JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

I think the shrink is right.

Based on the situation, ( Party that he needs to get $8400 from a bous from a lousy book) the player should have been very careful about crossing t's and dotting i's and not giving a hint of impropiety. Not a good move to not call first and I doubt the player had no idea and is clean as snow about trying to get another $500 bonus.

I also think that after reading their lengthy bonus and account rules posted, NO ONE should play there. NO ONE. Its in their rules plain as day all the reasons they have where they and they alone can decide to void your winnings and close your account. Basically, they can do so at will, by their rules.
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

this verdict is sickening. oddsmaker is a known scam book, if it wasnt for this they would have made up an excuse for something else.

i have them on tape saying he wasnt getting paid because he was disrespectful. they have no security at their book, just offering up his username they give his full name and balance down to the penny out to me.

when the clerk yelled repeatedly that HE WAS RUDE, AND DISRESPECTFUL. THAT IS WHY WE WILL NOT PAY HIM.

thats how you know this is a D- rated book, rightfully downgraded to F.

this case was rock solid...PAY THE PLAYER.

i know for a fact shrink and mofo do not sleep well about this one..you can say the opposite but I know you do not. :+whipping

oddsmaker :hangt

Hello J0hnnyv and welcome to eog.com. If there is anything that I can do for you while you are here, please let me know. All my love,

mofome
(joe)
 

BCTTWR

EOG Dedicated
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

Mofome, serious question: How many scams, stiff jobs, stealing all the money out of player accounts does Oddsmaker.com have to pull before you side with the player?

Does your reputation mean so little to you?
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

Im standing beside the Shrink and Mofome. They are 2 stand up guys.

I was rooting for Jimmymac to get paid, but The Shrink is a pioneer in this industry and has forgetten more about this industry than most will ever know. 12io4j2w90
 

BCEAGLE1996

EOG Senior Member
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

A real pathetic ruling. Player only played in his account and is confiscated after the fact. This may tell us how the poor economy is making this book so desparate to resort to stealing just 8k and risking their reputation. Sad, sad state of affairs. I would never send a dollar to this book and I'll make sure anyone I know does not. I also think the owner of this site appears to have no credibility or is just plain dumb for that ruling.

Maybe its a publicity stunt where the owner comes in and saves all - I just trying to figure out why he would do that but thats my two cents. Now back to the real world...
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

I did not. Hopefully you are not trying to catch me in a lie myself, that will prove to be a difficult catch.

you know what they say about people who make statements like this?


what difference does it make what was said on tape?

his intentions?

everyone's intent is to take as much money from the sportsbook as they will let us. within the rules for most of us.

the rules?

I don't see anything stating that passing on an unsolicited email is grounds for balance confiscation. If those were the actual rules then no sane person would play there as that is a license to steal.
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

Mofome, serious question: How many scams, stiff jobs, stealing all the money out of player accounts does Oddsmaker.com have to pull before you side with the player?

Does your reputation mean so little to you?
Not the first time oddsmaker has been caught with their hand in the cookie jar,
If it looks like a duck walks like a duck, quacks like a duck its a duck.

Player got screwed hopefully they do the right thing and pay him
 

Flamingo kid

Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

Im standing beside the Shrink and Mofome. They are 2 stand up guys.

I was rooting for Jimmymac to get paid, but The Shrink is a pioneer in this industry and has forgetten more about this industry than most will ever know. 12io4j2w90
With the operative word being forgotten. 12io4j2w90
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

I heard you can make money by selling rocks (of coke, fool)

..at least that's what I said to my first born son, who I dropped him off in the HOOD, FULL OF AMERICANS!
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

you know what they say about people who make statements like this?


what difference does it make what was said on tape?

his intentions?

everyone's intent is to take as much money from the sportsbook as they will let us. within the rules for most of us.

the rules?

I don't see anything stating that passing on an unsolicited email is grounds for balance confiscation. If those were the actual rules then no sane person would play there as that is a license to steal.
ATX, im on the phone but feel the need to address one thing. We are not done investigating this at all. By no means are we done.
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

Mofome, serious question: How many scams, stiff jobs, stealing all the money out of player accounts does Oddsmaker.com have to pull before you side with the player?

Does your reputation mean so little to you?
My reputation, as far as with players, is without flaw. You have no idea how much time and effort Ken and I are putting in to this.
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

I'll submit that dropping your son off in the hood with him looking "to sell some rocks", a handgun, and a "to hell with my life"-attitude is actually good parenting.
 
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joeybagadonuts

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Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

I would suggest doing rather soon. I hate seeing you and Mo looking like this. He followed the rules of the below email to the T. He did nothing wrong, he emailed to get his bonus, rolled the bonus over 5x, and waited 30 days for to ask for a withdraw. Remember, he was never a player at this book and how would they expect him to know all their other bonus rules which you ruled against him on?

One last question, can ANYONE show me where in writing these other bonus rules are located and why the book did not mention them in the email?:doh1

Since you’re obviously reluctant to try us out, and we’re convinced you’ll be happy with us once you do, simply open an account at www.oddsmaker.com (no credit card required) and email us your username and we’ll add $500.00 to your account so you can try our site risk free!

