NOW TELL ME FOOTBALL ISN'T FIXED
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Digee, Your not deaf and blind are you. Are you ready, With 1:50 CJ caught a pass and went out of bounds right before the first down marker. No measurement, march down the field with dump off passes using all the time. Now, pay attenion. With 40 seconds left you need 9 PIONTS. I have watched so many games and they all kick the field goal. Why did the kicker come on the field? They score a touchdown ( 7 POINTS NOT 9 POINTS ) with no time left. I guess some of you guys will be up waiting for a guy in a red suite in two weeks.
Digee, Your not deaf and blind are you. Are you ready, With 1:50 CJ caught a pass and went out of bounds right before the first down marker. No measurement, march down the field with dump off passes using all the time. Now, pay attenion. With 40 seconds left you need 9 PIONTS. I have watched so many games and they all kick the field goal. Why did the kicker come on the field? They score a touchdown ( 7 POINTS NOT 9 POINTS ) with no time left. I guess some of you guys will be up waiting for a guy in a red suite in two weeks.
cheapseats
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I have no idea, but I will give you this, not one person on this site could of handicapped the game in the manner that is played out.
I have no idea, but I will give you this, not one person on this site could of handicapped the game in the manner that is played out.
Just Win Baby
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if Jeff Fisher wanted to win he would of kicked a field goal cant believe I just lost that game now I need a new microwave and window because I broke them
if Jeff Fisher wanted to win he would of kicked a field goal cant believe I just lost that game now I need a new microwave and window because I broke them
cheapseats
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:LMAO.cant eat and cant see to eat.............:LMAO
:LMAO.cant eat and cant see to eat.............:LMAO
carolinakid
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nfl these days is just like the cfl a total crap shoot............ and yes i hate this damn league the way it is.so over-rated......ck
nfl these days is just like the cfl a total crap shoot............ and yes i hate this damn league the way it is.so over-rated......ck
brians
EOG Dedicated
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Not Fixed argument: How many coaches actually kick the field goal before 4th down in that situation though? At the 20 with 0:32 left, I think they have a better shot to get the TD there than at their own 40 with 0:25 left (and that's assuming they hit the FG & recover the onsides kick). If it was 4th down then it's a no brainer - take the 3 points and try the onsides. But by the time they had a 4th down there was only 0:04 left and time for one play ... at the point what the hell, get the TD.
Fixed argument: This struck me as weird too. CJ clearly seemed to be a yard short and he didn't even stick the ball out like a lot of guys do. Next thing I know they are snapping the ball and it's 1st & 10. Originally I thought that penalty on Britt for illegal touching was gonna be PI ... when I saw the flag come out I couldn't believe it.
Not Fixed argument: How many coaches actually kick the field goal before 4th down in that situation though? At the 20 with 0:32 left, I think they have a better shot to get the TD there than at their own 40 with 0:25 left (and that's assuming they hit the FG & recover the onsides kick). If it was 4th down then it's a no brainer - take the 3 points and try the onsides. But by the time they had a 4th down there was only 0:04 left and time for one play ... at the point what the hell, get the TD.
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Here is a great quastion? With four seconds left why not take a knee? They cound not win, total points didn't matter, they are not making the playoffs. How many games end with teams kneeling at the 5 yard line. One more thing, did you see MANNING on the sidelines whispering and laughing when they kick the extra point.
Here is a great quastion? With four seconds left why not take a knee? They cound not win, total points didn't matter, they are not making the playoffs. How many games end with teams kneeling at the 5 yard line. One more thing, did you see MANNING on the sidelines whispering and laughing when they kick the extra point.
ArchieBunker
EOG Dedicated
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Why is it always the people that lose a game that think the NFL is fixed? How many games end with a team that's behind kneeling on the ball when they're 4 yds from a td? Not many.
Why is it always the people that lose a game that think the NFL is fixed? How many games end with a team that's behind kneeling on the ball when they're 4 yds from a td? Not many.
munson15
I want winners...
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Coaches never kick the FG in that spot although it's the proper strategy. Why? I can't tell you, but time management and game strategy are not strongsuits in the NFL or any league. That said, I doubt someone yelled into Fisher's headset "the spread is 3-1/2" when he pulled the kicker off the field.
Coaches never kick the FG in that spot although it's the proper strategy. Why? I can't tell you, but time management and game strategy are not strongsuits in the NFL or any league. That said, I doubt someone yelled into Fisher's headset "the spread is 3-1/2" when he pulled the kicker off the field.
