Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication

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They wont answer .... I saw Hoffa post last nite with "Bush is one of the best Presidents ever" and had to switch over to Vodka // 9-11: right: 1) No Arabs on any passenger or morgue reports 2) # 7 drops into its fooprints without being hit by planes ... Silverstein makes billions ... admits it was "pulled" 3) Marvin Bush on board of company that ran "security" at #1 and #2 up to 9-11 4) Cheney running NORAD on 9-11 as "appointed" by Bush in May of 2001 5) Millions shorted in AA stock days before 9-11 6 ) No damage to the front lawn of the Pentagon 7) Rumsfeld admits a "Missle" hit the Pentagon on the morning of 9-11 /// best off: ask the Righties to respond to this video: Pentagon Strike
 
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This rejection of Ted Olson?s story by American Airlines, the Pentagon, and especially the FBI is a development of utmost importance. Without the alleged calls from Barbara Olson, there is no evidence that Flight 77 returned to Washington. Also, if Ted Olson?s claim was false, then there are only two possibilities: Either he lied or he was duped by someone using voice-morphing technology to pretend to be his wife.<sup>17</sup> In either case, the official story about the calls from Barbara Olson was based on deception. And if that part of the official account of 9/11 was based on deception, should we not suspect that other parts were as well?


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a zionist jew giddy about the boon ...

a zionist jew giddy about the boon ...

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<!-- --------------- Display Advertisement if Exists --------------------- -->The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.

"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."

Netanyahu reportedly made the comments during a conference at Bar-Ilan University on the division of Jerusalem as part of a peace deal with the Palestinians.
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"Four or five years ago, a suspicious event occurred in New York. A building collapsed and they said that 3,000 people had been killed but never published their names," Ahmadinejad told Iranians in the holy city of Qom.

"Under this pretext, they [the U.S.] attacked Afghanistan and Iraq and since then, a million people have been killed only in Iraq."

Speaking Wednesday at a news conference on the Iran threat, Netanyahu compared Ahmadinejad to Adolf Hitler and likened Tehran's nuclear program to the threat the Nazis posed to Europe in the late 1930s.

Netanyahu said Iran differed from the Nazis in one vital respect, explaining that "where that [Nazi] regime embarked on a global conflict before it developed nuclear weapons," he said. "This regime [Iran] is developing nuclear weapons before it embarks on a global conflict."
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click into some of the readers comments ...
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</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=4><TABLE height=200 width=415 bgColor=#ffffff><TBODY><TR><TD class=t13 vAlign=top align=left>As a Jew myself, I must say our biggest flaw is that we often think we are smarter than we really are. We are only of average intelligence , some of us higher, some lower. Netanyahu not only stands at the bottom of our bell curve for I.Q., he also proves that evolution is impossible- no ape would have been stupid enough to give anti-semites a quote as juicy (and completely untrue) as he now gave them.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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Re: Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication

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ANYONE AND I MEAN ANYONE THAT THINKS 9/11 WAS A HOAX IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER MORON..

FOR EVERY STUDY YOU HAVE THAT SAYS THIS THERE IS ANOTHER THAT SAYS THAT..YOU GUYS TAKE THE CAKE
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Ahhhh the voice of reason chimes in. :LMAO POSTING IN CAPS CERTAINLY MAKES YOU FEEL SMARTER ANYWAY DON'T IT:militaire-2942:

Can you explain how passports and DNA can float down out of vaporized planes hot enough to melt steel?:+signs8-a

Them dam nutjob LIBS are at it again!

The Gov't looks about like this to anyone with 10% of a brain:




"Cake? We didn't see no cake?"
 
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agent,

like one of my heroes in life, DRG, says, prove just one of their cornerstones a lie, and their whole story unravels ...

see, it doesnt work the other way around ... prob is, i havent found anything about 9/11 that i believe, i mean almost every step is littered in deceit ...

i listened to DRG talk recently and he said he originally found 125 points in the kean whitewash that were lies, then he said since then he found another 200 ... amazing stuff ...

and, again, why would this man, a highly respected scholar/mentor/prof/author and kind-souled person go to such length and tenacity to dig for the truth? ...

i mean, who in the blasted official story side of the world would you pit against this guy in a truth-off competition??? name one???
 
