American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

JeffEaglz

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American Idol Season 8- Top 10 - March 24, 2009

Every year as the flowers start to bloom and the changing of the seasons is upon us, Americans are stirred into a frenzy with that greatest of scripted drama. No, we are not talking about American Idol although arguments could be made. Sharp minds know that the eve of Wrestlemania is nearly upon us. In tribute to those bad acting, reading from a script, overly dramatic actors (not to be confused with Durr, Duh, Drunk, and Dick aka Randy, Kara, Paula, and Simon) we bring you the Battle Royale edition of the top ten of Idolmania.

Sadly there is no Lillian Garcia doing the announcing. The lame intros make us long for even Howard Finkelman. We don?t get the ?Fink?, but a fink in the form of Ryan Seacrest. Cue the time-killing banter and unnecessary montage as the contestants make their way to the ring, er stage.

Much like the Royal Rumble it is never good to draw the number one slot on Idol. Idol?s version of the WWE?s Festus, Matt Giraud, climbs through the ropes. Festus Giraud is ready to get it on, Marvin Gaye-style. The outfit is more Matt Stryker than Idol and Festus-Idol reverts back to the TGIMcFunster lame performance that he looked like he might be getting away from. It was more Chavo Guerrerro than Eddy Guerrero but the judges have more agendas than Stephanie McMahon at a prenuptial symposium thus the subtle pimpage begins.

Up next is the Heartbreak Kid, Kris Allen. Revealing he was married early on may have broke some girls hearts around the country not to mention cost him some votes as well. HBKA is basically a more likeable, less douchey version of Jason Castro. While he may not have been the ?Showstopper? with that, Heartbreak Kris may have just earned himself at least a title shot. He?s gone from curtain jerker to main eventer in a matter of weeks.

Remember when Greg Brady donned his alter ego Johnny Bravo to be a rock star? That?s where I know Scott McIntyre from. He?s our Idol version of the Big Red Machine, Kane. He unmasks his gayness in the intro when he says he is waiting for that special person. You mean special girl, right? No, the Big Gay Blind Machine means person. Blind gay people must be a truly niche demographic. As far his performance, the living breathing Saturday Night Live sketch sucks yet again. Tick, tock, tick, tock your 15 minutes are almost up Big Gay Blind Machine.

I haven?t seen someone this tatted up since Umaga made his debut. Megan Joy, the Idol not the porn star, sports more colors than a gay pride parade. The Idol Bulldozer is running people over with her jazzy quirkiness. Like a Bill Murray movie, ?For Once in my Life? is completely lost in translation by the unique Idol. An utter train wreck by Megan that brought us no joy. For all we know that could have been Umaga singing as it may have been the worst performance of the season. With Big Gay Blind Machine in this still, that is saying something.

Lumbering down the entrance ramp is The Great Khali, Anoop the Junkyard Dog. It?s the year of the Indian and Khali Desai is going back to his crooning ballad roots. The last time an Indian was this soulful was when Priya Rai did a shoot with Mandingo (really obscure porn reference folks). It?s pleasant enough, slightly dragged, and lacked any real excitement. Sort of like a Great Khali match. Basically it was a solid mid-card bout but lacked any semblance of main event status.

Next up is Idol?s version of a jobber. A jobber is the guy that always lays down for the stars. In this case roughneck Michael toes the line between Hillbilly Jim and the Honkytonk Man. Hillbilly Sarver was sick this week with the Megan bird-flu so he will to overcome that and the fact he?s not that good of a singer as well. This is basically Idol?s version of a midget match, something to do while everyone is getting popcorn or Cena T-shirts. Sadly for Hillbilly Sarver, Uncle Elmer never comes on stage for the save and he has to tap out to the submission maneuver of mediocrity.

Welllll?it?s the Big Ass, er Big Show, Lil Rounds. Not so little got the Idol makeover treatment this week, next step grammar lessons. She?s singing ?Heatwave? by Moth and the Vandelles (her words, not mine-DVR it). Big Show Lil is pandering to the African-American voters in a big way, any more and she?d be singing ?Swing Low, Sweet Chariot?. The Lil Show stole Paris Bennett?s wig and gives another fourth place worthy performance. The hideous not so Lil ass shot from the back was enough to make me wish for Floyd Mayweather to come out and deliver a haymaker. The Lil Show?s appeal gets lil?er and lil?er by the week.