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Get a life people. All of you losers wagered on the WRONG team. Plain and simple. Stop making excuses for your poor wagers like some of you guys always do. If you are dumb enough to make a wager thinking that the NFL is fixing games, you deserve to get your tails kicked. If you honestly believe that, you have a major problem. The fact is this. Tennessee had a shot at winning the game. It is easier to score a T.D. and kick a FG after an onside kick than the other way around. That is why they went for the TD. A three year old knows this. Stop acting like that amateurs that you are.
Get a life people. All of you losers wagered on the WRONG team. Plain and simple. Stop making excuses for your poor wagers like some of you guys always do. If you are dumb enough to make a wager thinking that the NFL is fixing games, you deserve to get your tails kicked. If you honestly believe that, you have a major problem. The fact is this. Tennessee had a shot at winning the game. It is easier to score a T.D. and kick a FG after an onside kick than the other way around. That is why they went for the TD. A three year old knows this. Stop acting like that amateurs that you are.
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...the nfl get werse then put put golfing....it kik my ass more than cfb, mlb, coLLEGe roundball and nba yr after yr after yr imo...................lol...................bm
...the nfl get werse then put put golfing....it kik my ass more than cfb, mlb, coLLEGe roundball and nba yr after yr after yr imo...................lol...................bm
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Did some of you clowns watch the game. I don't gamble anymore. So I didn't care who won. But after the colts kicked the field goal, you knew what was going to happen. Munson, they do kick field goals, when down by 9 or ten. Hey loser JUNKY, you can't win a game when the CLOCK SAYS 00. Where did you go JUNKY? I missed your middles. What spread did you get for the Auburn game. LET me guess Auburn came out plus 5 in a casino in FairYland. You are a ASSCLOWN, stay away. Games are fixed, Go watch the PITTS AND SAN DIEGO GAME.
Did some of you clowns watch the game. I don't gamble anymore. So I didn't care who won. But after the colts kicked the field goal, you knew what was going to happen. Munson, they do kick field goals, when down by 9 or ten. Hey loser JUNKY, you can't win a game when the CLOCK SAYS 00. Where did you go JUNKY? I missed your middles. What spread did you get for the Auburn game. LET me guess Auburn came out plus 5 in a casino in FairYland. You are a ASSCLOWN, stay away. Games are fixed, Go watch the PITTS AND SAN DIEGO GAME.
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Why not just bet the right side of the fix? Pretty simple really.
Why not just bet the right side of the fix? Pretty simple really.
WeinketoWarrick
EOG Master
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I think the NFL product sucks and don't trust any teams so I no longer wager more than $25/game on it. I just try to hit middles, scalp, and get thru rollover with it.
I think the NFL product sucks and don't trust any teams so I no longer wager more than $25/game on it. I just try to hit middles, scalp, and get thru rollover with it.
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If you bet Indy you were on the wrong side. I dont even get where you are coming from. If Im reading this right you would have been OK losing if the Titans kicked the feild goal, recovered the onside kick and threw hail mary that the refs call a interference penalty on and Chris Johnson runs in for a 1yd TD with no time remaining. Ya right your crying would have even been louder and more pathetic.
If you bet Indy you were on the wrong side. I dont even get where you are coming from. If Im reading this right you would have been OK losing if the Titans kicked the feild goal, recovered the onside kick and threw hail mary that the refs call a interference penalty on and Chris Johnson runs in for a 1yd TD with no time remaining. Ya right your crying would have even been louder and more pathetic.
Doughy
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Let me see if I can get this straight in my head...
There are gamblers who seriously believe that an NFL game is fixed somehow by the players, coaches, referees, or some combination thereof. Why? Because there is big money riding on the game between the aforementioned parties or Vegas, and if it's the latter, Vegas somehow influences these parties to fix the game.
Um, yeah. Sure.
Do some of you not understand how many hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars ride on performance clauses in these players' contracts. Nevermind the millions of dollars they have contracted for that would be lost if they were found to participate in such a scandal. I'm talking about number of touchdowns in a season type of incentives. Coaches need to get every point they can, too, because at the end of the season you can bet the owner is going to be looking at point differential over the course of the season.