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i must say i really enjoy this EOG bc there are at least a good chunk of people who have researched 9/11 thoroughly, then of course, a faction that is afraid to :)
 
orwell reviews

orwell reviews



<H3>Reviews on ORWELL ... it shows anyone with even semblance of an open mind what's truly going on to keep real news from the public. These are just 3 of dozens that loved it.</H3><H4>From Variety:

"A marvel of passionate succinctness, Robert Kane Pappas' docu critically examines the Fourth Estate, once the bastion of American democracy. Docu asks, "Could a media system, controlled by a few global corporations with the ability to overwhelm all competing voices, be able to turn lies into truth?" "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" refrains from preaching to the choir but if its biting analysis proves true, film is unlikely to ever be presented to the general public. Indie arthouse and cable venues therefore beckon. Pic meticulously traces the process by which black may be turned into white, with frequent references totalitarian states both fictional and real -- Orwell's "1984" competes with Goebbels' theories on propaganda and blatant examples of Soviet revisionism for pride of place...

Helmer Pappas (director of the fiction features "Now I Know," and "Some Fish Can Fly") forsakes all pretense of presenting both sides, since presumably the other side is promoted daily by radio, television and the press. Pappas offers like-minded journalists, media watchdogs, scholars and legislators who voice their deep concerns about the health of democracy in America... Pic largely relies on talking heads, but the conviction and punch of the interviewees' commentary, leavened with pertinent excerpts from a lively Michael Moore speaking engagement, never becomes tedious. Graphs showing the income of the middle-class lamely flatlining while that of the upper-class climbs off the page are accompanied with shocking government figures of a 9% increase in middle-class income verses a 140% increase at the top..
Ronnie Scheib, Variety, November 2003

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From Ruthlessreviews.com:

Many of the anti-Bush documentaries, as pleasant as they are, rarely move beyond the usual collection of complaints and grievances -- he's a liar, a moron, a conniving asshole, a strutting prick, etc. No one who inhabits the real world disputes these assertions, but at some point the argument becomes little more than flattery for the like-minded. I'm even more impressed by a film that can rip Bush limb from limb while adhering to the principles of well-reasoned debate. In other words, amidst the frenzy of "hang-George W. Bush-from-a-sour-apple-tree" hysteria (it's from Inherit the Wind, in case you were wondering where in the fuck I pulled that from), I'm always more inclined to embrace a film about actual ideas; not mere "theories" that might impact a handful of detached academics, but everyday issues that affect how we live, make choices, and look to the future. In the case of Orwell Rolls in His Grave, the issue is arguably the most important facing us today -- media consolidation and the overall dissemination of information.

.Robert Kane Pappas, the director of Orwell Rolls in His Grave, should be commended for his insightful, tightly focused work, although it is unlikely that he'll get any favorable mentions in the press. As much as I liked Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11, it was far too sarcastic to really advance the debate beyond name-calling. So while Republicans can castigate the Left for its radicalism -- and affinity for the likes of Moore -- they can rest assured that Pappas' work will remain obscure enough never to pose a threat. For if it did get more attention, it would be impossible to refute, as it is sober, measured, and far from an anti-Republican screed. Bush and his gang of crooks are implicated as they must be (especially for the appointment of FCC Chairman Michael Powell, a man who refuses to believe that there is such a thing as a "public interest"), but the issue goes beyond the current occupant of the White House.

From The New Republic:
In his own field Robert Kane Pappas is also daring. He has made a documentary that is almost entirely what documentaries are supposed to avoid: a series of talking heads. His film has few attempts at cinematic cleverness. He has been more clever than that: his heads talk interestingly and pungently - about a pressing and scary subject.

Orwell Rolls in His Grave, using quotations from 1984, attacks the growing power of a few tycoons in the media field. It is based on the hypnotically frightening fact that every means of communication meant to serve us is becoming a means of maneuvering us. Press and radio and, most recently, television have always been principally in the hands of the powerful, but as time goes on, the number of the power decreases. William Randolph Hearst, once considered an emperor, was a vassal compared with Rupert Murdoch.