Wrestling has its divas and Idol has its Diva. Adam Glambert is alternating between tough guy and ?Adorable? Adrian Adonis. Diva Adam is shedding the Gold Dust look from last week and busting out of the closet with his straight act. It may fool the teenyboppers for a while until the video comes out or they get a hi-def TV to see his hideous pock-marked face. It?s a painfully falshitto performance that has cats all over the nation scurrying to the nearest Chinese restaurant. Despite the projectile vomit emanating from the judges, all the makeup and clothes in the world won?t wash away the gayness from Sir Dicksalot.

Here come the bells, the arena goes dark, Gregorian monk chants ensue, and Dead Wife Danny emerges. He?s no American Bad Ass, maybe American fat ass. The Undertaker is going to need to summon all of Sophia?s spirits after this debacle. Do you think Idol knew putting Danny after Adam would essentially put a tombstone to his chances? It is one of the worst, cheesiest karaoke renditions in the history of history. If this was a casket match, Sir Dicksalot just buried Dead Wife Danny alive.
Aside: Why haven?t the producers figured out yet how to properly space the show so that they don?t waste precious Paula gibberish for the first hour then have to say two words to the last few contestants. Very amateurish, oh yeah this is Idol. Forget where I was at for a minute.

Allison Iraheta is going to close the show tonight. She?s the lovechild of ditzy Candace Michelle and Carlito. Marlboro pack a day Allison foreshadows forgetting the words. While she is by far the best female of the night, Allison-ito?s husky voice gets a little bit mush-mouthy in parts. It should be easily enough to get her back in the mix. Between Kara?s phoniness and Paula?s drunkenness, the judge?s once again fail to make any salient points.

Much like the days when Chyna ruled the Intercontinental division in the WWF, Diva Glambert has managed to blur the gender lines and stand tall in the middle of the ring. Be wary though because the road to Idolmania is paved with bad intentions, not to mention lots of boy on boy kissing pictures and possibly videos, and a slew of contenders are ready to take down his crown, perhaps tiara, should he stumble.
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Great stuff, GD. Wrestling motif was awesome..... Hillbilly Jim..
 
ballwonder

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Re: American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

ballwonder said:
Dont forget to vote in the American Idol Contest Thread tonight.


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Going to give ample time for anymore to log into the thread and vote. Will do this for the first few weeks as some may forget. Also I think some people may be confused as far as where to vote. Always vote in the thread above and also your vote will not appear as it is on post review. I will remove post review on the thread at about 11:00 am eastern today so everyone can view.
 
JeffEaglz

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Re: American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

ballwonder said:
Going to give ample time for anymore to log into the thread and vote. Will do this for the first few weeks as some may forget. Also I think some people may be confused as far as where to vote. Always vote in the thread above and also your vote will not appear as it is on post review. I will remove post review on the thread at about 11:00 am eastern today so everyone can view.
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Thanks for the extension. :)
 
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jeff - i completely disagree about allison. yes, she's good. but no personality. also, she is not the greatest singer in the competition...maybe 4th best...
 
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ballwonder said:
No problem I think the biggest thing people where confused about is where to put their plays. Remember every week the plays will go in this thread (same one we started the season with), although they will not be seen when posted due to the forum being on post review.


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Certainly they have had plenty of time by now. Close the entries for this week and open it up so we can all see that everyone took the same person
 
GreenDoberman

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Updated Doberman odds followed by updated Pinnacle odds:

Odd as of Thursday, 3/26/09 to win:

Adam Lambert +175
Danny Gokey +225
Matt Giraud +600
Allison Iraheta +800
Lil Rounds +1100
Kris Allen +1400
Anoop Desai +2000
Megan Joy Corkrey +4000
Micahel Sarver +15000
Scott McIntyre +25000
 
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GreenDoberman

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Pinnacle:

<TABLE onmouseover="changeto(event, '#E6E6E6')" style="WIDTH: 100%" onmouseout="changeback(event, '#E6E6E6')" border=0><TBODY><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD>05:00 PM</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 53%">401 Adam Lambert</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 22%">+158</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>402 Danny Gokey</TD><TD>+243</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>403 Lil Rounds</TD><TD>+1224</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>404 Matt Giraud</TD><TD>+698</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>405 Allison Iraheta</TD><TD>+930</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>407 Scott McIntyre</TD><TD>+10000</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>408 Anoop Desai</TD><TD>+2022</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>409 Kris Allen</TD><TD>+2249</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>410 Megan Joy Corkrey</TD><TD>+5000</TD></TR><TR class=AlternatingData1><TD> </TD><TD>413 Michael Sarver</TD><TD>+20000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
GreenDoberman

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I had not looked at other odds before I posted mine. Looks like they are pretty much in line which means the books and myself tend to be in agreement right now. That is fine since I am already established position-wise on everyone left.
 
