Drnkyourmlkshk
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God I picked the wrong time to get out of touting. I needed to make some videos and posters it seems lol
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Sportsrmylife
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Stu Feiner is doing well. He has teamed up with Barstool sports to do videos and given how the audience at barstool are guys in their 20's who don't know shut but have money I'm sure he is once again piling in the cash.
Does anyone know where the video of those HBO segments into this handicapping investigation are?
Also....the new talk on twitter is this guy called "CashOutKing". He has posted tickets (or photoshopped tickets) on twitter in the six-figures (100,000+).
He got the interest of spanky as he offered to bet through the account for him.
Cashoutking laughed at him.
Does anyone know where the video of those HBO segments into this handicapping investigation are?
Also....the new talk on twitter is this guy called "CashOutKing". He has posted tickets (or photoshopped tickets) on twitter in the six-figures (100,000+).
He got the interest of spanky as he offered to bet through the account for him.
Cashoutking laughed at him.
Sportsrmylife
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A high-energy, screaming ginger is what the market needs.
Give the market what they want.
boston massacre
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Jim Feist's USA Today Network Show Called Pro Line.
A Lot of Them were on There at one Time or Another.
First Moderated By Lee Pete.
Spreitzer Came on in The Later Stages of The Show.
After Lee Pete, it was Notre Dame's Jack Snow as Moderator.
After Jack Snow, Feist Moderated The Show.
Larry Ness, Chip, Spreitzer, Bob Gregorka, Wayne Root, Cokin.
boston massacre
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Being From Pennsylvania, Wagner Like To Pitch His Bullshit, as Having Inside Information on The Penn St. Nittany Lions.
boston massacre
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you stopped bettorIQ ? They still in business? one question I have to ask you. ...you for sure have good sources... what percent of your plays are injury plays ?
TheGuesser
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The Score Phone Tout guy I remember is Johnny DeMarco.
jimmythegreek
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Stay with us
jimmythegreek
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And Glenn McGrew too! Man I miss those days.
jimmythegreek
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I remember an original pitch back in the day but I forgot the handicappers name. Sounded like a Ron Howard type voice. "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is all that matters, especially in this business".
Drnkyourmlkshk
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Just no selling plays on my end. Still will have podcast and articles. Don't need the money and not sure I ever did if being honest. Lines were moving 4 points on release last year and it just got a bit out of control. Might revisit it some year if I can find a solution and theres not a pandemic.
I released 12 games a week in college and 13 in nba on average and play at least double that I believe on average. I think players won 65 units combined in one nba season and 2 cfb seasons. Big CLV I guess. Was fun the first year and less last year got very stressful. Much harder job if you're trying to win for you and 80 of your new friends.
Maybe 2% of plays are injury related I'd guess. I dont know what was released. Gave me too much anxiety. Gave plays to waz and what had the most value once I'm down in full goes out. There were 2 really huge plays for me last year involving injuries that people know about. I had the inside edge on La tech suspensions and I also knew CMU QB injury was a non factor vs NM state and played back heavy versus the move everywhere I could.
Nice when they work out but had a huge bet against Ark state in 18 when Bonner went down and of course his backup looked twice as good.. sunk ship there. Injuries can be tricky. The key to a good injury is market timing only. Everyone has same price mostly nowadays. Pff will kill us all eventually.
Wanted to answer at length just for you Mr. Top and I hope you are feeling well. Feel free to text anytime, Eddie
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railbird
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you can tell when dave is lying, its when he moves his lips
FairWarning
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I forgot about Jack Snow's involvement.
texaswizzard
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Maybe the most dangerous of them all was Wayne Root. He was always telling you how successful he is. He had an answer for everything. If you told him that he had a 15% chargeback rate he would respond that it wasn't true and he had a AAA from the Better Business Bureau. He had 18 complaints at one time from the BBB and claimed they were all settled in his favor. That was a lie. He also claimed that he wasn't running a telemarketing office. That was a lie. He also told me on all three conversations we had about his star on the walk in Las Vegas. He left out he bought it for 15K as a sales tool.
jimmythegreek
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For a minute this was sounding as woeful as a Maury Povich lie detector test.
Sportsrmylife
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So you are saying a move into politics was a natural move for him.
Wonder why he didn't grow a bigger following. This looks like something he has been working towards for years.
boston massacre
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boston massacre
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First Saw Root on A Cable Channel Called FINANCIAL NEWS NETWORK.
He Would Be in Studio, Giving Out 6 NFL Plays, During Broadcast on a Sat. Nite.
He was a Guest, and The Moderator was Hugh MaLay.
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When The Supreme Court Legalized Sports Betting For The Whole Country, Wayne Root Mentioned That He Wanted To Start a National Sports Advisory Business.
Jb777
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What do you mean by PFF will kill us all eventually ?
winkyduck
TYVM Morgan William!!!
Root is scum. PURE SCUM!
He always came across as he was the smartest person. Not in the room but on the planet. He had his "Don't make sense" plays where he would take a team that betting on did not make any sense at all - but he would play them.
Who can forget the time he was on the Stardust Line and hawked his wife's Peanut Butter.