Former newscast producers, media analysts, investigative reporters, professors of media studies at several universities, a congressman and ((naturally)) Michael Moore speak forcefully on a situation that is simultaneously dangerous and ludicrous. The more effective that the media become, the fewer the people who control them. These facts will not surprise many, but Pappas's film will heighten the viewer's anxiety and frustration. (One has only only to switch on the BBC news after watching a network newscast to get some inkling of the contrast between spoon-fed news and candor - and few would contend that the BBC does everything that needs to be done.

The Catch-22 in the matter is that, unless one has private sources of information, we depend on the people who are spoon feeding us for some hints of the news that is being left out. Pappas's talking heads can't exactly solve the problem, but they help to keep us from forgetting it.

Stanley Kauffmann, August 9, 2004
 
and HS kid understands it better than roscoe et al

and HS kid understands it better than roscoe et al

From The Half Moon Bay Review
and Pescadero Pebble (since 1896):


Orwell would recognize U.S.

Dear editor:

I know that over the summer some seniors at the high school have read Orwell's famous book - "1984". These seniors might be interested in viewing the documentary "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" now playing in San Francisco.

With forthright commentary from respected leaders in the industry, the documentary portrays how our present government has achieved power by controlling the media. (For instance, if a lie is presented enough times, people tend to believe it, even if it is false; such as weapons of mass destruction in Iraq). A handful of corporations now control radio, TV and newspapers across our country. As a result, people are "fed" the official news and other voices are silenced. This is not what a democracy is about. In a democracy reporters investigate and report the unbiased facts, even if it is messy: like the election results from Florida in 2000.

.And when we can no longer find the facts, when voices are silenced, then we have the making of a country our seniors have just read about in "1984." "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" is a shocking reminder of what we have to lose if this continues for four more years.
Evelyn Jess-Fulwiler September, 2004
 
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All I know is that the Bilderbergers are jacking off 24 hrs with King George running the show in this country
 
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roscoe,

the fbi, in a court of law in the moussaoui trial, admitted the calls never happened, it was submitted in court ... is that enough for you ...


i would like to see some evidence of your claim. p.s.which calls are you refering to? all the calls?just barbara olson's calls? please clarify.:+clueless
 
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Roscoe: Remember ... the big fat man with a Beard that arrives down your Chimney on Christmas Eve votes Republican
 
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roscoe,

its a plain fact and not even the neocons deny it ... please do some research so we dont have to spoon feed you everything bc it just shows you are not up to our level of discussion ... it was babs olsons calls ... anti posted it all for you in concise, clear terms ... you cant even find official story mongers debating this one anymore and it makes them wet their pants in retreat bc it proves their version was a total lie, hence 9/11 was a false flag period ...

its ok, once again the mass media wont comment on it, so rewind the tape: what does that prove? did you watch ORWELL video, it explains everything in simple truthful terms--the experts talking on the doc have no axes to grind, its not about 9/11 its about censorship in the press and TV ...

anyhow, not trying to give you a hard time but its amusing that 99% of the time when i get into discussions on chatboards. the researchers/truthers are 100xs more informed than the official story sheep ... but again, thats understandable, thats how sheep keep getting the wool pulled over their eyes, they dont shed their coats.
 
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roscoe,

the fbi, in a court of law in the moussaoui trial, admitted the calls never happened, it was submitted in court ... is that enough for you ...

i would like to see some evidence of your claim. p.s.which calls are you refering to? all the calls?just barbara olson's calls? please clarify.:+clueless
still no answers. when doc mercer could not produce the evidence, he always said do your homework.show me where the fbi admitted in any trial that no cell phone calls were made from any of the hijacked planes on 9-11.will be awaiting your reply.i won't hold my breath.:+signs15-
 
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what proof do you want me to get, my gawd, should i obtain a hard copy of the legal documents and mail them to you ... lemme ask you this, how do you come to believe anything, bc people tell you, or have you gumshoed that there are no four corners of the earth and/or we went to the moon bc nasa faked pics or did we really go?? ... just curious how you come to believe anything ...

google the event, my friend, see how many times it is not denied by your precious heroes ... should i call the DA and have him phone you ... if so, please leave your cell # and ill get right on it ... you wouldnt believe that if i could make it happen anyhow, you would say fake call ... and if i paid to fly the DA to your home youd say i orchestrated that too, that he was a paid impostor ...

