The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

the market was at 8200 when president bush left office. i think the 10000 it is at today speaks for itself!

Speaks for itself, does it? What planet are you living on?

Can you point to one fundamental economic indicator that proves this market isn't a total mirage?

The other shoe that's about to drop in commercial real estate?

The unemployment rate?

Massive monetized debt that is weakening the USD?

Government propping up poorly managed companies?

:+clueless
 

roscoe

EOG Veteran
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

the money many of us have made in the stock market is very real!if the stock market is a mirage,why are the smartest investors in the world pouring money into it?
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

the money many of us have made in the stock market is very real!if the stock market is a mirage,why are the smartest investors in the world pouring money into it?


Market up, dollar down more.

Its called inflation

You went backwards, and its a gross hidden tax against everyone, and destroys the people that can afford it least

Have you checked oil prices???
 

tank

EOG Dedicated
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

the money many of us have made in the stock market is very real!if the stock market is a mirage,why are the smartest investors in the world pouring money into it?
The smartest investors in the world will be taking their profit and running like they always have.
 

tank

EOG Dedicated
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

Market up, dollar down more.

Its called inflation

You went backwards, and its a gross hidden tax against everyone, and destroys the people that can afford it least

Have you checked oil prices???
The only good thing about the dollar being down is that our exports are cheaper but the negative out ways the positive.Wait and see how other countries react when this takes full effect.
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

Market up, dollar down more.

Its called inflation

You went backwards, and its a gross hidden tax against everyone, and destroys the people that can afford it least

Have you checked oil prices???




Think about the problem here

If the dow goes to 15,000, but it costs you $20 for a can of soda, have you really made any money???????

Wake up people, you Country and currency are being destroyed

I N F L A T I O N K I L L S


Joe Weisenthal|Oct. 14, 2009, 1:40 PM



http://www.businessinsider.com/that-...dollar-2009-10
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

Think about the problem here

If the dow goes to 15,000, but it costs you $20 for a can of soda, have you really made any money???????

Wake up people, you Country and currency are being destroyed

I N F L A T I O N K I L L S


Joe Weisenthal|Oct. 14, 2009, 1:40 PM



http://www.businessinsider.com/that-...dollar-2009-10






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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This week's chart is our recommendation to mainstream media to "get real." [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]On Wednesday, the Dow Industrials climbed over 10,000 for the first time in a year. The rise caused all the major media outlooks to wet their pants and splash it across their papers and websites. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DailyWealth readers know it's a ridiculous exercise. They know the smart investor doesn't pay much attention to the nominal price of stocks. The smart investor measures such things in "real money" terms: in terms of gold. As you can see from this week's chart, in terms of gold, the Dow hasn't done squat this year. The U.S. dollar's plunge has wiped out the real purchasing power of stock gains. [/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dow 10,000? Who cares? [/FONT]

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The Seer

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The DOW is rising because the TARP money is being used by bankers to buy stocks. When they run out of TARP money, who is going to buy the stocks?
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
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You can sell your stock, but what will you be able to buy with your money???????
:+clueless




Brace for impact, the crisis is in front of us
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

You can sell your stock, but what will you be able to buy with your money???????
:+clueless




Brace for impact, the crisis is in front of us

Lots of people aren't concerned about the stock market,just where their next meals coming from;and the dollars not going to turn around too quick with all the debt holding it down.
The crisis is all around us.

Lining up at Midnight at Wal-Mart to buy Food
is part of the new Recovery.
Excerpts from:
http://www.mybudget360.com/lining-u...he-invisible-recovery-outside-of-wall-street/

At a recent Alliance for Family Entertainment of the Association of National Advertisers, Wal-Mart gave a sobering look at the current economy:

?(NY Times) There are families not eating at the end of the month,? said Stephen Quinn, executive vice president and chief marketing officer at Wal-Mart Stores, and ?literally lining up at midnight? at Wal-Mart stores waiting to buy food when paychecks or government checks land in their accounts.?
Now this is important since Wal-Mart is in every corner of every American metro area:

The fact that you have people lining up at midnight just waiting to have their paychecks or government checks clear for food is probably something you are not going to see on CNBC but it is happening. This recession is really creating a split and is also flaming the fires of class warfare. Average Americans and working class Americans are still dealing with what is known as the Great Recession.


