Antifa is now designated as a terror group

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Terrorism expert Clint Watts weighs in on Antifa and the Idiot designating an Imaginary group as terrorists:

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Clint Watts

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Regarding the President, politics, law enforcement & Antifa - we have a problem. Here’s my story - for last 15 yrs been involved or teaching terrorism/counterterrorism courses to law enforcement around the country, last 3 years, it’s gotten weird.
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For years I’d conduct an exercise for cops evaluate extremist threats in their jurisdiction. First decade AQ/ISIS, by 2015 mix domestic/Int’l then last 3 years - Antifa suddenly became #1 threat for majority class. Some in the classes from major cities never heard of it.







Clint Watts

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was confused, we’d nearly always just seen an ISIS or White supremacist attack in the news. I’d ask,”who is the leader of Antifa?” No answer. “When was last time someone from Antifa killed someone?” Silence. Usually amounted vague recollection of property damage might be Antifa








Clint Watts

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Some that said antifa was the top priority, literally did not know antifa stood for anti-fascist. As a result, I just stopped doing the exercise as it became way too political.








Clint Watts

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If I asked the class to name an Al-Qaeda Isis or white supremacist Attack, they could rapidly name off many of each type, the so-called antifa attack was usually some guys with bats broke windows at a business.








Clint Watts

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I’d also struggle to explain to them that if they believed they had an Anti - fascist problem that might be a strong indicator they also have a “fascist” problem (White supremacists) since one movement would be in response to the other.





Clint Watts

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designating Antifa (if it were an actual thing) terrorist org while ignoring massive spike White supremacist violence would be confirming ideological justifications of Antifa, likely incentivizing more people join antifa movement - downward cycle
 

TheGuesser

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Only a Fascist is against Anti Fascism.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...ullshitand-totally-dangerous?via=twitter_page

Trump’s ‘ANTIFA’ Threat Is Total Bullshit—And Totally Dangerous
FUEL FOR THE FIRE


Amid chatter about outside agitators, a top-down federal attack on left-wing activists could unleash new violence.

Kelly Weill
Reporter
Spencer Ackerman
Senior Nat’l Security Correspondent
Updated May. 31, 2020 9:36PM ET / Published May. 31, 2020 8:49PM ET
It’s not a real organization, “ANTIFA.” And even if it were, there is no such thing as a domestic federal terror designation.


But President Donald Trump’s tweet that the U.S. “will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization” is a very real threat.

Trump’s Sunday offering came as federal and local authorities across the country scrambled to contain increasingly violent protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death at the hands of police in Minneapolis. Trump, who over several years has launched numerous tirades against anti-fascists, blamed the movement—really, a set of organizing tactics—for vandalism at the protests.

Although he has previously threatened legal action against anti-fascists (“ANTIFA,” in his preferred Twitter styling), the tweet was followed by a statement from Attorney General William Barr claiming that “violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

Veteran FBI agents and Homeland Security analysts immediately called the “terrorism” label little more than a cynical maneuver to encourage police violence at antiracist demonstrations that have increasingly been labeled the work of nefarious outsiders.

“Why the strong rhetoric directed at antifa when you haven’t come out and condemned white supremacists as domestic terror groups?” said Daryl Johnson, a former DHS analyst stifled during the Obama administration for warning about far-right extremism.

‘F*ck Shit Up’: White Rioters Enrage Black Organizers

“Anti-fascist” is, among many things, an adjective, not a group. The term can apply to people who personally object to fascism—a large segment of the American populace—as well as people who actively oppose fascism as part of several localized groups across the country.

There is, however, no centralized organization.

“Anti-fascism consists of a variety of different actors and actions,” said Stanislav Vysotsky, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Wisconsin—Whitewater, and author of a forthcoming book on the subject. “Those can be informal: any kind of practice that opposes fascism, and can be taken on by individuals, or they can be formal, which are based in affinity group structures. There’s no formal organization, but there are people who organize as anti-fascists in order to oppose fascist activity.

