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Results News results for the search term: BETFIRSTCLASS 3/16/2009 10:37 PM
BetDOS enters SBR rating guide at D-
BetDos is serviced by "Max," who formerly hosted and serviced scam sportsbooks AtlantisBets and DunHillCasino, and owned and operated BetBones and http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/premiumbettor/Premiumbettor. Max now uses his resources to service new sportsbooks--one being betfirstclass (SBR rating D). betfirstclass ownership was unaware of BetDos but the sportsbooks share the same IP address and database server. A username from one of the sportsbooks will also work on the other book's website. BetDos has not yet answered SBR's inquiries. As with all new turnkey sportsbooks, BetDos should be avoided.
<HR>8/29/2008 01:30 AM
betfirstclass - SBR inititates rating coverage at D
<HR>8/29/2008 01:23 AM
betfirstclass (SBR rating D) turnkey host provider identified as BetBones (SBR rating F) operator. The BetBones group scammed players under different brands at the end of 2007. BetBones ran a handicapper scam just before closing, stiffing hopeful victims as well as its employees. betfirstclass.com owner states that he was unaware of the history of no-pay books on the platform. Previous scams also included F rated sportsbooks BetWGN, SunsetSports, Atlantisbet and DunHillCasino.
<HR>8/24/2008 11:27 PM
betfirstclass Warning
The unrated sportsbook is one of 11 betting websites on its platform. They share the same IP address. Nine of those sites are registered under a proxy service. The other two, NetBet777.com and BetDragon.net have the same whois registration as one of the biggest bookmaker thieves in 2008, Atlantisbets (SBR rating F). The new sportsbook, which has started an advertising campaign with at least one forum website, has copied the about us page and terms of service from SBG Global (SBR rating D-). SBG customer service states they are unrelated to BFC. BFC uses an unknown brand of software, also used by BetCascade (SBR rating F). SBR will ask FirstClass management to comment before initiating rating coverage.
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#5
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

My own opinion dealing with them is they simply don't have the horses to run a book. They try to use the immediate payout premise as the kingpin of their operation. They always say, will just call us, etc., this last mess was just another case of them not having the necessary people to run a tight ship. I really don't think they would steal from the player and I don't think they mean to cause such shit, but they can't run an online book with a few kids, Aunt Bea and a daddy. Its all to evident that the smart people here exposed them.
 
#6
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

cheapseats


Did you read this?

8/24/2008 11:27 PM
betfirstclass Warning
The unrated sportsbook is one of 11 betting websites on its platform. They share the same IP address. Nine of those sites are registered under a proxy service. The other two, NetBet777.com and BetDragon.net have the same whois registration as one of the biggest bookmaker thieves in 2008, Atlantisbets (SBR rating F). The new sportsbook, which has started an advertising campaign with at least one forum website, has copied the about us page and terms of service from SBG Global (SBR rating D-). SBG customer service states they are unrelated to BFC. BFC uses an unknown brand of software, also used by BetCascade (SBR rating F). SBR will ask FirstClass management to comment before initiating rating coverage
 
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Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

I would give them a c-...every book as the right to start off at a c, and go up or down from there. A few dings, but also a couple plusses so i put them at a C-
 
#9
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

been paid twice by them. Only complaint is that every single bet I place the line goes AGAINST me atleast 4-5 cents in juice.
 
#10
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

This is my thing with BFC. I do believe that Michael will always do right by the player. This past thing was a disaster but they did the right thing in the end. However, it seems like there is always something whether it be trouble getting your correct bonus, or an incorrect line, etc. Always something that is annoying to always deal with. And of course the juice is really bad on ML.
 
#11
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

been paid twice by them. Only complaint is that every single bet I place the line goes AGAINST me atleast 4-5 cents in juice.

That is going to cost you alot of money longterm. How can you bet lines that you are paying 5% more in juice.
 
#14
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

That is going to cost you alot of money longterm. How can you bet lines that you are paying 5% more in juice.

Thats why I took my money out. Didnt like seeing the line go from -120 after hitting refresh and whe I go to place the bet...the line goes to -124 happened 75% of the time
 
#15
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

are they moving the line when your bet is entered. does it ever move in your favor or just mostly against you.
 
#16
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

What kind of rollover on the $1000 bonus. I wonder if they made it back in the over priced juice.
 
#17
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

Thats why I took my money out. Didnt like seeing the line go from -120 after hitting refresh and whe I go to place the bet...the line goes to -124 happened 75% of the time
Ya I was wondering about that. It happened all most every time I made a bet.
It would be the same for half hour then as soon as i pulled the triggfer the juice would change. and not once was it in my favor.
 
#19
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

are they moving the line when your bet is entered. does it ever move in your favor or just mostly against you.
Example-

I click refresh on the MLB lines..

I see -120 so click it...go to enter the risk amount $ go to submit the play then I get a message that the line has changed and 95% of the time its agaisnt me.

takes a second to refresh the lines but when you place the bet it takes a good 10-15 secs for it to go through and thats when I get the message stating the line has changed.

I got paid real fast..so I cant really say anything negative about them in terms of withdrawls
 
#20
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

Yes they are scamming you with their program. These crappy books do this all the time because their volume is so small they can't make money.
 
#21
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

they gave me 20% bonus on my $1500 deposit did a withdrawl close to 5k I'll try them out again once gold-pay and xoom change their limits
 

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#22
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

they are in the D+ range. them being here and having an audience with them on the forum is what keeps them from being an F...
 
