Bob Baffert

Valuist

EOG Dedicated
Chad Brown, Todd Pletcher, and Steve Asmussen win all kinds of races. Baffert really specializes in the Triple Crown races. They are the races Joe Public knows about, but real racing fans know the sport goes 52 weeks a year; not five.
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Doubt the casual viewer cares much about horse or player drinking magic milkshakes. Those of us degenerates that sprinkle cash on these reindeer games take notice
 

boston massacre

EOG Dedicated
Baffert's Either a Cheater, an Idiot, or Neither.

He Knows All The Rules.

Whoever Administers The Drugs into The Horse, Baffert Needs To Be There, to make sure Protocol is Followed.

How Hard is That ?

Other Possibility.

People Drawing Sample From Horse, Tamper with the Specimen.

Enemies of his in The Sport Conspire. To Take Him Down.

It's One of The Three.

Cheater, Idiot, Conspiracy.
 

Heim

EOG Master
Baffert is looking silly. It's a allowable medication, however the horse had double the amount. To
continue saying the horse has never been treated with the drug......well :sneaky:
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
HE SHOULD JUST SAY THEY MADE A CALCUALATION BASED ON PAST DOSAGES, AND HORSE DID NOT METABOLIZE, THEY MESSED UP, TAKE THE DQ AND HELP THE SPORT MOVE FORWARD. THIS SOMEBODY STOLE THE SAMLE, DNA SAMPLE, GRASSY KNOLL PERSON IN HORSE RACING MESSING UP IS DIFFICULT LIFE IS A JOKE, WE NEVER GAVE A DRUG IS A JOKE. TAKE THE 1 YEAR BAN AND GET OVER IT.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
I predict second sample inconclusive. Baffert walks.

The industry already on life support. More drug controversy especially in KD turns horse racing into the now dead cycle and track and field sports.


Bob Baffert was found not guilty in cases involving Gamine and Charlatan earlier this year.

Gamine and Charlatan won races at Oaklawn Park last May, but the horses were found to have excess levels of lidocaine in their systems.

Initially, the Arkansas Racing Commission disqualified Gamine and Charlatan and redistributed purse money.

Upon further review, the wins were reinstated after Baffert and his attorneys claimed the horses were contaminated by assistant trainer Jimmy Barnes and his use of a Salonpas patch.

Hmmm...
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
The 1968 Kentucky Derby and the 2021 Kentucky Derby will be forever linked.

Dancer's Image won the Kentucky Derby in 1968, but was disqualified after traces of phenylbutazone were discovered in the mandatory post-race urinalysis.

The disqualification was announced three days after the running of the Kentucky Derby with second-place finisher Forward Pass declared the winner and Dancer's Image placed last.
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
He was found guilty and admitted to improper drugs and levels, for Gamine on that 3rd place finish in the Oaks placed last and fined, last fall lest you forget how bad this cheater is....
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Baffert's two Preakness horses, Medina Spirit and Concert Tour, are traveling by van from Churchill Downs to Pimlico Race Course today.

The post position draw for the Preakness Stakes is set for Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. ET.
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
The 1968 Kentucky Derby and the 2021 Kentucky Derby will be forever linked.

Dancer's Image won the Kentucky Derby in 1968, but was disqualified after traces of phenylbutazone were discovered in the mandatory post-race urinalysis.

The disqualification was announced three days after the running of the Kentucky Derby with second-place finisher Forward Pass declared the winner and Dancer's Image placed last.
there is a whole story to that, its not that simple of a situation at all.. whent years and years and the winning horse was a target

Kentucky Derby aftermath
Fuller and the horse's handlers filed an appeal of the disqualification, as they believed someone else may have been motivated to give the colt another dose of phenylbutazone. The Kentucky State Racing Commission examined the matter and ordered distribution of the purse with first money to Forward Pass. Fuller took legal action and, in December 1970, a Kentucky Court awarded first-place money to Dancer's Image.[9] That decision was overturned on appeal in April 1972 by the Kentucky Court of Appeals in Kentucky State Racing Comm'n v. Fuller, 481 S.W.2d 298 (Ky. 1972).

Controversy and speculation still surround the incident, and in 2008 The New York Times called it "the most controversial Kentucky Derby ever".[10] Forty years after the disqualification, owner Peter Fuller still believed he was a victim of a set-up, due to his being a wealthy civil rights sympathizer from Boston who offended the Kentucky racing aristocracy by donating Dancer's Image's $62,000 prize for a previous victory to Coretta Scott King two days after her husband's murder. Fuller said he had anticipated that someone might interfere with his colt and asked Churchill Downs officials to provide extra security before the race, but they denied the request. As of 2008, the Churchill Downs media guide for the Derby still included the official chart showing Dancer's Image as the winner.[11]

Legalized in 1974 by the Kentucky Racing Commission,[12] phenylbutazone was so commonly used by 1986 that thirteen of the sixteen entrants in that year's Kentucky Derby were running on the medication.[13]

this is a graet book also
https://www.arcadiapublishing.com/9...he-Forgotten-Story-of-the-1968-Kentucky-Derby
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
Baffert's two Preakness horses, Medina Spirit and Concert Tour, are traveling by van from Churchill Downs to Pimlico Race Course today.