Now, if we were talking about some obscure college game where the athletes don't necessarily have as much to lose, or a game involving a fix by a lone ref or two (see Dougherty, Tim), then I could understand. But to question the motives of the coach and the players on either side of last night's game, as if they were in collusion to send the game Over or cover the spread is simply ludacris.
Let me see if I can get this straight in my head...
There are gamblers who seriously believe that an NFL game is fixed somehow by the players, coaches, referees, or some combination thereof. Why? Because there is big money riding on the game between the aforementioned parties or Vegas, and if it's the latter, Vegas somehow influences these parties to fix the game.
Um, yeah. Sure.
Do some of you not understand how many hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars ride on performance clauses in these players' contracts. Nevermind the millions of dollars they have contracted for that would be lost if they were found to participate in such a scandal. I'm talking about number of touchdowns in a season type of incentives. Coaches need to get every point they can, too, because at the end of the season you can bet the owner is going to be looking at point differential over the course of the season.
Now, if we were talking about some obscure college game where the athletes don't necessarily have as much to lose, or a game involving a fix by a lone ref or two (see Dougherty, Tim), then I could understand. But to question the motives of the coach and the players on either side of last night's game, as if they were in collusion to send the game Over or cover the spread is simply ludacris.
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Doughboy it comes down to this. Blame. These guys that dont know what they are doing feel the need to put it somewhere. Instead of realizing they made a terrible bet or made an error in judgment its easier for them to say the game was fixed. The problem with that mindset is the only thing you get better at is finding new things blame the outcomes on. Thats how wifes end up getting black eyes on Sunday nights.
Doughboy it comes down to this. Blame. These guys that dont know what they are doing feel the need to put it somewhere. Instead of realizing they made a terrible bet or made an error in judgment its easier for them to say the game was fixed. The problem with that mindset is the only thing you get better at is finding new things blame the outcomes on. Thats how wifes end up getting black eyes on Sunday nights.
Bagiant
EOG Dedicated
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If everyone that thought the Colts -3, 3.5, 4 was an EASY bet, you have no one to blame but yourself for not going the other way. You schmucks keep on making the same mistake over and over. Do like I learned to do 36 years ago. WHEN IT LOOKS SOOOO EASY....GO THE OTHER WAY!!!! Or at least don't bet the game.
Why don't you write down all these "easy" games during the year, and see what the over all tally is wins vs. losses. You'll start to learn real fast.
If everyone that thought the Colts -3, 3.5, 4 was an EASY bet, you have no one to blame but yourself for not going the other way. You schmucks keep on making the same mistake over and over. Do like I learned to do 36 years ago. WHEN IT LOOKS SOOOO EASY....GO THE OTHER WAY!!!! Or at least don't bet the game.
Why don't you write down all these "easy" games during the year, and see what the over all tally is wins vs. losses. You'll start to learn real fast.
WeinketoWarrick
EOG Master
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A terrible bet? Colts were covering all game, their backers just got fucked.
You sound like a real asshole coming in the day later and saying "you should have known you'd get fucked" when the truth is that it was a bullshit cover and that's just part of gambling.
A terrible bet? Colts were covering all game, their backers just got fucked.
You sound like a real asshole coming in the day later and saying "you should have known you'd get fucked" when the truth is that it was a bullshit cover and that's just part of gambling.
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It is OKAY, I know it is hard to believe that there is NO santa clause. Keep prying for that winning touchdown, I am sure Santa, I mean GOD ( ha ha ) will answer your prayers. If you go down your street there is a bag of money waiting for you. Really there is now go get it.
It is OKAY, I know it is hard to believe that there is NO santa clause. Keep prying for that winning touchdown, I am sure Santa, I mean GOD ( ha ha ) will answer your prayers. If you go down your street there is a bag of money waiting for you. Really there is now go get it.
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Bullshit cover? Why? Anyone knows betting a 4 point dog you can be 2 scores down and have a great shot at the back door cover. The team that is favored and up by 10 will usually go into sometime of prevent defense that will give the short stuff that will chew up time. Basic strategy. Anything over 3.5 was an easy Titans play for me. I did lose money on the night becuase i was also on the under which I now realize was the wrong side.
Bullshit cover? Why? Anyone knows betting a 4 point dog you can be 2 scores down and have a great shot at the back door cover. The team that is favored and up by 10 will usually go into sometime of prevent defense that will give the short stuff that will chew up time. Basic strategy. Anything over 3.5 was an easy Titans play for me. I did lose money on the night becuase i was also on the under which I now realize was the wrong side.
