Re: Anyone going to use Ras for NCAA football he only does the first 8 weeks and it is $895.
Why are books scared at his plays? There are bigger services (clientwise) like ATS, do the lines move at release?
I wont disagree with the value of his service if the books are buying his service. The fact still remains that he is creating 3-7 point middles on his CBB totals and no one else can claim that. the pros who have the time and the resources to find other outs for middles are making out. Really is the ultimate compliment to RAS that he knows the market that well.
Mostly because he is playing into a bad market. How many other touts release NCAA hoop totals? Or WNBA games period? I would say almost zero. But those guys cater to a different clientele. As in degenerates that want action more than a good game. So he found a niche and ran with it. if he did Hockey totals I am sure he would move them also. When the action is limited and you then have a lot of guys throwing a lot of money at it of course they will move it. Or as I said if books are getting his service and moving them preemptively that would make even more sense. Even if I know the guy is bad, why would I keep aline that has a chance of losing? Its like a car dealership getting tipped that someone is coming in to buy a fleet or smart cars or something. Cars are junk, not worth 2 cents, not sure what the sticker price is, but if that dealer went out and raised the sticker price 1500-2000 and he knew the person was still going to buy 15 why wouldnt he? Good or bad doesnt matter, it is all common sense.
You guys all talk like the books know what the score of the games is going to be and they can just move a number to sucker as many people into betting the 'wrong' side as they like. They dont need to, they can just get a lot of points by just moving the number enough to make it almost worthless, especially to a large number of people. Obviously if they get duped and get hammered the other way they have to take their chances. But more than likely enough followers will bet the advice side (regardless of number) so that faders or anti steam guys money wont kill them if that side comes in. And of course you have guys trying to get middles, which we all know long term isnt going to be profitable. But some guys will bet them blindly with a large enough gap.
As for me being wrong about books moving on air, I doubt it. You just think because more people (saps or self proclaimed 'insiders') didnt agree with it means I was wrong. In my experience the more people disagree with me the more likely I am right or at least onto something that can be used to make money. Also on your list I would say all of them have moved aline without enough money one way or the other to justify it. If they didnt then they are just bad business men. Also those laces arent nearly as great as people think they are. Pinnacle is most definitely a notch or more below what they used to be. CRIS always sucked IMO, and Grande, well no further comments needed with those clowns. So just because they have reputations doesnt mean the reputations are wholeheartedly deserved. Good or bad actually.
People try to make this about rocket sience or some clairvoyant sense that they know more than everyone else, and it takes a great handicapper or stats guy to make a good bookmaker. it doesnt. Just takes a guy with a screen and some software and enough action to reduce his liability. Seriously you think the books in the past that went out of business werent capable? They were, their biggest problem is they started out with almost no cash and the preconceived notion that everyone is dumb. And despite that a lot of them stayed in business quite a long time. Until they finally had enough guys winning and actually wanting a pay out and not enough guys posting up to pay them. Book making is one of the easiest things to do to make money, why do you think so many people do it, despite guys getting arrested and turned in by all the rats out there? All you need is enough cash to withstand a bad day or two when people get lucky. Because eventually they all lose it back, and not too many winners stop cold turkey, and neither do losers.
Internet books had it made, because when people won they didnt always request a withdrawal. So these places stayed in business without nearly enough cash on hand to pay off their balance sheets. I would say in the late 90s and early part of 2000s only a handful of books had enough cash to pay off the people they owed. despite all the rhetoric of 'deep pockets' or 'I have seen their operation' or 'these guys know what theyre doing' bullshit. If I had all the money stolen from players from books the Shrink endorsed I would own an island somewhere. But since i never lost a dime to any of those scam books due to getting no payed, I can afford where I live now which isnt half bad. I think my never losing money or getting stiffed by a book in over 12 years of betting off shore is more than enough testament of my knowledge of the offshore world. Because I doubt many people can say that. At least guys who werent in on the con themselves.
I am not an insider, I am not buddies with guys who own books or run them. It was a business to me. I dont need any friends. I bet, I win, they pay, that is enough for me. I didnt shoot the shit with any of them even when they had me on the phone to verify certain bets. Only ones I ever got semi casual with were Canbet people, mostly because they were pretty hard not to be at least cordial with them. But I put a lot of money through a lot of places ovr the years, and it wasnt like they didnt try to be buddy buddy. i just didnt need it. And wasnt caught up in all the bullshit of the gambling world. because it was and still is mostly fairy tales. Sure guys made money, so did I. But I didnt piss it all back or get greedy. So that makes me alittle different also.
Bottom line is I have a brain and I dont believe anyone anything says, and even if I see something with my own eyes I doubt it unless there is plenty of first hand history to back it up. Because the one constant about this business is everyone lies and everyone is trying to get over. And another not so constant truth (only about 90%) is that the more people try to impress others the more they want or the more theyre trying to convince people they are what they say they are. People that are good dont need to sell themselvs or show off, they just do it. Also no need to go out of their way to impress people because really what the fuck are those guys to them? More than likely a bunch of frigging degenerates anyway, so what does it matter? They will self destruct anyway and if they really suspect you have something theyll more than likely try to get something off you for free or ask for something with no intention of paying it back.
So while people can claim a lot of things, I can as well. I just dont feel the need to constantly do it. I know what I know and it has always been way more than enough. Hell I have been to about 5 or 6 RX and EOG bashes over the years and I doubt anyone could pick me out of a line up. Which is perfect. But it doesnt mean I didnt see plenty to affirm everything I already knew and conveyed here.
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