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JeffEaglz said:
Wow, is this finally a palatable theme? Motown Week should give the contestants lots to choose from, so song choice better not be an issue. Of course it will be for some, and that's just part of the fun. It's unfortunate that only one can be eliminated this week. The show still has a few "filler artists" as they round it up to a Top 10 so it will be a few more weeks until they get down to the better singers, but until then we get to see if America gets past their biases and ditches the correct people. So how was it? Here we go:



  1. Allison Iraheta (10) ? In case you don't know Allison is a killer singer, she crushes a soulful "Papa Was A Rolling Stone".Easily the best performance of the night as she cements herself as a contender to win this whole thing and the most dominant female singer and possibly the best singer overall here.
  2. Matt Gisaud (1) ? Matt gets the leadoff spot but does it well, singing a soulful rendition of "Let's Get It On". He starts at the piano but then discovers that he's neither blind nor immobile and stands up from it and moves around the stage. Somehow walking is construed as taking a risk for some and he gets bonus points for mobility. Nice. Anyway, Matt sings a pretty good version but has a little bit of a pitch issue here and there. Fortunately for him the backup singers jump in and cover those issues later in the song and he gets good feedback from the judges, who seem now to want him to not be cannon fodder. Safe start for Matt.
  3. Adam Lambert (8) ? Adam channels his best Elvis with his "Take A Good Look At My Pock-Marked Face". High def does him no favors but this is a "singing competition", right? Well, let's get back to that. Apparently Smokey Robinson didn't sing this song high enough for falsetto king here. The judges rush to fawn all over it and keep one of their favorites safe.
  4. Anoop Desai (5) ? "Oooh, Baby Baby" sounds more lullaby than love song here, but he didn't miss on the song's notes and does it reasonable justice. Nothing outstanding but nothing close to a trainwreck either, so he should be fine. Gets "artist"-like comments from the four rubber stamps and his return is blessed for next week.
  5. Danny Gokey (9) ? "Get Ready" cuz here Danny comes. Following Adam he picks an up-tempo song, which works well to contrast him against Adam's performance. But seriously, how many different frames does this guy have? He plays up the crowd as much as he can and even hand gives with the background singers. Motown for this church singer is an easy top half overall performance.
  6. Kris Allen (3) ? Kris stops and thanks you, baby. Thank you for this guitar and this army surplus shirt made by third grade home ec class. When I see that outfit and this guy, I think "Soulful Motown", don't you? Good performance, but was "How Sweet It Is" sweet enough to overcome the second spot in this lineup? Time will tell, but it wasn't that strong of a performance and he may dip into the Bottom 3 unless the girls forget about Mrs. Allen once again.
  7. Lil Brown (7) ? "Heat Wave" gives Lil a chance to crush one right in her wheelhouse, but she doesn't quite get there. Good, but not as great as she should have been considering that this should have been her week to crush. However, this was a better performance than last week's Country Week mess, so she does have that going for her and she still has enough time to build on and get herself into the Top 5. Now if her flapper wardrobe and low-flow Kramer shower hair can improve she might go even further.
  8. Megan Joy Corkery (4) ? Some songs are just right, and some are just a mess. Yet still more are , but to say that this version of "For Once In My Life" was a trainwreck doesn't give trainwrecks proper justice. This was more like what would happen if a train derailed, flew off of a cliff and hit a passenger plane in midair, causing both to plummet into a volcano that erupted and took out three nuclear plants and caused a 7.3 earthquake all inside of two minutes' time. That might capture the same amount of people injured from hearing this song's wretchedness. Megan's cute blonde status only takes her so much (does anyone else see the Jay Leno chin yet???) and she still has the tone-deaf-but-can-text-for-any-blonde voting bloc on her side. Call me crazy but I don't think that this is a big enough group to save her from the Bottom 3. Only a bigger mess can keep her around for another week.
  9. Michael Sarver (6) ? Michael Golic Dale Earnhardt Sarver Jr. steps up and begs for his AI life with "Ain't Too Proud To Beg". Really? No irony here, and he sings it good enough to survive for one more week. Add in that he has that blue collar voting bloc secured from the fly-over states and he should survive and may even escape the Bottom 3 if one more contestant blows it after him.
  10. Scott MacIntyre (4) ? Scott gets buried again in the middle of the show and does "Can't Hurry Love". Another cross-gender performance by him and it does him no favors. "How much more can I take" is right ? he has to be done, right? RIGHT???? This guy should be the VTFW candidate because he's well out of his league by now.