so what do you want from me ... choose to bury noggin in sand bc thats all your guys do anyhow ...

have a nice weekend
dimedr
 
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Roscoe: the technology to connect calls from heights of 30,000 feet did not exist until 2004 /// the NSA is "very good" at what they do buddy and can call your home .... pick up your voice off your recorder and piece together an entire conversation //// AGAIN ... THE TECHNOLOGY TO CONNECT CELL CALLS FROM HEIGHTS OF 30,000 FEET DID NOT EXSIST UNTIL 2004
 
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im a lil worried how roscoe avoids being hit by buses and tractors each day ... he keeps asking the same question, ala babs, and he has been given the answer 2xs yet he asks again
 
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keep dancing around the issue.you can produce no evidence of your outlandish claim.
 
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so honestly, roscoe, who were you at MJs b/c you are obsessed with me; if you were salma hayek itd be ok ... but otherwise, please do some reading ... start with the collected workds of DRG :)
 
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mr dime, please just produce some evidence of your claim.no other b.s. needed!
 
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Roscoe: thru 10 rds the Judges scorecard has Dime up 9 rounds to 1 ... looks like you need to land a big shot !!
 
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ok, roscoe, you won, im not flying a FBI agent to your home ...

now lets discuss why Bush chose not to get up when andy card told him the 2nd tower was hit ... did he not want to frighten the children? thats the neocon party line ... altho 15 minutes later he had a press conference at their school and the kids found out anyhow ... thats seems a little illogical to me ...

or was it lie #2 where carol merril is standing: they didnt want to rush him into other unsafe havens bc that lil grammar school was so heavily fortified (i mean they had "duck and cover" desks)... tho, using that pretense it assumes the SS did not have contingent backup harbors to take B43, which any agent will tell you they always brief on each day in case of emergency--did they happen to forget that day kinda like forgetting to respond to 4 hijackings?

i feel you will be able to answer this conundrum bc you had such close ties with the fbi agents pertaining your first hand knowledge on BIN LADEN being the initial and only culprit fingered for the wtcs and the whole shebang within an hour of tower 11 being struck ...

okay, my man, since you demolished me in the moussaoui babs olson cell phone trial, take another shot here

:party
 
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Dime: LOL !!! /// Hey ... Roscoe might be into some "Water Boarding" for all we know !!
 
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Loved how Gomer and Goober Pyle (aka Bush and Cheney) had to testify together in front of the 9-11 commission .... "'Thats right Georgey ... now remember ... when I scratch my ass you tell em that got "Condi" got emailed from Hannity indicating his contact in Afghanistan talked to Bin Laden and Bin Laden mentioned World Trade Center .."
 
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Good one Dime !!! There was one I cant remember where Ernest T Bass was portrayed as Bush learning the Constitution
 
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Al Qaeda is More of a U.S. Propaganda Campaign than a Real Organization
Wednesday, December 24, 2008

Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook wrote:

Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of
the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from
the CIA to defeat the Russians.

Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told the Senate that
the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative".

And see this Los Angeles Times Article, reviewing a BBC documentary entitled
"The Power of Nightmares", which shows that the threat from Al Qaeda has
been vastly overblown (and see this article on the people within the U.S.
who are behind the hype).

Not only has he U.S. government hyped Al Qaeda, but it has issued numerous
fake terror alerts to scare people.

There is a word for intentionally creating fear in order to manipulate
opinion for political ends: terrorism.

Note: I had originally started this essay with the following quote:

"Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook says:

The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida.
And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda
campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity
representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a
unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country
behind this propaganda is the US."

However, I did a little digging, and discovered that the quote was
misattributed to Cook. It was actually made by former French intelligence
and military officer Pierre-Henri Bunel in this speech.

http://tinyurl. com/7pua6z
 
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Dawg:

Gotta love it ... the SHEEPIES are basically CLUELESS on the "realities" of how
the USA govt operates and when Sean Hannity is your "guiding light" ya know
your world is really fucked up
 
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great stuff, RD, where are the roscoes now, pulling plows with their rednecks in the ozarks?
 
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