Circa Invitational 2024

[ComptrBob]

Week 15 going into the late CFB game:

W/L/T 8-10-0, BB 1-4-0, pending 9 CFB, 64 NFL.

Eliminations are going to be close. McMurphy and Castillo tied for last two places.

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 15 going into the AM NFL games:

W/L/T 9-10-0, BB 2-4-0, pending 8 CFB, 64 NFL.

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 15 going into the SNF game:

W/L/T 37-34-2, BB 5-5-0, pending 8 CFB, 10 NFL.

McMurphy eliminated. Kezirian and Castillo competing for survival.

Standings
Capper Total Pending Pend BB 0.5 Max Possible
Chuck Edel 66.0 3 0.0 69.0
Alex White 63.5 1 0.0 64.5
Chris Fallica 61.0 1 0.0 62.0

Chris Macero 60.0 1 0.0 61.0
Paul Bovi 59.5 1 0.5 61.0
Pete Wilder 59.5 1 0.0 60.5
Weston Stradtman 58.5 3 0.5 62.0
Scott Pritchard 57.5 2 0.5 60.0

Chris Piper 56.5 1 0.0 57.5
James Salinas 56.5 0 0.0 56.5

Doug Kezirian 55.5 1 0.0 56.5
Vinny Castillo 54.5 2 0.0 56.5

Brett McMurphy 51.0 1 0.0 52.0

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 15 going into the 2 MNF games:

W/L/T 40-35-2, BB 5-5-0, pending 8 CFB, 6 NFL.

Kezirian and Castillo each with 55.5 pts. With the worst BB record, Castillo needs a win or a push and a Kezirian loss to avoid elimination.

 

[Sportsrmylife]

Week 15 going into the SNF game:

W/L/T 37-34-2, BB 5-5-0, pending 8 CFB, 10 NFL.

McMurphy eliminated. Kezirian and Castillo competing for survival.

Standings
Capper Total Pending Pend BB 0.5 Max Possible
Chuck Edel 66.0 3 0.0 69.0
Alex White 63.5 1 0.0 64.5
Chris Fallica 61.0 1 0.0 62.0

Chris Macero 60.0 1 0.0 61.0
Paul Bovi 59.5 1 0.5 61.0
Pete Wilder 59.5 1 0.0 60.5
Weston Stradtman 58.5 3 0.5 62.0
Scott Pritchard 57.5 2 0.5 60.0

Chris Piper 56.5 1 0.0 57.5
James Salinas 56.5 0 0.0 56.5

Doug Kezirian 55.5 1 0.0 56.5
Vinny Castillo 54.5 2 0.0 56.5

Brett McMurphy 51.0 1 0.0 52.0

Wow look at alex white!
I enjoy her daily pod.
Very good worker
A better capper than her old man kenny

 

[ComptrBob]

Back in the day, Kenny won the first two Stardust Invitational contests.

 

[railbird]

kenny was a good handicapper so is bovi. i dont even need to look at records i look what they have to say and can tell. i listen to fez and its 2nd hand smoke.

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 15 going into the remaining CFB games, Note bottom three will be eliminated next week:

W/L/T 43-38-2, BB 6-5-0, pending 8 CFB.

Bottom 4:
James Salinas 56.5 0 0.0 56.5
Vinny Castillo 56.5 0 0.0 56.5
Doug Kezirian 55.5 1 0.0 56.5, Pending; Memphis/WVU OVER 59

Eliminated:
Brett McMurphy 51.0 1 0.0 52.0, Pending; Memphis -4.5 Vs. WVU

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 15 going into the Wednesday CFB games:

W/L/T 45-38-2, BB 6-5-0, pending 6 CFB.

Bottom 3 for Week 16:
Chris Piper 57.5 0 0.0 57.5
James Salinas 56.5 0 0.0 56.5
Doug Kezirian 56.5 0 0.0 56.5

Eliminated:
Vinny Castillo 56.5 0 0.0 56.5
Brett McMurphy 52.0 1 0.0 52.0

 

[ComptrBob]

Update: Week 15 Final (3 will be eliminated next week):

W/L/T 51-38-2, BB 8-5-0.

