"COVID-19 herd immunity strategy could lead to 'overwhelming death and devastation' "

No pro athletes have died. They don't even know they have it, they have been tested. No politicians have died. Only a couple of people under 21 and they have big time underlying conditions.


That's interesting Billy, how come of the hundreds, even thousands of athletes, politicians, other famous people who've been publicaly announced as positive, none of them are "fukked up"?


"7 Celebrities With Scary Long-Term COVID Symptoms
THESE STARS ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO MANAGE TERRIFYING SYMPTOMS, MONTHS AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR COVID.

... Long-term symptoms have been widely reported by COVID survivors, proving that the coronavirus stays with patients long after their CDC-recommended two-week self-isolation period is up.

https://bestlifeonline.com/celebrities-covid-symptoms/

"These Athletes Had the Coronavirus. Will They Ever Be the Same?

Von Miller of the Denver Broncos called the disease a “surreal” experience and said he struggled at first to work out. Other athletes have endured lingering lung and other health issues.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/s...-athletes.html

"21-Year-Old College Baseball Player Dies of Coronavirus"

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"Francisco Garcia (21), Spanish football coach, died on March 17 in Malaga"

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"Coronavirus: Japanese sumo wrestler dies at 28"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52644424

"28-year-old Houston doctor dies after battle with coronavirus

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...says-1.5115177

"From Puyallup High, Former Standout Athlete Loses Out to Covid-19

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"Fact check: Several politicians have died or resigned because of COVID-19
The claim: No politicians have died or resigned due to COVID-19, or had their businesses looted
The nationwide death toll from the COVID-19 pandemic has reached over 200,000 and has affected many public figures, including celebrities, athletes and politicians. But a viral meme circulating on social media claims otherwise.

“Not one politician has died from the virus, lost their job, or had their business looted,” reads a Sept. 7 Facebook meme which features a photo of actor Tommy Lee Jones. “Y’all know you’re being played right?”

...U.S. politicians have died from the coronavirus

According to Ballotpedia, a nonprofit, nonpartisan website tracking deaths and diagnoses for politicians, eight politicians have died from COVID-19.

Among those is former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, who died in late July after a battle with coronavirus

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-have-died-from-covid-19-pandemic/5786533002/

British PM Boris Johnson "Referring to how serious his condition was, Johnson said, "It could have gone either way."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-s-boris-johnson-has-showed-what-happens-when-n1241773
 
Sweden 30 deaths in the last 2 days. Amazing!

Swedish covid deaths were 54 on November 22 as per:

https://www.google.com/search?q=swe...rome..69i57.9773j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

The highest daily death toll there in months.


Sweden's voluntary lockdown strategy has been a collosal failure:

"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Swedish covid deaths were 54 on November 22 as per:

https://www.google.com/search?q=swe...rome..69i57.9773j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

The highest daily death toll there in months.


Sweden's voluntary lockdown strategy has been a collosal failure:

"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"
How does spreading nonsense on a forum in another nation bnefit anything?
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Bigrunner

EOG Master
3,100 dead. Over 200,000 tested positive. Over 100,000 woke up in the hospital fighting covid this morning. All record highs. The worst is yet to come.

"No pro athletes have died".
- Raiders the Retard
 
Those numbers are higher than Sweden due to various reasons, such as bigger populations, "higher risk" populations, populations that are more congested, populations with more multi family & multi-generational living as opposed to people living alone, etc. So, again, you're comparing apples with banana peels & rocket ships. Your comparison is irrelevant. The only valid comparison is Sweden with its 3 Nordic neighbours. And that shows Sweden to be a horrible failure in its earlier pandemic response strategy of voluntary lockdowns. As i have shown you repeatedly, e.g.:

"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"

Recently initiated lockdowns are not the cause of the increase in autumn infections and deaths in Europe. Lockdowns are the solution to the problem. And BTW Sweden has changed their strategy to more of a lockdown strategy.
We've been over this 100 times. Sweden has many big cities and the other countries mentioned have few. You just said that population density plays a part. Sweden did it right.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
Population density is a very big deal for sure, one of the top variables without a doubt

Which makes you wonder why states like South Dakota and North Dakota are struggling with the highest infection and death rates still, and needing to send patients out of state to hospitals and bring in health care professionals from out of state.