#23
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

A small book trying to get better....mistakes will happen along the way...

There are worse books out there that will steal your money, but yet some of you guys still play with those shit books anyway...
 
#24
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

A small book trying to get better....mistakes will happen along the way...

There are worse books out there that will steal your money, but yet some of you guys still play with those shit books anyway...
BFC has an arrogant tightwad owner that doesnt know half as much as he thinks he does.

If he only understood bookmaking 101, he would have know that for $150 in -EV he should just eat it and move on.

Was it worth the headaches Mikey?
 
#26
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

If that bad line issue happened at another book, and it will as it does happen, Would most books have reversed their decision and paid us like Mike did? I think not. Even if we trash talked the book for the rest of the year, most wouldn't budge.

Mistakes happen, nobody's perfect and more importantly, Mike paid everyone, that says a lot. We would be SOL if it happened at a lot of other books, even the A rated ones.

We haven't heard of one player being no-paid or slow-paid. I understand that prompt payouts is not the only thing you should look for in a book, but it should definitely be one of the priorities.

:cheers
 
#27
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Ya I was wondering about that. It happened all most every time I made a bet.
It would be the same for half hour then as soon as i pulled the triggfer the juice would change. and not once was it in my favor.

RUCA


I WON"T post this WITHOUT your PERMISSION

However, if you give me Permission I will SHow where you BET HOUSTON ASTROS -119 & Seconds Later You Bet them -114

can I post Sir????
 
#28
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

they have made fast payouts :thumbsup


but i was gone for 2 days and read a few threads this morning that made me go:blink:

they have no clue.

wow is all i can say
 
#29
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

RUCA


I WON"T post this WITHOUT your PERMISSION

However, if you give me Permission I will SHow where you BET HOUSTON ASTROS -119 & Seconds Later You Bet them -114

can I post Sir????

whats wrong with betting them at -119 then betting them at -114:+clueless is that against the rules?
 
#30
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

I have been playing there for a couple of months with no complaints.

THX--WILLY


RUCA

can I please post where You fired away @ -119

and then It Moved to -114

I suck at Math but wouldn't this Be in YOUR FAVOR SIR

Yet you stated this NEVER Happened

Then when you FIRED on ML ORL -235 did it NOT drop to -230


AGain, WOn't POST without your Permission, Just Tired Of FALSE--ALLEGATIONS . . . . .


AND

to the other Poster did I NOT personally contact GOLD-PAY Late SUNDAY Night so that they could Process @ W/d @ 11 pm Sunday Night

VD, does anyone else PAY PEOPLE @ 11 pm Sun--Night????
 
#31
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

So I guess 90% of the time the line goes against him. How can a lines move that much on bases in a few seconds if what Ruca says is correct.
 
#32
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BD

u don't LISTEN the Man said IT NEVER Moved in HIS favor


RUCA, can I post where you FIRED AWAY -119 & line Moved to -114 and you Bet it again, Then we went to -108

I can Point out 100++++ example, Please allow me Permission to Post that you False allegations are Just that , FALSE . . . . . .


and the Other Poster, were YOU not paid @ 11:22 p.m. on a SUNDAY NIGHT Sir


VD, any other Books cashing People OUT @ 11:22 p.m. on Sunday evening
 
#34
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

and why are you asking for his permission:+clueless seems to me you have already posted what he did

" RUCA, can I post where you FIRED AWAY -119 & line Moved to -114 and you Bet it again, Then we went to -108"

:blink:
 
#35
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

Man when Cannon has a beef with someone he is relentless...

BFC couple things you should consider besides all the normal stuff.

1.Dont lump 46 guys in to all being shot takers
2. Dont throw out tiny free plays as a way to try to get people to shut up
3. Dont insult guys who play smaller limits.
4. Dont act before you have 24 hours to look over everything


Just some friendly advice on how to to turn a crowd who is questioning something into a stampede
 
#36
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

BFC has an arrogant tightwad owner that doesnt know half as much as he thinks he does.

If he only understood bookmaking 101, he would have know that for $150 in -EV he should just eat it and move on.

Was it worth the headaches Mikey?

EAT

TIGHT???


I Give MOre to Charity per year than you can Imagine, Judge will be Posting a Charity event Soon that a LUCKY B-F-C- client will have the Opportunity to attend where General admission Ticket is $1500. Yes General Admission. Much More on that Later . . . . Please don't inquire

Let's get to the Subject at Hand


RUCA

SIR, can I post your wager on HOUSTON -119 & seconds Later -114 and seconds Later It drops to -108

After, You clearly stated it NEVER goes your way

do you think we Have some SPY viewing your acct & making sure you get * * * * * on the Lines ? ? ? ? and if so, How did we HONOR your $1200 wager on DEN ML @ -265 IE RISKING 0 to WIN $419

Judge, Take Over

The few that Posted Nice comments, Truly appreciated and the Ones that are Playing here are ALWAYS APPRECIATED . . . . .

be nice if someone would admit to the 11:22 p.m. cash-out which we did everything Feasible to Process @ 11:22 p.m on a SUNDAY evening
 
#37
Re: How do you rate BetFirstClass?

BFC has no history of "no pays" or "slow pays" that I know of. Until they show the line history of the Den 1H, I think they bullshit.

That being said, they pay and they pay fast. Good book.
 
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