There is little reason to believe that the dollar is going to spike significantly over the long run.
We simply have too much debt:


Add up the above and you arrive at $52 trillion in debt. Home mortgages are $10.3 trillion of this amount. State and local governments struggling with tax revenues have $2.3 trillion in debt. Add in unfunded Social Security and Medicare liabilities and you can see why we are entering a perfect storm.
 

The Seer

EOG Dedicated
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You can sell your stock, but what will you be able to buy with your money???????
Gold, rental houses, farmland, water rights in the west, copper, a short position on a future contracts contract for US Bonds or DOW. The list goes on of what is good today. Uou have to buy with care, s always. Banks are in trounle already with loans they made in 2007, 2008 and 2009 on houses that had dropped 33% and now are worth less
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
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We Don't Need Any
Steenking Consumers
By Karl Denninger
Friday, November 13. 2009
Excerpts from:
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1621-We-Dont-Need-Any-Steenking-Consumers.html

All we need is for The Fed to encourage and promote the dollar carry trade, and we can pump the stock market to the moon - even though unemployment continues to skyrocket and consumer confidence, a leading indicator of consumer spending and activity, was in the tank this morning.

But what if the Fed's efforts to stoke a recovery are merely creating asset bubbles in equities and elsewhere? What if government guarantees - explicit and implicit - are encouraging high-risk investment behavior rather than restoring conditions for normal market returns? What if excess dollars produced here are being channeled by speculators into foreign stock and bond markets as part of a currency play?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704402404574529510954803156.html

...the correlation charts of the dollar and S&P 500?
You know, this one, showing correlation from March onward:



You need no further proof that the stock market has exactly nothing to do with the consumer or the broader economy - that it has become nothing more or less than a raw casino that responds to one and only one thing - the Federal Reserve and Federal Government's encouragement of intentional dollar debasement...​

Less than 10 minutes after disastrous consumer confidence numbers were released the dollar basically imploded (as you'd expect - the dollar is fundamentally underpinned by the government's ability to tax, and without confidence and jobs that ability to tax disappears) and as it did the S&P 500 marched steadily higher by 1%, propelled by the simultaneous implosion of the currency.​

Folks, this will not end well. This intentional distortion of asset prices against the underlying economic fundamentals will revert, and when it does the stock and credit markets (which have been "pumped" by equity appreciation) will be destroyed.​

When the market degenerates down to a handful of trading houses with high-frequency trading computers passing the same 100 shares back and forth between themselves as the remainder of the market participants have gotten tired of getting reamed on a daily basis due to the cheating and decide to take their ball and go home, how do the "big trading houses" make money?
 

tank

EOG Dedicated
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Scrimmage when do you think the tax hike is coming??After the 2010 elections???
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
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Scrimmage when do you think the tax hike is coming??After the 2010 elections???
tank;
What "tax hike"?The way the government raises money is always being adjusted,sometimes increases/decreases are made,but they're offset by decreases/increases somewhere else.
Revenue enhancements get slipped into legislation,so blame can't be easily assigned,that's one reason why the TARP bill went from a few pages to hundreds,and the health care bill runs to nearly 2000.
Any future income tax hike wouldn't be across the board,because of the economy,who's making the money and has the ability to pay?Someone must be benefitting,from the huge increase in productivity,by those workers who remain employed.


the dollar is fundamentally underpinned by the government's ability to tax, and without confidence and jobs that ability to tax disappears)

 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
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VAT Tax coming, and I dont mean to replace the income tax, in addition to

RON PAUL SAVE US!!

 

tank

EOG Dedicated
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tank;
What "tax hike"?The way the government raises money is always being adjusted,sometimes increases/decreases are made,but they're offset by decreases/increases somewhere else.