Sweden, Norway, Finland have remarkably similar population densities when compared to the world ranking
159th, 171st, 172nd respectively

Denmark is much more population dense (ranking at 64th) with about 6 times more people per square km than Sweden so there's that.

obviously other variables are at play
 
We've been over this 100 times. Sweden has many big cities and the other countries mentioned have few. You just said that population density plays a part. Sweden did it right.

Actually the 3 countries combined - Norway, Sweden & Denmark - have 17 cities over 100K population. Sweden only has 9.

"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"

So Sweden's approach was a colossal failure.

No wonder they been moving toward more restrictions recently. They finally woke up to the truth.
 

billysink

EOG Dedicated
Mr. Nonsense, your continual spewing of nonsense acts as a foil for the proclamation of the truth. That's how.

I believe that the idiot revels in having his throat used as a porta potty for the forum community. It is the only attention he gets in life.

As previously mentioned a half rotted pumpkin has more intelligence, is infinitely more entertaining and understands it exists for the sole purpose of getting carved to fukk and kicked in the grille by the entire neighborhood.
 
Population density is a very big deal for sure, one of the top variables without a doubt

Which makes you wonder why states like South Dakota and North Dakota are struggling with the highest infection and death rates still, and needing to send patients out of state to hospitals and bring in health care professionals from out of state.

Sweden, Norway, Finland have remarkably similar population densities when compared to the world ranking
159th, 171st, 172nd respectively

Denmark is much more population dense (ranking at 64th) with about 6 times more people per square km than Sweden so there's that.

obviously other variables are at play
You can't use population density of a country. Countries with unpopulated areas to go with areas of high density population have more problems than if the population is spread evenly.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Population density is a very big deal for sure, one of the top variables without a doubt

Which makes you wonder why states like South Dakota and North Dakota are struggling with the highest infection and death rates still, and needing to send patients out of state to hospitals and bring in health care professionals from out of state.

Sweden, Norway, Finland have remarkably similar population densities when compared to the world ranking
159th, 171st, 172nd respectively

Denmark is much more population dense (ranking at 64th) with about 6 times more people per square km than Sweden so there's that.

obviously other variables are at play
The dakotas had their rough patch, just like everyone else, and now they're coming out of it, likely for good, they did it right all along.

As far as bringing in health workers from out of state, they did it just like NY and others did in the spring, it's not the worst thing , active cases in ND are down almost 50% from the peak 3 weeks ago. The fact is they're not whining about it, why are others?
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
You can't use population density of a country. Countries with unpopulated areas to go with areas of high density population have more problems than if the population is spread evenly.

lots of interesting rules, stipulations, and exemptions in the population density thinking eh?

Denmark is much higher population density, but they are able to do better because they don't have those pesky large unpopulated areas?.... lol. Copenhagen and Stockholm are fairly similar. Must be that Stockholm also has some large unpopulated areas too!!! lol

Again, I'm wondering why North Dakota and South Dakota don't compare favorably with places like Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming?

is that huge Metropolis cities in those states fucking everything up for them?
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I believe that the idiot revels in having his throat used as a porta potty for the forum community. It is the only attention he gets in life.

As previously mentioned a half rotted pumpkin has more intelligence, is infinitely more entertaining and understands it exists for the sole purpose of getting carved to fukk and kicked in the grille by the entire neighborhood.
You're quite the amateur psychologist now, you can add it to your resume, right next to ex con and mental patient.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
lots of interesting rules, stipulations, and exemptions in the population density thinking eh?

Denmark is much higher population density, but they are able to do better because they don't have those pesky large unpopulated areas?.... lol. Copenhagen and Stockholm are fairly similar. Must be that Stockholm also has some large unpopulated areas too!!! lol

Again, I'm wondering why North Dakota and South Dakota don't compare favorably with places like Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming?

is that huge Metropolis cities in those states fucking everything up for them?
All the mountain and upper midwest states are in the same boat, WY, Utah, Montana, they're very similar to the dakotas, some are a few weeks behind is all it is.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
Holy shit!! in a few weeks will we see those states in the top 15 of deaths per capita?