Other notes on this night:


  • Paula doesn't disappoint yet again. Apparently a Barbie ballet princess doll is missing a dress somewhere this evening. What else is "under her skirt" besides crayons? Inquiring Simons want to know.....
  • Kara - "One of the best performances of the night" is not six words.
  • "Hello my name is Simon, and I like to make drawings"...
Bottom 3: Sarver, Megan and Scott.

Who's leaving: Scott.
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Nice write-up, Jeff. I agree with your bottom three, but think it's Michael who's heading home. 12io4j2w90
 
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ballwonder

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Re: American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

And if you missed voting this week it does not mean you lose points. Simply just wait until next week and make your selection in the thread posted by myself a few posts above. Everyone is still in it.
 
JeffEaglz

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IDENTITY said:
jeff - i completely disagree about allison. yes, she's good. but no personality. also, she is not the greatest singer in the competition...maybe 4th best...
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She's got the most upside of any of the remaining contestants.

Adam has the best pure vocal instrument, but Allison has much, much more room to grow and improve.

As for personality - she's 16. Jordan Sparks was a stiff (and still is, IMHO). That can come with a little practice and time.
 
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Michael going home tonight even though Megan deserves so..

Looking forward to seeing what Megan wears next week, hopefully the shortest skirt possible that is what she will need to do if she wants to stick around.. She is standing out as the worst singer by far...
 
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Well who here really think that Matt Giraud is really in the bottom 3??



Of course Sarver is in the bottom 3! I took Sarver as a double shot this week!


I didnt want to see him leave since he lives about 5 minutes from my house! He actually no longer live where they said he did earlier in the show. They moved about 30 minutes away from that dump. He still kind of lives in a dump though
 
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PO69 said:
Nice job
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Thanks PO and GD....I've been following the Idol threads since the beginning of the season, very good stuff. I don't really bet much anymore but when I did I pwned the books on Idol. Have pretty much been able to pick the winner once they hit top 12. Here are one more addict's thoughts on the remaining 10 (final predicted finish):

1. Adam "Glam"bert - I think America is ready for a gay Idol. The guy is just clearly a whole level above every one else on the show. He seems to be a decent kid as well and I think assuming he doesn't go OOT the talent will win out.
2. Matt Giraud - They haven't really had a male R&B guy finish well and with the Timberlake-iness factor I think he'll finish strong.
3. Danny Gokey - This guy bugs the hell out of me but he does have an excellent voice. He really needs to down the cheesiness and the religious stuff and just stick with singing.
4. Allison Iraheta -- Best female contestant since Carrie. Can't believe she's only 16 with that voice.
5. Anoop Desai -- He's my favorite because I'm a rap/hip-hop/R&B guy (and I've seen his best work with the UNC Clef Hangers, You Tube them if you haven't) but I see his limitations. I do think we'll see him get better and better but he just doesn't have the fan base.
6. Kris Allen -- Nice guy, good voice, teenage-girl favorite. He and Matt have the same things going for them but I think Matt pulls away as we go forward.
7. Lil Rounds -- Only about the 6th or 7th-best singer of her type in the show's history (see: J.Hud/Mandisa/Fantasia/Trenyce) and she just doesn't seem to be able to pick good songs on a weekly basis.
8. Megan Joy Witherspoon -- So, so hot but has Elaine Benes syndrome. Too spazzy and only because she's female does she even last this long.
9. Scott "Otis Elevator" McIntryre -- Get him off my TV please. Yeah, ok, he's blind, I get it. Unwatchable.
10. Michael Sarver -- Yeah, ok, you're an R&B singer. Back to the hard hat, big boy.

Oh, and Mo -- I"m in DC as well (NoVa), would love to be part of an EOG poker fest or whatever at some point (if the wife and 3 kids let me out of the house).

