina to a 15-1 record and a Super Bowl appearance. In his career, Newton has thrown for 29,041 yards, 182 passing touchdowns (plus 58 rushing touchdowns) for a quarterback rating of 86.1.
However, Newton was limited to just two games this past season due to a foot injury. He was released by Carolina in late March. Newton has since passed a physical and is now healthy. In recent weeks, he has posted impressive workout videos and conducted throwing sessions with Odell Beckham Jr.
In many ways, the signing of Newton is a classic low-risk, high-reward Belichick move. Instead of spending big money on a free agent to replace Brady, Belichick waited out the market and bought low on a depreciated asset for pennies on the dollar. Newton falls in the category of a highly talented reclamation project with something to prove and a massive chip on his shoulder, similar to Randy Moss or Corey Dillon in years past.
A source told Schefter that Newton is "hungrier than ever and eager for the next opportunity." Newton posted on Instagram "I'm excited as I don't know what right now" with the hashtag "Let's go Pats."
Newton will now compete with 2nd-year pro Jarrett Stidham and 11-year veteran Brian Hoyer for the starting job. A week ago, Stidham was a -330 favorite to start for the Pats Week 1 at DraftKings, with Hoyer + 300 and Newton + 850. That prop is now off the board.
With Newton taking his talents to Foxboro, sportsbooks quickly adjusted Patriots futures in a positive fashion.
At Caesars, New England moved from + 2500 to + 2000 to win the Super Bowl and + 1000 to + 900 to win the AFC.
Prior to signing Newton, the Pats and Bills were co-favorites to win the AFC East at + 120 at FanDuel. New England is now the sole favorite at + 105, with Buffalo dipping to + 160. Both teams were + 2300 to win the Super Bowl. But now the Pats are + 1700 and the Bills have fallen to + 3200.
The Patriots' odds to make the playoffs improved from -180 to -230.
Before adding Newton, the Patriots 2020 win total was either 8.5 or 9 depending on the sportsbook. With Newton now in the mix, FanDuel immediately adjusted the Pats' win total up from 9 to 9.5 (over -120).
While some may be shocked by the signing, Newton was actually favored to land with the Pats for much of the offseason, most recently at roughly + 400 odds. Someone must have known something because in late April. Newton randomly jumped from + 400 to -190 to sign with New England before settling back in the + 400 range.
After joining New England, Newton's MVP odds moved from + 6500 to + 3500.
If Newton resurrects his career and leaves New England after just one season, the Patriots could recoup a compensatory draft pick in return. That pick could come in handy after the NFL handed down the Patriots their long awaited punishment for illegally videotaping a Bengals-Browns game in December of 2019.
Buried amidst the signing of Newton, the NFL announced on Sunday that the Patriots would be docked a third-round pick for taping the Bengals' sideline, along with a $1.1 million fine. The Pats' television crews are also barred from filming games in 2020.
 
#38
Did you see the 3 Aurora, Co. cops murder Elijah Mclain? That wouldn't happen to a white person. 23 year old kid was walking home from the local grocery store carrying a bag of ice tea. Got jumped by 3 cops. Died within minutes. So far none of the killer cops have been held accountable. This murder was worse than the George Floyd or Eric Garner. Kid weighed all of 140lbs minding his own business. Murder took place Aug. 24, 2019. Case has been reopened.

Maybe racist Fair Warning can chime in and tell us the black kid had a record and wasn't a good person.


Do You See Just How Much Black Lives Really Do Matter.


https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/18-dead-47-wounded-in-chicago-weekend-shootings
 
#39
I think in a cap league, you have to play him early. That seems to be the blueprint these days.
The thing is there's only going to be 2 pre-season games and those might get cancelled, so Tua won't have the usual amount of games for him to show what he can do, normally he would have 4 pre-season games, not the case this year, plus who knows what type of practices they'll be able to hold. If this was a normal offseason I would tend to agree with you, but Tua just wont have enough games or practices to show what he's got. You could be right, if the Fins coaches feel like he's ready, he could start, but going with Fitz seems like the logical decision and giving Tua his chance at some point during the season
 
#40
I will let the market do that and fade him. Newton has lost his last 8 starts, and thats with a elite RB. One thing he will do that Brady didn't is turn the ball over and put his D in bad spots. They really don't have a lot of elite weapons on offense. It's hard to believe NE was 8-0 last year and people were saying they were one of the best teams of all time. The fall can be sudden in the NFL. I was fading them with Brady this year also, its just not Cam.
I don't know how healthy he was in those starts. We'll see how he plays this year, to me it's all about risk/reward, the risk is very low, the reward is potentially high
 
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