MR. ROONEY: So anything that you learned or anything -- any information that you would have had about the Russian interference in our election, which I believe the Russians were trying to interfere in our elections in some way, shape, or form. Anything that -- did you have any specific information that you thought rose to the level of criminal activity by any candidate in the Republican Or Democratic primaries?
MS. FARKAS: No, I did not.
MR. GOWDY: Why don't we go back to that sentence that I just asked you about. It says, the Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about their staff dealing with Russians. And your testimony was, we, was the U.S. Government.
MS. FARKAS: Uh-huh.
MR. GOWDY: Well, how would you know what the U.S. government knew at that point? You didn't work for it, did you?
MS. FARKAS: I didn't.
MR. GOWDY: Then how did you know?
MS. FARKAS: I didn't know anything.
MR. GOWDY: Well, then why would you say, we knew?
MS. FARKAS: So if they found out how we knew --
MR. GOWDY: We knew what we knew.
MS. FARKAS: Right. So obviously, I misspoke, because I wasn't we anymore.
MR. GOWDY: Well, you just spoke twice, Dr. Farkas. You said, we knew what we knew.
MS. FARKAS: So what I was saying there was that if there was collusion, if it was revealed that there was collusion --
MR. GOWDY: All right, help me find the word, if, in that sentence, because I can't find it. What I see is, the Trump folks, if they found out how we knew --
MR. ROONEY: Is there anything that you can help us with from when you were at DOD as a Russian expert that led you to believe that there was going to be information that the Russians were colluding with the Trump campaign, or they were interfering IN the elections aside from just propaganda, actual specific evidence to show that the Russian government was involving themselves in their campaign beyond the RT or trying to infiltrate our polling places or whatever, that you will feJt the need that either the Obama administration or other people need to get to sources on the Hill or whatever that's beyond just what you saw on MSNBC?
MS. FARKAS: No.
MR. GOWDY: So when you say, we knew, the reality is you knew nothing?
MS. FARKAS: Correct.
MR. GOWDY: So we can summarize this. Despite the fact that you will repeatedly used the phrase, we knew, you knew nothing?
MS. FARKAS: That's correct.
MR. GOWDY: All right. And despite the fact that you allege the Trump folks were dealing with the Russians, you have no evidence of that?
MS. FARKAS: That's correct.
