Ohtani Interpreter, Huge Gambling Debts...Fired!

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Heim said:
From Yahoo:

It’s worth noting that using a wire “which entitles the recipient to receive money or credit as a result of bets or wagers” is explicitly listed in the U.S. criminal code as a violation that can result in a fine or imprisonment for up to two years, which might explain the about-face after Mizuhara said Ohtani sent the wire transfer. MLB also strictly forbids any relationships with illegal gambling.

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Ummm, so this means that all of us using our Costa Rican accounts to have a little weekend fun are breaking the law? Even those of us living in gambling-safe havens like Nevada?

Is this why the offshores are moving toward the more nebulous legal areas of cryptocurrency for payouts?
 
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"Mizuhara says that, after Ohtani agreed to pay the debts, the two of them logged into Ohtani's bank account on Ohtani's computer and sent eight or nine transactions, each at $500,000, over several months. They added "loan" to the description field in the transactions. Mizuhara estimates the final payment was made in October."


So Ohtani was so nice he opened up his laptop that many times for 500k and said here you go.

This story is not believable. Since he was the only interpreter, Ohtani was probably kept in the dark about everything until recently. Guy probably had access to his account.
 
mr merlin

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Do bookies give millions of credit to people that cant afford it? yea, the guy might have had access to ohtanis laptop but then we have to assume ohtani NEVER checks it.
 
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Heim said:
"Mizuhara says that, after Ohtani agreed to pay the debts, the two of them logged into Ohtani's bank account on Ohtani's computer and sent eight or nine transactions, each at $500,000, over several months. They added "loan" to the description field in the transactions. Mizuhara estimates the final payment was made in October."


So Ohtani was so nice he opened up his laptop that many times for 500k and said here you go.

This story is not believable. Since he was the only interpreter, Ohtani was probably kept in the dark about everything until recently. Guy probably had access to his account.
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I say Ohtani betting I am about 95% sure
 
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jasson621 said:
I say Ohtani betting I am about 95% sure
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It's possible but a lot was bet on soccer. I read statements from former teammates on the Halos that Ohtani had no interest in other sports. They spend a lot of time with him. They would notice a distraction for the money that was wagered.
 
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The interpreter was making $85,000 a year. He told ESPN he had to borrow money from friends and family to stay afloat... keeping a lifestyle that was in line with Ohtani's. There's the rub if you want to know why he was in the high limit room.
 
mr merlin

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Heim said:
The interpreter was making $85,000 a year. He told ESPN he had to borrow money from friends and family to stay afloat... keeping a lifestyle that was in line with Ohtani's. There's the rub if you want to know why he was in the high limit room.
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I read another report that he was making between $3-500K - way more likely than a lousy 85 grand, especially living in CA.

This guy was not prohibited from betting on baseball - why wouldn't he? Hanging around baseball teams all day, traveling the whole country, that's the only sport he might have an edge on - but he didn't - because it wasn't him betting.
 
blueline

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Heim said:
The interpreter was making $85,000 a year. He told ESPN he had to borrow money from friends and family to stay afloat... keeping a lifestyle that was in line with Ohtani's. There's the rub if you want to know why he was in the high limit room.
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Seems the most plausible scenario.
Your daily life puts uou in a lifestyle you cant afford...you want a bite of the apple via gambling
 
mr merlin

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blueline said:
Seems the most plausible scenario.
Your daily life puts uou in a lifestyle you cant afford...you want a bite of the apple via gambling
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Zero chance he was making $85 K unless if that's what the angels were paying him for interpreting, but Ohtani was paying him an extra $3-400K because he wasn't just an interpreter.

It's possible 85 is the going rate for a clubhouse guy and that's what the angels considerd him to be.
 
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Ya know, just wondering out loud. CA liberals are pizzed that he is deferring or keeping his money from the lunatics of the left. So, they're going after him to destroy image. The lunatics on the left will never, ever, have proof of the wagers, real or invented.
 
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railbird said:
i had way more credit than i deserved from the same guy
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Leave your parents out of this.

Of course Ohtani was making the bets and paying the tabs.

And yes if anything brings heat his hands are clean, every posse has their fall guys already lined up.

We are all in play to protect Mother Goose.
 
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It's definitely Ohtani. You win your bet when you throw a game. He may have done it to get some money back. I don't know for sure that he tanked unless the bookie had no idea that it was Ohtoni. No bookie is going to take a bet from a player betting against his team.
 
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n response to reporters’ inquiries, Ohtani’s spokesman and Mizuhara first told one story (that Ohtani had helped pay off Mizuhara’s massive sports gambling debts), then switched to a second story that directly contradicted the first (that Ohtani had no knowledge of the debts and hadn’t transferred the funds). The flip-flop fueled conversations and conspiracy theories, fanned further by Mizuhara’s firing and replacement, an ESPN report that Ohtani’s representatives had contacted unspecified law enforcement authorities to request an investigation, and a subsequent AP report that Mizuhara and Bowyer (but not Ohtani) are under criminal investigation by the IRS
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www.theringer.com

Five Big Questions About MLB’s Investigation Into Shohei Ohtani and His Interpreter

The newest Dodgers star and his longtime interpreter, Ippei Mizuhara, are at the center of an investigation into sports gambling debts and what Ohtani’s attorneys are calling "massive theft." What do we know? Why has the story changed so much already? And what could come next?
www.theringer.com www.theringer.com
 
Heim

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This investigation has reached Resorts World in Vegas. Specifically the bookmaker who had carte blanche there. RW already busted once, fined and CEO fired for not complying with the 'know your customer' law. Now Feds digging again. Feds get serious when they smell laundering activity.
 
howid

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680 deffered ... and dude got married in a hurry.

could get interesting if the interpreter was to claim he and Ohtani were lovers ...
 