The post position draw for the Preakness Stakes is set for Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. ET.

rumor is there is traces of ethanol in the gasoline being used...stay tuned...
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
He was found guilty and admitted to improper drugs and levels, for Gamine on that 3rd place finish in the Oaks placed last and fined, last fall lest you forget how bad this cheater is....

Not defending Baffert.

Just noting that Charlatan's win in the 2020 Arkansas Derby was reinstated.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Pimlico and the Maryland Racing Commission are in a tricky spot.

Do you stop Baffert from entering Medina Spirit?

What about Concert Tour?

I sense Pimlico will look the other way and allow Baffert to enter both horses.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Pimlico is the same racetrack that quickly stuffed Barbaro back in the starting gate of the 2006 Preakness Stakes after the 1/2 favorite lunged forward and crashed through Gate 6, likely injuring himself in the process.

Barbaro broke down 100 yards into the race and then broke his leg in 20 places over the next 100 yards.

I'm betting the gate incident and the fatal injury were related.
 

Neveragain

EOG Veteran
Pimlico is the same racetrack that quickly stuffed Barbaro back in the starting gate of the 2006 Preakness Stakes after the 1/2 favorite lunged forward and crashed through Gate 6, likely injuring himself in the process.
Barbaro broke down 100 yards into the race and then broke his leg in 20 places over the next 100 yards.
I'm betting the gate incident and the fatal injury were related.

In yesterday’s sixth at Belmont a horse ironically named “Leap to Glory” broke through the gate before the start and ran an eighth before
being pulled up and reloaded back into the gate. He finished dead last in the race after being “eased” by the the jock.
Most likely injured when he broke through the starting gate.
He probably should have been scratched. Doubt he was even vetted after the gate mishap.
 

Valuist

EOG Dedicated
Pimlico and the Maryland Racing Commission are in a tricky spot.

Do you stop Baffert from entering Medina Spirit?

What about Concert Tour?

I sense Pimlico will look the other way and allow Baffert to enter both horses.

Be careful of the higher priced of an uncoupled entry. Baffert himself won the 1998 Derby with Real Quiet, while he saddled the favorite, Indian Charlie, who ran 3rd.
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
i would be pretty shocked if they let Medina spirit run in the Preakness. expect an announcement soon
 

boston massacre

EOG Dedicated
Athletes Juice Themselves.

Horses Cannot.

Who Juices The Horses ?

The Owner, The Trainer, The Veterinarian, The Veterinarian Assistant, The Walker ?

This Stuff Doesn't Require a Law Degree To Get To The Bottom of it.

If Baffert Didn't Juice Him, Why Does He Get Suspended ?
 

Heim

EOG Master
Lol Baffert saying a assistant trainer taking a piss on the hay after consuming NyQuil is to blame

Baffert on tilt.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Churchill Downs stewards are a big part of the Kentucky Derby story for the second time in three years.

Not good for the sport.

The stewards are reaching out to the owner of Medina Spirit this week.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Thirty horses have registered positive drug tests on Baffert's watch.

Baffert saddled his first horse, a quarterhorse, in 1970.

Baffert switched from the quarterhorse game to the thoroughbred sport in the early 1990's.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Thirty horses have registered positive drug tests on Baffert's watch.

Baffert saddled his first horse, a quarterhorse, in 1970.

Baffert switched from the quarterhorse game to the thoroughbred sport in the early 1990's.

Wayne Lukas and Baffert dominated the quarter horse circuit back then...
 

Rockfish

EOG Senior Member
Athletes Juice Themselves.

Horses Cannot.

Who Juices The Horses ?

The Owner, The Trainer, The Veterinarian, The Veterinarian Assistant, The Walker ?

This Stuff Doesn't Require a Law Degree To Get To The Bottom of it.

If Baffert Didn't Juice Him, Why Does He Get Suspended ?

There is a rule in racing called Trainers responsibility. The trainer is responsible for any outcome of a drug test on a horse he races. The trainer manages the horse. Everything falls on him.
 

Rockfish

EOG Senior Member
That is why i always thought people overrated Koufax. Come on now he couldn't even get his fastball past a horse. Embarrassing!
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Baffert's filly, Beautiful Gift, will be competing in the Black Eyed Susan this Friday at Pimlico Race Course.
 
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