Basically this.They are already raising the price of your drivers license here in Illinois along with fishing and hunting licenses but it is not considered a tax.It is their way of getting more money from you without calling it a tax increase.What else are they going to increase on you??I still say a payroll take increase is going to be on the table soon also.
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

Oil at 82.50, gas prices heading back over $3.00

Gold continues its rally after the short profit taking push and short term dollar rally


January 8, 2010

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Is the stock market setting up for a sharp decline (a.k.a. crash)? The stupendous disconnect between a V-shaped euphoric market and a disintegrating real economy will be settled sooner or later.

For your consideration on this first day of 2010, two charts: the 10-year chart of the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) and a one-year chart of the VIX "fear index." (As always, please read the HUGE GIANT BIG FAT DISCLAIMER below to refresh your awareness that this is not investment advice but merely the freely offered musings of an amateur.)
In early December I (along with many others) noted the deteriorating conditions beneath the widely trumpeted "breakout to new highs" of the past few weeks: A Megaphone Announcing Extremes of Sentiment and Indecision (December 3, 2009) and Bearish Cross in NYSE Volume Suggests Rally Will Crumble (December 4, 2009).

If we look at the past decade in the Dow, the steep V-shaped rebound is clearly visible. This sure looks like a market which is absolutely convinced the U.S. economy is not just on the road to recovery but is already "burning rubber" and shifting into second gear.
Compare this classic V-shaped panic drop and surging euphoria with the choppy, 3-year-long "slope of hope" decline exhibited during the 2000-2002 recession.
The disconnect between the reality of a disintegrating economy propped up solely by unprecedented Federal borrowing, spending, subsidies, giveaways, swag, guarantees, secret intervention in the markets, Fed purchase of Treasury bonds, Fed purchases of toxic-trash mortgage-backed securities, etc. etc. and the market's euphoria about the "recovery" could not be sharper.




Beneath the "happy story" propaganda about the "recovery":
  1. employment is still falling
  2. credit/lending is still declining
  3. sales and income taxes are still in free-fall
  4. commercial real estate is about to crash The Gathering Storm in Commercial Real Estate (CRE) (October 21, 2009)
  5. the residential housing market is totally dependent on Federal support of the mortgage market and tax-credit giveaways: The Final Demise of A Speculative Housing Bubble (September 16, 2009)
These are just the highlights of a deteriorating economy propped up by unsustainable Federal stimulus and interventions.
The stock market has priced in a rapid rise in "real growth," i.e. growth which isn't created by/totally dependent on Federal borrowing/ largesse/ guarantees. By any historic measure, it is priced to perfection: the slightest wavering in the "sharp rebound in consumer spending, GDP and profits" story will call into question the 10-month long 60+% rally since early March, 2009.
What is Mr. VIX saying about this euphoric confidence in a V-shaped recovery of the real economy? It seems Mr. VIX is like a nervous suitor, wavering in wild manic-depressive fashion between the absolute euphoria of "she loves me" (the economy tanked, so a sharp rebound is guaranteed!) to the icy fear of "she loves me not" (the economy is still imploding, lending has seized up, banks are actually insolvent, toxic assets are still priced at 100% nominal valuation on the books, Federal borrowing is unsustainable, the consumer is retrenching, everyone is deleveraging, real estate is not reflating, the propaganda isn't taking, it's only fueling populist rage, etc.).
This indecision is reflected in a giant megaphone pattern:
There is a rich trove of irony here: the megaphone pattern began at the very point that the economy was declared "out of recession." It seems Mr. Market is not quite as sure about that as the cheerleaders in the Fed, Treasury, White House and mainstream media.
Like Mr. VIX, Mr. Market wants to believe that the "recovery" is real, but all those nagging facts are triggering anxiety attacks in the VIX as punters rush to buy puts (options) as insurance against a sudden implosion of the "recovery" story.
If everything is truly peachy and stunningly robust growth is just around the corner, then the VIX should trend around 19 or 20. No need for insurance against a market implosion if the entire economy is fundamentally sound, secure, and low-risk.
On the other hand, this is also the perfect set-up for a spike in volatility and a "what goes up must come down" crash back to the March 2009 lows. (A double-bottom /retest would be par for the course.)
A "story" built on lies, prevarications, extend-and-pretend accounting, Federal funding of everything under the sun, bogus statistics (birth-death model of adding millions of phantom jobs, anyone?) and transparent propaganda can come apart with ferocious speed. There are a lot of punters who are long and the exit is the size of a pet door.
Disclosure: I am short the market via puts.
Charles Hugh Smith writes the Of Two Minds blog and is the author of several books, most recently "Survival+: Structuring Prosperity for Yourself and the Nation." To visit his blog, click here.