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Am I missing something? As long as Ohtani or his friend/ interpreter didn't bet on baseball it's not that big of a story, right?
 
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This guy really blew it, he was also Ohtani's personal assistant and was probably paying all his de minimis expenses which
no doubt included 'interpreters' personal expenses. I'm sure he took cash draws all the time without Ohtani having a clue.

Another TKO by gambling.
 
mr merlin

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Heim said:
This guy really blew it, he was also Ohtani's personal assistant and was probably paying all his de minimis expenses which
no doubt included 'interpreters' personal expenses. I'm sure he took cash draws all the time without Ohtani having a clue.

Another TKO by gambling.
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You watch, 6 months or a yr from now it'll come out that they're still best friends. Because the guy only did what he was told,.
 
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Not only was Ohtani in the dark on this (allegedly), so were the Dodgers. So ESPN has a story and wants to run with it.

You don't set up a interview with them, what was this spokesman for the interpreter thinking? He's employed by LAD, you go to them immediately and get advice from their legal team. This turned into a circus because the interpreter panicked.
 
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Would the Dodger attorneys allow Ohtani to give a public statement about someone lying and stealing if it wasn't true? If false he opens himself up for libel. These weren't accusations but a series of events spoken from a prepared statement.
 
mr merlin

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Heim said:
Would the Dodger attorneys allow Ohtani to give a public statement about someone lying and stealing if it wasn't true? If false he opens himself up for libel. These weren't accusations but a series of events spoken from a prepared statement.
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That makes sense IF the interpreter hasn't already agreed to take the blame to protect his friend, mentor and financial fountain of money ohtani.

Ok kid, here's the deal, I cant admit to millions in gambling losses, we'll say it was you and I knew nothing, dont worry about a thing, it'll blow over and I'll make it worth your while.

Keep in mind the dodgers probably have no clue either.
 
mr merlin

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Ohtani should hire the same guy as his new interpreter, just have him wear a wig, glasses and a fake moustache.
 
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Now a story out of Japan has added another layer to Mizuhara's story, which seems to lend even more credibility to Ohtani's version of events. According to a translation of an article in Bunshun, one former player with the Nippon Ham Fighters, a Japanese professional baseball team, said Mizuhara would frequently take players to casinos in the U.S. during training camps in Arizona to teach them how to gamble.

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kane

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I don't think those were Ohtani's bets, I don't think he would risk everything to bet on sporting events, what I think happened was the interpreter made the bets and got in way over his head, he told Ohtani about it, Ohtani agreed to help his friend and pay the debt not realizing he could get in trouble for doing so, that's why the initial reporting was Ohtani didn't place the bets but paid the debt, after finding out he could get in trouble for paying the debt, he changed the story to the interpreter stole the money, Ohtani needed to plead total ignorance in order to not get in any trouble and not be involved in any way, of course the interpreter would take total responsibility and not implicate Ohtani in any way in order to protect him. We may never find out exactly what happened, but I would be very surprised if Ohtani placed those bets, I think it was a case of one friend bailing out another by paying a debt not knowing there could be repercussions for doing so, so the two of them got together and decided to say Ohtani knew nothing of it and it was all on the interpreter, if that's how it happened Ohtani did nothing wrong really, had he known beforehand paying the debt would have consequences I'm sure he wouldn't have done it.
 
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Respectfully disagree with Kane/Heim, there is zero chance he is getting that much credit from any bookie without the bookie making contact with the money guy. The interpreter could say Ohtani will pay but the bet taker would have to hear this from Otani's mouth not his.
 
mr merlin

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kane said:
I don't think those were Ohtani's bets, I don't think he would risk everything to bet on sporting events, what I think happened was the interpreter made the bets and got in way over his head, he told Ohtani about it, Ohtani agreed to help his friend and pay the debt not realizing he could get in trouble for doing so, that's why the initial reporting was Ohtani didn't place the bets but paid the debt, after finding out he could get in trouble for paying the debt, he changed the story to the interpreter stole the money, Ohtani needed to plead total ignorance in order to not get in any trouble and not be involved in any way, of course the interpreter would take total responsibility and not implicate Ohtani in any way in order to protect him. We may never find out exactly what happened, but I would be very surprised if Ohtani placed those bets, I think it was a case of one friend bailing out another by paying a debt not knowing there could be repercussions for doing so, so the two of them got together and decided to say Ohtani knew nothing of it and it was all on the interpreter, if that's how it happened Ohtani did nothing wrong really, had he known beforehand paying the debt would have consequences I'm sure he wouldn't have done it.
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What consequences? he didn't bet on baseball and betting on other sports is not illegal for MLB players.

That's the bottom line, this sideshow involving CA sports betting law and the bookie means very little to ohtani.

No chance ohtani would pay millions to a bookie he's never met, to "help out" a guy who stole from him either.

Obviously there's ZERO chance a bookie is extending credit like that as well to some shlub making a few hundred K/yr. That's not huge money for CA.
 
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MSN report on Ohtani 1st (Dodger) HR ball:

"There was 'confusion" regarding the HR ball.

Confusion?? Dodger security basically sorrounded the woman, kept her husband separated from her, and initimidated her into giving up the ball for basically nothing.
 
mr merlin

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Valuist said:
MSN report on Ohtani 1st (Dodger) HR ball:

"There was 'confusion" regarding the HR ball.

Confusion?? Dodger security basically sorrounded the woman, kept her husband separated from her, and initimidated her into giving up the ball for basically nothing.
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She didn't have to, you stand your ground, there's nothing they can do.
 
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They're saying Ohtani's first homerun ball with LAD could be worth as much as 100k!?

Really??
 
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