PIONEER, AGAIN SOME OF THE POINTS YOU MADE WERE VALID......THE ONES THAT WERE BLACK AND WHITE.........THE ONES WHERE YOU MADE ASSUMPTIONS......SUCH AS SCOTTY WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE DIME BETS AND THE BIDED THEIR TIME UNTIL HE GAVE THE MONEY BACK....SHOW EXACTLY HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW ABOUT BEING A BOOKMAKER.......
I have Full confidence that ScottyJ will do what is right here. He is always more than fair in every situation I have ever been involved in. He has went above and beyond in Most cases
Then why did BetJm restrict him to making just $500 bets in the sportsbook and not in the racebook?I personally reviewed your account and refunded your other circumvented wagers. ($3000 adj. for six other circumvented over limit wagers) I had no idea you had violated your STRICT NICKLE LIMITS. What is it you don?t understand about your limits? You can post or call whomever you chose, just make sure to tell them you are were circumventing your strict nickel limits. As far as a scam, who is the one circumventing the limits, you or us?
THAT SAYS IT ALL..........MAYBE YOU HAVE TROUBLE READING.......A NICKLE LIMIT THAT YOU ARE TOLD IN AN EMAIL, MEANS EXACTLY THAT.....A NICKLE LIMIT WITH NO DUPES.............
DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS HORSES, PING PONG, SPORTS, ACADEMY AWARDS.......$500 LIMIT.......NO DUPES.......READ IT TO YOURSELF SLOWLY AND REPEAT IT OUT LOUD.......$500 LIMITS, NO DUPES.......SAY IT AGAIN....$500 LIMIT NO DUPES........GOT IT YET??????
Then why did BetJm restrict him to making just $500 bets in the sportsbook and not in the racebook?
PROBABLY JUST AN OVERSIGHT........HE WAS TOLD $500 LIMITS........HE BROKE THE RULES THAT WERE GIVEN TO HIM......PERIOD......
WAS HE BETTING WITH BETJAMAICA?? DID HE GET THE EMAIL FROM THE CHIEF AT BETJAMAICA????? WHAT PART DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT $500 LIMITS.......
BEFORE YOU RANT IN ANOTHER DIRECTION....DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A $500 LIMIT IS????? LOOK IN THE DICTIONARY UNDER LIMIT....SEE WHAT IT SAYS........
I would like to see the language used in the email which informed the player of the $500 limit. If it is clear and unambiguous regarding a blanket limit, no matter what the play is, Betjam is correct. However, if the email doesn't clearly inform that the $500 limit is for any and all wagers, Betjam should pay, for the following reasons: 1) because the software automatically limited his sports plays, but not his horse plays, player could reasonably assume his horse wagers were acceptable to Betjam; and, 2) Betjam apparently had no problem with the $1000 house limit wagers until player won a longshot. There is a good argument for both sides here, but we are all merely speculating until we see the email informing of the limitations on bets.
"Nickel Limits, no dupes. Scotty 800 329 2640"
SCOTTY SAID NICKLE LIMITS....HE DIDN'T SAY NICKLE LIMITS ON BASES OR NICKLE LIMITS ON FOOTBALL......HE DIDN'T ITEMIZE ALL THE SPORTS...HE SAID NICKLE LIMITS, PERIOD.........
dirty,
Perhaps then you should read the thread before you make a statement like this..."the explanation that clearly showed he is wrong"?
It is not clear that he is wrong. I have read the thread so let me try to clear things up for you. Oscark was betting sports only, and evidently winning so BetJm lowered his limits to $500. No one has any problem with that! BetJm made it impossible for Oscark to bet more than $500 on any sports bet. Note that well because it is important!
Now several months later, Oscark says he decided to bet horses. The posted limit at BetJm for major tracks is $1000 but you can not bet $1000 all at once, you have to bet $500 twice, which is exactly what Oscark did 6 times, losing 5 and winning one $1000 bet for $2200(total inclusive with the $1000 bet). Note well, BetJm did not stop Oscark from making these 6 $1000 bets or did not object to paying him when he won and taking his money when he lost. Now on the 7th $1000 bet, Oscark got lucky and won over $26,000, which again was credited to his account. It was only at this time that BetJm chose to "take their shot" and decide that Oscark could not bet the posted $1000 limit in their racebook.
Now dirty, you've been around the block a few times....what do you think of "ERBtheGREAT's question, (which is not real clear so let me clarify)?
What if Oscark had not won this $26,000 race but instead continued to rack up losing $1000 horse wagers to the tune of say $20,000 to $40,000? Do you think BetJm would have given Oscark half of his money back when they found out that he was, in their words, "circumventing their limits"?
"Nickel Limits, no dupes. Scotty 800 329 2640"
You can ramble all you want pioneer.... this Statement right here is all that matters
He did not take a $1k shot from what I have read here...he took 2 $500 shots....that is a guy circumventing Limits.... no matter how you slice it.
Why bother to quote my post and then not read it? Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion, dirty.
I did read your posts... after the Message Scotty had on the screen it was Crystal clear. The player should have called and talked to him to see if he could bet $1k on Horses. ScottyJ's message could not have been more clear. That is the only Facts that matter....and Bet Jam did refund Money.
PIONEER.....OF COURSE SCOTTY WOULD HAVE REFUNDED THE MONEY, IF OSCARK NEVER WON A HORSE BET.....AS SOON AS HE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.......SAME AS I WOULD HAVE........
IT IS SOMETHING THAT ALL PEOPLES WITH MORALS WOULD DO.......NEXT QUESTION!!!!
Totally disagree... I have seen many posters (players) who are ripped to shreds by others when they are in the wrong or trying to pull something..It is common knowledge that Most Forum Posters will take the side of the player... it always happens and always will....they take the posters side by default most times no matter what.
Most Posters don't want to look at it objectively from both sides, and even the ones that do are blinded by wanting to side with the poster.
Totally disagree... I have seen many posters (players) who are ripped to shreds by others when they are in the wrong or trying to pull something..
MORE POSTS LIKE THAT PIONEER AND I WILL HAVE TO EDIT MY IRRITATING POSTER PICK...............
The should pay the guy and boot him if they want. They collected on his multiple $1000 losing bets and have to honor his winning bet. The other solution(not as fair, imo) is to go back and make all his $1000(winning or losing bets) be $500 bets and calculate the net result.