Sarah Smith, who spoke to The Daily Beast under a pseudonym for fear of reprisal, is a member of Atlanta Antifascists, one of those organized groups. She said the broad usage of the term “anti-fascist” leads to right-wingers conflating everyone from members of organizations like hers, to “anybody who says anything bad about Nazis, for example.”

She added that groups like hers are often accused of being much further-reaching than they actually are. “If a right-winger stubs their toe, it’s ‘oh no, it’s antifa.’ At a certain point, we’ve got a little inured to it,” she said. “But what Trump is saying is going to increase that trend of blaming us for everything people don’t like, even though our mission is very specific. We really do what we say we do: we monitor the far-right locally.”

Just as “ANTIFA” doesn’t exist in the sense that Trump pretends it does, neither does an official “domestic terrorism” label for groups inside the United States. Only the domestic adjuncts of foreign terrorist organizations fall under the rubric of “designated” terrorist organizations, as so labeled by the State Department. Moreover, the chief investigative and prosecutorial tools against such designated organizations are material-support statutes, designed to choke off the flow of money into banned groups. Antifa, which is not an organization, simply does not work that way.

But that doesn’t mean federal and local agencies won’t take action against anti-fascists in an attempt to comply with directives from Washington.

The FBI declined to comment Sunday on what “counterterrorism” measures it would take against anti-fascists. Barr, in a statement after Trump’s tweet, pledged to use the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Forces, which combine state, local and federal law enforcement, to “identify criminal organizers and instigators.”

Mike German, a former FBI special agent who disrupted neo-nazi organizations in the 1990s, suggested Trump was making antifa into a scapegoat even as more nefarious right-wing actors were lurking on the periphery.

“It seems to be an effort to distract from the documented presence of white supremacist militia groups at these protests and their rhetoric in wanting to instigate further violence that would potentially flow into a civil war or a race war,” he told The Daily Beast.

But experts said that, however pre-textually, Trump and Barr’s directives pose real dangers to protesters.

DHS’ Fusion Centers, information hubs to state and local law enforcement, can run database checks and put out notices for local cops to monitor known or suspected criminals who might be protesting. German said he expected high-level pressure on the FBI and JTTFs to result in “aggressive investigation and selective prosecution against people the FBI labels with this umbrella term” of anti-fascist—resources he expected would flow out of investigations of violent white supremacist or militia groups. The DHS did not immediately return a request for comment.



Right-Wing ‘Race War’ Wannabes May Make Protests Go Nuclear
Adding to the potential for harm is that, while more experienced activists may take measures to protect themselves from scrutiny, casual opponents of fascism might not, Smith, the Atlanta anti-fascist noted.


“We don’t have any [membership] dues, we don’t use real names. There would be nothing to make illegal,” Smith noted. “If the government is coming after us, it probably won’t affect us as much as it would normal people who are engaged in normal, anti-fascist things.”

Vysotsky echoed Smith’s concern that an effort to target anti-fascists could affect “any organization or individual that aligns left of fascism. It opens up a huge space to designate virtually any person who opposes any kind of authoritarian movement toward fundamental inequality and violence as being a terrorist.”

That includes many of the thousands protesting racism and police brutality in the wake of Floyd’s death.

Welcome to the club, says the group New York City Antifa.

“For a lot of inexperienced folks who haven’t engaged in activism much before, the realities of the police state and surveillance apparatus can be shocking or incredibly frightening,” NYC Antifa told The Daily Beast, noting past government infiltration and surveillance of anti-war, environmental, and racial justice groups.

“Solidarity is essential, because the next person on these lists could really end up being you,” they added. “When we all support each other and know we don’t have to face down the government alone, it circumvents the fallout of these ‘terrorism’ designations.”