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brucefan

EOG Dedicated
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

Everytime he opens his mouth, down we go

Did I mention we are in deep shit yet today??


China GDP 10.7% , They are worried about overheating !!!

We would have a party if we had any positive sustained growth

We cant raise rates or our entire economy collapses.

look for more dollar pressure soon


War on Prosperity
Market Commentary
By Charles Payne, CEO & Principal Analyst

Nero fiddled with Rome but this time around President Obama is busy setting fires himself in his zeal to bring greedy bankers to their knees. In the process, he will bring to its knees the very system that raises money for business expansion, finds homes for investments, and that frees up funds for Main Street. Of course, these items make our overall stock market weaker. The CME, ICE, NDAQ, and NYX are getting rocked. Then there is Goldman Sachs (GS), JP Morgan (JPM), and Morgan Stanley (MS). Regional banks act great but the overall market is reeling from yet another malicious attack on capitalism. Some stuff is hard to argue against, and in fact I don't like the idea of banks making high risk trades with Main Street deposits. However, it's transparently clear that the venom aimed at this industry reflects deep animosity toward prosperity. I think that the market is sending a message as loud and as clear as the voters in Massachusetts.

http://www.wstreet.com/member/commentary.asp :doh1
 
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What a joke.

This is gonna dry up almost all liquidity in the markets.

Gee, I wonder why stocks tanked today and businesses are still struggling.

How is this going to help increase lending and job creation?

Until this Marxist is booted out, the best we can hope for is stagnation. The worst would be total economic collapse.

Everything the ghetto's Black Jesus touches TURNS TO CRAP!

How do you like Obozo now, Warren? 2938u4ji23
 
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Of course, whatever His Royal Highness Comrade Crown Prince Hussein (who is a black man very near the white women, I might add) does brings out the peanut-klan gallery, but when the buffoon engaged in identical acts, nary a peep was heard from the zany dingbat brigade. . .Hmmmm, I wonder what's different?. . . .
 
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Big Apple mayor blasts Obama bank rules

posted at 1:36 pm on January 22, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
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If Barack Obama hoped to pivot to the economy by stirring up populist anger against the very banks he and Democrats in Congress helped bail out over the last two years, he found controversy and a shot across his bow instead. Mayor Mike Bloomberg lashed out at Obama?s reform proposals, calling them economic doom for his city and an end to the US as the center of Western finance. Expect layoffs by the boatload if this passes, an angry Bloomberg told reporters yesterday:
President Barack Obama?s demand Thursday that Congress clamp down on the size of banks and their investments got major blowback from New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who said it could cause layoffs and hurt the city.

It?s a clash between the president and the mayor. President Obama wants to whittle away at the size of the financial services industry. ?

The mayor was so upset about the move ? and a suggestion that Wall Street bonuses be put in escrow, which means the money wouldn?t be spent here, wouldn?t help the city economy ? he responded with a proposal of his own for members of Congress.

?Maybe we should hold back their salaries for a decade or so and see whether the laws they pass work out,? Bloomberg said.
The mayor also demanded that the members of our congressional delegation go to the mat to protect the financial services industry, much like senators from Texas protect the oil industry.
Obama got some pushback from his own team as well. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, already one of the most unpopular officials in Obama?s Cabinet, let his reservations about Obama?s plan go public at the same time:
President Barack Obama?s newest Wall Street crackdown was met with hesitation from Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who voiced concern that politics could sacrifice good economic policy, according to financial industry sources.

Geithner is concerned that the proposed limits on big banks? trading and size could impact U.S. firms? global competitiveness, the sources said, speaking anonymously because Geithner has not spoken publicly about his reservations.

