Jimmy Butler unstoppable in the second half
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mr merlin
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She's the daughter or maybe grandaughter of Peter Navarro right?
kane
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Dell, this article explains things in great detail, it's long, but worth your time, there are some things in this story I never knew about, things that never became public, if you read the entire thing I think you'll change your mind about who's to blame for the Heat/Butler fallout, the guy has been acting like a diva ever since he got here, demanding special treatment, the Heat did a great job of keeping a lot of the stuff quiet, which in today's social media age is hard to do. After reading this, he has to go now, I think him remaining with the team will create dissension in the locker room, he'll be a cancer to the team, If I were running things, I'd pay him to stay home and not rejoin the team. The Heat are a no drama Obama organization, and Butler brings a whole lot of it with him, they've already moved forward, this is now Herro and Bam's team, they don't need a player on the floor who doesn't want to be there. I can't wait for tonight's game, assuming he plays, I'll focus all of my attention on him to see if he plays hard or seems disengaged, but I think him on the team will create a distraction they don't want or need
kane
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'Jimmy hasn't even really started': Inside the simmering feud between Butler and the Miami Heat
The clash pits perhaps the NBA's most disgruntled superstar against a franchise that won't bend to his will. And everyone in the NBA is watching.
www.espn.com
Dell Dude
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Maybe I'll read it or maybe I won't. Maybe it's true or maybe it's True Lies. I am not going to go political but often times stories are fed to *friendly journalists usually anonymously or off the record and that usually correlates to bullshit.
mr merlin
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pretty sad stuff, they need to play him and at the slightest sign of attitude suspend him again.'Jimmy hasn't even really started': Inside the simmering feud between Butler and the Miami Heat
The clash pits perhaps the NBA's most disgruntled superstar against a franchise that won't bend to his will. And everyone in the NBA is watching.
That meant letting Butler, who was 30 at the time, color outside the lines that had long defined "Heat Culture." They hired his trainer, Armando Rivas, onto the staff -- a common practice for other superstars on other teams but not for the Heat. He skipped team Christmas parties and trolled the NBA media with eclectic hair styles at media days. He was allowed to fly privately or stay at a different location than the team on road trips. During the 2023 Finals, sources said, he stayed some 30 miles away at a mansion in Boulder, Colorado, while the team stayed in downtown Denver.
"That is not common at all," one Western Conference GM said. "A superstar might stay at a different hotel but not at a mansion 30 miles away."
Butler did little to hide his unusual arrangement -- even posting photos from a Van Leeuwen ice cream shop in Boulder to his ever-buzzing Instagram account during the Finals.
"He's always going to see how far he can push you," a close friend of Butler's said. "But he wants you to push him back. If you don't stand up to it, he doesn't respect you."
The push began in the first half of a Dec. 20 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Butler went to the locker room because of a sprained ankle but left the arena because he reported to the team's medical staff that he was feeling sick. He didn't play the next night in Orlando. Or on Dec. 23 at home against Brooklyn. Or Dec. 26 back in Orlando.
Some team officials began to regard Butler as somewhat AWOL, sources said. Butler's side contends he was communicating his status through his agent, Bernie Lee, and training staff.
The tensions heightened as Butler's social media activity picked up. On the 26th, while the team was playing in Orlando and he was officially listed as out because of illness, Butler posted a video of him playing soccer with former Manchester United star Paul Pogba, both looking healthy and spry. A source close to Butler said the video was shot on a different day than it was posted.
Three days later, while the team was on the road in Houston and he was officially listed as "reconditioning," he posted a video of himself playing dominoes in the team locker room with Lee.
Each post was seen by team officials as an affront, an attempt to make the situation more uncomfortable, sources said.
kane
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If you read it, you'll realize this isn't correct, but it's up to you, you can understand what happened, or stay grounded in your position without knowing all the facts, this article tells it like it is
kane
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While Heat sources say they expect Butler to return Friday against the Nuggets and are fully prepared for him to play, there remains a palpable dread at what he might do and the environment the ongoing chaos might create. "I don't know how he can come back to this locker room," one source close to the team said. Another said, "We don't want him back."
kane
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The thing you have to remember is, you can't pay attention to what his teammates say publicly, of course they'll say all the right things, in the locker room I think the feeling will be different, no matter who you think is to blame, Butler quit on his team, flat out quit, players aren't going to forget that, if he was humble and apologetic perhaps things could be forgotten and start new, but that isn't who he is, he doesn't think he's done anything wrong, and that's what his attitude will be, my best guess is he won't be welcomed back in the locker room initially, he'll have to earn the trust and respect of his teammates back, if he shows up every night, accepts his role and plays hard, things could work out, if not, things will be a mess
kane
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He played okay, his numbers were decent, but there was no fire, no emotion, he looked like a player just going through the motions, at this point he'll do just enough to keep getting paid and not suspended
kane
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Not Butler's fault, the Heat were in a terrible spot, first game at home coming off a long West Coast trip, going against a good team off a blowout loss, throw in the drama surrounding Butler, and the Nuggets were an easy play on tonight
kane
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Didn't notice that, like I said his numbers look good, and he played well for a guy who hadn't been playing the last two weeks, but something was missing, he never showed any emotion, but he didn't dog it, he seemed engaged on the court, If there was anything between him and Spo I'm sure the internet will post some clip