Capper Total Pending Pend BB 0.5 Max Possible
Chuck Edel 69.0 0 0.0 69.0, In the Final 8
Alex White 63.5 0 0.0 63.5, Realistically in the Final 8
Chris Fallica 61.0 0 0.0 61.0
Paul Bovi 61.0 0 0.0 61.0
Weston Stradtman 61.0 0 0.0 61.0

Pete Wilder 60.5 0 0.0 60.5
Chris Macero 60.0 0 0.0 60.0
Scott Pritchard 60.0 0 0.0 60.0

Chris Piper 57.5 0 0.0 57.5
Doug Kezirian 56.5 0 0.0 56.5
James Salinas 56.5 0 0.0 56.5

Eliminated:
Vinny Castillo 56.5 0 0.0 56.5
Brett McMurphy 52.0 0 0.0 52.0

 

[pbovi]

Update: Week 15 Final (3 will be eliminated next week):

W/L/T 51-38-2, BB 8-5-0.

Capper Total Pending Pend BB 0.5 Max Possible
Chuck Edel 69.0 0 0.0 69.0, In the Final 8
Alex White 63.5 0 0.0 63.5, Realistically in the Final 8
Chris Fallica 61.0 0 0.0 61.0
Paul Bovi 61.0 0 0.0 61.0
Weston Stradtman 61.0 0 0.0 61.0

Pete Wilder 60.5 0 0.0 60.5
Chris Macero 60.0 0 0.0 60.0
Scott Pritchard 60.0 0 0.0 60.0

Chris Piper 57.5 0 0.0 57.5
Doug Kezirian 56.5 0 0.0 56.5
James Salinas 56.5 0 0.0 56.5

Eliminated:
Vinny Castillo 56.5 0 0.0 56.5
Brett McMurphy 52.0 0 0.0 52.0

Not that it means anything at this point, but I am ahead of The Bear due to an 11-4 best bet record including 11 of the last 13. I ll probably drop but will just enjoy the moment after a 3-10-1, 6-14 start....and I do play my best bets.

 

[pbovi]

Not that it means anything at this point, but I am ahead of The Bear due to an 11-4 best bet record including 11 of the last 13. I ll probably drop but will just enjoy the moment after a 3-10-1, 6-14 start....and I do play my best bets.

 

[ComptrBob]

Not that it means anything at this point, but I am ahead of The Bear due to an 11-4 best bet record including 11 of the last 13. I ll probably drop but will just enjoy the moment after a 3-10-1, 6-14 start....and I do play my best bets.

No, you're in a 3-way tie with 61 pts. I don't use BB record as a tiebreaker unless its meaningful for the next week.

 

[pbovi]

No, you're in a 3-way tie with 61 pts. I don't use BB record as a tiebreaker unless its meaningful for the next week.

Got it. VSIN uses BBs as the tiebreaker which I why I am listed above him but you have your way. Fair enough

 

[ComptrBob]

Got it. VSIN uses BBs as the tiebreaker which I why I am listed above him but you have your way. Fair enough

Well, again, no, VSIN doesn't appear to use BB record in their listing.

Three ties are listed in order by BB, but in reverse order in 2 ties. If they use BB win%, Kelly Stewart would be listed above Fezzik in the tie for 14th place and Marc Lawrence (46.5 pts, BB 8-4-0) would be listed above Randy Mckay (46.5 pts, BB 7-5-1), tied for 16th place. Both Fezzik and McKay had far worse ROI's than the tying entrants. Note 4 are ordered alphabetically, but not in one case.

Seems either random order, just inconsistent, or they use # of BB and then BB win% (thereby "penalizing" Stewart and Lawrence). Only VSIN seems to know for sure ... lol.

 

[pbovi]

Well, again, no, VSIN doesn't appear to use BB record in their listing.

Three ties are listed in order by BB, but in reverse order in 2 ties. If they use BB win%, Kelly Stewart would be listed above Fezzik in the tie for 14th place and Marc Lawrence (46.5 pts, BB 8-4-0) would be listed above Randy Mckay (46.5 pts, BB 7-5-1), tied for 16th place. Both Fezzik and McKay had far worse ROI's than the tying entrants. Note 4 are ordered alphabetically, but not in one case.