He also has concerns that the limits do not necessarily get at the root of the problems and excesses that fueled the recent financial meltdown, the sources said.
The Corner has an enlightening running debate at their site today on how exactly these reforms would have stopped the 2008 financial collapse. The consensus among supporters and dissenters is that they wouldn?t have even applied to that crisis, a conclusion that the White House essentially corroborated with its response to Reuters:
The White House official said Obama?s economic team considered the concern that proprietary trading was not at the heart of the problems that fueled the financial crisis. But it concluded that reform needed to be about more than just fighting the last war, it needed to address sources of future risk as well, the official said.
That certainly leaves the impression that the White House plan has a lot more to do with long-term ideological goals than in fixing what actually went wrong.

Read through the entire debate, because both sides make good points. To the extent that we allowed financial institutions to reach the point where one or two failures could crash the whole system, some reform may be in order. But we should be focusing on fixing what was broken, not on a wish list of government interventions left over from the early 1980s, either. We can start by removing the moral hazard that the bailouts created, ie, make it clear that we aren?t bailing out banks or corporations in the future and ending the TARP programs immediately.

But if we really want to keep the financial sector healthy, Congress has to quit conducting social engineering by warping the market with artificial incentives, especially in lending and securities. None of this would have happened had Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac not started a housing bubble by buying and then securitizing trillions in bad debt, pushed by Congress to entice lenders to make risky loans, and then not paying attention to the secondary derivative markets that created. Legislation that bars the government from the lending markets in any other role than normal regulation would go a long way towards building investor confidence and economic strength.
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
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sorry bruce that your happiness over the dow:doh1 falling below 10000 only lasted 24 hours! maybe there will be a terrorist attack and you can reach orgasm that it was on obama's watch!



Sure, dollar started back down on its march toward zero :doh1

Again any uptick in the market is all because of inflation!

The next strong leg down though will be when all confidence is lost on the dollar

Barak Obama has made the problems much worse, and continues to pour salt on the wound.
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
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March 24, 2010

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By John Browne
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Last week, the Dow closed at 10,741, up some 64 percent since its 2009 lows, [03/19/10, Yahoo! Finance] when most markets had priced in the likelihood of financial Armageddon. As the markets have rebounded from the brink of disaster, many Wall Street cheerleaders have proclaimed the dawning of a major new bull market. If we measure market cycles biannually, and if bull markets need not eclipse peaks achieved in previous cycles, then this forecast is spot on. Of course, most investors are not saving for next week, but for homes, college tuitions, and retirements. For these longer term investors, the euphoria of the current rally may soon turn to despair when the market faces the unsavory fundamentals of a second financial crisis.

We have long raised the point that, in general, the political, economic, and financial fundamentals of our new mega-government era do not support a sunny long-term outlook for U.S. stocks. Today, the S&P 500 trades at 21.6 times current earnings, which is 32% higher than the average over the last 30 years. [03/24/10, multipl.com] With so much economic uncertainty on the horizon, I'm not sure how you make the case that the market is still undervalued. The nature of the recent stock price move appears to be that of a bear-market rally, not a bull-market resurgence.

Politically, this past Sunday's passage of mandatory health insurance for all U.S. citizens, popularly dubbed 'Obamacare,' causes the greatest worry. None of the fundamental problems confronting the American healthcare sector were adequately addressed by this reform. Instead, government controls were increased and entrenched, and expensive new entitlements were offered to the voting public. Far from cutting the deficit, the costs of the new plan are likely to deepen deficits indefinitely. The Wall Street Journal reported Monday that the cost would be $940 billion over the next decade. The President, in speaking of the new health measure, declared that ?[t]his is only a first step.? As in most socialist regimes, grand promises of milk and honey first win the popular vote, leading to bureaucracies that diminish, if not eradicate, individual freedom of choice.

The American free-enterprise model has been used by myriad nations as an ideal for economic growth and prosperity. As a reward, the United States served for many years as the darling of international investors. On the other hand, socialism has failed everywhere it has been tried. An America rapidly devolving toward socialism will unquestionably act as a disincentive to international investors. Increasingly, foreign funds will be withdrawn from our shores and taken to parts of the world that embrace capitalism.