Look forward to following the season and I'll add my 2 cents here and there.

The Sensei

(and yeah, I'm the world's biggest Karate Kid fan, name all my fantasy teams Cobra Kai and everything)
 
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Re: American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

No chance he was bottom 3, DI clearly showed them as Megan, Scott, and Sarver
 
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I used to pwn the books on Survivor bets. But then again, I had a source who released the results to me for the next 2 seasons after season 1. But the books new the winner as well. Or at least they ALWAYS knew the final 4 because of their opening odds on the show.

Back when I was a tout, I gave my clients the winner one season of survivor with 7 weeks to go and even told them who was getting eliminated each week
 
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MATT IN THE BOTTOM 2 my ass!!!!!



Well actually they dont actually say bottom 2, they just said that Scott was safe. Of course Matt didnt finish in the bottom 2 really
 
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Re: American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

PO69 said:
I used to pwn the books on Survivor bets. But then again, I had a source who released the results to me for the next 2 seasons after season 1. But the books new the winner as well. Or at least they ALWAYS knew the final 4 because of their opening odds on the show.

Back when I was a tout, I gave my clients the winner one season of survivor with 7 weeks to go and even told them who was getting eliminated each week
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LOL, nice. Yeah I'm a true reality addict, watch pretty much everything (Survivor, Big Brother, Bachelor, Apprentices, all the Flavor of Rock of Charm School Loves, Making the Band, you name it). I have no life obviously but I'll give my thoughts on any bets I can find for those when I can.
 
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Re: American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

like they were really thinking hard about it....you know they're saving the "save" for Adam, Danny, Allison, or Matt
 
biggamer3

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I love the fake comments by Paula and Kara when Simon said that Michael was going home. Such utter bullshit, they couldnt even keep a straight face when they said "He was really good tonight"
 
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PO69

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Re: American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

ballwonder, we need to create a rule in case the judges do save Matt or Adam later in the competition. A rule for the contest.



It was really funny when they "WERE THINKING" about whether to save him or not. They would kill him faster than they would have saved him
 
ballwonder

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If that person gets voted off and saved does someone else get voted off to take their place?
 
ballwonder

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Alright I will add the new rule to the thread tonight. I think it is the easiest way. If you pick the person to go home and they get saved by the judge then no points are awarded and the following week each participant will make two selections as to who gets voted off. Thanks guys.
 
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ballwonder said:
Alright I will add the new rule to the thread tonight. I think it is the easiest way. If you pick the person to go home and they get saved by the judge then no points are awarded and the following week each participant will make two selections as to who gets voted off. Thanks guys.
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Has the deadline been waived for posting your pick to when the result show starts I notice several posted after the midnight west coast time this week. So seems like that be the best way to keep it then us on east and central time dont need to get up at 1am and check dialidol results

And can you use your double shot when 2 go home after the save week
since you wont know who was the lowest of the two they usually dont say.

Fun contest:cheers
 
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Re: American Idol 2009- Season 8 Thread and Discussion

BCTTWR said:
Dial Idol is not 100% accurate. Far from it.
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True, not 100%, but pretty damn close most of the time. I'm 100% in belief that AI isn't always playing by the book. I believe that the person with the fewest votes always goes but they manipulate everything else to make good TV.
 
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TheSensei said:
True, not 100%, but pretty damn close most of the time. I'm 100% in belief that AI isn't always playing by the book. I believe that the person with the fewest votes always goes but they manipulate everything else to make good TV.
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Agree but gives ya a good sample had Michael going home and the blind guy in bottom 3 I dont think anybody would have thought the justin timberlake want to be would have been bottom 3.

Just need to know the week to go against dialidol bottom pick, it will happen 2 or 3 times by end of season
 
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wrigley said:
Has the deadline been waived for posting your pick to when the result show starts I notice several posted after the midnight west coast time this week. So seems like that be the best way to keep it then us on east and central time dont need to get up at 1am and check dialidol results

And can you use your double shot when 2 go home after the save week
since you wont know who was the lowest of the two they usually dont say.

Fun contest:cheers
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Deadline was extended this week as the contest only being 2 weeks fresh and not that much of a lead but many. The fact that the contest was pushed back from the Presidents Speech also was factored in. Next week will be the last week for leniency with more than likely a closing time in the morning and then that will be it. Thanks wrigley thought it was nice of BP to offer it up and let us take advantage of the prize money.
 
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