Seems either random order, just inconsistent, or they use # of BB and then BB win% (thereby "penalizing" Stewart and Lawrence). Only VSIN seems to know for sure ... lol.

If you watch the show, you'd know that ties are broken by Best Bet record as it has been repeated often. Though I was not involved, I believe that settled a deadlock last year. Stewart and Lawrence both missed a week, though we will never know how many additional points there would have had. Not about percentage.

 

[ComptrBob]

If you watch the show, you'd know that ties are broken by Best Bet record as it has been repeated often. Though I was not involved, I believe that settled a deadlock last year. Stewart and Lawrence both missed a week, though we will never know how many additional points there would have had. Not about percentage.

Well we aren't discussing what they say on the show. I have heard the "ties are broken by BB" spiel. I have never heard how they measure the BB record.

The website doesn't order records with ties using the BB record as I pointed out above. Again, how do they measure BB record other than #wins or win%?

Either way Stewart and Lawrence have better BB records even missing a week.

 

[pbovi]

Obviously, they don't order records with ties using the BB record as I pointed out above. BTW how do you measure BB record other than #wins or win%?

Either way Stewart and Lawrence have better BB records even missing a week.

How much money you got Bob? I'll give you 5/1 on whatever you want that Best Bet record breaks ties. How about this? Those people are out of the money and eliminated so whoever posted it doesn't give a shit. Let me know how much you want to risk. Make it 7/1

 

[ComptrBob]

How much money you got Bob? I'll give you 5/1 on whatever you want that Best Bet record breaks ties. How about this? Those people are out of the money and eliminated so whoever posted it doesn't give a shit. Let me know how much you want to risk. Make it 7/1

Don't deflect. What is their measure of Best Bet record?

 

[pbovi]

Don't deflect. What is their measure of Best Bet record?

Deflecting? All I know is I tried to correct you because you did not recognize that my BB record was better than that of the Bear thus that it why I was listed in front of him as that is their way of breaking ties. You apparently don't accept my explanation and want to get into irrelevant technicalities. Have no time. If you want the bet let me know.

 

[ComptrBob]

Deflecting? All I know is I tried to correct you because you did not recognize that my BB record was better than that of the Bear thus that it why I was listed in front of him as that is their way of breaking ties. You apparently don't accept my explanation and want to get into irrelevant technicalities. Have no time. If you want the bet let me know.

Ok, I understand you can't even answer what the measure of the BB is.

No problem. Why would I bet you if you can't even define what a superior "BB record" is. You're a moron.

 

[ComptrBob]

Kind of reminiscent of how broken the original Stardust Invitational was. It used the winning percentage ignoring ties to determine winners, The BB for the week was the tiebreaker.

Of course, it never happened (& occur very rarely), but a 3-0-4 record would beat a 6-1-0 record.

 

[pbovi]

Ok, I understand you can't even answer what the measure of the BB is.

No problem. Why would I bet you if you can't even define what a superior "BB record" is. You're a moron.

You don't want to put your ego aside. You have to be right and justify putting the Bear front of me despite their listing me above him. Moron? Do you fucken not understand that 11-4 is better than 8-6-1 and according to their rules Best Bets break ties. I am not here to get into minutia. If you have nothing else to do feel free to contact VSIN. My offer stands 7/1 for whatever you wish. Fucken idiot

 

[pbovi]

You don't want to put your ego aside. You have to be right and justify putting the Bear front of me despite their listing me above him. Moron? Do you fucken not understand that 11-4 is better than 8-6-1 and according to their rules Best Bets break ties. I am not here to get into minutia. If you have nothing else to do feel free to contact VSIN. My offer stands 7/1 for whatever you wish. Fucken idiot

Contest plays

- Seven plays, college and NFL full-game sides and totals (no props, team totals or first-half plays) with one designated as the Best Bet (BB). Contestants are limited to four college football totals per week.

- Plays will be graded as one point for a win - a Best Bet winner is worth 1.5 points - and a half-point for a push. If a game is canceled or postponed, it's graded to be worth a half-point; a postponed game must be played by the following Thursday or is graded to be worth a half-point.