Economically, the United States and European Union, and many of their constituent states, are among the world?s most flagrant debtors. These debts are not being used to invest in profitable endeavors, but rather in welfare hand-outs and make-work projects. Worse still, these governments are adding new debt with such speed and volume that Moody's has begun to issue warnings on their previously untouchable credit ratings. Besides introducing tremendous regime uncertainty into the markets, spendthrift fiscal policy has the added harm of crowding out corporate and private borrowers.

The private sector can ill-afford this deprivation. While corporate earnings have risen substantially since the country began careening toward recession, this has largely been achieved by layoffs, improvements in inventory controls, and consolidated product lines. With top-line sales decreasing, the ability to produce rising profits by slashing costs cannot continue for long. We're looking for another wave of corporate bankruptcies as the anticipated V-shaped recovery fails to materialize.

The technical situation of the U.S. stock market looks similarly fragile. The 64 percent rally from the lows of early 2009 appears overbought. The fact that it has occurred on very light volume makes today's prices even more tenuous. That the rally may continue of its own momentum through the spring does not alter the poor fundamentals.

While stocks continued to move upward last week, the market is sensitive to Greece, Portugal and Europe's debt problems, as well as political and economic problems at home. There is some job recovery, but far too little. Corporations and governments are depending on a miraculous economic boom to remain solvent. When the Fed finally allows interest rates to reach more appropriate levels, look for the glass floor to begin cracking. It is comforting to think bullish, but, for now, the aura of recovery is just so much bull.

As an aside, all investors should keep in mind 'opportunity costs' as a matter of regular portfolio review. Although domestic stocks appear to have put in a rock solid performance over the past 12 months, one must weigh the outcome against asset classes around the world. Many may assume that the gains are unique to America when, in fact, other markets may have had largely better performance. Investors should bear in mind this opportunity cost to ensure they do not remain exclusively in the U.S. at the cost of perhaps missing investments found in China, India, Canada, Australia, and other attractive markets.
http://www.europac.net/#
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
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Think about the problem here

If the dow goes to 15,000, but it costs you $20 for a can of soda, have you really made any money???????

Wake up people, you Country and currency are being destroyed

I N F L A T I O N K I L L S


Joe Weisenthal|Oct. 14, 2009, 1:40 PM



http://www.businessinsider.com/that-...dollar-2009-10


You have been warned


OIL: $85

still say Dow 5000, gold 5000

but could be Dow 15,000, gold 15,000

depends how stupid we are in destroying our money

Hey Tank, this prediction does not mean it will happen next month:doh1
 

tank

EOG Dedicated
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Hey Tank, this prediction does not mean it will happen next month:doh1
And all those guys who predicted a can of Coke would cost over .80 cents back in the 1970's are looking awfully smart today right Bruce??:LMAO
 
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Haven't actually reviewed this here Thread in a while

Is it still the "Barry/Barney" Dow, or is it time to give it some other cute gloss?
 

brucefan

EOG Dedicated
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11 K tomorrow!!!

Thank you Mister President
:3dapplaudir::hick::3dapplaudir:


I get it Pete, dont worry

Not only do I get it, all currupt politicians get it also

Your response is all too common, and its exactly why what I say may happen, will

The easy way out is not to let anything fail, and pump more phoney money into the system by creating inflation

No one sees it right away, its like termites eating away at everyones standard of living, mostly the poor people that the wonderful Democratic party stands with :LMAO


Yes the market can get pushed up, just like housing did, but we have pulled this rubberband as far as it can stretch

Catering to sheep like you is easy, just feed them more bullshit through printing money and never tell anyone the truth

The truth will cause to much short term pain, which is why no one will do it.

Political suicide

Of course now that we have a marxist radical in charge, he is the perfect man to seal the deal on our economy and freedom

Hold on tight Pete, your in for the ride of your life
 
Re: The Barry-Barney Dow is heading for 5000

I am disappointed that my trifecta didn't hit. Indeed I did get a "marxist," but "teleprompter" and "birth certificate" failed to appear. . .
 
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