Deaths per Milly and US ranking

South Dakota- 9th. 1125
North Dakota 8th 1268
Wyoming. 43rd 397
Utah. 46th. 283
Montana. 29th 667


you heard it hear first folks. Wyoming is going to see over 500 deaths in the next few weeks and move into the top 10 of tap outs per mil. Utah will be seeing hundreds of daily deaths soon
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
You part of the election conspiracy crowd?
Under the present rules Biden won since Trump cannot come up with proof. I’m sure Georgia will be a shitshow of epic proportions also. These elections have to be tightened up so the voters have confidence that their vote matters. It’s sad to see this happen.
 
lots of interesting rules, stipulations, and exemptions in the population density thinking eh?

Denmark is much higher population density, but they are able to do better because they don't have those pesky large unpopulated areas?.... lol. Copenhagen and Stockholm are fairly similar. Must be that Stockholm also has some large unpopulated areas too!!! lol

Again, I'm wondering why North Dakota and South Dakota don't compare favorably with places like Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming?

is that huge Metropolis cities in those states fucking everything up for them?
Any city that has a high population density will have a lot of covid. It has nothing to do with a countries population density. It has to do with major cities.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Under the present rules Biden won since Trump cannot come up with proof. I’m sure Georgia will be a shitshow of epic proportions also. These elections have to be tightened up so the voters have confidence that their vote matters. It’s sad to see this happen.
It sounds like nothing will change in GA for the upcoming elections, it'll still be a joke. The sec state put out a bullitan that they're investigating illegal vote requests, etc, but that's not even the tip of the iceberg, 95% of the cheating will go undetected.
 
Under the present rules Biden won since Trump cannot come up with proof. I’m sure Georgia will be a shitshow of epic proportions also. These elections have to be tightened up so the voters have confidence that their vote matters. It’s sad to see this happen.
It’s not a matter of trump coming up with proof. NOBODY has provided any credible proof of election fraud

The fraud was attempted by trump sabotaging the USPS with the specific purpose of delaying mail voting
 
It’s not a matter of trump coming up with proof. NOBODY has provided any credible proof of election fraud

The fraud was attempted by trump sabotaging the USPS with the specific purpose of delaying mail voting
There's a ton of proof. Watch the hearings and all the people testifying.
 
It sounds like nothing will change in GA for the upcoming elections, it'll still be a joke. The sec state put out a bullitan that they're investigating illegal vote requests, etc, but that's not even the tip of the iceberg, 95% of the cheating will go undetected.
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Covid isn't a problem in North Dakota and South Dakota.

North Dakota 480 cases and 12 deaths yesterday.

You could have said the same thing in the first 8 months of this year. It would have been even more true. Things have turned to the worse for them since then, in a huge way. They are only in their first wave now.

Yesterday ND had more infections than in the first 8+ months of the year.

It isn't a problem until it is a problem again in a few days, weeks or months.

Stay tuned.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
You could have said the same thing in the first 8 months of this year. It would have been even more true. Things have turned to the worse for them since then, in a huge way. They are only in their first wave now.

Yesterday ND had more infections than in the first 8+ months of the year.

It isn't a problem until it is a problem again in a few days, weeks or months.

Stay tuned.
They're level of immunity is prob approaching 40% - confirmed positives are about 12%, it's over.
 
They're level of immunity is prob approaching 40% - confirmed positives are about 12%, it's over.

Probably not. Sweden thought they were going to reach herd immunity months ago. They were wrong! Their strategy was a colossal fuck-up failure.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
It’s not a matter of trump coming up with proof. NOBODY has provided any credible proof of election fraud

The fraud was attempted by trump sabotaging the USPS with the specific purpose of delaying mail voting
Until someone comes with any, he will always lose his lawsuits.
About the latter, you’re correct about the USPS and Trump’s role. This will have to be fixed before the next election.
 
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