Even though the feds have no mechanism to add an official “domestic terror” title for anti-fascists, people who could be described as antifa have previously faced aggressive prosecution when accused of “conspiring” with each other. In 2017, more than 100 protesters at Trump’s inauguration were charged with an alleged conspiracy to riot, based on characteristics stereotypical of anti-fascists, like wearing black clothing. The charges, for which defendants faced decades in prison, were later dropped after it was revealed that prosecutors partially based their case on deceptively edited video from a right-wing organization.

The terror title is “a convenient label for them to target activists with grand juries, investigations, arrests, and potentially longer prison sentences,” NYC Antifa said.

Trump previously threatened to label anti-fascists as “a major Organization of Terror” in July 2019. “Would make it easier for police to do their job!” he claimed.

While provocative tweets emanate from him all the time, shots at “antifa” are one of Trump’s preferred rhetorical ploys, German noted.

“It’s somewhat of another method of Trump’s rhetoric giving aid and comfort to white supremacists and militias and encouraging violence, whether it’s state violence, police violence, or non-state groups,” he said. “The effort to label the demonstrators as ‘outsiders’ was meant to justify an increasingly aggressive and violent police response. That was indiscriminate. You didn’t see them attack ‘outsiders,’ you saw them attack people in the streets and journalists.”

But, he added, speaking forebodingly of the potential blowback on the street of such a statement on high, “If anti-fascist organizations are your enemies, that is what law enforcement would call a clue.”
 

TheGuesser

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Wanted: Antifa leader Dwight David "Ike" Eisenhower, for destruction of fascist property, capturing fascists, and killing fascists. Ike is considered armed and dangerous and is linked to anti-fascists in England, France, and Russia. Do not try to apprehend alone, call the FBI.

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#53
trump best president in my lifetime by far. we are at war with Chi-coms, gloabilsm, post human world, AI, satan, antichrist, if trump loses, get use toWho and miltary police sticking a needle in your arm, get use to being tracked at all times by your phone, get use to un troops sticking an AR 47 in your face and not letting out of your house. get use to hood rats storming your living room. get use to all churches being close indefintley. get use to end of usa forever.
 

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trump best president in my lifetime by far. we are at war with Chi-coms, gloabilsm, post human world, AI, satan, antichrist, if trump loses, get use toWho and miltary police sticking a needle in your arm, get use to being tracked at all times by your phone, get use to un troops sticking an AR 47 in your face and not letting out of your house. get use to hood rats storming your living room. get use to all churches being close indefintley. get use to end of usa forever.
Yeah
 

TheGuesser

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Twitter suspends fake antifa account tied to white nationalists

Ina Fried
, author of Login




Screenshot: Axios
Twitter said Monday that it has suspended an account named "ANTIFA_US" which it says was tied to the

white nationalist group Identity Evropa.
Over the weekend, the account had called for violence and its posts had widely circulated online.
Why it matters:
It's the latest example of social media being used to exploit and sharpen the very real divisions in American society. It's also the latest example of Twitter more aggressively rooting out false information on its platform.
"This account violated our platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts," a Twitter representative told Axios. "We took action after the account sent a Tweet inciting violence and broke the Twitter Rules."

  • Twitter has previously taken action on other fake accounts linked to the Identity Evropa group, including ones engaged in targeted hate focused on race, religion and sexual orientation.
Context: As protests about the death of George Floyd spread nationwide over the past week, President Trump and his allies began charging, without evidence, that antifa — a label for a variety of far-left anti-fascist groups and activists — were responsible for the unrest.
The big picture: Twitter has become more active in holding to account those promoting violence on its platform.
  • Last week, the service flagged a tweet from President Trump for violating the company's rules against glorifying violence.
  • On Monday, it did the same with a separate tweet from U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz.
  • President Trump, in response to his tweet being labeled, issued an executive order that aims to limit the protections afforded to social media.
Facebook, by contrast, has refused to label or remove any of Trump's posts, sparking a significant amount of dissent internally. That culminated in an employee walkout Monday, during whch a reported several hundred Facebook employees stepped away from their desks and posted messages calling on the company to take action.
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#63
The libs are total idiots. Antifa didn't start in the US and they are more structured in other countries. Clowns didn't even know they existed until 2 days ago.
 