WeinketoWarrick
EOG Master
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The Colts were covering until the very end.
Making bets based on the hope that a dog is gonna get a miracle cover is a long-term losing proposition.
I didn't bet the Colts because I knew it was setup for a public burial, but I feel for Colts backers. Especially those that got it 2.5 or 3. You just can't prevent bad luck in gambling, and that's what that was for anybody holding 2.5 or 3.
The Colts were covering until the very end.
Making bets based on the hope that a dog is gonna get a miracle cover is a long-term losing proposition.
I didn't bet the Colts because I knew it was setup for a public burial, but I feel for Colts backers. Especially those that got it 2.5 or 3. You just can't prevent bad luck in gambling, and that's what that was for anybody holding 2.5 or 3.
munson15
I want winners...
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I should have said they 'rarely' go for the FG, and that is simply a product of poor strategy, not some conspiracy involving pointspreads.
munson15
I want winners...
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Speaking only for myself, I can agree that last night's result was a 'bad beat' for Indy backers.12io4j2w90 That said, once they kicked the FG to make it 30-21, you could see it coming a mile away, and it had to be torture to watch with a Colt ticket in your hands.
Speaking only for myself, I can agree that last night's result was a 'bad beat' for Indy backers.12io4j2w90 That said, once they kicked the FG to make it 30-21, you could see it coming a mile away, and it had to be torture to watch with a Colt ticket in your hands.
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You dont get it and looks like you never will. Obviously I didnt bet the game hoping for a miracle cover at the end of the game. I bet the game because Indy shouldtn be 4 point fav against anyone on the road. All Im saying is that when you take a dog you know theres a chance of a backdoor cover. Pretty simple stuff really.
Take away those 2 turnovers that led to 14 points and we have a totally different game. Give the Titans 2 turnovers that lead to TDs and you have a Tennessee blowout.
You dont get it and looks like you never will. Obviously I didnt bet the game hoping for a miracle cover at the end of the game. I bet the game because Indy shouldtn be 4 point fav against anyone on the road. All Im saying is that when you take a dog you know theres a chance of a backdoor cover. Pretty simple stuff really.
Take away those 2 turnovers that led to 14 points and we have a totally different game. Give the Titans 2 turnovers that lead to TDs and you have a Tennessee blowout.
WeinketoWarrick
EOG Master
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If if if.
Congrats on your lucky cover. Portraying it as anything more than that is jackassery at its finest.
If if if.
Congrats on your lucky cover. Portraying it as anything more than that is jackassery at its finest.
cassiusclay
EOG Master
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never bet against a home dog....
colts are a bad team
titans are a bad team
90% of the public on indy
it's monday nite football prime time
it's a toss up game at best, a true gamble
never bet against a home dog....
colts are a bad team
titans are a bad team
90% of the public on indy
it's monday nite football prime time
it's a toss up game at best, a true gamble
WeinketoWarrick
EOG Master
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Yep, might ad well have spun the roulette wheel. Most people just picked black, ruca got lucky with red.
Yep, might ad well have spun the roulette wheel. Most people just picked black, ruca got lucky with red.
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and how would a 25$ a game investor describe the guy who got down on indy -2 and Tenn +5?
and how would a 25$ a game investor describe the guy who got down on indy -2 and Tenn +5?
WeinketoWarrick
EOG Master
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That would be a great investment assuming you aren't paying big juice.
Personally I got down with -3 +100 and +3 +110 for $300 each. Sensing the public burial, I didn't wanna bet the Titans for more than that at SIA and risk further hastening my departure there.
That would be a great investment assuming you aren't paying big juice.
Personally I got down with -3 +100 and +3 +110 for $300 each. Sensing the public burial, I didn't wanna bet the Titans for more than that at SIA and risk further hastening my departure there.
cassiusclay
EOG Master
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-2 1/2 seemed like a no brainer and +3 1/2 was the same, just saying it's a coin flip game at those numbers.
argument can be made for both sides
on to sunday....
-2 1/2 seemed like a no brainer and +3 1/2 was the same, just saying it's a coin flip game at those numbers.
argument can be made for both sides
on to sunday....
BigDaddy
EOG Master
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you have a brother a family member you can trust or a friend?
its not really that hard
you have a brother a family member you can trust or a friend?
its not really that hard