- The Best Bet (BB) point total will be used as a tiebreaker if needed.

- Use the Circa Sports lines posted at Noon PT Fridays. All contestants are using the same lines. Any contestant failing to designate a Best Bet will get a zero for the Best Bet record that week.

- Seven plays must be submitted no later than 5 p.m. PT each Friday; any contestant who misses the deadline gets zero points for the week.

 

[ComptrBob]

This says nothing about listing order. This whole discussion is strictly about listing order, are you too stupid to understand that?

As I continue to point out, clearly VSIN does list according to the BB win total.

Stewart 8-5-0 has a better BB point total than Fezzik 7-7-0.
Lawrence 8-4-0 has a better BB point total than McKay 7-5-1.

 

[pbovi]

"Those people are out of the money and eliminated so whoever posted it doesn't give a shit. Let me know how much you want to risk. Make it 7/1'. This was written to you way before. Ego is a big problem in life for some as they continue to try to be right, even though in this case the original post concerned only your putting me out of position, while I have posted a copy of their rules. So what is correct....their own rules or what some person put up there for 2 people not caring because at this point they irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Ego....let it go bro.

 

[ComptrBob]

The contest ends when you are eliminated or on the final week. The only tiebreaks that matter now are with people who are out of the money. So apparently VSIN screws up the only ones that currently matter.

 

[ComptrBob]

Going into Week 16:

Pick distribution: CFB 33, NFL 44. Date: Sat 32, Sun 35, Mon 6, Tues 1, Wed 0, Thurs 3.

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 going into the PM Saturday games:

W/L/T 6-7-0, BB 2-1-0, pending 23 CFB, 41 NFL.

Piper 2-2, in dire need of some PM wins to survive.

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 going into the evening Saturday game:

W/L/T 14-13-0, BB 3-2-0, pending 13 CFB, 37 NFL.

Piper 4-2, 62.0 pts so far may be able to survive. Wilder 0-3, 60.5 pts in jeopardy.

 

[dogball]

why is Fezzik proud and advertising that he gives out -510 on Texas? What happened to this guy

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 going into the Sunday AM NFL games:

W/L/T 18-14-0, BB 5-2-0, pending 8 CFB, 37 NFL.

Bottom 6:
Capper Total Pending Pend BB 0.5 Max Possible
Pete Wilder 62.0 3 0.0 65.0
Scott Pritchard 61.0 6 0.5 67.5
Chris Macero 61.0 5 0.5 66.5

Chris Piper 62.0 0 0.0 62.0 Needs someone above to tank.
Doug Kezirian 58.0 5 0.0 63.0 Needs a great run and someone above to tank.
James Salinas 56.5 6 0.0 62.5 Needs a great run and someone above to tank.

 

[Jammer]

CFB - Sat, Dec 21 at 8:00 PM ET - Tennessee at Ohio ST
Matt Youmans : Tennessee (+7.5) at Ohio ST
Mitch Moss : Tennessee (+7.5) at Ohio ST
Jonathan Von Tobel : Tennessee (+8) at Ohio ST
Jonathan Von Tobel : Tennessee at Ohio ST - UNDER (47)
Paul Stone : Tennessee at Ohio ST - UNDER (47.5)
Pauly Howard : Tennessee (+7.5) at Ohio ST
Tim Murray : Team Total - Tennessee - UNDER (19.5) (-115)
Tim Murray : Tennessee at Ohio ST - UNDER (47)
Will Hill : Tennessee (+7.5) at Ohio ST
Chris Fallica : Tennessee at Ohio ST - UNDER (47.5)
Dustin Swedelson : Ohio ST (-7.5) vs Tennessee
Grace Remington : Tennessee at Ohio ST - UNDER (47.5)
Josh Fisher : Tennessee (+7.5) at Ohio ST
Josh Fisher : Tennessee at Ohio ST - UNDER (47)
Joe DeLeone : Tennessee (+7.5) at Ohio ST
Cierra Clark : Tennessee (+7.5) at Ohio ST

Well at least there was 1 winner in the bunch!