If after that you feel comfortable enough to make a deposit with us, we will then give you a 100% Real Money Match Bonus on your first deposit up to $1000.00.
Take us up on the offer………...you’ve got nothing to lose!
Here again are some of our VIP benefits:
•Exclusive VIP Number and Personal VIP Host
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•Superior Tickets to Top Sporting Events
•Withdrawal Priority for Faster Payouts
•Special Birthday & Holiday Bonuses
•Premium Restaurant Certificates
•Unlimited FREE Withdrawals
•Generous Cash Comps

*Bonus has a 5 times rollover requirement, can’t be played in the Poker Room, and cannot be withdrawn for 30 days.
*THIS OFFER IS NOT VALID FOR ANYONE WHO ALREADY HAS AN ACTIVE ACCOUNT WITH ODDSMAKER.COM

Sincerely,
[/email]
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

I would suggest doing rather soon. I hate seeing you and Mo looking like this. He followed the rules of the below email to the T. He did nothing wrong, he emailed to get his bonus, rolled the bonus over 5x, and waited 30 days for to ask for a withdraw. Remember, he was never a player at this book and how would they expect him to know all their other bonus rules which you ruled against him on?

One last question, can ANYONE show me where in writing these other bonus rules are located and why the book did not mention them in the email?
You don't get an email to a book and think that all of their house rules are in the email. That is ridiculous. Please, also, don't feel badly for anyone. We're doing just fine and busting our asses to see what we can get done. If people had any idea...
 
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Why just not state in the email that this offer is not transferable? <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
 
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joeybagadonuts

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Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

You don't get an email to a book and think that all of their house rules are in the email. That is ridiculous. Please, also, don't feel badly for anyone. We're doing just fine and busting our asses to see what we can get done. If people had any idea...
No, you don't usually get all the rules. There is usually small print at the bottom that leads you to the URL on their site you could read all the rules. This one lays out a few stipulations, and given they seem to give these VIP players special treatment, I believe a reasonable person could believe the rules in the email was what he was expected to follow, not some other rules that I still have seen in writing anywhere, can you post them please?

Thanks Mo
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

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Originally Posted by trytrytry

Shrink is there any chance you would change your position on this...I mean people do change their minds often and that is ok...


first the wind blows in from the north, but soon it becomes apparent that the wind is blowing a lot stronger from the south... :LMAO
 

BCTTWR

EOG Dedicated
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

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Shrink is there any chance you would change your position on this...I mean people do change their minds often and that is ok...

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yes...if Oddsmaker.com stops paying me. Then I will immediately side with the player and expose Oddsmaker.com as a crooked sportsbook.
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

ATX, im on the phone but feel the need to address one thing. We are not done investigating this at all. By no means are we done.
:cheers:cheers:cheers

ok some words of dialog and continued investigating and analysis..
this is excellent mofome...take your time, be open to new analysis and don't be afraid to hold or reverse if the analysis takes you to a new location...
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

:cheers:cheers:cheers

ok some words of dialog and continued investigating and analysis..
this is excellent mofome...take your time, be open to new analysis and don't be afraid to hold or reverse if the analysis takes you to a new location...

Leverage is key, my friend. Ken and I have been on the phone the entire day.

:thumbsup
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

Hello J0hnnyv and welcome to eog.com. If there is anything that I can do for you while you are here, please let me know. All my love,

mofome
(joe)
thx mofo, if that was sincere. i come from across the street with an open mind. i will be watching how this unfolds very closely. :pop:

i wonder if Johnny V is John Velasquez the top thoroughbred jockey?
no i am not. just a fellow degenerate from ess bee are.

:+whipping

madcapper: are you the tennis capper? where did u dissapear to pal 12io4j2w90

jjgold and I are monitoring this situation very closely and await everyone to come to their senses and come to a happy medium with the player. oij213490
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

thx mofo, if that was sincere. i come from across the street with an open mind. i will be watching how this unfolds very closely. :pop:



no i am not. just a fellow degenerate from ess bee are.

:+whipping

madcapper: are you the tennis capper? where did u dissapear to pal 12io4j2w90

jjgold and I are monitoring this situation very closely and await everyone to come to their senses and come to a happy medium with the player. oij213490

yes sir I know who you are.

:suit:

91023i2ndw;l
 

janus

EOG Dedicated
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

whether oddsmaker is right or wrong, one thing is abundantly clear: they've lost way more than $8.5k in future business as a result, which makes this "stand" a terrible decision on their part.
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

:+waving-5 i will have a look around this forum now mofo. please feel free to let me know who to look out for. i like to power post and do not want to step on toes.

:party
 
Re: JIMMYMAC VS. ODDSMAKER DISPUTE: THE VERDICT

No, it really has been a mess.

These things tend to go much better when handled behind the scenes. Once it hits the forums things usually go poorly for the player.

Why players get involved with bonues in the first place is beyond me... The BEST bonus is low juice.
 
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