In all fairness to him, Walk/Stars are almost all bought. In that someone has to pay for them and if someone wants one bad enough they can get one if they are even close to consideration for it. He buys his way on to almost all shows. He will buy his way on to a show then say he was an "invited guest" of the show.
100% TRUE story: So many years ago a friend calls me. The friend was some Exec Producer for a Fantasy Football show on Fox Sports (Cable). He says how his boss came to him and said someone named Wayne Root wanted to buy time on the show. I told my friend BE CAREFUL! I warned him what Root was like and how Root would make it seem like the show asked him to be on it instead of him buying his way on it. The thing fell thru and Root never got on it.
Something else he is (in)famous for: He would enter some Handicapping contest. He would have a great 1st week. He might go something like 4-1. Or 2-0 if it was that kind of contest. He would then not submit any more picks so he could then say he had the highest winning % of the contest. He was 100% true there. He just left out the fact he only submitted plays for one week.
You can check out Root now on Twitter. Just know he is as right wing as it gets. He makes Reagan look like a liberal. If he played hockey he would be positioned about 15 rows into the stands, he is so right wing. I am not saying that is good or bad - just it is - and that is not something we can argue (the fact he is a farrrrrrrrrrrrrrr right winger).
FairWarning
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He's almost Alex Jones level.
Drnkyourmlkshk
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Pro football focus if you study it well you'll know every players worth over time.
Murphy’s Best
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Ernie Kaufman was the best handicapper I used. Honest & loved his underdogs, he was also a pleasure to talk to. It’s a shame cancer got the best of him in 2005.
WildBill
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No one will ever top Jack Price. I can still hear that guys bullshit in my head from 35 years ago.
Guys you're stupid if you aren't betting inside information. Do you like money? I love money, love it more than my wife!!! Don't be stupid you love money too and you are going to want to bet this lock. It comes from an insider who is in the Falcons locker room right now! A guaranteed winner for just 19.99!!!
Guys you're stupid if you aren't betting inside information. Do you like money? I love money, love it more than my wife!!! Don't be stupid you love money too and you are going to want to bet this lock. It comes from an insider who is in the Falcons locker room right now! A guaranteed winner for just 19.99!!!
boston massacre
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Ty Gaston.
Viejo Dinosaur
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Anybody out there selling picks for less than 9 dollars?
jayberwanger
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RIP Larry Ness. You will be missed!
winkyduck
TYVM Morgan William!!!
Saw this just now. Agreed. A real "one of a kind" - not sure if that is good or bad.
Hoping one day we can get the good news Stu Feiner exploded and is no longer with us. Or Vegas Dave will f**k with the wrong person and the midget will get squashed like the cockroach he is.
I remember Larry Ness from his radio days at Bally's.
He struck me as a good guy in a dirty business.
Hard to be a straight-shooter in the sports advisory business.
You can tell the truth about everyone and everything, except for your business.
For guys like Larry Ness and Dave Cokin, they have an opinion on every topic until it comes to the boiler room of sales people at Jim Feist Sports.
The first tracking I ever did was for the old infomercial Proline show around the late 80's. Guys like Feist, Cokin, Ness, Chip Chirimbes, Scott Spreitzer, Kelso Sturgeon, etc. I knew the "free picks" were likely to be marginal bets, but I think over 7-8 years collectively they were sub 50%.
Heim
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Spreitzer does some stuff for BetUS now plus the pick sales.
The Feist guys really talk a good game. I can see why Feist broke the
bank in the 90s.
Spreitzer started in the boiler room telemarketing....before breaking out
with his own 900 number.
Interesting how a Vegas tout was going to expose Feist with audio tapes
claiming they talked inside information on games....but it never happened.
The Feist guys really talk a good game. I can see why Feist broke the
bank in the 90s.
Spreitzer started in the boiler room telemarketing....before breaking out
with his own 900 number.
Interesting how a Vegas tout was going to expose Feist with audio tapes
claiming they talked inside information on games....but it never happened.
The first rule of a Jim Feist handicapper: Sell, sell, sell.
I always chuckled when Dave Cokin would promote his "sales package."
Don't buy my NFL picks, he would say.
My college picks are where it's at.
Hahaha.
I always chuckled when Dave Cokin would promote his "sales package."
Don't buy my NFL picks, he would say.
My college picks are where it's at.
Hahaha.
Ness was opinionated.
More of a football guy than baseball or basketball.
His one-time radio partner, Bob Kemp, was a walking sports encyclopedia.
Could Kemp offer winning opinions in the sports book?
I'd guess no.
Those trivia guys usually come up empty when tackling odds of 11/10.
More of a football guy than baseball or basketball.
His one-time radio partner, Bob Kemp, was a walking sports encyclopedia.
Could Kemp offer winning opinions in the sports book?
I'd guess no.
Those trivia guys usually come up empty when tackling odds of 11/10.
boston massacre
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I remember Larry Ness from his radio days at Bally's.
Lenny Del Genio.
Was He The Sportsbook Manager When Larry Ness Was Doing His Radio Show At Bally's?
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