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 going into the Sunday PM NFL games:

W/L/T 29-22-0, BB 7-2-0, pending 8 CFB, 18 NFL.

Bottom 6:
Capper Total Pending Pend BB 0.5 Max Possible
Scott Pritchard 64.5 2 0.0 66.5 Safe
Chris Macero 64.5 2 0.5 66.5 Safe
Pete Wilder 62.0 3 0.0 65.0

Chris Piper 62.0 0 0.0 62.0 Eliminated.
Doug Kezirian 58.0 5 0.0 63.0 Needs a great run and someone above to tank.
James Salinas 58.5 4 0.0 62.5 Needs a great run and someone above to tank.

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 going into the Sunday Night game:

W/L/T 32-29-4, BB 7-2-0, pending 8 CFB, 4 NFL.

Doug Kezirian 59.0 4 0.0 63.0 (Avoids elimination if he goes 4-0 and Wilder (62.5 pts) loses his 1 pending bet.)

Eliminated:
Chris Piper 62.0 0 0.0 62.0
James Salinas 60.0 1 0.0 61.0

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 going into the Monday games:

W/L/T 33-30-4, BB 8-2-0, pending 8 CFB, 2 NFL.

Capper Total Pending Pend BB 0.5 Max Possible
Chuck Edel 73.5 2 0.0 75.5
Alex White 68.5 0 0.0 68.5
Weston Stradtman 65.0 0 0.0 65.0

Chris Macero 64.5 0 0.0 64.5
Chris Fallica 64.0 1 0.0 65.0
Scott Pritchard 63.5 0 0.0 63.5
Paul Bovi 63.0 1 0.5 64.5

Pete Wilder 62.5 1 0.0 63.5

Chris Piper 62.0 0 0.0 62.0 Eliminated
James Salinas 60.0 1 0.0 61.0 Eliminated
Doug Kezirian 59.0 4 0.0 63.0 Avoids elimination if he goes 4-0 and Wilder loses his 1 pending bet. Needs Coastal Carolina +10 and OVER 56 to stay alive. He can't tie Bovi at 63.0 pts because of a common pick.

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 going into the MNF game:

W/L/T 36-31-4, BB 8-2-0, pending 4 CFB, 2 NFL.

Capper Total Pending Pend BB 0.5 Max Possible
Chuck Edel 74.5 1 0.0 75.5
Alex White 68.5 0 0.0 68.5
Weston Stradtman 65.0 0 0.0 65.0
Chris Fallica 65.0 0 0.0 65.0

Chris Macero 64.5 0 0.0 64.5
Scott Pritchard 63.5 0 0.0 63.5
Pete Wilder 63.5 0 0.0 63.5
Paul Bovi 63.0 1 0.5 64.5

Chris Piper 62.0 0 0.0 62.0 Eliminated
Doug Kezirian 60.0 3 0.0 63.0 Eliminated
James Salinas 60.0 1 0.0 61.0 Eliminated

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 going into the Tuesday CFB game:

W/L/T 38-31-4, BB 8-2-0, pending 4 CFB.

 

[ComptrBob]

Week 16 final (no more eliminations):

W/L/T 40-33-4, BB 8-3-0.

Capper Total
Chuck Edel 75.5
Alex White 68.5
Weston Stradtman 65.0

Chris Macero 64.5
Chris Fallica 64.0
Pete Wilder 63.5
Scott Pritchard 63.5
Paul Bovi 63.0

Eliminated
Chris Piper 62.0
Doug Kezirian 62.0
James Salinas 61.0
Vinny Castillo 56.5
Brett McMurphy 52.0
Kelly Stewart 48.5
Steve Fezzik 48.5
Marc Lawrence 46.5
Randy McKay 46.5
Cris Zeniuk 42.5
John Accorsi 41.5
Tony Gordon 36.5
Rob Brandt 34.5
Jason Jarvis 32.0
Jeff Petch 31.5
Matt Ste. Marie 27.5
Sean Higgs 25.0

 

[ComptrBob]

Going into Week 17, (8 contestants):

Pick distribution: CFB 34, NFL 22. Picks by date: Sat 17, Sun 15, Mon 2, Tues 9, Wed 12, Thurs 1.