#64
Twitter also suspended the Sergeants Benevolent Association union account for releasing the arrest of de Blasio's daughter.

Pretty weird how everything Twitter does goes against the people who want order. But they're unbiased if you ask one of these dumbfuck libtards
 
#66
Antifa is not a group or organization. It's a concept dating back to the day American troops stormed the beaches of Normandy. There has been zero American's killed by Antifa? Top Nazi, most famous American fascist deems them a terrorist group. This is all about Putin.

The Mike Flynn transcripts very damaging. They prove there was collusion with Russia. Nazi's Barr and Trump will mislead the American people with spin and lies.

Trump is definitely the most famous traitor America has known
 
#68
I'm calling on Speaker Pelosi, Nadler, Schiff, etc to immediately draft up a 2nd Articles of Impeachment. Nazi Trump violated the 1st Amendment rights of Americans to assemble for a peaceful protest. Peaceful protesters were ambushed, beaten, shot with bullets and tear gas. All in the name of a photo op. Send it to the Senate and give them a 2nd chance to do the right thing. Taking away the 1st Amendment right of Americans is something Hitler on steroids does.
 

FairWarning

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I'm calling on Speaker Pelosi, Nadler, Schiff, etc to immediately draft up a 2nd Articles of Impeachment. Nazi Trump violated the 1st Amendment rights of Americans to assemble for a peaceful protest. Peaceful protesters were ambushed, beaten, shot with bullets and tear gas. All in the name of a photo op. Send it to the Senate and give them a 2nd chance to do the right thing. Taking away the 1st Amendment right of Americans is something Hitler on steroids does.
If they don’t, are they complying? Is there blood on Pelosi’s hands? Are the walls closing in?
 
#73
Yup. It was all staged by the police. Every bit of it.

Couldn't be the cops trying to remove the windshield that was already smashed so they could drive it out of there on a vehicle that was clearly tagged by the police. Or clearing out windows on businesses that were already broken. LOL.
 
#74
Yup. It was all staged by the police. Every bit of it.

Couldn't be the cops trying to remove the windshield that was already smashed so they could drive it out of there on a vehicle that was clearly tagged by the police. Or clearing out windows on businesses that were already broken. LOL.
Exactly-no different than any of the videos being posted by everyone to tell whatever narrative they desire. Unless you are there at the riots yourself you have zero idea what’s actually happening
 
#77
There haven't been black leaders (who happen to be overwhelmingly Democratic) pleading with people to stop the destruction in a multitude of cities.

Not happening at all. It's all from the police. "Don't let them fool you" though!

Just ask a libtard on a forum.
 
#78
If they don’t, are they complying? Is there blood on Pelosi’s hands? Are the walls closing in?
Slobadan getting desperate. He used to post enjoy 5 more years of the leader of the American Nazi Party. Now he's resorting to this jibberish.
Slobadan, is your name a tribute to Slobadan Milosevic's extremely inhumane, racist and bigoted ideology?
 
#79
Trump shut down D.C. the looters were scared of getting dominated.. meanwhile over in NYC , CALIFORNIA , etc the looters are still shopping cause they like the price.
 
#80
Trump shut down D.C. the looters were scared of getting dominated.. meanwhile over in NYC , CALIFORNIA , etc the looters are still shopping cause they like the price.
But you don't get it. Trump looted the charity box of 3 million on top of that he looted 200 million from students. Then he became the leader of the American Nazi Party and was elected president. Looting has become normalized by the American Nazi Party. Democrats need to take back their country. Joe Biden with a great speech in Philly this morning.
 
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